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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

NeoGardiV12 said:
Never hated Michael more than I do now.
He really had some shitty ass takes sometimes, not even gonna lie.

I love Music From the New World too, it's unfortunate how there's literally no lossless version of this album on the internet...
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Streetwalker is a weird song, will always be a weird song, no matter what version lol. Another Part Of Me Truthers stay Up.
 
innuendo141 said:
It sounds very "muddy" production wise to me. I think it would sound way better if it had that Remember The Time / BODFT beat behind it and polished a bit. I was always very hot and cold with the song as I always much preferred She Got It.
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The Hook itself is incredible and the ad libs help it finish out strong. I’d punch up the harmonies mostly.
 
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Michael Jackson Incredible Unreleased & Unedited Songs With Bryan Loren - Including “7 Digits", “All The Truth You Need", “Don't Believe It" & More​

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Michael Jackson Incredible Unreleased & Unedited Songs With Bryan Loren - Including “7 Digits", “All The Truth You Need", “Don't Believe It" & More.

Offered here is an incredible collection of unreleased & unedited songs from Michael Jackson's work with famed producer Bryan Loren. Presented here are two cassettes, copied straight from the original DAT tapes, given to our consignor by Bryan Loren.

Included in the cassettes are as below:

7 Digits (15:53) - Early writing session version - (Never heard. Never leaked). Song is on both sides of the cassette. Side B is a continuation of Side A. This is the first version of 7 Digits. MJ is writing the song as he sings on this, so there are several takes of the song with MJ playing with lyrical ideas. He hadn't come up with the theme of “7 Digits" yet on these early takes. But, the music is the same as his final “7 Digits" song. In between takes, MJ is talking to Bryan in the studio directing him on music ideas.

Serious Effect (rough version) (5:35) - Complete - MJ singing the whole song. This version has not been leaked. There is a leaked version online that is edited/shorter than this version and includes a rap by LL Cool J. This version has only MJ's vocals and is longer than the leaked version.

Son of Thriller (5:30) (Instrumental) - Complete - (Never released. Never heard)

She Got It (5:24) - Complete- MJ singing lead on the whole song and talking through the song to direct Bryan. (Edited/shorter version of this was leaked on YT).

Superfly Sista (original unedited rough cut) - (7:28) Complete - MJ singing lead on entire song (An edited version, that is one minute shorter than this version, appears on the Blood On The Dancefloor album).

Work That Body - (5:43) - (original unedited rough cut). Complete song - MJ singing lead on the whole song. An edited version that is 2 minutes shorter than this version was leaked on YT.

All The Truth You Need (3:10) (Never before heard. Never leaked). Lead Vocals by Bryan Loren with MJ Singing Background Vocals and the Chorus.

Call It Off - (4:15)- Complete- (never leaked. Never heard). Bryan Loren singing lead, MJ singing the chorus. MJ sings, “Call It Off, Call the whole thing off. I Don't Want to Marry You".

Truth On The Youth with LL Cool J (Never before heard. Never leaked). LL Cool J Full vocals/rap. LL Sings Michael's parts. A tour de force from LL doing everybody's parts in the song. No MJ vocals on this song. LL did this version as a guide for MJ to sing his verses.

Don't Believe It - 2 different versions (4:46). (Never heard. Never leaked). MJ sang the whole song while coming up with lyrics and melody ideas. Talking to Bryan as well.

Work (Janet Jackson lead vocals) (5:25) - Original Unedited Version (a shorter version leaked on YT).

To Satisfy You (Lead Vocals Byran Loren with MJ singing the chorus) - Rare, but it appears on Bryan's solo album)

And finally, there will be an additional more modern cassette in this lot of Michael Jackson singing the classic “San Francisco" acapella. It is from these same sessions. Very short (only 15 seconds) but never heard before.
 
Korgnex said:
after THRILLER...
after BAD...
after Dangerous...
after HIStory...

... I believe. There is no definite answer yet.
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It sounds like quite a few eras mixed together, rhythm track sounds like anything from between 90s and late 00s
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Streetwalker is a weird song, will always be a weird song, no matter what version lol. Another Part Of Me Truthers stay Up.
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Streetwalker has the most potential to be a top 10 on the charts out of any unreleased song. SW '88 sucks compared to SW '87, and SW '87 (the leak we have anyway) is unfinished lol. There's a mix on YouTube by mixedbylucas that adds more elements to the song, making it sound complete. I recommend listening to it
 
threepea11 said:
Streetwalker has the most potential to be a top 10 on the charts out of any unreleased song. SW '88 sucks compared to SW '87, and SW '87 (the leak we have anyway) is unfinished lol. There's a mix on YouTube by mixedbylucas that adds more elements to the song, making it sound complete. I recommend listening to it
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The song is actually great if you listen to it in FLAC in its 1987 incarnation with Dolby Shatmos Quality Headphone buds 🤓

APOM is goated in every form and it made it the Top 20. APOM Truthers stay winning
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’ve developed a stronger appreciation for “Streetwalker” recently, but I still think it loses steam by the time the third chorus rolls around and the outro is FAR too long. “Another Part of Me” was definitely the superior choice.
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The song wouldn't have been any longer than 4 plus something minutes on the Bad album.
 
Once again an interesting read.
This description of a song which is widely attributed only to Bryan Loren for it’s writing and production:

7 Digits (15:53) - Early writing session version - (Never heard. Never leaked). Song is on both sides of the cassette. Side B is a continuation of Side A. This is the first version of 7 Digits. MJ is writing the song as he sings on this, so there are several takes of the song with MJ playing with lyrical ideas. He hadn't come up with the theme of “7 Digits" yet on these early takes. But, the music is the same as his final “7 Digits" song. In between takes, MJ is talking to Bryan in the studio directing him on music ideas.
 
MsAshley said:
this made me laugh
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The instrumental is made by @kai . It's actually pretty damn good. Couple of snippets some years ago were used to make fake MJ snippets using real MJ vocals/ AI ed MJ vocals. It almost had me fooled.

Btw, has anyone noticed Michael reusing the vocal melody in Brads Loop 3.3.7 @ 1:40 "yeyeyeyeyeyeee yeyeyeyeyee", very similar to Streetwalkers background vocals "why dont you give me some time, wont you give me some time" from the intro and towards the end?



Edit. Also used in State of Shock (both version) from 3:10 and onwards.

They arent entirely the same and probably a common melody but thought I'd mention it. I later realised this isn't that worthy of a post after all, lol.
 
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Pentum said:
The instrumental is made by @kai . It's actually pretty damn good. Couple of snippets some years ago were used to make fake MJ snippets using real MJ vocals/ AI ed MJ vocals. It almost had me fooled.

Btw, has anyone noticed Michael reusing the vocal melody in Brads Loop 3.3.7 @ 1:40 "yeyeyeyeyeyeee yeyeyeyeyee", very similar to Streetwalkers background vocals "why dont you give me some time, wont you give me some time" from the intro and towards the end?



They arent entirely the same and probably a common melody but thought I'd mention it
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Yes, everyone knows Kai made Angel; that's why it's funny. Kai also commented on the video.
 
lotfi said:
Lot #8:

Michael Jackson Incredible Unreleased & Unedited Songs With Bryan Loren - Including “7 Digits", “All The Truth You Need", “Don't Believe It" & More​

All > Michael Jackson​

Return To Search Results

This lot is closed for bidding. Bidding ended on 4/26/2025
Michael Jackson Incredible Unreleased & Unedited Songs With Bryan Loren - Including “7 Digits", “All The Truth You Need", “Don't Believe It" & More.

Offered here is an incredible collection of unreleased & unedited songs from Michael Jackson's work with famed producer Bryan Loren. Presented here are two cassettes, copied straight from the original DAT tapes, given to our consignor by Bryan Loren.

Included in the cassettes are as below:

7 Digits (15:53) - Early writing session version - (Never heard. Never leaked). Song is on both sides of the cassette. Side B is a continuation of Side A. This is the first version of 7 Digits. MJ is writing the song as he sings on this, so there are several takes of the song with MJ playing with lyrical ideas. He hadn't come up with the theme of “7 Digits" yet on these early takes. But, the music is the same as his final “7 Digits" song. In between takes, MJ is talking to Bryan in the studio directing him on music ideas.

Serious Effect (rough version) (5:35) - Complete - MJ singing the whole song. This version has not been leaked. There is a leaked version online that is edited/shorter than this version and includes a rap by LL Cool J. This version has only MJ's vocals and is longer than the leaked version.

Son of Thriller (5:30) (Instrumental) - Complete - (Never released. Never heard)

She Got It (5:24) - Complete- MJ singing lead on the whole song and talking through the song to direct Bryan. (Edited/shorter version of this was leaked on YT).

Superfly Sista (original unedited rough cut) - (7:28) Complete - MJ singing lead on entire song (An edited version, that is one minute shorter than this version, appears on the Blood On The Dancefloor album).

Work That Body - (5:43) - (original unedited rough cut). Complete song - MJ singing lead on the whole song. An edited version that is 2 minutes shorter than this version was leaked on YT.

All The Truth You Need (3:10) (Never before heard. Never leaked). Lead Vocals by Bryan Loren with MJ Singing Background Vocals and the Chorus.

Call It Off - (4:15)- Complete- (never leaked. Never heard). Bryan Loren singing lead, MJ singing the chorus. MJ sings, “Call It Off, Call the whole thing off. I Don't Want to Marry You".

Truth On The Youth with LL Cool J (Never before heard. Never leaked). LL Cool J Full vocals/rap. LL Sings Michael's parts. A tour de force from LL doing everybody's parts in the song. No MJ vocals on this song. LL did this version as a guide for MJ to sing his verses.

Don't Believe It - 2 different versions (4:46). (Never heard. Never leaked). MJ sang the whole song while coming up with lyrics and melody ideas. Talking to Bryan as well.

Work (Janet Jackson lead vocals) (5:25) - Original Unedited Version (a shorter version leaked on YT).

To Satisfy You (Lead Vocals Byran Loren with MJ singing the chorus) - Rare, but it appears on Bryan's solo album)

And finally, there will be an additional more modern cassette in this lot of Michael Jackson singing the classic “San Francisco" acapella. It is from these same sessions. Very short (only 15 seconds) but never heard before.
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We really need to hear all of this before die 🤤🤤
 
You know, it's crazy to think Bill was talking about the content on Brad's laptop that would leak due to the theft as far back as 2009.
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NeoGardiV12 said:
No need to put Streetwalker down just to hype APOM, do I need to remind you that battle was over all the way back in '87 already? Leave my baby alone 😭
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Well I still like it but it is such an odd little thing.

ATP I am just picking on it to get under Threepea’s skin.

Also I just realized his name is “3 Pea”, I’ve been saying it as 3-PA in my head, like the Star Wars character.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’ve developed a stronger appreciation for “Streetwalker” recently, but I still think it loses steam by the time the third chorus rolls around and the outro is FAR too long. “Another Part of Me” was definitely the superior choice.
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Just drop Just Good Friends and add Streetwalker🤷‍♂️
Love the 1987 mix
 
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