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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Small stuff but the jackson.ch channel gave a very brief description on how "Bombay Nights" sounds like. It's a slightly funky instrumental, and it's very repetitive. Yeah.


And also "Children's Holiday" and "People Of The World" were actually made during the HIStory sessions instead of after? Not sure if that's the case or if there's an error in the auto-translate.

 
AlwaysThere said:
Very valid question!

In my opinion, you hit the nail on the head: MJ’s official catalog has already been examined, dissected, and documented to a decently extensive degree. Of course some albums have gotten more attention than others, and it’s important to keep these conversations going for newcomers and the next generation. But at this point, I’ve heard the story of Quincy accidentally stumbling on “Human Nature” a million times, and I just don’t care to hear it again.

His vault is more tantalizing to me because it’s so shrouded in mystery and uncertainty. It seems like every year we discover another song title, or we learn that a song that was commonly thought to be an instrumental actually has full vocals, or we’re told that a track thought to have been recorded for Invincible originated during the Bad sessions. There’s so many unanswered questions.

For me, while I’d savor the opportunity, I don’t have much interest in hearing another anecdote about the recording of “Black or White.” But if Michael Prince offered to tell us about “H2O?” I’d be sat.
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I agree a thousand percent.

Finding out new information is like discovering sunken treasure.

Even without actually hearing the music, being reassured with titles and the details of songs that I've heard about fills me with hope that eventually they will see the light of day.
 
Fuzball said:
He did a demo for EA. And I think for C, too. Iirc, John Barnes said so; (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this).
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Would love to hear those! Beano’s AI of Eaten Alive is fantastic but definitely makes you wonder what the real vocal sounds like! Centipede would just be phenomenal!
 
james283126 said:
Would love to hear those! Beano’s AI of Eaten Alive is fantastic but definitely makes you wonder what the real vocal sounds like! Centipede would just be phenomenal!
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Agree, would love to hear that. Would also love to hear a demo of Nighttime Lover.

I guess someone would have to ask Rebbie if MJ recorded his version of Centipede.
 
Hopefully we get to hear the 1979 version of Little Susie with additional lyrics

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Which song existed first, She Got It or Superfly Sister? Or did they come into existence at the same time?

They're pretty similar, obviously both being Loren tracks.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Which song existed first, She Got It or Superfly Sister? Or did they come into existence at the same time?

They're pretty similar, obviously both being Loren tracks.
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I don’t think there’s a consensus there. Sundberg estimated that “Superfly Sister” originated in/around April 1990. No real clue on “She Got It,” though the general belief is that that one is from 1989.

Side note: “She Got It” is one of MJ’s best outtakes and is a better Prince song than anything Prince has ever done. I say what I mean and I mean what I say.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Regular post gushing about Dream Away and how it's amazing we never heard a word about it before it was randomly played at a seminar.
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Truly baffling. Stunning song.

I do feel terrible for Steve Porcaro though. He kept it close to chest for 40 years, and the FIRST time he plays it outside of the estate hemisphere it leaks, alongside the song he’s been working for decades to have released (“Chicago 1945”). Just a sad situation.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Regular post gushing about Dream Away and how it's amazing we never heard a word about it before it was randomly played at a seminar.
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And how he should not have done that maybe because it's just another incredible hidden treasure that's been spoiled.
 
I went through Brads HIStory podcast again (recommended, go check it out): https://itswmjpodcast00.podbean.com...-with-matt-forger-rob-hoffman-and-tony-black/

Here are some quotes that may be interesting:

Timestamp: 59:40
Brad Sundberg: One question is, did you ever get the feeling in a session that this song is something special and what song was it for you? What song did you work on that you just knew "this is bananas, this is gonna be around for a long time".

Tony Black: *Talks about YANA and SiM*

Rob Hoffmann: Im with you on that. My first experience with SiM was hearing it at Sony studio. The beginning of my Michael sessions was Bruce and Rene. We were working on 2Bad or what was to become 2Bad and a lot of other tracks. Tracks nobody has ever heard before, just to fuel the rumour. Theres probably 20 Rene songs out there, maybe more.



Timestamp: 01:06:20
Brad Sundberg: Was there a song on the album you felt unsure of or think didn't fit on the album? *talks about DS*

Tony Black: I don't really know if I have enough contact with all the songs to know "ok that one shouldn't have made it". I can't really think of a song. *talks about hiphop* Everything felt like it belonged. There are some songs that I can't even tell you what they were. I do remember (songs) from different other contributers that didn't made the album I think should have. There is a lot of those where I thought "thats a good one", but then they're gone. Theres a bunch of Babyface collaborations that were amazing. And they hit the bin, I don't know.
 
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