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The Official 'Michael' Bio-Pic Thread

I have a wild theory about the old topic, the need for reshoots and split into (hopefully) two parts which everyone finds fishy. There are still doubts that they really discovered the legal problems so late, right? What do you think of this:
What if the movie people just wanted to make two parts because of seeing the potential and having enough material. But they figured it would need a much stronger audience and support to be successful than one part, and they wanted to engage the old hardcore fans who are especially critical. They also knew there would be debate about the allegations no matter what, because there are the two lawsuits/arbitration going on and media are still nasty.
Michael (the man) had this extraordinary fan support based on artistic brilliance + likeable personality + unfair treatment so fans always feel they need to give him extra support.
Now Michael (the movie) also aims at the same formula: artistic brilliance + likeable person (Jafaar) + then they claimed that a late consequence of the disgusting allegations also endangered the storytelling in the movie. This immediately hits a sore spot with the old fans, it activates our solidarity. It also serves as an excuse to covering the allegations in part two (where it makes most sense), for anyone who may have wanted the trial to be at the heart of the story.
Okay I admit it is wild, but I must say it's a trick that would work with me...
 
Scared of the Moon said:
Most biopics are just marketing. nothing else. they are there so the general public regains interest in the artist.
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And yet they're not?

Some biopics are very negative. They've made films about Idi Amin, Genghis Khan and Adolf Hitler...

Again - you have to divorce the film from the subject. You can get a good quality film about a bad guy, and vice-versa.

Scared of the Moon said:
So showing the process of michael making music and albums is a distraction? Isn't that what part of the movie should about?
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Some films are about the character/personality, and don't even mention the career of their subject.

It would be a really crappy movie if it just lists what Grammy awards Michael won, etc.

Victorious said:
it doesnt make sense to do any unreleased songs in the biopic; it's hard already to feature most of his hits
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Exactly. A biopic is NOT a promotional piece. Nobody knows Hot Street. It would be extremely out of place, jarring, and would take up runtime that could be used for a familiar hit.

Blues_Away2023 said:
Needs to be made modern with a feature artist , aka The Weeknd or a Bruno Mars for it to be a hit.
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Ugh. I would vomit.

Cheap and nasty.

Making a biopic is an extremely rare event. Do we really want them to waste the opportunity by an embarrassing attempt to sell something temporary and fleeting? You need to forget the streaming charts for one minute. Not everything is about trying to claim a number one.

etoile 37 said:
If the movie features any unreleased songs, it has to be because those songs add something to the movie, not just because they want to throw an unreleased song in there to release it as a single. The biopic will still be watched 30 years from now, so it needs to be timeless, and adding a scene just to try and get a quick hit with an unreleased song is not how you make a timeless movie.
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Exactly.

I really cannot stress this enough. A biopic is not the same as an advert. They need to resist the temptation to shamelessly plug something.

Look at how Moonwalker is looked back on these days.
 
R1chard said:
Exactly. A biopic is NOT a promotional piece. Nobody knows Hot Street. It would be extremely out of place, jarring, and would take up runtime that could be used for a familiar hit.
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That may be, but then why is Hot Street featured in the teaser? It's only going to cause frustration if millions of people look for it after watching the film and it's not even on the soundtrack.
 
R1chard said:
And yet they're not?

Some biopics are very negative. They've made films about Idi Amin, Genghis Khan and Adolf Hitler...

Again - you have to divorce the film from the subject. You can get a good quality film about a bad guy, and vice-versa.


Some films are about the character/personality, and don't even mention the career of their subject.

It would be a really crappy movie if it just lists what Grammy awards Michael won, etc.


Exactly. A biopic is NOT a promotional piece. Nobody knows Hot Street. It would be extremely out of place, jarring, and would take up runtime that could be used for a familiar hit.






Look at how Moonwalker is looked back on these days.
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thats cuz mike had a hand in the movie he was the main star and now that mj is no longer here no one has his thoughts or opinions on things
 
Where is all the footage though, mj had a camera guy following him wherever he went. That would be really interesting to see. Or maybe it was just for his private collection....

She has valid points, branca and the whole tii situation seem suspect.
But unfortunately all we have left now is a hopefully authentic, positive biopic which will set some facts straight, which is a good thing no matter how we ended up at this point.
 
Xscape2040 said:
Where is all the footage though, mj had a camera guy following him wherever he went. That would be really interesting to see. Or maybe it was just for his private collection....

She has valid points, branca and the whole tii situation seem suspect.
But unfortunately all we have left now is a hopefully authentic, positive biopic which will set some facts straight, which is a good thing no matter how we ended up at this point.
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This is what ive been asking for years & why hasnt any new footage leaked in a while
 
Things I hope the film covers or at least touches on.

- Michael's struggle with his body image/puberty in tandem with the J5's commercial decline between late 1972-1975

- Michael's time in NYC in 1977-1978 while filming the Wiz.

- The loneliness he felt in the era between Off The Wall and Thriller.
 
SimeonNC said:
Things I hope the film covers or at least touches on.

- Michael's struggle with his body image/puberty in tandem with the J5's commercial decline between late 1972-1975

- Michael's time in NYC in 1977-1978 while filming the Wiz.

- The loneliness he felt in the era between Off The Wall and Thriller.
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Based on the trailers, leaks and info I have, yes (at least mentioned - the movie does have a time skip from the early to late 70s but from what I gather it is mentioned or shown with later scenes), yes and probably
 
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mjfp said:
Based on the trailers, leaks and info I have, yes (at least mentioned - the movie does have a time skip from the early to late 70s but from what I gather it is mentioned or shown with later scenes), yes and probably
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Smh seems like we'll never get the jacksons era
 
Liked the new tv spot , was that Bad era MJ in the studio? Sounded good!! and then Thriller era MJ in the studio at the end? Now that’s rock n roll.

Dare I say the voice was a little over the place , it seemed a bit different each time. The most authentic part was from beat it . From the top

Can I also add. I weirdly seen Fabio Jackson and Randy Jackson Jr in Jaafar’a face during the bad era recording session 😂
 
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