Neveland will be auctioned off. 19th March 08.

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MJ does not really need to sale the ranch unless it's a personal decision. He can always come up with the money from a range of financial institutions or well-to-do friends. The only time MJ can decide to let it go is if he wants to let it go. But if he wasn't willing to see his stuff auctioned in Las Vegas, the the last thing you will see is him allowing his home to be auctioned.

If he can come up with the money at any time to avoid the embarassment of the bank seizing it and selling it at auction, then why hasn't he?
It's disturbing how many people seem to think he is allowing this to happen, or that it is part of some plan.

If he wanted to sell he would have sold earlier.
This property will be sold from under him whether he likes it or not because he hasn't paid what he owes. Period. There is no excuse except he can't afford to pay. If he could afford it, he would pay.
He tried to prevent the auction of the items from the storage container because he had legal grounds. Here he doesn't have an excuse.
 
There are times when i wish MJ would get loans from foreign banks, since in the US, his fianances are now being used as some form of entertainment, a desire to see him fail.

Luckily, the Clinton/Obama hype overshadows the media trying to focus on MJ till Ramone can come up with a ststement.

She needs to do so the same day before the story dies down and the public is left with the old un-rebutted news.... The problem is that it takes her a day or so, by which time all the media don't bother to update their articles.

MJ does not really need to sale the ranch unless it's a personal decision. He can always come up with the money from a range of financial institutions or well-to-do friends. The only time MJ can decide to let it go is if he wants to let it go. But if he wasn't willing to see his stuff auctioned in Las Vegas, the the last thing you will see is him allowing his home to be auctioned.

It's interesting how this story becomes headline all over, rather than Michael's album sales all over the world, i wish Ramone could throw a hint at that in her statement.[/quote]

RIGHT & RIGHT...BUT it was YOUR POST that JUST GOT ME THINKING, NOT NECESSARILY to the issue of the statement via Ms. Bain.

There's a saying 'that the King doesn't leave his throne to swat flies.' Unless this is true at all, or at least to the degree of his having to file personal bankruptcy, then perhaps he should just leave them twisting in the wind, in view of the international public. Not responding & tossing his head in Superstar :cool:fashion could have the effect of leaving them running around in circles! I'm sure they'd catch fire & burn over his lack of fear of their pointy horns & tails..particularly after all the effort they put into this.

Watch if he does, in this case I think, the longer he takes to respond, the more they will (twist), issue false stories which after a while will start to reveal the same half truths we notice here. Don't think that we are are any smarter in regard to spotting half truths in the media as it relates to MJ. His recent albums sales are proof of this. Don't believe that sales will decline over this.

Ever ignore & refuse to fear the devil.. well, everyone should try it for at least a week! But with it remember to proclaim victory, In the Lord's Name, (Jesus, Amen).
 
:cry: Neverland is a part of Michael Jackson's legacy, he can't lose it.
Thats how I feel. Its truly heartbreaking to think all of the accusations caused this pain. Its not fair. If the trail and the accusations never happened he would be living there still. Its awful, neverland isn't just an amazing place, it was Michaels home.:(
 
There was already a thread for this and mods decided to close it. So Im going to close this one too. I think it's pretty much Michael's decision what he's going to do with Neverland and there's 3 weeks left, so we can only wait and see what's going to happen :)
 
Why are people (including the mods) burying their heads in the sand?
Mike owns money on the property and hasn't paid. FACT
If Mike doesn't pay, then he will lose Neverland. FACT.
If Mike really wanted to get rid of Neverland and start again, he could have sold it himself after the trials. He could have demolished the buildings and sold the land for development. he could have developed the land himself. There were options open to him. The fact that it has come to this is embarassing for him and shows to me that he really wanted to keep the property for himself. No doubt when the sales is finalised there will be people crawling all over it to uncover all kinds of secrets and sell loads of stories to the press. This will be a very rough time for Mike and the fans - expect lots of nasty stories!!
I don't understand why he didn't get out there making money long before now. Sure, he has just released Thriller and it is doing better than most people expected, but it's been years since the trial and he could have released a brand new album by now. He could have performed a few concerts to earn money. He could have done interviews. there were so many ways to raise money that he hasn't taken advantage of. It is very strange to me.
The situation is real, so lets stop trying to bury our heads in the sand.

First off, the 'Mods' are not burying thier heads. They are acting in the capacity that they are supposed to. The Moderators are performing exactly as they are expected to. Michael's financial issues are always a touchy topic. Any discussion related so closely with his personal life becomes a hot button. Things tend to get heated and order is quickly lost. Which is why his financial matters are a stipulation in the MJJC's guidlines ...
MJJC rules & regulations said:
3. Mr. Jackson’s health will not be a topic of
discussion here, nor will invasive personal

discussions of his finances and children be
permitted. All pictures of MJ's children must
receive approval from the MJJC Mods and
Admins.

Second, what Mike could of, should of, ought to have done or what we feel we would have done, is not relevant to anything. None of us have to live his life. We are not subject to the choices that he is forced to make or not make. By all accounts, Michael's 'Neverland' has passed away. When something dies, even if it is only an ideal or a dream that is gone ... it is still a loss. There would be a period of mourning. Along with that usually comes a period of denial. You do not want to believe what has happened, has actually happened. Things are not straight in your head ... you are not thinking clearly and when all is said and done, you realize that you could have acted differently. Or so you think. Truth be told, you acted the way you had to, in order to survive the situation in a sane manner.

None of us have a 'Neverland' to lose, sell or continue to maintain. It is not fair for us to ask 'why?', when we know nothing of the intimacy that is involved in it.

Think of a loss in your life. A family member dies and you are left with all that they had. Everything that they had gained in their lifetime. The home that they furnished with the things that remind everyone of that person. Walking in a room sparks memories of the times you shared with them. Each piece of brick-a-brack tells a story. The lawyers want it all sold at an estate sale. Family members all want, what they want. Everyone is laying a claim to something. However, it is you that must decide. The history of this beloved family member is in your hands. Nothing can go forward without your say so. What is it that you will do ?? ...

Your instinct is to keep it, as it is. Preserve it and the cherished memories that it holds. You want it to stay the way your loved one had it ... it is gonna cost money though. Part of you says, 'just sell it, they are only things. It makes sense to sell it, just do it.' Still, you cannot actually bring yourself to take the action that makes the most sense, in your head. Because your heart is telling you otherwise. A year goes buy, your loved one is still gone, the house is still in your care and everyone is pounding at your door. They all want what they think/feel is due to them but the fact remains, that you are not ready to let go. The truth is, it's a year after the death of your loved one and you have yet to displace one item in their home. All is still as they left it, over a year ago. You have not dealt with the loss at all. Cut to another year later, same situation but now the other family members are just plain pissed off. They are over any loss and simply WANT the $$$. Now you have had two+ years to remove anything that you want to keep but you haven't. You were holding onto the memory as it was, you did not want it to be over. Now the lawyers are in on the action with the family members. Things progress and issues are pressed. You fight back to retain things as you have them but in the end a court sees fit to determine otherwise. It is out of your hands now, the choice to let go has just been made for you. You have to immediately deal with the loss that you have been in denial of for years.

"oh i should have just done this ... why didn't i do that ... now I am losing everything that i was holding dear ... if I had only thought and done this or that ..."

The could of's and the should of's are not and WERE not an option. Your mind set was where it needed to be, in order to deal with the things, the way you were ready to deal with them. And unless you have a time machine, none of it really matters anyway.
 
Awww man !! if i knew this ish was already closed I wouldn't have written all that ish :lol:

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(CNN) -- Pop star Michael Jackson will avoid foreclosure on his Neverland Ranch property with a new loan, a Jackson insider told CNN Wednesday.
Michael Jackson owes millions of dollars on his sprawling property in the Santa Ynez Valley in California.


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Documents show that Neverland Ranch in Los Olivos, California, is scheduled for a public auction on March 19 at Santa Barbara's downtown courthouse.
But the Jackson source said that won't happen.
"Michael Jackson's ranch is not going to be auctioned off at the courthouse," the Jackson insider said. "The financing is all being worked out."
"There are plenty of lenders willing to work with him. The real estate market is very bad right now and Jackson is being affected just like many other Americans," the source said.
The Santa Barbara County Recorder's Web site lists a "notice of trustees sale" by Jackson and his property lenders, Financial Title Company, filed Monday.
In California, title companies typically represent lenders in foreclosure cases.

A notice of trustees sale cannot be posted earlier than 90 days after a notice of default is filed. That notice is not filed unless a loan is in substantial default, sometimes six months or more past due.
A real estate source inside Santa Barbara County said the trustees filing is only the first step in a long process that could drag on for months.
The real estate source said other options are available to Jackson, including selling the ranch directly to another party or making a payment on his $24.5 million Neverland debt that would satisfy the trustee.
The recorder's Web site also reveals there was a release of lien on Jackson on February 4, showing he paid off all or part of delinquent taxes to the state of California.
"It seems unlikely that someone would pay off back taxes, only to let the ranch go up for auction a few weeks later," said the real estate source.
Jackson has not lived at Neverland since June 2005, after a Santa Barbara County jury found him not guilty of child molestation charges
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/02/27/jackson.foreclosure/?iref=hpmostpop
 
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