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Producer for MJ's new album? If you could only select 1 producer who would it be

bobmoo79 said:
Something that just occurred to me is that although I’d personally rather see mike move on and use new producers on his album, using QJ even for just 1 more song would generate such a massive buzz that it is bound to help album sales. Imagine the stories if Mike could get QJ to commit to a song on his new album. Everybody loves the MJ/QJ collaborations from OTW, Thriller and Bad. It’s the Mike that people still think is credible and talented. Just the mention of QJ would set the media on fire with anticipation. As much as anything else, I personally think Mike should go back to the very instrumental sound that was present on his earlier albums and rather than try to reproduce that sound with a new producer, why not just use the legend himself.
[FONT=border=]Why not just send him an almost complete version of a track and ask for his creative input? If he offers advice, give him producing credit on that song. That might be enough. [/FONT]
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Michael Jackson - Quincy Jones.

I personally think MJ was naive and far too full of himself when he left QJ.

I mean they were the Timbaland and Justin Timberlake of today. Everything MJQJ touched turned to gold and the same thing happens when T and JT work together. Hit single after hit single, hit album after hit album.

Michael should have always worked with Quincy.

Let's put things into context - with Quincy, Michael sold (from 1979 to 1990) 160 million album -(Off The Wall - 20M, Thriller - 108M, Bad - 32M).

Take it all the way from Dangerous until Invincible, MJ sold 65 million albums -(Dangerous - 33M, HIStory - 18M, Blood on the Dance Floor - 4M, Invincible - 10M).

On album sales alone you could say they were the perfect team. Now, if you take away the statistics and actually listen to the albums one by one, the MJQJ albums were the best of all.

There are some brilliant songs that Michael has done without QJ, such as 'Stranger in Moscow', 'Earth Song', 'Keep the Faith', etc.

But a realist would have to agree with this motto, "if it aint broke, don't fix it."

The motto is perfect to MJ and QJ.

Michael Jackson's ego led to him fighting a long winded battle to beat Thriller for the rest of his career. Something which won't ever happen. Michael's ego was so inflated that he let Quincy call him to ask about when they are going to record the next album (Dangerous) only to find out that Michael had already started recording and Quincy wasn't going to be involved this time around.

Cowardly - yes.
Naive - yes.
Egotistical - yes.

More successful? No.
 
I think Michael made the right decison by choosing not to work with Quincy on "Dangerous". Michael wanted to incorporate the new jack swing sound that was so popular at the time into his music and Teddy Riley was the right man for the job. As an artist who's been in the business for years, I think it's only natural that Michael wanted to try different things and work with new people. Deciding not work with Quincy was a smart move on his part if you ask me, Michael wanted to update his sound and was trying to grow as an artist. If he was really as arrogant as you claimed and was chasing "Thriller's" sales, he would have continued to work with Quincy because he did afterall have his biggest success with "Thriller" which we all know Quincy produced, but Michael wanted to take a risk and at the end of the day, I think the results speak for themselves.

Artistically speaking, "Dangerous" was exactly the direction Michael needed to go in and I don't think the album would have turned out as good if Quincy produced it. Also, if you want to talk about success, I believe the "Dangerous" album sold more worldwide than "Bad" did, so he was successful without Quincy indeed. I think that was also something Michael wanted to prove to himself and critics, that he could succeed without Quincy and that he did.
 
Cinnamon234 said:
I think Michael made the right decison by choosing not to work with Quincy on "Dangerous". Michael wanted to incorporate the new jack swing sound that was so popular at the time into his music and Teddy Riley was the right man for the job. As an artist who's been in the business for years, I think it's only natural that Michael wanted to try different things and work with new people. Deciding not work with Quincy was a smart move on his part if you ask me, Michael wanted to update his sound and was trying to grow as an artist. If he was really as arrogant as you claimed and was chasing "Thriller's" sales, he would have continued to work with Quincy because he did afterall have his biggest success with "Thriller" which we all know Quincy produced, but Michael wanted to take a risk and at the end of the day, I think the results speak for themselves.

Artistically speaking, "Dangerous" was exactly the direction Michael needed to go in and I don't think the album would have turned out as good if Quincy produced it. Also, if you want to talk about success, I believe the "Dangerous" album sold more worldwide than "Bad" did, so he was successful without Quincy indeed. I think that was also something Michael wanted to prove to himself and critics, that he could succeed without Quincy and that he did.
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Fantastic response.

With regards to Michael's chasing Thriller, I think he proved that with Bad.

I read somewhere it was one of the reasons behind their relationship ending. Bad didn't outdo Thriller when everyone told him it would so decided to leave.

I could be wrong but that is general speculation from what I've read.

Everyone has different opinions but it was a musical dream team and I think general opinion from Europe to Asia, America to Australasia - Michael was best in the 80's.
 
Michael alone.... That's how the best tracks on HIStory came out: MJ by himself.
 
Definatelly - Michael Jackson, producer, composer, writer.. At least for 2/3 of the album. I have confidence and faith in his creativity and level of knowledge.

For a secondary producer eventually somene from musicals, Opera, film music, area.... not at all an hot producer of today, that easy come easy go, flava of the month.... but someone involved in big magistral projects, with experience in conducting and writing stuff for symphonic orchestras.
 
King said:
Michael Jackson - Quincy Jones.

I personally think MJ was naive and far too full of himself when he left QJ.

I mean they were the Timbaland and Justin Timberlake of today. Everything MJQJ touched turned to gold and the same thing happens when T and JT work together. Hit single after hit single, hit album after hit album.

Michael should have always worked with Quincy.

Let's put things into context - with Quincy, Michael sold (from 1979 to 1990) 160 million album -(Off The Wall - 20M, Thriller - 108M, Bad - 32M).

Take it all the way from Dangerous until Invincible, MJ sold 65 million albums -(Dangerous - 33M, HIStory - 18M, Blood on the Dance Floor - 4M, Invincible - 10M).

On album sales alone you could say they were the perfect team. Now, if you take away the statistics and actually listen to the albums one by one, the MJQJ albums were the best of all.

There are some brilliant songs that Michael has done without QJ, such as 'Stranger in Moscow', 'Earth Song', 'Keep the Faith', etc.

But a realist would have to agree with this motto, "if it aint broke, don't fix it."

The motto is perfect to MJ and QJ.

Michael Jackson's ego led to him fighting a long winded battle to beat Thriller for the rest of his career. Something which won't ever happen. Michael's ego was so inflated that he let Quincy call him to ask about when they are going to record the next album (Dangerous) only to find out that Michael had already started recording and Quincy wasn't going to be involved this time around.

Cowardly - yes.
Naive - yes.
Egotistical - yes.

More successful? No.
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None of this is relevant, as the industry was different when the Quincy albums came out. No downloading or internet. People cared about music in general, unlike today, when video games & DVDs are more popular. Also bad press hurt some of the later records. There was none of that in the 70s or 80s other than insignicant stuff like buying bones, which is nothing.
 
Until proven wrong, if Michael wants to create a heavy impact with this new album, Quincy might bring him to flop. OTW, Thriller, Bad all sound fresh when you play it but I think we can all admit that they would probably flop in todays industry. Quincy is a musical genius, no doubt. However, his sound WILL flop. Quincy doesnt even do modern Pop-RnB music now. He does Jazz only, right? I might be wrong, but when was the last Pop hit Quincy had produced?

Quincy CANNOT save Michael. People have to stop believing that. Michael will be labeled a "Has-been". Believe me. If they did one track on the new album, it should only be ONE. No more than that. It should be a track reminiscint of the old days. Mike needs new blood in his music. He should push all the Producers he has been working with to their maximum potential. This can assure him a smash album, hopefully a timeless album.
 
I think a collaboration with Angelo Badalamenti could have been special. I hear a lot of Badalamenti in MJ's string arrangements
 
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