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Prosecutors want another delay in trial of Michael Jackson's doctor

Don't mind a delay as long as we head towards a 'guilty' judgement.
 
^^ But the delay seems a consequence of the time needed to select and see footage asked by the defence from 15J to 24J: ??

WALGREN: (...) The vagueness of the labels and disorganized state could be a lengthy process. I’m just relying on what I have heard here. People have spoken to Mr. Chernoff and received a continued date for 3 weeks based on scheduling issues, we have no objection to that (...)

http://teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_328.htm
 
The delays are frustrating, but if we really want justice done for Michael, we must be thankful that the prosecutors want an ample amount of time to make this right. It's only for Michael's benefit, really. If they need an extra couple weeks, they'll use it wisely and bring forth the justice Michael deserves.

These people know what they are doing: the judge and the attorneys. I'm trusting in them. They must prove that Murray is guilty and I believe that is exactly what they are going to do.
 
Do the transcripts clarify the original ruling on the defence only using the last 2 days of footage
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Do the transcripts clarify the original ruling on the defence only using the last 2 days of footage
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I would also like to know it for sure...

The only thing I remember reading in the summaries is that on the 24th June hearing, defense said they had restricted their original request from three months to the last 10 days and that the judge granted that viewing to both the defence and the prosecution.

But no further clarification regarding the original ruling made on 16th June. I am puzzled as well...:doh:
 
Courtney said:
The delays are frustrating, but if we really want justice done for Michael, we must be thankful that the prosecutors want an ample amount of time to make this right. It's only for Michael's benefit, really. If they need an extra couple weeks, they'll use it wisely and bring forth the justice Michael deserves.

These people know what they are doing: the judge and the attorneys. I'm trusting in them. They must prove that Murray is guilty and I believe that is exactly what they are going to do.
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I agree with you, we don't want any delays, but if it gets him what he deserves and MJ justice then it is necessary.
 
smoothlugar said:
I would also like to know it for sure...

The only thing I remember reading in the summaries is that on the 24th June hearing, defense said they had restricted their original request from three months to the last 10 days and that the judge granted that viewing to both the defence and the prosecution.

But no further clarification regarding the original ruling made on 16th June. I am puzzled as well...:doh:
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yeah it doesnt really make sense.in one of the other summeries even the pros questioned the judge as to why the defence can see all the footage when he originally stated only the last two days can be entered as evidence.the judge didnt respond in the transcript.can a judge stop a sub? Or can he only tell the defence to make it less broad.what dont get is why isnt the judge saying to the defence there is no point u subing any footage from before the 23rd because i will not allow it to be entered ad evidence regardless.
 
elusive moonwalker;3432128 said:
can a judge stop a sub? Or can he only tell the defence to make it less broad.what dont get is why isnt the judge saying to the defence there is no point u subing any footage from before the 23rd because i will not allow it to be entered ad evidence regardless.
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I don't get it either.

June 24th hearing. http://teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_328.htm

COURT: I am not going to superced form over substance. Do you want to issue a subpoena Mr. Walgren? It seems silly and waste of time. I think the court should appoint a master, give certain parameters and special master would review and provide to court. This is a stipulation outside of the SDT, while some may think I have ruled on the motion to quash, I have not!! I have requested parties meet and confer and I think people should be a part of that, I don’t think this implicates Dr. Murray, Any discussions that may occur are not in front of Dr. Murray. It is monumental waste of time for defense to review then defending what is shown, then entitle the people. It’s back and forth, I think it’s safe to say people should issue a subpoena duces tecum so people can sign off on it. I am leaving it up to the people, Sony and R. Murray’s team to modify the stipulations. It’s not complicated you can add verbiage.

WALGREN: If it’s ok with the court we would like to enter into stipulation with Sony, that the people accord the same viewing rights and privileges as outlined, there are some facts in the first that I don’t know if people would be prepared to sign.
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http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_327.htm
June 16th hearing:

I am restricting the Defense as I have Prosecution to the two days before Mr Jackson’s death.
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In this case we are dealing with criminal prosecution, not civil, copyright or trademark case. The District Attorney made a powerful argument that the Court allow them to play for the jury certain segments of the movie because it disputes here among the parties as to the mental and physical condition of the Deceased. I accepted that. If the Defense feels there is material out there that helps them, then the due process and fair trial consideration distinguishes that in this type of a case.
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Ivyyy, pleaaaaaassee...!!! Bring us some light :):pray::pray:
 
smoothlugar said:
Ivyyy, pleaaaaaassee...!!! Bring us some light :):pray::pray:
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:)

Initially judge limited them to last 2 days. However later the defense argued that they needed to go further back - especially to the day that Michael wasn't feeling well and sent home by Ortega. So for the time being judge is allowing the defense as well as the prosecution to view last 15 day period.

There's no decision made yet. What will happen is they would view them and make a request about the parts they want. Sony would respond to this request (either by agreeing or making an argument for rejecting those), similarly the prosecution would also file their opinions. Based on all of these the judge will make a decision. There's no decision made as of now.

Also in the last hearing the judge wanted them to keep him updated about their progress and that he can step in if needed- meaning that he can stop them from viewing if he believes it's fishing.
 
InSession In Session
The trial for Michael Jackson's Dr. could be delayed for the 3rd time! The judge is expected to decide at a hearing next week. @InSession
 
ivy said:
InSession In Session
The trial for Michael Jackson's Dr. could be delayed for the 3rd time! The judge is expected to decide at a hearing next week. @InSession
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wow..another delay huh...why even bother having a trial at this point....they are gonna delay so long that Murray will die of natural causes before he is even tried for Michael's death..:(
 
honestly i blame murray's defense incompetence here. they need to be ready a month before the trial and they are still watching footage at sony and then there would be objections and then decisions etc etc.. they aren't ready so it gets delayed and delayed.
 
xthunderx2 said:
wow..another delay huh...why even bother having a trial at this point....they are gonna delay so long that Murray will die of natural causes before he is even tried for Michael's death..:(
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this is just the hearing on the 20th that was pushed back from this week? Its not new
 
ivy said:
:)

Initially judge limited them to last 2 days. However later the defense argued that they needed to go further back - especially to the day that Michael wasn't feeling well and sent home by Ortega. So for the time being judge is allowing the defense as well as the prosecution to view last 15 day period.

There's no decision made yet. What will happen is they would view them and make a request about the parts they want. Sony would respond to this request (either by agreeing or making an argument for rejecting those), similarly the prosecution would also file their opinions. Based on all of these the judge will make a decision. There's no decision made as of now.

Also in the last hearing the judge wanted them to keep him updated about their progress and that he can step in if needed- meaning that he can stop them from viewing if he believes it's fishing.
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Thank you, Ivy, for replying to our questions.:yes:

But don't you think the judge should not have said initially on 16thJ that of "I'm restricting the defence to the last 2 days as I have done with people", without asking the defence first for their reasons (as he did on a later hearing and granted the viewing of the last 10 days for defence and prosecution)?
 
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