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I’m pumped to hear “She’s Trouble” in high quality. I’ve always had a soft spot for that one, and felt it was more deserving of the praise that “Hot Street” (which, to me, is just okay) got.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’m pumped to hear “She’s Trouble” in high quality. I’ve always had a soft spot for that one, and felt it was more deserving of the praise that “Hot Street” (which, to me, is just okay) got.
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The low quality leaked demo of the completed version is 100 times better than the high quality unfinished take that has been leaked. Cannot wait to hear it!
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’m pumped to hear “She’s Trouble” in high quality. I’ve always had a soft spot for that one, and felt it was more deserving of the praise that “Hot Street” (which, to me, is just okay) got.
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Yeah it's always annoyed me that we've only had a lq version of the more complete demo. Hopefully it's on there.
 
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Still no word on the Making Of Thriller getting a DVD/Blu Ray/Streaming service release? A missed oppurtiunity with Thriller 25 and a missed oppurtunity now. You'd think releasing that would be a no brainer.
 
dethorro said:
The track is titled Behind The Mask (Mike’s mix (Demo)).

When will it be available, though?
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As far as we know when the album releases.

Also are you saying that's the actual track name on the album?
 
How many versions of “for all time” exist? It is it only the one on T25 or did other versions leak as well?
 
filmandmusic said:
How many versions of “for all time” exist? It is it only the one on T25 or did other versions leak as well?
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A version leaked that was pretty much the same, the only difference being that the vocals aren't very audible during a small part of the song.
 
When they Mike's demo, could that mean a home demo? Similar to the Billie Jean demo on Thriller 2001 edition or the Beat It demo on This Is It?

It'd be interesting to hear Mike's creative process if that's the case
 
Behind The Mask (Mike's Mix)
Behind The Mask (Mike's Demo)
Behind The Mask (Mike's Mix - Demo)

The Estate:
Behind The Mask [(Mike's Mix // (Demo))]
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
When they Mike's demo, could that mean a home demo? Similar to the Billie Jean demo on Thriller 2001 edition or the Beat It demo on This Is It?

It'd be interesting to hear Mike's creative process if that's the case
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I doubt it. I’m not sure there is a home demo of Behind The Mask because, in this case, Michael didn’t compose the music.

The more instrumentally complex demos (e.g. The Girl Is Mine demo, Beat It demo (the one @AlwaysThere was talking about, not the home demo) and the other two Billie Jean demos that we know of) were all recorded at professional studios.

I believe this may be the case with Behind The Mask, unless there is a version where Michael is improvising a melody on top of the original instrumental by Yellow Magic Orchestra.
 
dethorro said:
I doubt it. I’m not sure there is a home demo of Behind The Mask because, in this case, Michael didn’t compose the music.

The more instrumentally complex demos (e.g. The Girl Is Mine demo, Beat It demo (the one @AlwaysThere was talking about, not the home demo) and the other two Billie Jean demos that we know of) were all recorded at professional studios.

I believe this may be the case with Behind The Mask, unless there is a version where Michael is improvising a melody on top of the original instrumental by Yellow Magic Orchestra.
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The facebook post mentions that he played it at his home studio for Greg and Quincy. Sounds like it's his demo to me.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
The facebook post mentions that he played it at his home studio for Greg and Quincy. Sounds like it's his demo to me.
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Yes, the meeting took place at his home studio but it‘s very unlikely that the demos played at that meeting were home demos. Michael mentions during his 93’ deposition that the The Girl Is Mine demo was recorded “at a studio in the Valley” before the meeting with Q, Rod and Greg took place.

The demos presented would surely have been the latest and most sonically exciting versions, not some early rough ideas (e.g. the Billie Jean 1981 home demo or the Beat It home demo). Those were done for the musicians who were to record the demos, to get an idea of what the song should sound like.

By the way, some of Rod Temperton’s songs were also played at this meeting, including Starlight and possibly Baby Be Mine. Beat It was apparently not even written at that time, though, so they got that wrong in the post. It was one of the last songs to be written and recorded, in mid-/late 1982.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
The facebook post mentions that he played it at his home studio for Greg and Quincy. Sounds like it's his demo to me.
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That's what has thrown me a little bit too, the fact that it's the one Mike played to them. That would make me think it's similar to the Beat It one we have already. Maybe their wording has just confused things.

I was under the impression, Mike played the original demos of WBBS, Billie Jean and (possibly TGIM) to Greg and Quincy when they began the sessions for Thriller and later MJ brought his original demo of Beat It to Quincy.

The reason I mention this, is because if Mike played them the demo's in original form then surely Behind The Mask would be in the same state of Michael figuring the song out
 
Prince Of Pop said:
^^this. When For All Time originally leaked online, it was good. However when it appeared on Thriller25, cleaned up, in great quality and there was more vocals on it, it was even better then before. One can only hope the same happens to any of the other outtakes, such as Hot Street for example. This is by far my favorite outtake not officially released yet.
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I have an hq version of hot street
 
Tbh I always take stuff The Estate say with a grain of salt when it comes to MJ's history and facts about his songs as they don't take much care with stuff like that and it seems to be up to whoever is writing the post to say whatever they want at the time.
 
dethorro said:
Yes, the meeting took place at his home studio but it‘s very unlikely that the demos played at that meeting were home demos. Michael mentions during his 93’ deposition that the The Girl Is Mine demo was recorded “at a studio in the Valley” before the meeting with Q, Rod and Greg took place.

The demos presented would surely have been the latest and most sonically exciting versions, not some early rough ideas (e.g. the Billie Jean 1981 home demo or the Beat It home demo). Those were done for the musicians who were to record the demos, to get an idea of what the song should sound like.

By the way, some of Rod Temperton’s songs were also played at this meeting, including Starlight and possibly Baby Be Mine. Beat It was apparently not even written at that time, though, so they got that wrong in the post. It was one of the last songs to be written and recorded, in mid-/late 1982.
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That makes sense, will still be very cool to hear MJ's version even if it's not a rough demo.
 
dethorro said:
By the way, some of Rod Temperton’s songs were also played at this meeting, including Starlight and possibly Baby Be Mine. Beat It was apparently not even written at that time, though, so they got that wrong in the post. It was one of the last songs to be written and recorded, in mid-/late 1982.
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See, I always thought the same thing. But apparently in Sonic Fantasy, Greg Phillinganes says that he first heard “Billie Jean,” “Beat It,” and “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’” on the same day, which was the listening party mentioned in the estate’s post. I know that goes against everything that’s always been said, but it’s certainly an interesting tidbit.
 
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