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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

NeoGardiV12 said:
You know what else was written prior to 11/17/1987?

CDQ TYLA (just leaked) 👀
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tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
 
Fuzball said:
tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
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I've always said that TYLA is technically a Dangerous track
 
Fuzball said:
tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
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It was a joke completely unrelated to the topic, guess It was bad timing on my part, sorry


(It is true that TYLA in CDQ leaked today though, I wanted to derail the convo towards that. Lol)
 
Fuzball said:
tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
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So, the vocals we hear were recorded in 1990? Or there were additional/more complete vocals recorded in 1990?

It sounds more like 86/87 vocals to me.
 
innuendo141 said:
The above is definitely an improvement on the version I have been listening to. The intro drums alone sound different, clearer. There is clipping on the synths still, they sound distorted but it's an improvement.

I have more different versions of Throwin' Your Life Away than I have of Smooth Criminal at this stage.
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Is it a true lossless file?
 
Fuzball said:
Is it a true lossless file?
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Could be. There seems to be a roll-off/cut. If it's really sourced from a cassette, it could have been transferred using a "shit" deck, just like Pensacola.

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Best lossless copy I've seen online is a remaster shared on sharemania.us, which was done using the untouched WAV allegedly. (LINK)
Remaster itself is pretty shit, but this is what the spectogram looks like.

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Fuzball said:
tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
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I don't think a further-developed 1990 version exists. Wikipedia and the book "Making Michael" mentions an earlier set of sessions being done in September 1988 at Ocean Way Recording, and the vocal take we have comes from a session mixdown from September 8th.
 
SeriousFX said:
I don't think a further-developed 1990 version exists. Wikipedia and the book "Making Michael" mentions an earlier set of sessions being done in September 1988 at Ocean Way Recording, and the vocal take we have comes from a session mixdown from September 8th.
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I mean who knows. Michael never organized his songs well so its harder to know for sure lmao
 
How awesome would it have been if MJ not only had an A-Team and B-Team for his songs, but also a C-Team: a group of producers that neatly finished up the rejected demo's for later usage on B-sides and anniversary albums.!

And this thread wouldn't be necessary too.. :)
 
Songs that are confirmed to be vocally completed that remain unreleased:

OTW
Boots Song*

Thriller
I Never Heard
Hot Street
Nite Line
She's Trouble
Carousel (Full)
Don't Matter To Me
Spice of Life*
Nymphette Lover*
Where is Love?*

Bad
Chicago 1945
Dreams Away*
Buffalo Bill
Neverland Landing
Make a Wish*
Victory*
Alright Now
Tomboy
What You Do To Me*
Eaten Alive*
Make or Break
Crack Kills*

Dangerous
Throwin' Your Life Away
If You Don't Love Me
She Got It
Work That Body
Serious Effect
Happy Birthday Lisa
You Were There
Truth On Youth
Joy*
Seven Digits*

HIStory
Much Too Soon
Michael McKellar

Invincible
Get Your Weight Off of Me
Hot Fun In The Summertime

Post-Invincible (2002-2009)
I Am/Was The Loser
Days in Gloucestershire
World of Candy
Come Back*
Untitled (Jae-R)*
Best of Joy*
I Have This Dream
Throwin' Your Life Away (2009)*
Dancing For Love*
Ghost of Another Lover (2009)
Cheater (2009)

* = Not 100% fully confirmed if vocally complete
 
Fuzball said:
tyla wasn't name checked during the deposition.

Interesstingly, Bill says proper vocals were recorded at Ocean Way. To my knowledge they've moved to OW in 1990. This would mean, there's an advanced lyrical version out there - all the Estate has to do is locate the multitrack tape.

The track was done at Hayvenhurst in Dec. '86.It wasn't complete enough [to present to Q].
Vocals done at Ocean Way in early Dangerous sessions.
This could be a day mix from the vocal sessions.
It's is authentic.
Click to expand...
JamesCMJJ said:
I've always said that TYLA is technically a Dangerous track
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Production was done in 1986 and vocals were done in 1988. I would also consider this a Dangerous track, not Bad.
 
threepea11 said:
Songs that are confirmed to be vocally completed that remain unreleased:

OTW
Boots Song*

Thriller
I Never Heard
Hot Street
Nite Line
She's Trouble
Carousel (Full)
Don't Matter To Me
Spice of Life*
Nymphette Lover*
Where is Love?*

Bad
Chicago 1945
Dreams Away*
Buffalo Bill
Neverland Landing
Make a Wish*
Victory*
Alright Now
Tomboy
What You Do To Me*
Eaten Alive*
Make or Break
Crack Kills*

Dangerous
Throwin' Your Life Away
If You Don't Love Me
She Got It
Work That Body
Serious Effect
Happy Birthday Lisa
You Were There
Truth On Youth
Joy*
Seven Digits*

HIStory
Much Too Soon
Michael McKellar

Invincible
Get Your Weight Off of Me
Hot Fun In The Summertime

Post-Invincible (2002-2009)
I Am/Was The Loser
Days in Gloucestershire
World of Candy
Come Back*
Untitled (Jae-R)*
Best of Joy*
I Have This Dream
Throwin' Your Life Away (2009)*
Dancing For Love*
Ghost of Another Lover (2009)
Cheater (2009)

* = Not 100% fully confirmed if vocally complete
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how do we know Cheater 2009 was recorded ? is there a source ?
 
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