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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

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Alaslam said:
I want the loving you session and more thriller era stuff
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I don't think the multitracks for the original version are even out there, but rumor says that the Xscape album multitracks (remixes only) are out there.

As for stuff from Thriller and prior, only a scant few are in the hands of collectors. The bulk of stuff collectors have are from 1983-85 onwards.
 
I'm suprised at how it seems like more folk want Boy No more than Rocker. Maybe it's because it might be more vocally complete? It's just that there are so few MJ demos with the gritty and rough vocals, and Rocker is one of them. The reconstructed versions and AI edited ones don't do the song justice I think
 
Pentum said:
I'm suprised at how it seems like more folk want Boy No more than Rocker. Maybe it's because it might be more vocally complete? It's just that there are so few MJ demos with the gritty and rough vocals, and Rocker is one of them. The reconstructed versions and AI edited ones don't do the song justice I think
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I think it’s because it makes more sense for Boy No to leak because more people have it, unlike Rocker of which only the snippets we have are out there.

Edit: and because Boy No sounds great🤩
 
I'm not too crazy about "Boy No" leaking anymore since the song sounds kind of weak in the verses. "Dark Lady" is truly my MVP lol.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’m loitering in an MJ Discord group, and you won’t believe how many people are complaining that “Boy No” and “Rocker” weren’t leaked. We just got several tracks we’ve been dying to hear for years, and the focus is locked on what we DIDN’T get. Sad.
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Y'know what, this is valid, and I'll defend it. The stuff we got doesn't have enough vocals to vibe to it often besides Neveland Landing and World of Candy. Boy No and Rocker are the closest we'll get to songs with completed vocals, it's fair they want it. Korgnex shared some good stuff but nothing like those two. I don't think anyone will be that satisfied with these leaks until we get those two. Not that we should because its not our birth right but if collectors are going to be passing it around like it's a game of telephone, they might as well throw it out there, especially since we've been tempted by all these lyrics and snippets.
 
The MJJ Library said:
Y'know what, this is valid, and I'll defend it. The stuff we got doesn't have enough vocals to vibe to it often besides Neveland Landing and World of Candy. Boy No and Rocker are the closest we'll get to songs with completed vocals, it's fair they want it. Korgnex shared some good stuff but nothing like those two. I don't think anyone will be that satisfied with these leaks until we get those two. Not that we should because its not our birth right but if collectors are going to be passing it around like it's a game of telephone, they might as well throw it out there, especially since we've been tempted by all these lyrics and snippets.
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Well, if we recall, LA Reid said there were at least 24 tracks on which MJ sang from top to bottom. That number likely includes Xscape

23 Tracks
LNFSG
Was Loving Me
Loving You
APWNN
DYKWYCA
Xscape
Hot Fun in the Summertime (Duet)
World of Candy
Neverland Landing
Hot Street
Slapstick
She's Trouble
What A Lovely Way To Go
Who Do You Know
Dreams Away
Chicago 1945
Get Your Weight Off Of Me
People of the World
Beautiful Girl
I Have This Dream
I'm Dreaming
I'm Still The King
RedOne Song

5 Tracks
In Question:
Rocker (Mumbling)
Boy No (Mumbling)
Dark Lady (Scratch Vocals)
Remember What I Told You
In The Back

12 Tracks
Previously released:
Hold my Hand
Ways You Love Me
Best of Joy
Another Day
Behind the Mask
Much too Soon
Don't Matter To Me (2018)
All in Your Name
I'm So Blue
Al Capone
Abortion Papers
Free

Others:
Changes
Brad Loop 3.3.7
 
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Frankyboy5 said:
I am grateful with what we have but am very disappointed Changes and Innocent Man aren't completed tracks as the snippets made them out to be. I prefer listening to more polished music, not demos or instrumentals.
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That's the way Michael worked when it came to music but it cancelled itself out. Michael would flesh out a full chorus and if he liked it, he'd continue work on it but at the same time, if he had a new idea, he'd abandon the previous song but it doesn't mean everything is like that. A lot of songs from late 70's and early 80's are pretty much complete. I don't get why his estate hasn't did something with them
 
Billyjeanplxiv said:
Well, if we recall, LA Reid said there were at least 24 tracks on which MJ sang from top to bottom. That number likely includes Xscape

20 Tracks
LNFSG
Was Loving Me
Loving You
APWNN
DYKWYCA
Xscape
Hot Fun in the Summertime (Duet)
World of Candy
Neverland Landing
Hot Street
Slapstick
She's Trouble
What A Lovely Way To Go
Who Do You Know
Dreams Away
Chicago 1945
Get Your Weight Off Of Me
People of the World
Beautiful Girl
I Have This Dream

5 Tracks
In Question:
Rocker (Mumbling)
Boy No (Mumbling)
Dark Lady (Scratch Vocals)
Remember What I Told You
In The Back

12 Tracks
Previously released:
Hold my Hand
Ways You Love Me
Best of Joy
Another Day
Behind the Mask
Much too Soon
Don't Matter To Me (2018)
All in Your Name
I'm So Blue
Al Capone
Abortion Papers
Free

Others:
Changes
Brad Loop 3.3.7
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I would think Victory (w/Freddie Mercury) and Buffalo Bill have completed vocals too right?
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
More than likely doesn’t realize Thriller 40 is a thing, which is believable
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I know about Thriller 40, and I listened to "The Toy" a grand total of one time, and I remember it being exactly the same as Best of Joy (vocally, lyrically, etc.) So I assumed MJ had just taken the original vocal take and changed one word, which really wouldn't be surprising knowing how he operated in his later years.
 
kreen said:
I know about Thriller 40, and I listened to "The Toy" a grand total of one time, and I remember it being exactly the same as Best of Joy (vocally, lyrically, etc.) So I assumed MJ had just taken the original vocal take and changed one word, which really wouldn't be surprising knowing how he operated in his later years.
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Well respectfully, your memory is failing you. You need to relisten expeditiously.
 
kreen said:
I know about Thriller 40, and I listened to "The Toy" a grand total of one time, and I remember it being exactly the same as Best of Joy (vocally, lyrically, etc.) So I assumed MJ had just taken the original vocal take and changed one word, which really wouldn't be surprising knowing how he operated in his later years.
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Different vocal takes. The closest we got to that would be Can't Get Out of the Rain
 
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BlackAnon said:
That's the way Michael worked when it came to music but it cancelled itself out. Michael would flesh out a full chorus and if he liked it, he'd continue work on it but at the same time, if he had a new idea, he'd abandon the previous song but it doesn't mean everything is like that. A lot of songs from late 70's and early 80's are pretty much complete. I don't get why his estate hasn't did something with them
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Largely because they're pre-Thriller + they're wrapped up in rights issues between Quincy Jones' estate, James Whitney, and whatever other writers he worked with + they may be vocally complete but it's likely they aren't instrumentally complete (which isn't much of an excuse given what came out on Thriller 40 but eh).
 
SeriousFX said:
Largely because they're pre-Thriller + they're wrapped up in rights issues between Quincy Jones' estate, James Whitney, and whatever other writers he worked with + they may be vocally complete but it's likely they aren't instrumentally complete (which isn't much of an excuse given what came out on Thriller 40 but eh).
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A lot of pre-Thriller material could be used but like you said, rights issues. These are things that should've been sorted out within the first year or 2 of his passing.
 
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