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OOOH that'd be awesome!!!
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Spike Lee announces Off The Wall Documentary - Estate Announcement Page 66
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OOOH that'd be awesome!!!
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I think it's US-only. However, it's airing on TV on Friday night so it should be up on 'alternative' streaming websites within hours. Alternatively, it'll likely be available via torrenting a few hours after airing.
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that's the spirit!!
I have a lot of questions now after finding out that you can write in it. what's the gatefold made of (material)? what's the chalk like? is it actual chalk? I mean, since you can write with it, if the gatefold is cardoard? can you write on cardboard with chalk?
Thats what i wanna know too
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For all you chalk enthusiasts, Amazon is selling 16-packs that have multiple colors for only $6 bucks!
It will compliment the the white piece included in the Off The Wall package really well.
I'm gonna add it to my order of the BluRay/CD right now.
It will compliment the the white piece included in the Off The Wall package really well.
I'm gonna add it to my order of the BluRay/CD right now.
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I love Sunset Driver but it's not on Spotify, so I can't put it on my playlist.
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It is for me in NZ...
Well that's weird. What region are you in?
I believe with Spotify you can add 'local files' to Spotify (see here). Maybe you can import the MP3 for Sunset Driver into Spotify then add that to your playlist? I don't know if it'll work because you're putting a local file in a playlist that has songs on Spotify's servers, but it's worth a try?
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It is for me in NZ...
Well that's weird. What region are you in?
I believe with Spotify you can add 'local files' to Spotify (see here). Maybe you can import the MP3 for Sunset Driver into Spotify then add that to your playlist? I don't know if it'll work because you're putting a local file in a playlist that has songs on Spotify's servers, but it's worth a try?
Thanks. Yeah, I know that in some places the Ultimate Collection tracks are available in some places they are not. Unfortunately here they are not.
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I didn't realize that you can do live streaming on the app/site too with the trial (that is, streaming the actual TV channels live feed).
That's great, so now I don't have to wonder when the stream of the doc itself is available to watch (I assume the latest would be when the TV broadcast happens, if not earlier in the day).
That's great, so now I don't have to wonder when the stream of the doc itself is available to watch (I assume the latest would be when the TV broadcast happens, if not earlier in the day).
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It is for me in NZ...
Well that's weird. What region are you in?
I believe with Spotify you can add 'local files' to Spotify (see here). Maybe you can import the MP3 for Sunset Driver into Spotify then add that to your playlist? I don't know if it'll work because you're putting a local file in a playlist that has songs on Spotify's servers, but it's worth a try?
Actually that is a bit weird because the ultimate collection is not available to me here in sweden. The other day i tried to listen to Someone Put Your Hand Out but I couldn't find it. Lucky I imported it from my computer
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Actually that is a bit weird because the ultimate collection is not available to me here in sweden. The other day i tried to listen to Someone Put Your Hand Out but I couldn't find it. Lucky I imported it from my computer
I found a website where you can search for Spotify songs and find out what region they're available in. [EDIT: Which looks like it's probably wrong after further examination]
Here are the results for Sunset Driver and the rest of The Ultimate Collection, if anyone is curious:
It's interesting. I noticed Bad 25 wasn't available on Spotify but merely assumed it was because it consisted mainly of demos and other little goodies for the more hardened fan, so they'd want you to buy it or something. Nope, turns out Bad 25 is on Spotify... just not in my part of the world! (I searched for Al Capone). It goes without saying I have it on CD so I'm not worrying
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^ That list is not correct. I am in Hungary and I can assure you that Sunset Driver and The Ultimate Collection is not available here. It doesn't even show up when I put its name in the search.
Maybe on Premium, I don't know. But I use the free version.
Maybe on Premium, I don't know. But I use the free version.
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Hm. Yeah neither The Ultimate Collection and Bad25 is available here in Sweden.
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Bad 25 is available in Hungary.
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What interests me the most is that both of those sites use an official "API" given to them by Spotify, which essentially gives them an authorised "direct line" to Spotify and their results. Therefore, theoretically, what they display should be accurate.
*shrugs* I really don't know. Here's a link to The Ultimate Collection on Spotify (copy and paste it without quotes into the search bar) "spotify:album:2cDcNwNCq8Xq8SplfcxUIg" . What happens when you try to go to it?
I don't think it's restricted to those with Premium. I remember a few years ago, Adele delayed 21 being released onto Spotify because she wanted it Premium-only (this was right after it's release). Spotify refused. There has been some rare cases recently where Spotify have made some songs Premium Only, but free users can still search for it, it'll just say "Premium Only" in the song title or something.
*shrugs* I really don't know. Here's a link to The Ultimate Collection on Spotify (copy and paste it without quotes into the search bar) "spotify:album:2cDcNwNCq8Xq8SplfcxUIg" . What happens when you try to go to it?
I don't think it's restricted to those with Premium. I remember a few years ago, Adele delayed 21 being released onto Spotify because she wanted it Premium-only (this was right after it's release). Spotify refused. There has been some rare cases recently where Spotify have made some songs Premium Only, but free users can still search for it, it'll just say "Premium Only" in the song title or something.
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This.
It shows the tracks on TUC that are otherwise available from other albums, but not those which are exclusively on TUC.
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Damn. Sorry, I don't really know what else to do (apart from that import method I mentioned earlier).
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Another great review:
TV Review: Michael Jackson's Journey From Motown to Off the Wall (Sundance)
PLOT: Director Spike Lee charts Michael Jackson’s initial success as a solo artist, with his breakout smash hit album, ‘Off the Wall.’
REVIEW: Who would have thought that director Spike Lee would become the definitive film-chronicler of the life and career of Michael Jackson? Best known for hard-hitting fare, Lee eschews this style to make a documentary that’s pure pop - a fact that’s appropriate given that MJ was indeed “The King of Pop.”
This is actually Lee’s second Michael Jackson documentary, with his BAD25 having played at TIFF a few years ago. Rumor has it this is the second in a planned MJ trilogy, with Jackson’s “Thriller” the next album to get documentary treatment. Lee’s Jackson fandom seems authentic, and as in BAD25, anyone looking for controversy should look elsewhere. This is a celebration of the music - nothing more, nothing less.
It’s interesting that following BAD25 Lee turned his attention to ‘Off the Wall’. While a staggering success, it’s been overshadowed by Jackson’s later efforts, which still rank among the best selling albums of all-time. Maybe it’s the lack of familiarity contemporary audiences have with Jackson’s time in-between the days of The Jackson 5 and ‘Off the Wall’ that encouraged him to take this approach. The result is a fascinating glimpse into the pop machine that was Michael Jackson, with the image presented here being of a man fully confident in his own abilities and the fact that one day he’d be the biggest star on the planet.
Like in BAD25, ‘Off the Wall’ gets the track-by-track treatment, but only in the second half. The first hour of MICHAEL JACKSON’S JOURNEY FROM MOTOWN TO OFF THE WALL centers around Jackson’s departure from Motown in his teens, when him and most of his brothers (except Jermaine) broke off and formed The Jacksons after they were legally prevented from continuing with the Jackson 5 name. It’s revealed that at the time the band was struggling in the charts, with the management at their new label not sure if the group would ever be able to win back the fans that abandoned them. After a few mediocre albums, the group bounced back with the hugely successful ‘Destiny’ album, anchored by the back-to-back funk/disco hits ‘Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground’ and ‘Blame it on the Boogie.’
From here, MJ gets hired to play the Scarecrow in Sidney Lumet’s THE WIZ, where he meets Quincy Jones who encourages Michael to finally branch out to amazing effect. Lee’s assembled a great lineup of interviews, including THE WIZ co-writer Joel Schumacher and producer Rob Cohen, along with contemporaries like David Byrne, to Jackson acolytes Questlove and The Weekend and even Lee himself in one memorable bit where he remembers scalping Broadway tickets to THE WIZ.
One thing that’s certain to come out of MICHAEL JACKSON’S JOURNEY FROM MOTOWN TO OFF THE WALL is a new appreciation of the album. While more disco-tinged than his later albums, the case is proven that the album holds up as well as anything in MJ’s catalog, with ‘Don’t Stop Till’ You Get Enough’ remaining one of his definitive songs. The stories are really interesting, particularly when it gets to the ballad ‘She’s Out of My Life’, with the songwriter revealing that it was originally intended from Frank Sinatra, only for Quincy Jones to ask for the writer’s permission to sit on it until he could find the right artist for it. It’s shown how Jackson’s emotional performances of the song became one of the things that defined his early solo career, with Lee having fun cutting back-and-forth from Jackson to Eddie Murphy’s famous impression of him singing the song from EDDIE MURPHY: DELIRIOUS.
Through it all, Lee’s doc is an entertaining celebration of the man, with some juicy moments including a bit where MJ resists performing his old Jackson 5 hits in concert, until finally agreeing for his audience’s sake - much to his brothers chagrin. Lee also gets into the whole “Disco Sucks” movement that sprang up around the release of ‘Off the Wall’ making the argument that it had more to do with latent racism and homophobia than it did with any change in public tastes. This itself could prove fertile ground for Lee if he decided to branch out into the era a little more with another doc.
Jackson’s legions of fans (of which I’m one) will definitely love Lee’s new doc, and it played to packed houses throughout Sundance, even though it’s set to make it’s cable debut in just a few days. Jackson’s legacy lives on - and if nothing else after watching Lee’s doc you’re going to want to go out and listen to the album again.
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/tv-...y-from-motown-to-off-the-wall-sundance-240-03
TV Review: Michael Jackson's Journey From Motown to Off the Wall (Sundance)
PLOT: Director Spike Lee charts Michael Jackson’s initial success as a solo artist, with his breakout smash hit album, ‘Off the Wall.’
REVIEW: Who would have thought that director Spike Lee would become the definitive film-chronicler of the life and career of Michael Jackson? Best known for hard-hitting fare, Lee eschews this style to make a documentary that’s pure pop - a fact that’s appropriate given that MJ was indeed “The King of Pop.”
This is actually Lee’s second Michael Jackson documentary, with his BAD25 having played at TIFF a few years ago. Rumor has it this is the second in a planned MJ trilogy, with Jackson’s “Thriller” the next album to get documentary treatment. Lee’s Jackson fandom seems authentic, and as in BAD25, anyone looking for controversy should look elsewhere. This is a celebration of the music - nothing more, nothing less.
It’s interesting that following BAD25 Lee turned his attention to ‘Off the Wall’. While a staggering success, it’s been overshadowed by Jackson’s later efforts, which still rank among the best selling albums of all-time. Maybe it’s the lack of familiarity contemporary audiences have with Jackson’s time in-between the days of The Jackson 5 and ‘Off the Wall’ that encouraged him to take this approach. The result is a fascinating glimpse into the pop machine that was Michael Jackson, with the image presented here being of a man fully confident in his own abilities and the fact that one day he’d be the biggest star on the planet.
Like in BAD25, ‘Off the Wall’ gets the track-by-track treatment, but only in the second half. The first hour of MICHAEL JACKSON’S JOURNEY FROM MOTOWN TO OFF THE WALL centers around Jackson’s departure from Motown in his teens, when him and most of his brothers (except Jermaine) broke off and formed The Jacksons after they were legally prevented from continuing with the Jackson 5 name. It’s revealed that at the time the band was struggling in the charts, with the management at their new label not sure if the group would ever be able to win back the fans that abandoned them. After a few mediocre albums, the group bounced back with the hugely successful ‘Destiny’ album, anchored by the back-to-back funk/disco hits ‘Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground’ and ‘Blame it on the Boogie.’
From here, MJ gets hired to play the Scarecrow in Sidney Lumet’s THE WIZ, where he meets Quincy Jones who encourages Michael to finally branch out to amazing effect. Lee’s assembled a great lineup of interviews, including THE WIZ co-writer Joel Schumacher and producer Rob Cohen, along with contemporaries like David Byrne, to Jackson acolytes Questlove and The Weekend and even Lee himself in one memorable bit where he remembers scalping Broadway tickets to THE WIZ.
One thing that’s certain to come out of MICHAEL JACKSON’S JOURNEY FROM MOTOWN TO OFF THE WALL is a new appreciation of the album. While more disco-tinged than his later albums, the case is proven that the album holds up as well as anything in MJ’s catalog, with ‘Don’t Stop Till’ You Get Enough’ remaining one of his definitive songs. The stories are really interesting, particularly when it gets to the ballad ‘She’s Out of My Life’, with the songwriter revealing that it was originally intended from Frank Sinatra, only for Quincy Jones to ask for the writer’s permission to sit on it until he could find the right artist for it. It’s shown how Jackson’s emotional performances of the song became one of the things that defined his early solo career, with Lee having fun cutting back-and-forth from Jackson to Eddie Murphy’s famous impression of him singing the song from EDDIE MURPHY: DELIRIOUS.
Through it all, Lee’s doc is an entertaining celebration of the man, with some juicy moments including a bit where MJ resists performing his old Jackson 5 hits in concert, until finally agreeing for his audience’s sake - much to his brothers chagrin. Lee also gets into the whole “Disco Sucks” movement that sprang up around the release of ‘Off the Wall’ making the argument that it had more to do with latent racism and homophobia than it did with any change in public tastes. This itself could prove fertile ground for Lee if he decided to branch out into the era a little more with another doc.
Jackson’s legions of fans (of which I’m one) will definitely love Lee’s new doc, and it played to packed houses throughout Sundance, even though it’s set to make it’s cable debut in just a few days. Jackson’s legacy lives on - and if nothing else after watching Lee’s doc you’re going to want to go out and listen to the album again.
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/tv-...y-from-motown-to-off-the-wall-sundance-240-03
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Ron Alexenburg Himself
Lemon Andersen Himself
Larkin Arnold Himself
Fred Astaire Himself (archive footage)
Patti Austin Herself (archive footage)
Carole Bayer Sager Herself
Dan Beck Himself
David Berkowitz Himself (archive footage)
Bob Birch Himself (archive footage)
John Branca Himself
Kobe Bryant Himself
David Byrne Himself
Sylvia Chase Herself (archive footage)
Rob Cohen Himself
Bobby Colomby Himself
Barry Michael Cooper Himself
Misty Copeland Herself
Frankie Crocker Himself (archive footage)
Steve Dahl Himself (archive footage)
Lee Daniels Himself
Sammy Davis Jr. Himself (archive footage)
Suzanne De Passe Herself
Paris Eley Himself (archive footage)
David Foster Himself
Kenny Gamble Himself
Siedah Garrett Herself
Marvin Gaye III Himself (archive footage)
Berry Gordy Himself
Susaye Greene Herself
Leon Huff Himself
Steven Ivory Himself
Jackie Jackson Himself
Joe Jackson Himself
Katherine Jackson Herself
La Toya Jackson Herself (archive footage)
Marlon Jackson Himself
Michael Jackson Himself (archive footage)
Randy Jackson Himself (archive footage)
Tito Jackson Himself (archive footage)
Rodney Jerkins Himself
Louis Johnson Himself (archive footage)
Quincy Jones Himself
Gene Kelly Himself (archive footage)
Jason King Himself
Karen Langford Herself
Spike Lee Himself
John Legend Himself
John Leguizamo Himself
Steven Manning Himself
Paul McCartney Himself (archive footage)
Liza Minnelli Herself (archive footage)
Jonathan Moffett Himself
Eddie Murphy Himself (archive footage)
Mali Music Himself
Don Myrick Himself (archive footage)
Jane Pauley Herself (archive footage)
Rosie Perez Herself
Greg Phillinganes Himself
Steve Popovich Himself (archive footage)
L.A. Reid Himself
Fatima Robinson Herself
Mark Ronson Himself
Diana Ross Herself (archive footage)
Joel Schumacher Himself
Brooke ******* Herself (archive footage)
Valerie Simpson Herself
Esperanza Spalding Herself
DJ Spinna Himself
Bruce Swedien Himself
Ahmir-Khalib Thompson Himself
Justin Timberlake Himself (archive footage)
Joe Vogel Himself
Maurice Warfield Himself
The Weeknd Himself
Harry Weinger Himself
Verdine White Himself
David Williams Himself (archive footage)
Pharrell Williams Himself
Jackie Wilson Himself (archive footage)
Stevie Wonder Himself
Walter Yetnikoff Himself
Larry Carlton Himself (uncredited)
Janet Jackson Herself (uncredited)
Jermaine Jackson Himself (uncredited)
Gladys Knight Herself (uncredited)
Smokey Robinson Himself (uncredited)
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They could've at least gave us you can't win & sunset driver as filler tracks or something. Anything bonus!
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This was discussed in length some 20-30 pages ago. Ivy posted parts of Quincy Jones' lawsuit against Michael Jackson's Estate in which says that if anything is added to the original album that he produced he must give his consent.
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Ooh yay! I was wondering the other day if Macca was in the doco (be it new or archival footage), hoping he was and now I'm glad he is
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But Is getting his consent that hard to do?
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that's not really any better than just the album without any bonus, since the songs already been released. You can't Win ain't even anything "special", as it was released on the The Wiz soundtrack when the movie came out in 1978
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Did u wanna just get that fun fact out being that we or should i say i