Alaslam
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It wasn’t just trimmed down vocals were cut and it was remixedThe orchestra was added when MJ was alive and trimming a track down is not modernising.
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It wasn’t just trimmed down vocals were cut and it was remixedThe orchestra was added when MJ was alive and trimming a track down is not modernising.
Yeah, a new mix of a demo for release is not modernising lol.It wasn’t just trimmed down vocals were cut and it was remixed
Probably they had AI at their ready in 2004 also.. MJ never sang on those demos for real.. zzZ..I even think some of the ultimate collection demos were modernized and even some others that were released
That's without FM.State of Shocks original recording is in 1982 since it was originally for Thriller but later re-recorded for Victory
At 3:37, Freddie says one of the tracks would've been on Thriller if they finished in timeThat's without FM.
He says he didn't do it in time for Thriller. That's what I understand, what he actually meant indirectly.At 3:37, Freddie says one of the tracks would've been on Thriller if they finished in time
At 4:20, they mention having 15 songs selected for Victory with the tour starting that summer. This is from 1983 after the Motown 25 performance.
State of Shocks original recording is in 1982 since it was originally for Thriller but later re-recorded for Victory
Don’t think MJ did State of Shock for Thriller though as Queen fan newsletters from spring ‘83 mention the collaboration happening with Freddie…At 4:20, they mention having 15 songs selected for Victory with the tour starting that summer. This is from 1983 after the Motown 25 performance.
State of Shocks original recording is in 1982 since it was originally for Thriller but later re-recorded for Victory
Peter Freestone even mentioned in his book the Thriller gold discs on Michael’s wall (not off the wallHe says he didn't do it in time for Thriller. That's what I understand, what he actually meant indirectly.
This is what Peter Freestone said about their the meeting:
“The first that I heard about it was when Michael came to a Queen show at the Forum in Los Angeles. I remember him talking in the corner with Freddie and John. Afterwards Freddie said 'Huh! Michael says we should be doing something together because he loves what he’s heard!' Because he’d been listening to Another One Bites the Dust and loved that and the whole feel of it. So Freddie said 'He wants to meet up to record. Ah, but it’ll never happen, it’s just talk!'. Months later that was followed up with a phone call from Michael, because he had heard Freddie was in L.A. and he invited him over.”
The show at The Forum was in September 1982. The next time FM was in LA was in April/Nay 1983.
He says he didn't do it in time for Thriller. That's what I understand, what he actually meant indirectly.
This is what Peter Freestone said about their the meeting:
“The first that I heard about it was when Michael came to a Queen show at the Forum in Los Angeles. I remember him talking in the corner with Freddie and John. Afterwards Freddie said 'Huh! Michael says we should be doing something together because he loves what he’s heard!' Because he’d been listening to Another One Bites the Dust and loved that and the whole feel of it. So Freddie said 'He wants to meet up to record. Ah, but it’ll never happen, it’s just talk!'. Months later that was followed up with a phone call from Michael, because he had heard Freddie was in L.A. and he invited him over.”
The show at The Forum was in September 1982. The next time FM was in LA was in April/Nay 1983.
The sessions with Freddie were in 1983, not 1982.
Could be but Freddie said one of the tracks would’ve ended up on Thriller if he finished it. Could mean if he presented the song sooner for collaboration instead of waitingPeter Freestone even mentioned in his book the Thriller gold discs on Michael’s wall (not off the wall) so definitely after Thriller. After Feb ‘83 when he was presented them.
The odds are stacked up against that one mate. Most evidence points to 1983, not 1982.Could be but Freddie said one of the tracks would’ve ended up on Thriller if he finished it. Could mean if he presented the song sooner for collaboration instead of waiting
He is a real friend, one of the civilians, so normal as to pass unseen by the jaded eyes of celebrity watchers. He has never been to a rock concert, nor has he ever seen Michael perform. He says he hopes to, but mainly, they just hang out together. Sometimes his younger brother even tags along. Most of the time they just talk "just regular old stuff," says the friend. For Michael, it is another kind of magic.
These parts are like. Bolts of lightning in a night sky without clouds, they stand out so strongly."I always want to know what makes good performers fall to pieces," he says. "I alway try to find out. Because I just can't believe it's the same things that get them time and time again." So far, his own addictions? The stage, dancing, cartoons — have been free of toxins.
The music or the biopic...All this talk of what unreleased material will be released with the biopic. This will be an unpopular opinion, but I get the feeling the whole thing will be shelved at some point. It's what I've come to expect.
What track was that? I’m curious.Also they could've very well created a new mix from the multitracks. Most of them, when mixed direct from the source, sound as new as the day they were recorded.
Believe me, I've mixed a track that's available on Youtube in mid-tier quality. You wouldn't believe how much clarity it had while I was mixing it.
I don’t expect to see much if any unreleased content come with the biopic, tbh.All this talk of what unreleased material will be released with the biopic. This will be an unpopular opinion, but I get the feeling the whole thing will be shelved at some point. It's what I've come to expect.
Biopic, and consequently the music.The music or the biopic...
What track was that? I’m curious.
Yeah ok, just double checking. Mods, make this guy clown of the monthBiopic, and consequently the music.
I thought the same about the TII concerts. It's why I never bothered buying a ticket. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but at some point you're going to have to put on your big boy pants.Yeah ok, just double checking. Mods, make this guy clown of the month
Quit your yapping lolI thought the same about the TII concerts. It's why I never bothered buying a ticket. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but at some point you're going to have to put on your big boy pants.
I was lucky enough to hear the actual 2008 demo at a seminar with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince. The lyrics were exactly the same as the demo I remembered. There might have been one extra line, but I'm not sure anymore.Question in between: I guess the bridge for 'Hollywood Tonight'/'She's Only Fifteen' was never recorded..? Or could it be?
(I mean it's not on the released version but neither was the David Wiliams stuff)
Was it the same version as this one or was it a bit different ?I was lucky enough to hear the actual 2008 demo at a seminar with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince. The lyrics were exactly the same as the demo I remembered. There might have been one extra line, but I'm not sure anymore.
At what stage would the version on Youtube be from though?Was it the same version as this one or was it a bit different ?
I think you're referring to the Neff-U mix made in 2010Does anyone know where the "Hollywood Tonight Alternate Version" Sven Nelson posted fits into all this? The one with the rhythm guitar. I've heard people say it was considered the best version of the song that's out there but it definitely is different sounding to the version Brad Buxer says was the best.