The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[ChanceToDance]

Also Water is a marvelous 30 seconds of music. Every time I drink H20 I think of it.

Lmao I got that same brainrot, every time I hear someone say the word "water" that song starts playing in my head

And also, it's crazy how "Water" complements "Stranger In Moscow" so well, whenever I listen to SIM I go back to the snippets we have afterwards. The song feels like an epilogue. I wish at least the full seminar recording would leak already, it's kind of jarring to listen to snippets that are all varying in quality. It can't be worth jackshit at this point lol

 

[Derek1984]

Or make a trip to the good ol’ Copyright office

Not everything is there. To my knowledge, I don't think Buffalo Bill would be there. Also, whatever is there, may not represent the most completed state a song was left in.

 

[MsAshley]

Tomboy's instrumental sure is there.

 

[Bonvestinel]

this is very random, but does anyone know anything about the 2008 Reproduction of I Have This Dream by K-R.O.K? I know it has a tribute artist but maybe Michael hired him to rework it or something. I would be curious to hear it official or not, since he is a pretty good producer.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

I pity the Pathetic Fool, who would actually try to make an IG story with that chopped up LQ Rocker hodgepodge.

I might be that pathetic fool

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

With MJ’s work ethic in mind, hooks and chorus demos aplenty left, how is it that

I’m So Blue

Is the exact opposite to his usual methodology, pretty robust verses with only da da da’s as a hook?

Theres gotta be more surprises left in the vault. Theres gotta be

 

[AlwaysThere]

With MJ’s work ethic in mind, hooks and chorus demos aplenty left, how is it that

I’m So Blue

Is the exact opposite to his usual methodology, pretty robust verses with only da da da’s as a hook?

Theres gotta be more surprises left in the vault. Theres gotta be

I always took it that the hook was meant to be like a wordless sigh, similar to the chorus of “Earth Song.” Seems weird that MJ would layer background vocals for unfinished lines, right?

 

[Fuzball]

^^ that's intentional, isn't it?

they told him to sing a song, but all he knows is "da da da da da da da"

 

[innuendo141]

I always took it that the hook was meant to be like a wordless sigh, similar to the chorus of “Earth Song.” Seems weird that MJ would layer background vocals for unfinished lines, right?

100% this is what the chorus is.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

I always took it that the hook was meant to be like a wordless sigh, similar to the chorus of “Earth Song.” Seems weird that MJ would layer background vocals for unfinished lines, right?

Ohh wait. That’s actually so clever.

Maybe the Bad era just was the peak of his songwriting then, and once it didn’t eclipse Thriller, he stopped trusting in his hit making abilities. At least for a bit.

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

To be fair, the 90's werent very kind to MJ. The 80's had some tabloid junk, but I imagine after the allegations, his motivation took a hit. As did it when he became a father and took years to release Invincible. Then 03-05....The Thriller-Dangerous was probably his most prolifc song creation time.

I'm partial to later hits like HMH, DIG, The Loser, Hollywood, BoJ. But that's my preference. Of course, had MJ been able to finish these tracks, you know he would just knock it out.

 

[MsAshley]

Ohh wait. That’s actually so clever.

Maybe the Bad era just was the peak of his songwriting then, and once it didn’t eclipse Thriller, he stopped trusting in his hit making abilities. At least for a bit.

A lot of stuff from Bad isn't just from the Bad sessions though. It's similar with Dangerous; he was reworking Dangerous era stuff up 'til he died. Liberian Girl and Dirty Diana are from the early 80s, but we associate them with the late 80s because of the release date. You can say they got reworked and remixed to be properly completed by the general sessions we associate with Bad, so they're more mid-80s. The period of work for Dangerous is then significantly less, with most production starting in 89 besides Dangerous evolving from Streetwalker. Even History borrows more from the late 80s and Dangerous sessions than Dangerous borrows outside its own sessions.

I will be very brave and stunning here: Dangerous is the most prolific, and therefore best era.