The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

With full respect to MJ’s incredible collaborators, I don’t take their subjective opinions on his work beyond a grain of salt. Just because they loved it doesn’t mean I will, and vice versa. It’s nice hearing their thoughts but I personally don’t see the value in shifting my expectations for a song just because one person says it’s good or bad.
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think Damien Shields is unreliable when it comes to how advanced the vocals in demos are. He often mentioned unreleased songs that he heard as largely mumbled. For example, Damien said the verses to Rocker are pure nonsense mumbling, but from what we heard it is clear there are words there that tie together. To me TMO has shown that what sounds like incomprehensible mumbling at first often conceils actual lyrical content that somewhat makes sense. I think my takeaway from TMO is a better understanding of Michael's songwriting process. To me it sounds like he was piecing together the lyrics by the phonetic sound of the words and slowly making sense of the narrative, probably over the course of different takes and that he was more concerned with getting the right energy and sound across
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think Damien Shields is unreliable when it comes to how advanced the vocals in demos are. He often mentioned unreleased songs that he heard as largely mumbled. For example, Damien said the verses to Rocker are pure nonsense mumbling, but from what we heard it is clear there are words there that tie together. To me TMO has shown that what sounds like incomprehensible mumbling at first often conceils actual lyrical content that somewhat makes sense. I think my takeaway from TMO is a better understanding of Michael's songwriting process. To me it sounds like he was piecing together the lyrics by the phonetic sound of the words and slowly making sense of the narrative, probably over the course of different takes and that he was more concerned with getting the right energy and sound across
Rocker's description was on point. The lyrics are incomprehensible. The only difference of the version he heard was the vocal mix. The version he listened had a weird echo. I think Motif clarified this.
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think Damien Shields is unreliable when it comes to how advanced the vocals in demos are. He often mentioned unreleased songs that he heard as largely mumbled. For example, Damien said the verses to Rocker are pure nonsense mumbling, but from what we heard it is clear there are words there that tie together. To me TMO has shown that what sounds like incomprehensible mumbling at first often conceils actual lyrical content that somewhat makes sense. I think my takeaway from TMO is a better understanding of Michael's songwriting process. To me it sounds like he was piecing together the lyrics by the phonetic sound of the words and slowly making sense of the narrative, probably over the course of different takes and that he was more concerned with getting the right energy and sound across
I think Damien heard demos at the US Copyright office and not everything there is the latest versions of songs.
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think Damien Shields is unreliable when it comes to how advanced the vocals in demos are. He often mentioned unreleased songs that he heard as largely mumbled.
He's always made clear, he's talking only on specific versions he actually had heard himself, and he's even said different mixes he hasn't heard could exist.
 
Once again you have removed misinformation that was being cleared up. So I’ll say it again….

Seasonings was a joke started by Korgnex to troll people.

There is no track called Seasonings, he just started calling “Changes” it randomly.

I miss BeanoWild.

You could just write that without mentioning my name. It isn't true that I called the song that way. If you can't remember who labelled it that way, don't randomly drag my name into your desire to slander me.
So here you are again, actually spreading misinformation. You didn't clear it up, you're making it up right there.

@ mods: Either remove both postings (the quoted one and mine) or leave it that way and warn that user for still continuing with this bullshit.
 
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