Was Michael Jackson really murdered? Who did it? Let's talk about it

I'm so thankful for Tom Mesereau and just wish there would have been more people like him in Michael's life

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=t...4-99bd89ac0591
Setting the record straight.
" No that was you guys."

I think it had something to do with that ian halperin! How would he predict his death???!!!

He definitely had foreknowledge of what was about to happen and so did many others in the media.

Remember these stories and these are not Tabloids.

Why were all these stories really done?


http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/r...deficiency.html
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/12/23/mic...ung-transplant/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/22/...in4681063.shtml
http://www.thecelebritycafe.com/features/22782.html
http://ranger65.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12...on-may-be-dying
http://airamerica.com/blog/2008/dec/22/michael-jackson-dying
http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artma...=112&num=194945
 
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Once Uri Geller was around Michael Jackson seemed to change about this time. Notice when he and Shumley Botech were around Jackson notice he suddenly was always on crutches(supposedly always falling) and he even looked drugged. Geller has admitted he tried or did hypnotise Michael; what else did he do.

Don't believe me;the pictures do not lie.
http://www.whatsonmybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/40831625_geller_203.jpg

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/history/theysaid/geller.jpg


http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/dowbrigade/gellerjack.jpg


http://i43.tinypic.com/2usu9n9.jpg
 
I'm gonna wait for more facts and if The facts point to Murder,then it's Murder and There a trail of people who may be involved with Dr. Murray left holding the bag.
The facts will come through soon,When The true facts hit the fan,All Hell will break loose. At this point I don't trust anyone who has came out of the woodwork claimingf to be Michael's friend,Where were they when Michael needed their help to stop him from messing himself up.Too many "Yes People" and not enough "NO people". With The "yes People",Michael, when under their control, would give these people anything they wanted while the "NO People" Are Shut Out of his life.Maybe he would have been still alive if The No People stepped in to help their friend.
 
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This is it tou was unbelieveable succesful, Michael sold 750.000 tickets in 3 hoursm and in 2010 he would have been able to return Sony all their money and leave them with his part of their ATV catalogue. That was always Sony´s nightmare, that´s why they destroyed Michael´s career in 00´s. So they Murdered Michael. Now, when they finally killed him, they don´t have to be afraid that he´ll leave them with his part of atv catalogue.
 
I'm gonna wait for more facts and if The facts point to Murder,then it's Murder and There a trail of people who may be involved with Dr. Murray left holding the bag.
The facts will come through soon,When The true facts hit the fan,All Hell will break loose.


I would like to believe this and I hope you are right. But I think we will get the Media's version of events. Yes Murray is done and will be the fall guy. However like with the 2005 Trial Jackson won the case which(because of the 1108 law) consisted of all the previous charges. But many because of a systematic and planned psy-op to lie think Jackson was something and someone he was not. To know wh was the planners the entire entertainment and Media industry would have to unravel. They will not allow this.

This is now happening with his murder.

I feel nothing will come from the so called investigation. but to know why he was killed follow what happens to the estate. Once the Trust is broken, The kids go to Rowe; you will see what I have learned.
 
This is it tou was unbelieveable succesful, Michael sold 750.000 tickets in 3 hoursm and in 2010 he would have been able to return Sony all their money and leave them with his part of their ATV catalogue. That was always Sony´s nightmare, that´s why they destroyed Michael´s career in 00´s. So they Murdered Michael. Now, when they finally killed him, they don´t have to be afraid that he´ll leave them with his part of atv catalogue.


Thank You, I agrre with you.
 
More unexplained things in Jackson's murder, It was no accident. Nor "drug abuse" This was a planned hit.

https://www.examiner.com/x-17367-Miami-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m7d16-Michael-Jackson-death-video-missing

Michael Jackson's home security videotape missing!!!

A home security videotape, that shows the final moments in Michael Jackson's life, is among crucial evidence missing from the house where the singer died.
By now it is no secret that the Jackson family suspects foul play in the death of their beloved Michael, but the National Enquirer is claiming a massive-cover up was staged by insiders who sanitized the death scene and hid drugs.

Michael had an elaborate security system - but critical video evidence was removed before investigators obtained their first search warrant, according to authorities.

"It was a very sophisticated and high-tech surveillance and security system," revealed a police source.

"Not only were there cameras outside the house, but there were cameras inside as well - in private locations."

Insiders close to the investigation reportedly believe that Michael's death was captured on the missing tape.

"There are also gaps in some security camera footage stored on computer hard drives. Police are combing through personal computers recovered from the house."

NOTE:This part below is speculation to miss lead the reader and point the blame on Jackson "the drug addict". PROVE THIS BAG EXISTED AND THAT IT WAS JACKSON'S!

Also missing from the house was a black suitcase that belonged to Michael, that is believed to have housed a secret stash of powerful drugs, syringes, intravenous bags and an IV pole, say sources.
 
One of the only mainstream media articles I've seen really discussing why it maybe manslaughter, most seem to be reporting the search or saying nothing.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1616826/20090723/jackson_michael.jhtml

How Could Michael Jackson's Death Be Manslaughter?
Officials are investigating whether Dr. Conrad Murray or others took unnecessary risks by providing medications to singer.
By Gil Kaufman


Several members of Michael Jackson's family have stated that they believe foul play was involved in the singer's death. And on Wednesday, Los Angeles police executed a search warrant on the Houston office of Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, in connection with an investigation seeking evidence of manslaughter in Jackson's death.


So, what exactly is manslaughter, and who might be charged with it?

If the Jackson case officially turns into a manslaughter probe — no charges have been filed yet, and police and the coroner's office are still conducting investigations — prosecutors would have to provide clear evidence that his doctor, or other health-care providers, acted in a reckless or negligent manner, thereby causing the 50-year-old pop icon's death on June 25.

"Any time you do any lawful act, like the administration of drugs, if you do it in a way that's reckless or indifferent to its consequences, you can be charged with manslaughter," said Los Angeles attorney Harland Braun, who is not connected to the Jackson case, but is best known for successfully defending filmmaker John Landis in 1984 against manslaughter charges connected to three stunt-related deaths on the set of "The Twilight Zone" movie. "It's just like if you're driving recklessly down the street without regard to people's safety. It has to be recklessness more than negligence ... knowing the danger and acting despite that danger."

Unlike a murder charge, manslaughter does not require proof of an intent to kill. In Jackson's case, prosecutors would be looking at whether Murray or another health-care provider took an unnecessary risk by injecting the singer with drugs or providing him with dangerous medication.

A spokesperson for the Los Angeles Police Department said she could only confirm that Murray's office was searched on Wednesday as part of the Jackson death investigation, but not that it was part of a manslaughter probe. A spokesperson for the Los Angeles County Coroner's office did not return calls for comment at press time. Braun said officials must have had some strong evidence in order to get the warrant to search Murray's office. "You have to state that there is a particular crime being investigated and the only one that makes sense here is manslaughter, particularly if they're going to another state to get that search warrant," he said. "It's more than an ethical violation of California laws about the administering of drugs, which are only misdemeanors."

The Los Angeles Times has quoted unnamed law-enforcement sources as saying that there is "plenty of powerful evidence" that Murray administered the anesthetic Propofol to Jackson before his death, and an official from the Drug Enforcement Administration told the paper that Wednesday's warrant specifically mentioned the drug. Vials of the strong intravenously delivered surgical anesthetic, also known as Diprivan, were found in Jackson's home by police, as well as an IV stand and oxygen tanks, though a source told the Times that none was found in Murray's Houston office.

Braun said despite the increased activity — on Wednesday TMZ reported that investigators also visited the office of a former nurse who claimed Jackson begged her for Diprivan — police are likely a long way from making a case that they can send to the district attorney's office for prosecution.

"Every drug has a risk, and if Jackson knowingly participated and made a judgment that he wanted to take this anesthetic, despite the risks, that adds another layer to this case," he said. It's possible the investigation could find that Jackson died accidentally, or that there is not enough evidence to charge anyone in the case. Officials could, however, bring other charges if they can prove that someone helped Jackson obtain prescription medications under an assumed name, or knowingly over-prescribed him with medications. On Thursday (July 23), RadarOnline.com reported that according to a source close to the situation, the Jackson family plans to sue the person or persons responsible for Michael's death, whether or not any arrests are made.

Murray has been interviewed several times by authorities, and they have said he is not a suspect in the case. His lawyer has claimed that Murray did not administer or prescribe the drugs Demerol or OxyContin to Jackson, but has not commented on whether Murray gave Jackson any Propofol. The coroner's final report on the cause of Jackson's death is expected within the next week or so, and the results of that investigation could help determine what, if any, charges are filed.
 
I could careless what the Coroner, LAPD or anyone else especially the MEDIA say, like people

are now saying "they want even alude to MURDER". Michael Jackson's Death was NOT

Accidental, Manslaughter or NOTHING else BUT PREMEDITATED FIRST DEGREE MURDER ! ! !

Media and anyone else can sugarcoat this hide evidence ignore evidence Michael Jackson was

MURDERED. You want to say Prove It, I say Prove It Wasnt Murder, you're not going to get

alot of help proving it wasnt Murder from AEG and their Staff that surrounded Michael until

his Death.
 
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More unexplained things in Jackson's murder, It was no accident. Nor "drug abuse" This was a planned hit.

https://www.examiner.com/x-17367-Miami-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m7d16-Michael-Jackson-death-video-missing

Michael Jackson's home security videotape missing!!!

A home security videotape, that shows the final moments in Michael Jackson's life, is among crucial evidence missing from the house where the singer died.
By now it is no secret that the Jackson family suspects foul play in the death of their beloved Michael, but the National Enquirer is claiming a massive-cover up was staged by insiders who sanitized the death scene and hid drugs.

Michael had an elaborate security system - but critical video evidence was removed before investigators obtained their first search warrant, according to authorities.

"It was a very sophisticated and high-tech surveillance and security system," revealed a police source.

"Not only were there cameras outside the house, but there were cameras inside as well - in private locations."

Insiders close to the investigation reportedly believe that Michael's death was captured on the missing tape.

"There are also gaps in some security camera footage stored on computer hard drives. Police are combing through personal computers recovered from the house."

NOTE:This part below is speculation to miss lead the reader and point the blame on Jackson "the drug addict". PROVE THIS BAG EXISTED AND THAT IT WAS JACKSON'S!

Also missing from the house was a black suitcase that belonged to Michael, that is believed to have housed a secret stash of powerful drugs, syringes, intravenous bags and an IV pole, say sources.

I wonder if anyone other than the National Enquirer knows anything about the loss of CCTV footage and this black bag. I'm not saying I'm ruling out as I do believe that he may have been murdered as nothing adds up AT ALL.
 
I could careless what the Coroner, LAPD or anyone else especially the MEDIA say, like people

are now saying "they want even alude to MURDER". Michael Jackson's Death was NOT

Accidental, Manslaughter or NOTHING else BUT PREMEDITATED FIRST DEGREE MURDER ! ! !

Media and anyone else can sugarcoat this hide evidence ignore evidence Michael Jackson was

MURDERED. You want to say Prove It, I say Prove It Wasnt Murder, you're not going to get

alot of help proving it wasnt Murder from AEG and their Staff that surrounded Michael until

his Death.

Why do you think he was purposefully killed? He was worth more to AEG alive than dead.
 
This is it tou was unbelieveable succesful, Michael sold 750.000 tickets in 3 hoursm and in 2010 he would have been able to return Sony all their money and leave them with his part of their ATV catalogue. That was always Sony´s nightmare, that´s why they destroyed Michael´s career in 00´s. So they Murdered Michael. Now, when they finally killed him, they don´t have to be afraid that he´ll leave them with his part of atv catalogue.



I Agree. Like La Toya said "a Major Conspiracy with MANY people Involved" with AEG, The DoctorS and possibly this Judge being the smallest players, Biggest Players Sony/Sony-ATV and the Estate Holders of those in Michael's Catalogue. La Toya said Michael told her "they are trying to MURDER me for My Catalogue and PUBLISHING Rights", and now they have.
 
Seven said - 'he is worth more alive than dead' well... Not if he was ill when alive and about to cancel some concerts and AEG only had insurance for some, not all....
 
he is starting to be worth more dead to AEG than alive right now with the publicity and aeg is lovin it just like how they are selling his rehearsal tapes...STARTING @ $50 million and that was beginning bid!!..we all know one thing is for sure of all this..AEG was just in it mainly for the money...
 
God it makes me wanna throw up how there are such cruel and greedy people in this world that would sit there and do all "dirty work" and live with themselves.....now a life that didnt have to be lost is gone and 3 innocent children are suffering because of those other people greed.....whether it was accidental or purposly, the person who supply the med shouldnt have done it amongst others who knew what was goin on and did not say anything because they were being paid not to talk.....GOD BLESS YOU PRINCE,PARIS,AND BLANKET.....my prayers are with you everyday....
 
I think it is likely that Dr Murray is the fall guy or patsy, it is just too obvious to be him.

I think it is possible he found MJ dead, hence he had to get Prince as a witness to cpr on MJ, to show that he was trying to revive him.

The other option is someone planted contaminated or lethal drug in place of the ones that were being used so that they killed him. There is probably loads of info we don't know as well.

The reason I think he was murdered is that MJ said himself there was a conspiracy against him first of all trying to destroy him through allegations and the media and he believed TPTB were involved with child allegations to some degree. They tried to create a financial situation to force him to sell his catelogue. I agree with the poster that posted that he would have been able to pay sony off and be a free man and keep his part of the ATV sony catelogue after these concerts.

There is way to much suspiciousness around MJ death for it to be an accident.
 
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I think it is likely that Dr Murray is the fall guy or patsy, it is just too obvious to be him.

I think it is possible he found MJ dead, hence he had to get Prince as a witness to cpr on MJ, to show that he was trying to revive him.

The other option is someone planted contaminated or lethal drug in place of the ones that were being used so that they killed him. There is probably loads of info we don't know as well.

The reason I think he was murdered is that MJ said himself there was a conspiracy against him first of all trying to destroy him through allegations and the media and he believed TPTB were involved with child allegations to some degree. They tried to create a financial situation to force him to sell his catelogue. I agree with the poster that posted that he would have been able to pay sony off and be a free man and keep his part of the ATV sony catelogue after these concerts.

There is way to much suspiciousness around MJ death for it to be an accident.

I agree with you that Conrad is the "Fall Guy";
but I think he is an "In the know Fall Guy".
 
Seven said - 'he is worth more alive than dead' well... Not if he was ill when alive and about to cancel some concerts and AEG only had insurance for some, not all....

Sorry I don't buy that it was murder. I believe he died by accident and soemone is guilty of manslaughter, but unless I see more proof I do not think that a group of poeple conspired to kill Michael.
 
I do believe it's manslaughter by negligence. Something went wrong, and it all could've been avoided .......
 
Seven, I'm sorry, but until I see some proof, otherwise,
I believe Michael Jackson was murdered by powerful
record industry people.
 
Seven, I'm sorry, but until I see some proof, otherwise,
I believe Michael Jackson was murdered by powerful
record industry people.

I respect your opinion.

Personally though I will wait to see what facts emerge from all this.
 
I do believe it's manslaughter by negligence. Something went wrong, and it all could've been avoided .......

So what you believe then is that Michael went home at 2am from a vigorous rehearsal and found Dr Murray and wanted to get something to sleep, I am seriously asking not to be mean but to understand that this is what you believe, is this what you believe that his small frame wasnt worn and tired and as soon as his head hit the pillow he fell a sleep, are you saying you believe that Michael was such a Junkie Addict he needed this after working like this? I know the people that PreMeditated his Murder want everyone to believe this, but I just want to ask you is this what you really believe? ?? ?and things just got out of hand and he accidental was murdered by Negligence is this what you really believe? ? ?
 
Did anyone see the report on AC360 where they said Dick Gregory saw MJ and took him to the hospital MJ said he hadn't eaten because he thought they were trying to poison him? Here is the transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/23/acd.01.html

COOPER: Before the break, we told you the breaking news of what investigators found when they searched the office of Michael Jackson's doctor -- on the list, e-mails, vials of drugs, and other items.

As the case moves forward, new details, though, about Jackson's state of mine are emerging.

Randi Kaye is back with that information.

You spoke with an old friend of Michael Jackson, Dick Gregory. What did he say?

KAYE: Right. Dick Gregory is a comedian, a good friend of Michael Jackson's. They met many, many years ago -- decades ago, in fact -- when they were doing "The Wiz" together.

And he was actually with Michael Jackson during the second child molestation trial. And he told me that Jackson's parents called him and said that Michael wasn't well, can he come and help him. And a few days before the trial ended, Dick Gregory told me that he went back to Neverland with Michael Jackson, and that Jackson hugged him and said -- quote -- "Please don't leave me. They're trying to kill me."

Gregory says he asked Jackson when the last time he ate was, because he didn't look well, and that Jackson told him -- quote -- "They're trying to poison me." He asked him when he last drank water, and he said Jackson told him again -- quote -- "They're trying to kill me."

So, he wasn't drinking and he wasn't eating anything.

COOPER: So what did Gregory do?

KAYE: Well, he tried to help him as quickly as he could, as a matter of fact. Gregory says that he insisted Jackson go to the hospital. He says he was very paranoid that someone was after him.

So, he drove him to a small hospital about 10 miles or so away from Neverland without announcing that he was coming. And Gregory told me that Jackson was given fluids to hydrate him from 5:30 in the evening, Anderson, until 5:30 in the morning the next day, so, for 24 hours straight.

And he said that the doctor told him -- quote -- "Twelve more hours, and he would have been dead."

He was that dehydrated.

COOPER: So, this was right after the trial. Did -- did Gregory stay in touch with him over the last couple years?

KAYE: He did.

He said, actually, that the last time he saw him -- he didn't see him for a little while. But then he saw him again at singer James Brown's funeral. That would have been in December of 2006. And we actually have some pictures of them. That's them hugging right there at that funeral.

He told me that hugged him and that -- that Michael Jackson looked well. And I asked Gregory if he ever saw Michael Jackson do drugs. And he said, no. He said that, when they used to spend a lot of time together, years ago, Jackson wouldn't even drink soda. He said he was always particular about what he put in his body.

And he summed up his old friend this way: "To me, he's always been a little 5-year-old child in a grown man's body." That's what he said. He said, he really felt that Michael Jackson need someone to take care of him. And he didn't trust those around him, who he says were pretending to take care of him.
 
Did anyone see the report on AC360 where they said Dick Gregory saw MJ and took him to the hospital MJ said he hadn't eaten because he thought they were trying to poison him? Here is the transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/23/acd.01.html



Wow ! ! ! Michael went through alot before he was finally Murdered, these attacks probably went on for years. When I saw that Ape Looking Cheylynn lying about that Propofol I thought then by her being his Nurtrisnist they where Posining him with Drugs in his Food and Drink. God is really gonna get alot of People on this one, this one will not be Forgotton these people can get ready to Reap what they have Sown and Everyone will Witness it.
 
Wow ! ! ! Michael went through alot before he was finally Murdered, these attacks probably went on for years. When I saw that Ape Looking Cheylynn lying about that Propofol I thought then by her being his Nurtrisnist they where Posining him with Drugs in his Food and Drink. God is really gonna get alot of People on this one, this one will not be Forgotton these people can get ready to Reap what they have Sown and Everyone will Witness it.

After I heard that, I thought the same thing. :(
 
After I heard that, I thought the same thing. :(
Same here.

Damn...imagine how life would be if u just couldn't trust ANYONE anymore. That's so hard!:bugeyed He must have been really scared, if this is all true.
I'm actually hoping it's not and that it was just the doctor who didn't do his job well....*sigh*. I just hope he wasn't in pain.
 
Seven, have you ever seen this video?
In this video Michael Jackson talks about his interactions
at Sony Records:
Click and Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZgShEbWM8&feature=related

Yes, Michael Jackson was murdered.
Follow the money.
It goes straight to Sony and AEG.

I am well aware than Sony can (and has) made or broken careers depending on how much the artist plays ball or are in favour.
I worked in the industry when Prince was fighting Warner Bros and his albums were buried while Mariah's albums were promoted the hell out of. I also saw what happened to Mariah when she fell out of favour.

However it is one hell of a step from that, to murdering an artist.

If they wanted to shut someone up surely they would have started with George Michael when he sued them in the mid 90's and (if he had won) would have blown the entire recording industry open wide.

I am not saying that they definitely didn't do it, because we do not know what happened to Michael, I am just saying I find it very hard to believe they killed him in cold blood.
 
So what you believe then is that Michael went home at 2am from a vigorous rehearsal and found Dr Murray and wanted to get something to sleep, I am seriously asking not to be mean but to understand that this is what you believe, is this what you believe that his small frame wasnt worn and tired and as soon as his head hit the pillow he fell a sleep, are you saying you believe that Michael was such a Junkie Addict he needed this after working like this? I know the people that PreMeditated his Murder want everyone to believe this, but I just want to ask you is this what you really believe? ?? ?and things just got out of hand and he accidental was murdered by Negligence is this what you really believe? ? ?

Trying to sleep after hours of intense exercise is quite difficult. It's recommended you stop exercising 4-6 hours before you sleep. Thats why michael said on tour he hates it because of all the time zomes, adrenaline is up and he couldn't sleep after the shows.
 
Yes, Michael was murdered. It's so obvious. I mean, in Murray's specific circumstance I can MURDER someone and make it seem unintentional.

I can give someone propofol intending it to be the last, not bring him back up, then say, "oh, it was an accident!"

Now how hard is that???

And plus, on June 24th I remember someone twittering, "just saw Michael Jackson perform Thriller from across the street..EPIC!" MJ does not do an amazing thriller performance one day, then die the next day. that's NOT Michael Jackson.

And what about the wierd 911 call?? The guy didn't immediately say Michael Jackson's name, and the person on the other line asked for the house adress? Doesn't the adress and everything else automatically appear on the ID when 911 is dialed??? And what about the tapes gone missing?? If his bodyguards are on his side they wouldn't take the tapes and tamper with evidence that will help! Unless, someone stole the tapes to hide something they don't want anyone to see, THE TRUTH.

So either the tapes of MJ's last moments are missing because the bodyguards are STUPID IDIOTS or they were stolen by someone to hide the truth? Why else would they be missing. It's those tapes that REALLY hold the key to wether he was murdered or not. But heck, they're probably destroyed by now...who knows?

I'm with LaToya.
 
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