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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

As it turns out, Sunset Driver was recorded at Yamaha R&D Studios in Glendale, California... That studio appears to have opened in 1981 and Keith Seppanen began his role as chief engineer there at the same time.
It's there if you check Discogs for information on both... It featured on the Feb '84 issue of Mix magazine - a professional music industry/studio magazine from the time - which said the studio was just under 3 years old then...

Which points to Sunset Driver being recorded at least as early as 1981. Presuming both the engineering and studio credits are accurate.
 
Random thought but considering that SPYHO was listed on an early listing for Bad SE, I wonder if the version that leaked is the same as the one intended for the SE on the early tracklist
 
Eventidescape1 said:
As it turns out, Sunset Driver was recorded at Yamaha R&D Studios in Glendale, California... That studio appears to have opened in 1981 and Keith Seppanen began his role as chief engineer there at the same time.
It's there if you check Discogs for information on both.

Which points to Sunset Driver being recorded at least as early as 1981... Presuming both credits are accurate.
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I live in Glendale and I have no recollection of a Yamaha R&D Studio, did it close? cant find any info on it online
 
threepea11 said:
Random thought but considering that SPYHO was listed on an early listing for Bad SE, I wonder if the version that leaked is the same as the one intended for the SE on the early tracklist
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It was definitely a short version of the song, I also remember me being told which version was supposed to be on there but I don‘t remember which one it was going to be, it either was a shortened down version of the 1987 or of the 1991 mix
 
Eventidescape1 said:
As it turns out, Sunset Driver was recorded at Yamaha R&D Studios in Glendale, California... That studio appears to have opened in 1981 and Keith Seppanen began his role as chief engineer there at the same time.
It's there if you check Discogs for information on both... It featured on the Feb '84 issue of Mix magazine - a professional music industry/studio magazine from the time - which said the studio was just under 3 years old then...

Which points to Sunset Driver being recorded at least as early as 1981. Presuming both the engineering and studio credits are accurate.
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that explains why Sunset Driver sounds so markedly different from the other tracks recorded at Westlake.
 
mjfp said:
It was definitely a short version of the song, I also remember me being told which version was supposed to be on there but I don‘t remember which one it was going to be, it either was a shortened down version of the 1987 or of the 1991 mix
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It was the '91 version
 
Clay7 said:
The version on Bad SE is literally just the Dangerous version but shortened lol
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The leak is probably from the early Dangerous sessions, or maybe from Bad... One of the tape inserts from Sundberg leaks dates SPYHO to February 1990.

Which was before Teddy Riley's involvement. He joined the Dangerous sessions in early 1991 - i.e. later in production - and helped Michael update the song.
 
Eventidescape1 said:
As it turns out, Sunset Driver was recorded at Yamaha R&D Studios in Glendale, California... That studio appears to have opened in 1981 and Keith Seppanen began his role as chief engineer there at the same time.
It's there if you check Discogs for information on both... It featured on the Feb '84 issue of Mix magazine - a professional music industry/studio magazine from the time - which said the studio was just under 3 years old then...

Which points to Sunset Driver being recorded at least as early as 1981. Presuming both the engineering and studio credits are accurate.
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Thank you for this! This is about as concrete as we’ll get short of seeing the session sheets.
 
Eventidescape1 said:
As it turns out, Sunset Driver was recorded at Yamaha R&D Studios in Glendale, California... That studio appears to have opened in 1981 and Keith Seppanen began his role as chief engineer there at the same time.
It's there if you check Discogs for information on both... It featured on the Feb '84 issue of Mix magazine - a professional music industry/studio magazine from the time - which said the studio was just under 3 years old then...

Which points to Sunset Driver being recorded at least as early as 1981. Presuming both the engineering and studio credits are accurate.
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wait so janet still helped mj with demos in 1981
 
BlackAnon said:
This was an early Thriller list before songs were replaced during the last few weeks of the session

Wanna Be Startin Somethin
Hot Street
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Billie Jean
She's Trouble
Nightline
Carousel
The Lady In My Life
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behind mask wasnt in it?
 
^^
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A group of Michael Jackson scores for the following songs: "Hot Street" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "7-20-82"; "Slapstick" sketch score marked "Demo," title is crossed out and "Hot Street" written as the new title, dated "7-12-82"; "She's Trouble" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; "Carousel" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; "Nightline" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; and "Behind the Mask" sketch score marked "(Not Used)."

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A group of musical scores from Michael Jackson's Thriller album including "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' " marked "demo" listing Michael Jackson as the producer and "Q.J." (Quincy Jones) as the composer; "Baby Be Mine" sketch score marked "demo," dated "7-20-82," and noting "QJ" as the arranger; "The Girl Is Mine" marked "Prelim"; "Thriller" sketch score marked "Prelim," dated "8-3-82," and noting that the former title was "Starlite"; "Human Nature" sketch score marked "demo"; "P.Y.T." marked "Q.J ." and "Final."
 
ChanceToDance said:
I'm alright with "Hot Street" not being on Thriller 40, the song would've stood out way too much in comparison to the songs that ended up on disc 2 which most of them were nothing remarkable to begin with, so I'd prefer that it's saved for a proper album.

What still pisses me off, however, is that they put CGOOTR on the tracklist. Why couldn't have they put on the demo of "Don't Matter To Me" instead? The song has already been released, it technically wouldn't make the Estate waste an unheard song while at the same time it would still give the fans something "new" to enjoy. It would've been a safer pick.
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Would’ve taken TGIM demo over CGOOTR
 
phantasqued said:
behind mask wasnt in it?
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Fuzball said:
^^
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A group of Michael Jackson scores for the following songs: "Hot Street" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "7-20-82"; "Slapstick" sketch score marked "Demo," title is crossed out and "Hot Street" written as the new title, dated "7-12-82"; "She's Trouble" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; "Carousel" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; "Nightline" sketch score marked "(Not Used)" and dated "8-3-82"; and "Behind the Mask" sketch score marked "(Not Used)."

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A group of musical scores from Michael Jackson's Thriller album including "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' " marked "demo" listing Michael Jackson as the producer and "Q.J." (Quincy Jones) as the composer; "Baby Be Mine" sketch score marked "demo," dated "7-20-82," and noting "QJ" as the arranger; "The Girl Is Mine" marked "Prelim"; "Thriller" sketch score marked "Prelim," dated "8-3-82," and noting that the former title was "Starlite"; "Human Nature" sketch score marked "demo"; "P.Y.T." marked "Q.J ." and "Final."
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To my knowledge, BTM was cut before the album became Thriller. Since Michael wrote an additional verse, he wanted a bigger percentage and Yellow Orchestra pretty much said “no” and declined the clearance. All “alleged” of course
 
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