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I hope I'm not breaking rules here, but I just logged into facebook and I feel sick to the stomach at what I read.

Please DON'T turn this into a trash Karen and the follower fans thread. Please be respectful.

I hope this is ok to post. They posted it on an open page - for 3,000 people, and if they want the truth out there, this is a way.

The first post is Karen Faye's status and the rest are following comments from her and a follower fan.

Karen Faye Kissingertell me your thoughts: All of Michael's possessions were gathered and cataloged several months before his death.

Karen Faye Kissinger remember...DR. TOHME emptied out Neverland and was preparing to auction off his possessions


SAM FF You and I talked about that at lunch. Took it all away from him and displayed it all just a few blocks away from his house. When we told Michael about it he got angry, he had been told it wouldn't happen and he believed it.

Karen Faye Kissinger it just really bothers me....that this inventory was done prior to his death.


Karen Faye Kissinger

his things are on exhibit....


Karen Faye Kissinger I believe AEG is producing the exhibit





Karen Faye Kissinger
Michael did fire Tohme (17th June) ...but he was in the hospital when Michael died. Can anyone make sense of that?


SAM FF
I remember Thome Thome coming to Michael's house at night after he had been to the doctor's and made him sign papers outside in the dark....

SAM FF
Brian Oxman has my testimony of everything I witnessed, or most of it.

SAM FF
That's right, at night, in the dark, outside, when he had been to the doctor's...shocked?!

SAM FF
We saw so much....you have no idea!

SAM FF
In the end Julien's auction made millions without even needing to auction off his things that still now one has their hands on...And Michael's will (the one they're trying to make us believe is the latest will) doesn't state any ownership over any of his propoerties and physical belongings....INTRESTING!



Michael didn't stop anything guys. It was TT who apparently threatened Julien's that if items hadn't been withdrawn, some blood would have spread all over !!! Then, probably his personal belongings were used as a means of convincing Michael to sign the deal of these damned concerts, because it's really really strange that RP had asked Michael to sing live at least 100 times in 7 years and Michael always said no, BUT as soon as he signed, his belonging were withdrawn from the auction but remained in the hands of Capital Colony, linked with AEG, thru Thome. If some news is true, Thome is linked with Phillips by a family link ( he married with RP's daugther)... Do you still think Murray acted alone?

SAM FF
This is only the tip of the iceberg, people.
There are tons of people that need to be dragged to jail. The doctors, his security, his management, AEG, SONY etc...They all took advantage of him and watched him suffer and ultimately killed him.

SAM FF
When we asked Michael if he had himself gone to see the exhibition a mile away he said "No, no, they took care of it! It's not happening! It was a mistake!", and we said "no Michael, we were just there, it's on!", and he put his hands over his ears and said "I don't want to hear those things! It makes me angry!".

SAM FF
Last time I saw Michael, at 1.30am on June 25th, he looked fine, I saw him dance that night...I believe something had changed thoe last two days...and I don't want to go into right now.


FACEBOOK USER:

And Tohme threatening Darren Julien with the Nation of Islam... so ironic, considering that Tohme claimed he was the one who got rid of the Nation of Islam and "cleaned" MJ's house.

FACEBOOK USER:
I emailed Julien Auctions to ask if they were going to auction off his belongings and they are! They are auctioning them off in Las Vegas summer 2010, how sad! I think his kids should keep his stuff!


There is more, but the rest is mostly just people commenting their thoughts. I picked out these comments. The status the conversation happened on is here -

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feed&story_fbid=290357187629&id=1464473223

If this shouldn't be here, someone tell me and I'll delete it. I can censor their names if you think its more appropriate? Edit: I decided to censor the 'follower fan's' full name.
 
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Yeah I just read it. It's sick.
But, out of respect of Karen (I'm not really a fan, but I like to follow what she says) she has asked that none of her post make it past her facebook.
 
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Karen is very right here. Auction was organiozed by Thome and I had a point about it on my own thread I started on this board a couple weeks ago. MJ was pushed to do these shows because of this auction which had to take a place in March 2009. It was very painful for him.
 
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Ive been reading what she has said too and most of us arent surprised that Tohme collected all of MJs belongings or that AEG are supporting the current exhibition.

A fan-movement is needed as Ive said before, the fans have come up with a lot of information that hasnt been seriously considered.
 
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This thread needs more attention.

Made me tear up about MJ not wanting to hear that his belongings were still out on display. He was being decieved.

-Wonder when the FF saw TT ask MJ to sign papers at night...before or after June 17th? Maybe before but this offers us a glimpse of the authority TT had over Michael. Someone or Something was definately backing TT...because inorder for someone like TT to have this much power and authority, it had to have been given by a higher power.
 
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MJJ7777 said:
This thread needs more attention.

Made me tear up about MJ not wanting to hear that his belongings were still out on display. He was being decieved.

-Wonder when the FF saw TT ask MJ to sign papers at night...before or after June 17th? Maybe before but this offers us a glimpse of the authority TT had over Michael. Someone or Something was definately backing TT...because inorder for someone like TT to have this much power and authority, it had to have been given by a higher power.
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That about signing papers in the dark made me like :bugeyed

I don't know if she was saying the papers were to do with the auction or whether she was just giving general information about TT and MJ, she wouldn't know what the papers were for would she.
 
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ElleBella said:
Yeah I just read it. It's sick.
But, out of respect of Karen (I'm not really a fan, but I like to follow what she says) she has asked that none of her post make it past her facebook.
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Hmm, she said that in the past, but now they want the truth out there so...? Also they are planning something I think. I don't know, I wanted people here to see this.. maybe I should delete it?
 
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Rockin. said:
Hmm, she said that in the past, but now they want the truth out there so...? Also they are planning something I think. I don't know, I wanted people here to see this.. maybe I should delete it?
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you should maybe put the info in the already established Thome, Colony Capital, etc., thread so it won't be too obvious.IDK, check with the mods to be really sure of what to do.
 
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We really should try to find more info on Thome, I think one of the reasons noone finds anything is because he uses his name several different ways. When June Gaitlin's tapes were played in the media, in that report they showed several court documents, and from what I could make out Thome was alternatively named Tohme, Tomme, Tome, and even Tomas Tome and I'm sure he could have used more combinations. So if anyone has time, try to search with different possible spellings.
 
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Joseph said that Tohme uses aliases.
 
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I don't know if it is against the rules here, but I think it is great, that you posted this info here, thank you Rockin. I've read that it was forbidden to mention Michael's declining health here, and there was a reason for it, but we all see where we are now!!! I hope it is OK to post here all the information which can help to findand expose Michael's murderers...

As for Thome...I had no doubts from the beginning, that he is the executor of the higher will here...While Murray is just a pawn.
 
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Thank You for this Rockin.....first of all let me say that It doesnt surprise me one bit that Thome made Michael sign those papers in the dark...he didnt want Michael to know what he was signing...Thome is a very sneaky and dangerous man....This is why Michael was afraid of him...he said so himself.....as far as AEG being involved with the auction along with Thome...none of this surprises me either....Murray we hope will get his ...even though he is the one who was used to do the final deed....The rest of them...we can only pray will get theirs.....they are the big fish who really killed Michael..Murray was just the sucker who did it.
 
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Darn, I posted my reply in the wrong thread. But, I want to some how find out, is there a link between Thome, Murray, Grace and the Nation of Islam. All had motives, all had an all access pass to Michael and some to his money.
 
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Tohme was able to enter MJ's camp via Neverland.

Why did MJ fail to make Neverland payments exactly,

and who was behind that?
 
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Thome Thome is the devil in disguise.

Darn, I posted my reply in the wrong thread. But, I want to some how find out, is there a link between Thome, Murray, Grace and the Nation of Islam. All had motives, all had an all access pass to Michael and some to his money.
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I don't know about the rest, but investigators have found out that the Nation of Islam has never heard of him.
 
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Thank you Rockin!

I sometimes read Karen's facebook, but I really don't have the time to browse thorugh all the comments. I really hope mods don't remove these messages, as it's precious information.

So the plot thickens... And it makes sense, imo. Mike said the he would never tour again, because it will kill him. "Ok, we'll sell all your belongings, will you tour now?"

I remember crying while browsing the auction catalog, they were literally selling this man's LIFE. Everything he had, every jacket, every award, private stuff. Everything.

Rainny, I'll try to research your question.
 
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Popescu said:
Thank you Rockin!

I sometimes read Karen's facebook, but I really don't have the time to browse thorugh all the comments. I really hope mods don't remove these messages, as it's precious information.

So the plot thickens... And it makes sense, imo. Mike said the he would never tour again, because it will kill him. "Ok, we'll sell all your belongings, will you tour now?"

I remember crying while browsing the auction catalog, they were literally selling this man's LIFE. Everything he had, every jacket, every award, private stuff. Everything.

Rainny, I'll try to research your question.
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Its ok, if the moderators want, maybe they could merge it with the other thread on him.. so its not as out there..i don't know..

Its so sad if MJ was threatened/bribed in this way.. :no:
 
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rainny said:
Tohme was able to enter MJ's camp via Neverland.

Why did MJ fail to make Neverland payments exactly,

and who was behind that?
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His own brother Randy and the folks thar Randy brought in.
Randy brought in a comapny called (shit I forgot the name of the company!) and they were gonna pay all his bills, including the ones for Neverland. They failed to pay and Neverland faced foreclosure.
MJ sued the company for not paying his bills.. he could easily prove that he had given them money to pay, but the money was GONE. However.. MJ dropped his lawsuit later.. dont know why.. think they settled maybe?

And thats how Colony came into the picture.. they helped re-finance it.
 
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Popescu said:
Thank you Rockin!

So the plot thickens... And it makes sense, imo. Mike said the he would never tour again, because it will kill him. "Ok, we'll sell all your belongings, will you tour now?"

I remember crying while browsing the auction catalog, they were literally selling this man's LIFE. Everything he had, every jacket, every award, private stuff. Everything.

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if u notice that the auction stopped only when MJ was on London, so he could not be able to escape.
 
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kasume said:
Thome Thome is the devil in disguise.



I don't know about the rest, but investigators have found out that the Nation of Islam has never heard of him.
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That's bs. Thome was at the house and heard made Michael sign papers outside, in the dark, after Michael just came back from freakin Klein, drugged by that bastard
 
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Cris123 said:
That's bs. Thome was at the house and heard made Michael sign papers outside, in the dark, after Michael just came back from freakin Klein, drugged by that bastard
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So Thome knew when to come to Michael
He knew Michael was influenced and came only THEN
If you give to a person papers to sign knowing this person is not 100% consious
then you DO NOT have pure intentions.

And at night????

Wondering about Klein also. Why on earth was he treating Michael with these medications?
 
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daisy said:
So Thome knew when to come to Michael
He knew Michael was influenced and came only THEN
If you give to a person papers to sign knowing this person is not 100% consious
then you DO NOT have pure intentions.

And at night????

Wondering about Klein also. Why on earth was he treating Michael with these medications?
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Yes at night, the fan followers saw Thome approach Michael late at night after he came home from rehearsals. They said the only light was the one from the vehicle. Michael signed it because he trusted Thome.
 
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ElleBella said:
Darn, I posted my reply in the wrong thread. But, I want to some how find out, is there a link between Thome, Murray, Grace and the Nation of Islam. All had motives, all had an all access pass to Michael and some to his money.
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Well more like the secert society i refused to get into cause many don't believe they all did what they were told.. trust me they about to be expose like i said the writing is on the wall Michael tired to warn but no body paid attention now that I am paying attention every thing is an eye opener for me. This industry is so painfully heartless this is the way Michael had to go out of his own free will cause he wouldn't listen or sell his self out. I'm emotional :sad: many of are not the only ones finding out things its hard when u have family memebers in the music industry who have to see and hear horrible things.
 
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ElleBella said:
Darn, I posted my reply in the wrong thread. But, I want to some how find out, is there a link between Thome, Murray, Grace and the Nation of Islam. All had motives, all had an all access pass to Michael and some to his money.
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Well, I've been told of a person who links Thome, Grace and Nation of Islam with Michael but I really don't want to say it. Its too hard to believe this person would want to hurt Michael.
 
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Thank you for responding.

Vici said:
His own brother Randy and the folks thar Randy brought in.
Randy brought in a comapny called (shit I forgot the name of the company!) and they were gonna pay all his bills, including the ones for Neverland. They failed to pay and Neverland faced foreclosure.
MJ sued the company for not paying his bills.. he could easily prove that he had given them money to pay, but the money was GONE. However.. MJ dropped his lawsuit later.. dont know why.. think they settled maybe?

And thats how Colony came into the picture.. they helped re-finance it.
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Yes. What I am wondering is who those 'folks brought by Randy' were.
 
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Please can someone tell me what Joe said about Thome & DiLeo on LKL?
 
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