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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Hopefully we get to hear the 1979 version of Little Susie with additional lyrics

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Which song existed first, She Got It or Superfly Sister? Or did they come into existence at the same time?

They're pretty similar, obviously both being Loren tracks.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Which song existed first, She Got It or Superfly Sister? Or did they come into existence at the same time?

They're pretty similar, obviously both being Loren tracks.
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I don’t think there’s a consensus there. Sundberg estimated that “Superfly Sister” originated in/around April 1990. No real clue on “She Got It,” though the general belief is that that one is from 1989.

Side note: “She Got It” is one of MJ’s best outtakes and is a better Prince song than anything Prince has ever done. I say what I mean and I mean what I say.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Regular post gushing about Dream Away and how it's amazing we never heard a word about it before it was randomly played at a seminar.
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Truly baffling. Stunning song.

I do feel terrible for Steve Porcaro though. He kept it close to chest for 40 years, and the FIRST time he plays it outside of the estate hemisphere it leaks, alongside the song he’s been working for decades to have released (“Chicago 1945”). Just a sad situation.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Regular post gushing about Dream Away and how it's amazing we never heard a word about it before it was randomly played at a seminar.
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And how he should not have done that maybe because it's just another incredible hidden treasure that's been spoiled.
 
I went through Brads HIStory podcast again (recommended, go check it out): https://itswmjpodcast00.podbean.com...-with-matt-forger-rob-hoffman-and-tony-black/

Here are some quotes that may be interesting:

Timestamp: 59:40
Brad Sundberg: One question is, did you ever get the feeling in a session that this song is something special and what song was it for you? What song did you work on that you just knew "this is bananas, this is gonna be around for a long time".

Tony Black: *Talks about YANA and SiM*

Rob Hoffmann: Im with you on that. My first experience with SiM was hearing it at Sony studio. The beginning of my Michael sessions was Bruce and Rene. We were working on 2Bad or what was to become 2Bad and a lot of other tracks. Tracks nobody has ever heard before, just to fuel the rumour. Theres probably 20 Rene songs out there, maybe more.



Timestamp: 01:06:20
Brad Sundberg: Was there a song on the album you felt unsure of or think didn't fit on the album? *talks about DS*

Tony Black: I don't really know if I have enough contact with all the songs to know "ok that one shouldn't have made it". I can't really think of a song. *talks about hiphop* Everything felt like it belonged. There are some songs that I can't even tell you what they were. I do remember (songs) from different other contributers that didn't made the album I think should have. There is a lot of those where I thought "thats a good one", but then they're gone. Theres a bunch of Babyface collaborations that were amazing. And they hit the bin, I don't know.
 
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thiron said:
Timestamp: 01:06:20
Brad Sundberg: Was there a song on the album you felt unsure of or think didn't fit on the album? *talks about DS*

Tony Black: I don't really know if I have enough contact with all the songs to know "ok that one shouldn't have made it". I can't really think of a song. *talks about hiphop* Everything felt like it belonged. There are some songs that I can't even tell you what they were. I do remember (songs) from different other contributers that didn't made the album I think should have. There is a lot of those where I thought "thats a good one", but then they're gone. Theres a bunch of Babyface collaborations that were amazing. And they hit the bin, I don't know.
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So there should be some good HIStory outtakes... did you hear that, Estate???
 
thiron said:
The question is: How finished are these tracks? Most likely most of them in groove/idea/rough demo state. Would be great to have an interview with Babyface and René Moore :)
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I would like to listen to "Ask Rene/DD" it should be completed especially since it started during the Dangerous session
 
AlwaysThere said:
Truly baffling. Stunning song.

I do feel terrible for Steve Porcaro though. He kept it close to chest for 40 years, and the FIRST time he plays it outside of the estate hemisphere it leaks, alongside the song he’s been working for decades to have released (“Chicago 1945”). Just a sad situation.
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Yeah, I'm also kind of bummed he won't get to finish the songs since he sold them.
 
In the case of "Dream Away" it's honestly for the better that the Estate gets full control of the song. Reminder that Steve Porcaro said he wanted to give that song away to another artist since he couldn't finish the song, so if it hadn't leaked we probably would never have gotten to hear MJ's version.
 
ChanceToDance said:
In the case of "Dream Away" it's honestly for the better that the Estate gets full control of the song. Reminder that Steve Porcaro said he wanted to give that song away to another artist since he couldn't finish the song, so if it hadn't leaked we probably would never have gotten to hear MJ's version.
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I forgot about this. This is why I’m not staunchly “MJ’s collaborators are the only people who should be allowed to work on his unreleased music” because some of them have horrible ideas or have put forward controversial work (e.g., Teddy Riley, Lenny Kravitz, Rodney Jerkins, Neff-U, the estate themselves).

Edit for clarity: I understand the reasoning behind this mentality, but I still think it has been fairly unsuccessful overall.
 
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