Hot topic Thriller 40th Anniversary

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Everything will be answered in the upcoming biopic about MJ, where he talks about John Branca's life.
ok, let's get back to Thriller 40 now. Biopic is another subject. Feel free to open separate thread to talk about it.
 

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thriller 40's coming to a wrap imo, all songs have been accounted for on yt with new uploads/remasters apart from billie jean, which leads me to believe it'll be the send off of the thriller 40 celebration.
 

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Shame if Billie Jean wasn't scanned in 4K, yes it was shot on 16mm film... But - 16mm was also the same format to which The Beatles: Get Back was shot on, just saying... We'll see if it comes in any way.
 

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Shame if Billie Jean wasn't scanned in 4K, yes it was shot on 16mm film... But - 16mm was also the same format to which The Beatles: Get Back was shot on, just saying... We'll see if it comes in any way.
it will be in 4k. "i'm still standing" was on 16mm, meaning billie jean will have the same quality as it's remaster.

 

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it will be in 4k. "i'm still standing" was on 16mm, meaning billie jean will have the same quality as it's remaster.

I dunno. This doesn’t look half as good as the MJ remasters, which I’ll assume is because it’s not truly in 4K. I’d rather deal with 2K.
 

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So the American music awards released a statement addressing the cancellation of Chris Brown's performance...

“Live shows change all the time, it’s the nature of this business; unfortunately, this element of the AMAs didn’t come together as we couldn’t align on the performance, to no fault of Chris Brown,”

WTAF? I honestly can't even find an opinion.
 

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If I recall correctly, Korgnex posted that Sony was pushing for Thriller 40 but the estate had no interest, and this was kinda thrown together to appease them. Apparently the two new songs were among those considered for MICHAEL and XSCAPE, hence why they already had the clearance to show up on disc 2.

If this is accurate, it’s astonishing that Sony has more of a passion for supporting MJ than his own estate. This on top of them not wanting remixes on Bad 25 speaks volumes.
This came out lots longer than I intended, hear with me;

I've given Sony under Tommy Mottola grief for the way they promoted Invincible and how it was at odds with MJ. But the fact remains, they did want to promote it. I found it an inferior way to do so, but the intention was there. MJ going to perform wasn't a bad idea either, but it's a bigger fault of the industry at large that an artist does have to travel the whole globe. You can't expect MJ to have to do that just to stay relevant. The actual solution to that didn't really come to pass until the Pandemic a couple years ago. Virtual Tours probably, that's what MJ would've wanted to do, I think.

*Holograms*, Livestream shows, any sorts of things like that. A random daydream like that, imagine.

Regardless, my point is, Sony is not the true bad guy. I disliked what happened but they're not true villains. Not when Murray, AEG, the Casios, Chandler's, etc, are all right there. And MJ unfortunately allowed them all into his life. Sad but true fact of life, watch your associates. And regulate yourself.
 

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it’s a shame because michael had such a great history with the amas - especially the founder dick clark, whom he had known since he was a child.

they created a special award for him in 1984 called ‘the artist of merit’. he was only 25 years old when he received it. he won a total of 7 awards during that same ceremony. this predates his historic 8 Grammy win. dick Clark wouldn’t approve of what’s happening now if he was here today
 

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This came out lots longer than I intended, hear with me;

I've given Sony under Tommy Mottola grief for the way they promoted Invincible and how it was at odds with MJ. But the fact remains, they did want to promote it. I found it an inferior way to do so, but the intention was there. MJ going to perform wasn't a bad idea either, but it's a bigger fault of the industry at large that an artist does have to travel the whole globe. You can't expect MJ to have to do that just to stay relevant. The actual solution to that didn't really come to pass until the Pandemic a couple years ago. Virtual Tours probably, that's what MJ would've wanted to do, I think.

*Holograms*, Livestream shows, any sorts of things like that. A random daydream like that, imagine.

Regardless, my point is, Sony is not the true bad guy. I disliked what happened but they're not true villains. Not when Murray, AEG, the Casios, Chandler's, etc, are all right there. And MJ unfortunately allowed them all into his life. Sad but true fact of life, watch your associates. And regulate yourself.

The Sony thing was just them not wanting to spend any more money promoting Invincible after funding it for years and MJ not bothering his ass to get it finished, delay after delay, hotel rooms and studios being booked for no reason because MJ didn't bother turning up. Then on top of that he told them he was leaving the label, why would they spend the amounts required to promote an artist who intended to leave and go to another label straight after?
 

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The Sony thing was just them not wanting to spend any more money promoting Invincible after funding it for years and MJ not bothering his ass to get it finished, delay after delay, hotel rooms and studios being booked for no reason because MJ didn't bother turning up. Then on top of that he told them he was leaving the label, why would they spend the amounts required to promote an artist who intended to leave and go to another label straight after?
Did they not make the money back? Have they ever made anything less than a profit with MJ involved? That's my first question.

Is MJ the only artist to delay music?

And is MJ the first artist to change labels? Did he deserve to have his entire career hijacked by Sony?

I want answers to those questions first before I consider changing my mind strongly on Sony.
 

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Created my own Thriller 40 playlist to give the release a little more life. What we ended up with was a bit underwhelming IMO. You'll notice I added State Of Shock & There Must Be More To Life Than This in the playlist. These are both versions featuring the late great Freddie Mercury. Hot Street is a cleaned up version someone posted on YouTube that sounds fantastic. Niteline also cleaned up in CD quality (same version that leaked years ago so nothing different except it sounds good) :cool:
 
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