Taryll Jackson tweets...

But that's not what she seems to be saying to the media, she blames the estate. To me it looks like they have been doing their best to accomodate her.

In a telephone interview, Katherine Jackson praised administrators John Branca and John McClain for doing "a very good job" managing the estate but criticized her monthly cash allowance of $7,000 to $8,000 as inadequate and said it left her dependent on Mann to cover her expenses.

"I wish they would leave Howard alone and I wish they would leave me alone for working with Howard. I'm not greedy like people say. It's need not greed," she said.

The estate disputes the suggestion that administrators are not meeting her living expenses. Weitzman, the lawyer, noted that the allowance was approved by a probate judge and said the cash payments were only one aspect of the financial support that administrators provided. The estate also paid off the mortgage on the family home in Encino and foots the bill for household staff, security, vehicles, food, tuition and vacations.

"The estate has spent millions of dollars for Mrs. Jackson's benefit and on the direct living expenses of both Mrs. Jackson and the children," Weitzman said.

But for Katherine Jackson, it is not enough. "I think I should be getting more," she said. She declined to specify why she needed the money. Her husband, Joe, sought an allowance from the court but was denied. Several other grandchildren also reside at the family home.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-michael-jackson-20101212,0,2867570.story
 
she thinks she should be getting more?

how much was Michael giving her monthly does anyone know? No wonder poor MJ was having financial difficulties. He was being sued left and right for years and years. He wasn't working because of the criminal case and he was giving his mother money to take care of all the folks in that house. Katherine can live on 7000 per month. She's 80 years old. If the house is paid for and all the utilities and other bills what else is she doing with 7 grand per month??

Can she ask her rich daughter to supplement her income instead of her getting friendly with a porn producer?
 
she thinks she should be getting more?

how much was Michael giving her monthly does anyone know? No wonder poor MJ was having financial difficulties. He was being sued left and right for years and years. He wasn't working because of the criminal case and he was giving his mother money to take care of all the folks in that house. Katherine can live on 7000 per month. She's 80 years old. If the house is paid for and all the utilities and other bills what else is she doing with 7 grand per month??

Can she ask her rich daughter to supplement her income instead of her getting friendly with a porn producer?

I have to say I agree with you. :agree:
 
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well, if you read the will you will know there is nothing shady about it. Even after the probate is over and the admins take full control of the estate and the trust ,MJ's instructed them to pay for Katherine's living expenses only for the rest of her life nothing more nothing less regardless of the figures put in her trust.
For example, MJ granted his kids the privileges of asking for more for weddings, new houses, education and to start new business. His mother was not. She can't ask for more money to do businesses or anything else beside her living expenses, she sure can't ask to support financially other family members .The estate is bonded by MJ to cover her living expenses ONLY as long as she is alive.
Let's assume Hyvenhurst was not owned by the estate. Katherine needed a permanent house to live in. The estate under the will's term had to provide her with home allowance, still she would not have the right to decide whether the house be bought or rented. In case the estate decided to buy a house, she would not have any right to demand it's registered in her name. A house could be bought using money from her trust but would be registered in the estate's name because the assets should at the end be inherited by the real heirs of the estate which are MJ's kids and not Katherine's heirs. Clear?
She can hire an army of lawyers and demand more claiming the estate is making hundreds of millions of dollars and the profits deposit in the trust created in her name worth hundreds of millions , beside a monthly allowance covering only her living expenses which are fully determined by the executors ,she will not get anything. That's MJ's wish.
In Elvis's will he dedicated a section listing the members of his family who should have been provided for after his death and the exact expenses his estate should have been covering ( those were beneficiaries of the will) even though his daughter was the only heir of his estate.

MJ could have done the same with his siblings, cousins,joe....etc. He not only did not name any of them as beneficiary of any sort , he also actively limited Katherine's ability to provide for any of them using her position as a short term beneficiary of his will.

The judge determined Katherine's allowance as $ 24.000 a month. Believe me if she does not need more for health care , even after the probate is over that could be the amount she will get for the rest of her life.
That will was worded in away that showed great respect to Katherine but still clear indication there was great lack of confidence in her decisions. His kids at 30, 35 and 40 will get to control and make decisions but his mother will never do.
MJ committed himself to protect her for begging the rest of the family for an allowance he knew for sure they would not even provide. Beside her LIVING EXPENSES he made sure she does not get a penny unless the executors say otherwise.
that's why the family was super pissed after they got hold of the wills documents, their lawyers explained to them that "40% beneficiary “word was only there to show 'respect' when in reality the situation was far far from that.

That's an excellent summary of it in a nutshell. Lets be honest, we know why the Jackson family was kicking off about the will and its because they got nothing from it. Family members from all walks of life will kick off about wills when they don't get what they want from it and I speak from personal experience as my grandfather's Estate got pretty messy with some family members claiming all sorts as they essentially didn't get what they wanted from it. Michael knew exactly what he was doing with this will and did it in a way that his mother would be provided for but not in a way that other family members could squander it all. It's the kids that are the heirs and even they wont get full control of it until they are 40 years old. By the time that happens the estate is estimated to be in the billions, meaning that each of the kids will be a billionaire at 40. But he did it in a way that encourages them to stand on their own two feet until then so they don't just sit back and let the money pile in. Its an extremely well thought out will and using a lawyer and a music executive as executors was also a brilliant move. When executors are not impartial it just causes trouble.
 
I agree with the post above 1000%
I would also ask everyone to sit back and calm down a bit... I want the truth just like you guys but I'm not gonna get to angry or over worked about something we really can't change.. I would say stop reading taryll, teddy and the cascios tweets and messages and just support the album cause mj name is on it, even if you don't believe the 3 songs are him. Everyone just needs to step back n take a deep breath LOL..
Also I'm sure that taryll receives just as many hate tweets as teddy but you don't see him insulting everyone in interviews and on Twitter to get his point across... he needs to chill cause that doesn't make his case looks good
 
That's an excellent summary of it in a nutshell. Lets be honest, we know why the Jackson family was kicking off about the will and its because they got nothing from it. Family members from all walks of life will kick off about wills when they don't get what they want from it and I speak from personal experience as my grandfather's Estate got pretty messy with some family members claiming all sorts as they essentially didn't get what they wanted from it.

Agree, estaes/wills getting messy is pretty common and not something that only happens to the Jackson family lol.

My best friends grandfather had three kids. Two of his kids didnt had any contact with their father, called him twice a year maybe. When he passed, his will went to his son who had a long loving relationsship with his father. Of course, the other siblings now wanted their share as well and started to mess and cause all this drama. If this is the case with the Jacksons, then Im not surprised. My hope is that Michaels wishes will be respected
 
the issue, sm, is that all the money she gets goes to the moonies for that damn lawsuit she defaulted on. so no matter how much she gets, she doesn't keep it. now what she keeps or is left over in her account each month, is hers to will away. so i ASSume their logic is, y r we gonna give her more then 26 grand a month when it all goes to a lawsuit? it's not like giving her 100k a month will be any better. nothing carries over.

How much was that lawsuit on her that she defaulted? Do we know how much from her allowance goes to the Koreans? Isnt it possible to speed the process, e.g to pay the whole damn amount from Katherines share? Cant the estate loan her some money to pay that off, just like they have loaned her money before which will later be detracted from her share?

The estate could loan her money so she could pay the Koreans.. and then her allowance could decrease to lets say 20,000/month instead of 26,000 so the estate could be able to slowly start collect the money they loaned her? Its this wishful thinking? LOL

So, does Katherine mean that after all her expenses (clothing, entertainment, utilities, driver, assitant) and paying off that lawsuit to the Koreans, she only has 7,000/month left? And like some has alreadt pointed out.. Michael gave her money his entire life, what about if Janet could give her mama some money now? Heck, even LaToya has it good financially.
 
How much was that lawsuit on her that she defaulted? Do we know how much from her allowance goes to the Koreans? Isnt it possible to speed the process, e.g to pay the whole damn amount from Katherines share? Cant the estate loan her some money to pay that off, just like they have loaned her money before which will later be detracted from her share?

The estate could loan her money so she could pay the Koreans.. and then her allowance could decrease to lets say 20,000/month instead of 26,000 so the estate could be able to slowly start collect the money they loaned her? Its this wishful thinking? LOL

So, does Katherine mean that after all her expenses (clothing, entertainment, utilities, driver, assitant) and paying off that lawsuit to the Koreans, she only has 7,000/month left? And like some has alreadt pointed out.. Michael gave her money his entire life, what about if Janet could give her mama some money now? Heck, even LaToya has it good financially.
all her employees such as driver, servant, cook, maid, and the assistant she does not need, all of them are paid by the estate separetly. Not a dime of her allowance goes into paying employees or utilities.
I believe it's around $10/20 mil, and why should the estate pay off her debt? When the debt is a result of harassing Michael Jackson? It's her debt, she should go and ask her great living children for money, I'm sure she remembers the eight other children she has, the ones who don't have a ''toothpick thin nose''. Woman's got a dozen kids one of them is swimming in money. They should provide for her ''needs'
 
I believe it's around $10/20 mil, and why should the estate pay off her debt? When the debt is a result of harassing Michael Jackson? It's her debt, she should go and ask her great living children for money, I'm sure she remembers the eight other children she has, the ones who don't have a ''toothpick thin nose''. Woman's got a dozen kids one of them is swimming in money. They should provide for her ''needs'

ohh i didnt know it could be that high.. i dont know how much I thought it would be but certainly not that amount... thats why i saw it so easy for her to just be loaned some money which would later be detracted from either her allowance or share as the estate previous did.. BUT absoulutely not if its that amount

so, if the estate does pay for employees or utilities then why does she say she is only getting 7,000/month? It cant be that the koreans are getting 19,000 from her allowance?

Thats why like Ivy pointed out, its not even necessary to increase her allowance because then the Koreans can might get more from her allowance- which they ARE entitled to

This is Katherines mess. Thats why you dont cheat out on business ventures, it will sooner or later bite ur ass.

Thank God Michael settled that case.
 
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The estate DOES pay for the other bills such as the above mentioned. I hope the Koreans get every dime off her,
 
The estate DOES pay for the other bills such as the above mentioned. I hope the Koreans get every dime off her,

Yeah ugh I know, i made a typo. Ive corrected it now.

So IF the estate pays for her expenses like drivers, home, assitant etc, does this mean the Koreans are getting 19,000 from her allowance or why does she claim she is only getting 7,000/month?? Either the koreans are getting 19,000 or she is fabricating this to gain sympathy.
 
all you saying that Katherine has other children, singling out Janet, do we acctually know that she isn't giving any money to support her ?? Just a question... We jump to conclusions too offten.
 
she said in court papers she has no other money other that what mj gave her now the estate
 
Yeah ugh I know, i made a typo. Ive corrected it now.

So IF the estate pays for her expenses like drivers, home, assitant etc, does this mean the Koreans are getting 19,000 from her allowance or why does she claim she is only getting 7,000/month?? Either the koreans are getting 19,000 or she is fabricating this to gain sympathy.

have the koreans even gone that far. there was a report saying they were watching. but surely if they did go after her they would be filing court documents stating what they want.
 
This thread has reached 28 pages and has accused Taryll of all the crap some of his relatives have done in the past:

-It's obvious that the family is divided. The T brothers didn't know the details about the Oprah interview until it was done. Their grandmother and other relatives kept them out. I'm not going to pin the crap that LaToya, Jermaine, Randy, and Joe has done on Taj, Taryll, and TJ

-Jackie helped out on the album and he and John McClain both told the higher ups that the songs shouldn't be included but it was ultimately decided that the songs were going to be on the album

-Michael's voice on Hollywood Tonight and the lead vocals on Keep Your Head Up and Monster don't sound alike, so I have to disagree

What does Taryll and his brothers really gain from all of this? plus like I've said before, they're not boycotting the album. They've repeatedly said they're support the album and support the songs they feel for sure are Michael, it's just Keep Your Head Up, Breaking News, and Monster they have a problem with and from what I've read on other music forums and reviews (although I don't take those seriously), others do too
 
have the koreans even gone that far. there was a report saying they were watching. but surely if they did go after her they would be filing court documents stating what they want.

yeah exactly i hanvt heard anything either.

So lets assume the Koreans are just watching her at the moment but havnt taken any action and the estate are paying for her driver, assistant, utilities, maintance of Hayvenhurst, security etc.. then why is she saying she is only getting 7,000/month??

We know per courtdocuments she is getting 26,000/month and in late september went to court to ask for an increase. You would think there must be grounds for her to say she is only getting 7,000?? Is she doing that to gain sympathy or whats her motives then??
 
Actually the Korean firm applied to the estate in June. The application was denied in September. First two quotes are from TMZ, last two are the supporting summaries from the LA Superior Court website.

Segye Times, a South Korean newspaper, filed papers with the Michael Jackson estate, informing the court it got a judgment against Katherine in 1994 for $4 million. That's when the newspaper advanced Katherine, Joe and Jermaine $5.5 million for a series of Jackson family concerts that never took place.

Segye claims with interest the judgment now exceeds $13 million, and it wants an order from the judge forcing the estate to pay Segye any money the estate might pay Katherine.

Now here's how Katherine screwed herself. By making all the deals she's been making -- for books, gala events and such -- she's made it clear to the world her goal is to roll in dough and Segye has taken notice.

We're told the newspaper will go to court on September 14 to try and wrestle money earmarked for Katherine from the MJ trust.


From the Court case summary

Documents filed:
06/24/2010 Enforce Money Judgment 06/24/2010 Memorandum - Other (P & A Filed in support of Petn for Enforcement of Money Judgmnt; etc. )
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

Proceeding information:
09/14/2010 at 08:30 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
ENFORCE MONEY JUDGMENT - Denied without prejudice
 
^^ What was the reason the case got denied? Denied without prejudice meaning the Koreans cant refile the same claim against her right?

the 4 mil has increased now due to the interest I think?

Yeah according to the TMZ article above, the interest exceeds $13 million now.
 
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^^ What was the reason the case got denied? Denied without prejudice meaning the Koreans cant refile the same claim against her right?

They don't give reasons on case summary page, just the decision, so I don't know.
 
They don't give reasons on case summary page, just the decision, so I don't know.

Thanks.

Poor Segye Times to be screwed over like that. They advanced them with $5 million and Kat, Joe and Jermaine thanked them by running away with their money. Thats really fucked up.

So now if Katherine is not paying Segye Times what she really owes them and the estate pays for most Katherines expenses and for Hayvenhurst, it would be really interesting to know why she cant live on $26000/month.
 
actually without prejudice means that the court couldn't come to a decision and the both sides can pursue other legal action.

It means that Segye Times can file their claim or open another lawsuit etc. They haven't lost anything, it just that the probate judge thought that he can't make a decision (either didn't see enough evidence or thought that it wasn't his decision to make).


edit : I just saw that it says "denied without prejudice". Apparently Judge Berkloff thought it wasn't something that he could decide on. So he denied the request but "without prejudice" which allows Segye to refile their lawsuit from appropriate channels, courts etc.
 
actually without prejudice means that the court couldn't come to a decision and the both sides can pursue other legal action.

It means that Segye Times can file their claim or open another lawsuit etc. They haven't lost anything, it just that the probate judge thought that he can't make a decision (either didn't see enough evidence or thought that it wasn't his decision to make).


edit : I just saw that it says "denied without prejudice". Apparently Judge Berkloff thought it wasn't something that he could decide on. So he denied the request but "without prejudice" which allows Segye to refile their lawsuit from appropriate channels, courts etc.

Thanks Ivy! So they can file again if they wish. Wonder if they will do that or not.
 
actually without prejudice means that the court couldn't come to a decision and the both sides can pursue other legal action.

It means that Segye Times can file their claim or open another lawsuit etc. They haven't lost anything, it just that the probate judge thought that he can't make a decision (either didn't see enough evidence or thought that it wasn't his decision to make).


edit : I just saw that it says "denied without prejudice". Apparently Judge Berkloff thought it wasn't something that he could decide on. So he denied the request but "without prejudice" which allows Segye to refile their lawsuit from appropriate channels, courts etc.

Thanks ivy, that's what I thought but I was doing a little on-line checking to be sure I had the right interpretation.
 
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