Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?None. I'd only buy a new HQ/HD concert release.
Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?
Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.
Everybody else is getting it (Beatles, Bowie, Clapton, Dylan, Eagles, Floyd, GNR, REM, Toto). Why not MJ? Even Sheryl Crow has beaten MJ to it!
Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?
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Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?
Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.
Everybody else is getting it (Beatles, Bowie, Clapton, Dylan, Eagles, Floyd, GNR, REM, Toto). Why not MJ? Even Sheryl Crow has beaten MJ to it!
I wonder that too, there are MJ folks who are into audio, but proportionally, not so many.
Another problem for me is that if they release something now it's going to "remastered", so unless it uses a true "audiophile" mastering, I'm not sure if I'm interested.
In example, I heard the early Thriller SACD from Japan ... the sound is literally orgasmic (and I don't think it has to do with the SACD performances because I converted the file to FLAC which can't reach SACD specs, it's the mix/mastering that is perfect). But I've heard that later Thriller SACDs actually use the 2001/2008 mastering ... which is not going in a good direction.
I also got Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks" MoFi SACD, I must say yes it's good but I wasn't has blown away by this one than by Thriller SACD (or also Thriller master reel rip is differernt but as orgasmic as the SACD)
Yeah, but people like to own stuff. Plus those aren't in multichannel. I think it's a shame: after all, MJ was a pioneer in this area (Black Or White was the world's first music video in Dolby Surround). Imagine the choir in Keep The Faith in 5.1. Or the news clips in HIStory all coming from different directions. Or the Jam sound effects coming from above. There are endless possibilities.They're already available as digital downloads
I don't think that's right. There are no "later Thriller SACDs". They made one small batch in 1999 and then stopped making them. It's out of print, that's why you can't get it...I've heard that later Thriller SACDs actually use the 2001/2008 mastering ... which is not going in a good direction.
Hmm. The picture quality for something like Billie Jean isn't actually that good. You can use as many pixels as you like and it still won't improve the picture quality. Putting a 4K logo on the box is just an exercise in wasting storage space.Because we have good mixes of the songs. Most people can appreciate these. However, the short films do not hold up the same and are also easier to notice the difference in quality.
SACD never caught on with the general public, neither has DVD audio or Blu Ray audio. Most people did not buy Quadraphonic & half speed masters versions of albums in the 1970s/1980s. Those audiophile formats usually cost more anyway and you had to have special equipment to play it on. You didn't need special stereos to play Quadraphonic/half speed, but you wouldn't get the effect with any stereo. I don't think most people care about that kind of thing, especially the Napster/MP3 generation. Today streaming is more popular than buying records/tapes/CDs. The average current artist is lucky to go gold from physical sales, other than a few exceptions like Taylor Swift. For most people it's like "why buy a CD when entire albums are on Youtube for free". :laughingv6: You don't even have to buy a download.Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.
If you are talking about trying to upscale the Vision source as 4k then you are correct. However if they actually remastered it from the film source it would look fantastic. I think Billie Jean was only filmed on 16mm so the best quality would be 1080p. If they can do it for Thriller then they could/should do it for Billie Jean, Beat it, etc.Hmm. The picture quality for something like Billie Jean isn't actually that good. You can use as many pixels as you like and it still won't improve the picture quality. Putting a 4K logo on the box is just an exercise in wasting storage space.
I can't understand the issue of not 4k'ing them like wtf!!! I just hope I don't die before they do itIf you are talking about trying to upscale the Vision source as 4k then you are correct. However if they actually remastered it from the film source it would look fantastic. I think Billie Jean was only filmed on 16mm so the best quality would be 1080p. If they can do it for Thriller then they could/should do it for Billie Jean, Beat it, etc.
Hmm. The picture quality for something like Billie Jean isn't actually that good. You can use as many pixels as you like and it still won't improve the picture quality. Putting a 4K logo on the box is just an exercise in wasting storage space.
They're on tape as well. Beat it I think was the 1st to be shot on 35mm.... might have been can you feel it too though. I'm not sure but so far as solo yeah beat it. The previous ones like Blame it on the boogie- rock with you are on tapeCorrect me if IÂ’m wrong, but werenÂ’t the three videos from Off the Wall filmed on tape? I donÂ’t know much about remastering, but I couldÂ’ve sworn I heard that those videos arenÂ’t able to be upscaled to 4K.
I realise that. Maybe it's because you couldn't get Bad and Dangerous!SACD never caught on with the general public, neither has DVD audio or Blu Ray audio. Most people did not buy Quadraphonic & half speed masters versions of albums in the 1970s/1980s.
They only cost more because of scaling. If more people buy it the price comes down. Anyway, lots of people bought (and are still buying) stuff like the Number Ones DVD. Could have had 5.1 mixes on that.Those audiophile formats usually cost more anyway and you had to have special equipment to play it on.
That's the beauty of modern technology. Graceful degradation. Multiple soundtracks are available on the same disc. If somebody doesn't have Atmos they just listen in stereo. It's fine.You didn't need special stereos to play Quadraphonic/half speed, but you wouldn't get the effect with any stereo
Exactly. If you don't offer the customer anything that's superior to their existing version (or YouTube) then why would you expect them to buy anything? If Sony expect the MJ industry to continue, they're actually gonna have to release something that's not just another greatest hits compilation.I don't think most people care about that kind of thing, especially the Napster/MP3 generation. Today streaming is more popular than buying records/tapes/CDs
Correction: the vast majority of artists never sell enough records to cover their costs. Like seriously, 80% of artists are a commercial failure. And that's just the ones that get signed. 99% of artists never set foot in a recording studio, never mind about selling their first copy.The average current artist is lucky to go gold from physical sales,
DVD is already beyond the source material. BJ looked bad on the HIStory DVD. It looked bad on the Visionary DVD. Etc.If you are talking about trying to upscale the Vision source as 4k then you are correct. However if they actually remastered it from the film source it would look fantastic. I think Billie Jean was only filmed on 16mm so the best quality would be 1080p. If they can do it for Thriller then they could/should do it for Billie Jean, Beat it, etc.
You could upscale them to 16K or 256K, but it won't make them look any better. You're just increasing the pixel count.Correct me if IÂ’m wrong, but werenÂ’t the three videos from Off the Wall filmed on tape? I donÂ’t know much about remastering, but I couldÂ’ve sworn I heard that those videos arenÂ’t able to be upscaled to 4K.
How about directors commentary?behind the scenes from the iconic musicvideos etc.
How about directors commentary?