I don't even know where to start with all this...
Me neither tbh. I don't want to drag this on too long to btw. But I am not a troll, I just gave my honest opinion on the Bad25 documentary and almost got cancelled for it..
Look, I have much respect for Spike Lee, I grew up on his movies. But I do have an issue with him if I feel his political motivation shines through in a documentary about a historical figure, in this case about MJ. Who knows what he has left out more
Oh please note that my written English is not always the best (and sometimes sucks)
Literally how? Calling you out directly? Criticizing a multitude of poor fan takes, and just generally bad behavior wherever they lie?
I thought you mentioned me and said my opinion wasn't an 'opinion' but 'brainwashing'. If I am wrong I apologize
Ohhh that's cool, Nigeria?
I have no involvement in politics whatsoever. Saying that black people getting recognition is political is divisive and strange to me.
Me neither. Getting black people their recognition is obviously awesome and so is showing his legacy amongst black people; 'twisting' the story of Michael Jackson and leaving important figures and inspirations out to achieve that goal is not; maybe I'm more sensitive to that since I studied journalism but in a way it's falsifying history
Of course they were. That is talked about all the time. There were also black equivalents to them all, and black inspirations for them all.
Talked about all the time? Most people don't get further than 'Peter Pan' when they think about MJ's influences. Large scale documentaries like Spike Lee's should be very delicate in my opinion because they do reach a lot of people. And I don't know what you mean with saying that there were also black equivalents to them. If you mean he as much black inspirations as white ones agree but we had already established that. And if you mean his white influences were in turn inspired by black artists than that also goes the other way around of course. People are always inspired by other people and people have been meeting and learning from each other since the dawn of day
You are right that music is colorless but music is also boundless. People cling too much to staples. I don't think you're even particularly knowledgeable about these people you're criticizing anyway. I'd rather see more proof.
Proof of what? I am talking about the MJ documentaries; everyone here has seen them
I don't say much of anything bad about MJ. You got a very one angled glance of MJ anyway.
What do you mean with one angled glance..? My whole critique is based on showing the complete MJ, with all his sides and influences and obsessions
You wanna hear a strong take from me, I think Bruce Swedien deserves more credit than Quincy. Not because of skin color, but because of contribution. Bruce was integral to MJs entire adult career and QJ is pretty overblown at times. And yet all of them together helped make it what it is. I'm not just speaking "woke", I simply say the truth is what matters most.
Fair enough! Please continue to do so! I love Quincy Jones's work but I do think he is overrated at times too, especially if you hear some of the demo's MJ created; those songs would be awesome anyway. BUT Quincy did make the music so much richer with his experience as a conductor and his love for Bossasanova etc. Plus Michael's voice somehow matched his music so damn well (much more than Q's other artists imo)
And Lionel Richie had nothing to do with MJ throughout his life. JT especially, if anything was a huge blight on the Jackson family. I still enjoy his music though. But literally he has nothing over any other contemporary successor artist.
Could be, but I think if you would ask someone on the street at the time of this documentary who was most inspired by MJ it would be JT
And no, they really don't: Jon B, Robin Thicke, JT, Beastie Boys, Eminem, Bee Gees
Not hearing any issues for they in particular.
Be real, all of these artists got shitloads of bash and even if they are respected by black artists themselves they aren't listened to by the black audience