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Thriller 40th Anniversary

AlwaysThere said:
“Alternate take” and “alternate version” are different in my perspective. Like, the demo of “She’s Out of My Life” is wonderful because the entire atmosphere is different. But if somebody made a new mix of “Human Nature” with the same instrumentation and a different vocal take, I couldn’t be bothered. If it doesn’t offer a real change, I don’t see the appeal.

That’s just me though. I’m not a Beatles fan to begin with, but I can’t imagine blowing hundreds on anything but demos and/or unheard material. It feels like a cheap way to say, “Buy this album for the nineteenth time! You have an opportunity to hear Paul cough before starting to sing, and Ringo accidentally comes in a half measure too early in the chorus!”
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The Beatles re releases also come with totally remixed versions of the original album, sounding much better then they originally did (imo). So it's not really what you're describing at all tbh.
 
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NeoGardiV8 said:
Smooth Criminal is the perfect example of this, there's like, at least 5 entirely different mixes, and all of them have their own unique flavor to them due to the fact that they sometimes have different instruments, different speeds, different arrangements in general and the only thing they share between each other is the vocal take, even though the vocals are the same, they all feel special and unique due to all these little differences...
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I don't wanna derail the T40 too much but cheers for this. I'll have to chase this stuff down.
 
Maybe if we had a proper HIStory 25 we could have waited out on a big Thriller 50... Since we're a bit dry when it comes to new material, I think the fan community is too in need of something.
 
NeoGardiV8 said:
What do you think about the Human Nature 7" Version? the one with the alternate bridge.
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It exists?
SmoothGangsta said:
The Beatles re releases also come with totally remixed versions of the original album, sounding much better than they originally did (imo). So it's not really what you're describing at all tbh.
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Sure, that’s a valid and enjoyable addition. But unless that album is sold on its own (which it might be, for all I know), I don’t think I’d drop money for a single disc of material I’d be interested in.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
The Beatles re releases also come with totally remixed versions of the original album, sounding much better then they originally did (imo). So it's not really what you're describing at all tbh.
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Some diehard Beatles fans would kill you for saying Giles Martin's remixes sound better than George Martin's originals.
 
MJbr2 said:
Some diehard Beatles fans would kill you for saying Giles Martin's remixes sound better than George Martin's originals.
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I'm not a fan of the original Beatles stereo mixes at all, also not a fan of mono unless I absolutely need to listen to it. Giles also incorporates the differences between the mono and stereo versions into his mixes often and I think that's pretty cool.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I'm not a fan of the original Beatles stereo mixes at all, also not a fan of mono unless I absolutely need to listen to it. Giles also incorporates the differences between the mono and stereo versions into his mixes often and I think that's pretty cool.
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Most of the diehard fans dislike his EQ work saying that it is too bass-heavy, often losing subtleties of the original mixes done by his father.
It is really hard to find the proper original stereo mixes, but when you do find some, they do sound great!
 
MJbr2 said:
Most of the diehard fans dislike his EQ work saying that it is too bass-heavy, often losing subtleties of the original mixes done by his father.
It is really hard to find the proper original stereo mixes, but when you do find some, they do sound great!
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I think I just have a lot of small issues with them that are products of the time that they are made that Giles corrects in his mixes, and I do think I prefer the sound as well.

I am aware that things I see as things to dislike are things that a lot of people enjoy about those mixes though so I guess it's just what you like.
 
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SmoothGangsta said:
I think I just have a lot of small issues with them that are products of the time that they are made that Giles corrects in his mixes, and I do think I prefer the sound as well.

I am aware that things I see as things to dislike are things that a lot of people enjoy about those mixes though so I guess it's just what you like.
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Indeed. It is all very subjective based on a lot of perspectives and perceptions.
Giles has tech on his side and he's been doing justice to these recordings, that's a fact.
 
Hi ! I do not usually post but I have a question. I have seen that there will be a new SACD of Thriller. Will it sound better than the 2001 SACD or not ? Is mobile fidelity lab known for making great SACD ? Sorry if it's a dumb question for you but I want to be sure 😅
 
Totomoto694 said:
Hi ! I do not usually post but I have a question. I have seen that there will be a new SACD of Thriller. Will it sound better than the 2001 SACD or not ? Is mobile fidelity lab known for making great SACD ? Sorry if it's a dumb question for you but I want to be sure 😅
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To make it easy: yes. Mobile Fidelity is known for making great audiophile pressings.
 
Victor said:
Regarding the Thriller short films in 4K.
Do you guys think we will get them in REAL 4K or just some AI upscale bullsh*t? :ROFLMAO:
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I'd say for thriller and beat it, definitely a rescan of the film.

For Billie Jean, considering mj didn't rescan the 16mm film for Moonwalker, there's a chance it could be lost, meaning ai is the only way to restore it.
 
Beano Wild said:
I'd say for thriller and beat it, definitely a rescan of the film.

For Billie Jean, considering mj didn't rescan the 16mm film for Moonwalker, there's a chance it could be lost, meaning ai is the only way to restore it.
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Eh, i doubt it's truly truly lost, if anything it's probably in some random's collector's vault, like most important MJ stuff :p
 
Is there a chance that we might get Thriller 40 in Dolby Atmos?
It is baffling that it hasn't happened yet.
 
Katy Bird said:
Is there a chance that we might get Thriller 40 in Dolby Atmos?
It is baffling that it hasn't happened yet.
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I think I read somewhere that the original multitrack recording of Baby Be Mine has been lost, dunno if that's real.
 
I am looking at the track list for the deluxe edition bonus tracks and I am disappointed.

What is the point of including pointless crappy remixes from Thriller 25?
What is there no The Girl is Mine solo version?
What would be The Lady In My Life extended version?
Why is Thriller demo aka Starlight not on it?
Is there no Baby Be Mine demo?
 
www.thriller40.com

Music Magazine Japan Celebrates ‘Thriller’ - Thriller 40

Music Magazine in Japan will honor Michael's "Thriller" album in their November issue. They'll study all nine songs, the music video and other works from Michael.
www.thriller40.com www.thriller40.com

No idea if it'll be bilingual. I assume not. Presumably it'll just be in Japanese but this is brilliant. Love it.
 
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travis3000 said:
In the USA there's no question Thriller will beat it.
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
It might Billie Jean it too.
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Jonh nadie on Twitter: Michael Jackson viendo el #mediotiempo de The Weeknd. https://t.co/lAHGTMDeGd / Twitter


On a serious note, aside from these MJ-related websites and social media accounts, I haven't seen any ads or marketing for Thriller 40 recently. Meanwhile, the new Queen album re-release is already getting a bunch of publicity thanks to "Face It Alone".

Also, this is kind of off-topic, but I would argue that Queen is more popular now than when Freddie was alive. In the late 80's (especially in America) their albums didn't sell as well as their earlier material, not unlike MJ's sales in the late 90's til 2009.

As morbid as it sounds, when both Freddie and MJ died, they both became modern myths: like, it's impossible for younger people to understand how talented both men were since they can only hear stories from older generations or watch decades-old footage.
 
Zack44 said:
On a serious note, aside from these MJ-related websites and social media accounts, I haven't seen any ads or marketing for Thriller 40 recently.
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I agree. I think that's why I lost my mind just now seeing the info re that Japanese magazine that's going to celebrate T40 in November. Just recently I've been browsing the UK music mags to see if they have any upcoming T40 stuff planned or any adverts or ... well, just anything, really. Haven't seen anything. That's not conclusive, of course. I could easily have missed something. But I would have expected to see *something* by now.

Zack44 said:
Meanwhile, the new Queen album re-release is already getting a bunch of publicity thanks to "Face It Alone".
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Exactly. I noticed that and I wasn't even looking for it.

Zack44 said:
As morbid as it sounds, when both Freddie and MJ died, they both became modern myths: like, it's impossible for younger people to understand how talented both men were since they can only hear stories from older generations or watch decades-old footage.
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Agreed. I hate to say it but I really think you had to be there. I know that's not helpful to younger fans and thank god we have YT and the web and all the other resources that we didn't have back in the day. All of that is fabulous. But I really don't think that it's possible to fully convey Michael's awesomeness back then or the scale of his popularity or the intensity of it even in spite of the negative MSM nonsense. I think the younger fans can absolutely get how talented Michael was since we still have all of his work. But understanding it in the context of the times, understanding the impact he had, that's the impossible bit, imo. There will always be something missing.

That's just my take on it. Who knows? I could be wrong. I don't know what it's like to come across Michael's music in this era. What does that feel like? I don't know and won't ever be able to appreciate what that's like. In the end, all we can do is enjoy and appreciate our own experiences, we all have a different take on this. We all think Michael is awesome, that's what matters.
 
I think Freddies unreleasend song will be number 1 in many countries and their coming album-release is now at the top of the bestseller lists. The biopic in 2018 brought many new fans to Queen and a large increase in airpaly (at least in Germany).

The release of Thriller 40 is only known to fans at this point. You have to expect to do promotion this week or next week. Maybe their promotion is related to the days for Halloween. Let's hope for the best.
 
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