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The Michael Jackson Chart Watch

Netherlands top-100 albums ( february 7 :

number ones ( 18)( new-entry)
THRILLER ( 45), 355 weeks

top-40 vinyls : number ones ( 3)( new-entry).
 
beltrano said:
Ireland top 100 albums :

number ones ( 12)( new-entry), 528 weeks.
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This is absolutely bizarre. I have no idea what's going on with Number Ones/The Essential in Ireland. Last week, The Essential was #18. This week it is not on the top 100 at, but Number Ones is now #12 after having been missing from the charts since The Essential started climbing.

Streaming has lead to such chart manipulation it's unreal.
 
I posted this on 16th December 2025

innuendo141 said:
What's really puzzling to me is that the Estate (or Spotify themselves, maybe?) have changed how MJ's music is streamed (here at least).

Since at least 2009, it's been Number Ones that has been the album of MJ's that has hovered around the top 100 albums here in Ireland. All of the top songs were streamed as part of that album. All of a sudden last year, Number Ones dropped off the face of the earth and The Essential has now replaced Number Ones on the chart. So something changed whereby the streams are counted towards The Essential and no longer Number Ones.
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innuendo141 said:
This is absolutely bizarre. I have no idea what's going on with Number Ones/The Essential in Ireland. Last week, The Essential was #18. This week it is not on the top 100 at, but Number Ones is now #12 after having been missing from the charts since The Essential started climbing.

Streaming has lead to such chart manipulation it's unreal.
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number ones replace the essential !!
( sad).
 
i tunes worldwide albums chart:

number ones ( 67)+158 position
THRILLER ( 71)
the essential ( 171).
 
Spotify albums today :

THRILLER ( 3,802,673)
Bad ( 2,817,181)
off the wall ( 1,422,671)
dangerous ( 1,208,069)
History ( 1,037,130)
xscape deluxe version ( 1,031,876)
invincible ( 739,527)

all credits ( 13,179,247).
 
UK sales to date :

number ones ( 3,116,579)
the essential ( 2,129,168)

new certification single : Billie Jean

( 5x Platinum),total units ( 3,562,581)

this week in the uk number ones vinyl sales
( 2622).
 
innuendo141 said:
Streaming has lead to such chart manipulation it's unreal.
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Exactly. I've been saying it all along - streaming numbers don't count for shit. They mean absolutely nothing. They're not even a reflection of what people are listening to.

It's just really open to huge manipulation from both labels and from fans.
 
innuendo141 said:
This is absolutely bizarre. I have no idea what's going on with Number Ones/The Essential in Ireland. Last week, The Essential was #18. This week it is not on the top 100 at, but Number Ones is now #12 after having been missing from the charts since The Essential started climbing.

Streaming has lead to such chart manipulation it's unreal.
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After the release of Number Ones vinyl, they have decided to allocate the streams to Number Ones instead of Essential.

Sad, because I actually prefer The Essential.
 
UK top-100 albums:

the essential ( 93),top-100 streaming album:
number ones ( 13),the essential ( 75),

top-100 physical albums : number ones ( 8)
( new-entry),top-40 vinyl albums :
number ones ( 4)( new-entry),

top-100 digital albums : number ones ( 59),
top-50 music video : moonwalker ( 13),
live at Wembley ( 15).
 
switzerland top-100 albums :

THRILLER ( 72), sweden top-100 albums :
THRILLER ( 55)( new-entry),

italy top-100 albums : number ones ( 40)
( new-entry), THRILLER ( 89),

top-20 physical albums : number ones ( 5)
( new-entry),

australia top-50 catalogue albums :

THRILLER ( 34), thriller ( 20) in vinyl.
 
So should we report headlines like "MJ The Essential suffers biggest weekly loss in the history of the pop chart!"?

Or should we give up on reporting this nonsense altogether?
 
Nite Line said:
After the release of Number Ones vinyl, they have decided to allocate the streams to Number Ones instead of Essential.

Sad, because I actually prefer The Essential.
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But, what's the point of a music chart then if this is possible? This clearly shows that charts are manipulated by stream/digital allocation and not per stream itself.
 
us i tunes top-100 pop albums :

THRILLER ( 21)
the essential ( 38)
number ones ( 56)
Bad ( 75)

us i tunes top-100 pop songs :

Billie Jean ( 55)

us i tunes top-40 video :

remember the time ( 22).
 
innuendo141 said:
But, what's the point of a music chart then if this is possible?
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Exactly. That's what I've been saying for the last 100 pages or so. It suits Sony's agenda to have Number Ones visible to the public because that's what they're trying to sell this week.

innuendo141 said:
This clearly shows that charts are manipulated by stream/digital allocation and not per stream itself.
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Basically, as much as nobody wants to admit it, there is no such thing as an album or single any more. Both are dead, there are only songs.

But even if you wanted to pretend that we still had albums, then a stream for Billie Jean should always be counted as a stream for Thriller, and not any of the compilations.
 
Spotify albums today :

THRILLER ( 4,236,352)
Bad ( 2,938,458)
off the wall ( 1,602,685)
dangerous ( 1,260,306)
History ( 1,090,164)
xscape deluxe version ( 1,061,711)
invincible ( 741,029)

all credits ( 14,075,071).
 
Spotify albums first week of february :

THRILLER ( 25,920,006)
Bad ( 18,083,852)
off the wall ( 9,721,546)
dangerous ( 7,452,732)
xscape deluxe version ( 6,886,837)
History ( 6,527,370)
invincible ( 4,749,143)

all credits ( 86,720,513).
 
Spotify songs today with more than 100,000:

Billie Jean ( 1,601,877)
beat it ( 1,047,643)
rock with you ( 722,593)
Chicago ( 708,019)
dirty diana ( 646,113)
smooth criminal ( 635,758)
they don't care about us ( 595,542)
the way you make me feel ( 590,706)
remember the time ( 547,759)
don't stop t'ill you get enough ( 518,568)
pretty young thing ( 406,717)
THRILLER ( 364,805)
you rock my World ( 342,095)
man in the mirror ( 322,685)
Bad ( 304,799)
human nature ( 273,005)
Black or white ( 257,125)
wanna be startin' somethin' ( 219,529)
heaven can wait ( 214,442)
love never felt so good ( 193,939)
you are not alone ( 184,699)
off the wall ( 182,149)
heal the world ( 177,505)
don't matter to me ( 170,270)
liberian girl ( 165,988)
earth song ( 157,298)
you rock my World ( 108,502)
the girl is it ( 108,247).
 
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