What time did MJ called nurse Lee on Father's Day?

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Does anybody know what time did Michael call nurse Lee in Miami on Father's day 09 to complain about being all cold on one side of his body?

Because on the same day he also called The Cascio family in NJ and talked to the whole family and seems fine.

Frank is on Twitter maybe someone who tweets could ask him what time he talked to Mike and how was he feeling?

Just curious to know how fast he got ill.



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that's what I was wondering as well. I wish Oprah had asked a question about how he sounded during that phonecall, whether he seemed fine or sick. This should be investigated further.
 
Cherilyn Lee said on CNN on 30J "last Sunday night (I was in Florida).
Next day, on "American Morning" (CNN): "early afternoon".

And the Cascio, what time did they say?
 
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I don't know what time MJ called the Cascios. I just know Frank has a Twitter account and was hoping somebody here that has Twitter could ask him what time and if Michael said anything about not feeling good.

So if he called the nurse in the evening in Florida, let's say anywhere between 6 pm and midnight. It's 3 hour earlier in CA.

Who has Twitter?
 
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This was in the Oprah show thread. I think that's from twitter.

[ fdcascio Frank Cascio
We never betrayed Michael. On the contrary, we always stood by him. Michael is part of our family, we will always love him!
2 hours ago ]

Maybe you can give it a shot.

Ask what time they talk and how was he feeling? And does he think it's weird that he called the nurse in the evening saying half his body had gone cold?
 
I have been wondering this for the longest time. I remember someone (I think it was Will.i.am) said that Michael called him and wished him a Happy Father's Day, even though he wasn't a dad. This was soon after Michael passed.
 
Yes, Will I Am said MJ called him on Father's Day because he knows Will lost his father. So that meant so much to him.
 
Repost from Wendy 2004:



I'm posting this here cuz I didn't find it posted anywhere on MJJC after doing a search. If I missed it, soz about that. I'm putting here for reference as another member asked a question in the Chef thread and the answer was in this interview. Just thought it might be helpful for those looking for more info/details. Only a snippet was posted in the Chef thread as to not hijack it.

Thanks to MaudAdams on KOP board

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This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," July 6, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: So how did Michael Jackson suddenly die, at the age 50 and on the verge of an expected spectacular comeback? Michael Jackson's nurse, Cherilyn Lee, goes "On the Record."
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Nice to see you.

CHERILYN LEE, REGISTERED NURSE: It's a blessing to be here. Nice to see you, also.
VAN SUSTEREN: I appreciate you doing this. Michael Jackson -- when did you first meet him?
LEE: I met Michael Jackson in January of 2009 at his home.
VAN SUSTEREN: How did you happen to meet him?
LEE: Through a very dear friend, a very dear friend. He had a concern. His children had -- some of them were coughing, a little runny nose going on. And he's the type person, after meeting him, that's very concerned about his children and want to make sure they stay healthy.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you examine him at all? Was he -- did he need any medical care at that time, back in January '09?
LEE: On January '09, no. When I finished with the children, he said, Well, you know, what do you do? And I said, Well, you know, what's going on with you? And he said, Well, I'm just feeling a little tired. You know, I'm getting ready for this concert that we're setting up, and the traveling. And he said, I'm just a little tired because I'm getting ready to start performing -- practicing and getting myself ready for that. So he said, I'm just tired.
So I said, Well, you know, before, you know, giving you anything, let's just do some lab work, you know, see what's going on, because there's many reasons why he could be tired. And so I did -- I said, Well, I can't do it today. So he said, Well, can you come back tomorrow? And I said, Well, sure. I mean, I find it an honor to come back, you know?
And I went back the next day and did -- asked him, prior to, to fast for me and don't eat any food after 12:00 midnight and I'll see him the next morning. So I went back the next morning. I drew his blood. And has very small veins, so it took a little minute. So I drew his blood and told him that once I had the results back, then I'll set up a nutritional program for him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he complain about not being able to sleep in those first couple months?
LEE: He kind of said, you know, he wanted -- he mentioned it, but it was kind of like "by the way" kind of thing. It wasn't, like, you know, I have just chronic insomnia and I just can't sleep. It was moreso toward April. That's when he asked me what -- Well, do you mind spending the night with me? I have to show you that I can't sleep, and I don't think you really believe me. I said, I believe you. But he said, Well, can you just come? That was around April when he started bring this up. So he said, why don't you come watch me sleep? And I said, OK, I'm going to bring you some tea. And I had another homeopath, I'm going to bring some other things -- actually this was more of an herbal supplement, which is very good for sleep.
And it already mentioned, he said I can't take anything with melatonin because it just doesn't work very well for me. I said OK, I'll make sure it doesn't have that in it.
And Michael is very smart, very smart man, very articulate, as you know. But very smart, and very well read. So he knew.
And so I said well, Michael, I said, I'll come. And maybe team. I said why don't you get in bed? And he said, why don't you come check my room, and everything. And so when I arrived in this room, I said the one thing that I was concerned about was I don't see how you can sleep. There is just too much lighting.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was this artificial light, Coors is like sleeping in the daytime.
LEE: It was evening.
VAN SUSTEREN: So he had lights on in his room?
LEE: Yes. There a lot of lights on.
VAN SUSTEREN: How many lights to have on in his room? Could you read a book? Was it that led in the room?
LEE: Yes, you could read a book with all the lights.
VAN SUSTEREN: But was he opposed a trying to do it with the lights off, because a lot of people stay in bed with the lights off.
LEE: I tried. I said, let's just dim the lights. Let's cut down on some of the music, because he had classical music that was ongoing in the house itself.
VAN SUSTEREN: He played classical music?
LEE: Yes, he did. It stayed on all day.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did he ever say why he wanted the lights on when asleep?
LEE: I asked him. He said, "I have always slept with lights on."
VAN SUSTEREN: Was afraid of the dark?
LEE: I asked him that too, and he said no. This is not afraid with the lights off, but I like my lights on. And he likes to have his DVD there and watching, he loved all the work, the fascinating work by Walt Disney.
Suite had one of the tapes on, watching that, along with the other music that was going on. It was a little over stimulating, but he said, "I always sleep like this." Some people feel they can sleep with the TV on. But I said, "This is not a healthy way to sleep."
VAN SUSTEREN: What Walt Disney's stuff was he watching?
LEE: Donald Duck.
VAN SUSTEREN: Cartoons?
LEE: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is a 50-year-old man watching cartoons with the lights on, was it unusual to you?
LEE: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Not at all.
LEE: No, it wasn't. I have been dealing with all sorts of people for a long time, and he liked the work. He liked the behind the camera. That's what he found fascinating.
VAN SUSTEREN: So he was intrigued with the artistry.
LEE: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So did he said just refuse to turn the music and the lights on, he wouldn't try that?
LEE: No. He said he is done everything. He said I've done meditation, I've done this, I've done that. And he just went on the list, and he said nothing worked. He said the only thing I know will work is this IV and the Diprivan.

VAN SUSTEREN: That was the first time, in April, that he mentions it to you?
LEE: He mentions it to me. I said, well, let's just try this. And furthermore, I didn't know what it was. But he said he was an IV. I said that whatever this is that's IV is not something I know you should be doing at home.
And he said, well, it's a safe medicine. I said I don't think it's safe, we'll let me just find out. Even when I went back to his house and taken him the PDR, the physician desk reference, and said, look this is something that is very dangerous, and you don't want to do this at home.
VAN SUSTEREN: So you showed it to him?
LEE: I showed it to him. He didn't want to look at it. It's a real thick, heavy book. I was trying to put it on his lap and let him watch it, look at it. And he was busy with his DVD, looking at something else.
And I said, OK, Michael. I will read you the symptoms. You have to know. I'm telling you the truth, I need you to believe me, trust me on this.
He said, Can you find me an anesthesiologist then to put me to sleep? To put me to sleep so I can get at least eight hours of sleep.
And I said, "You do not want to do this." And at that point, I was sitting there, actually we were having a meal together, and I sat there, I just had the worst feeling, the worst feeling. The sensation came over my body, and I said don't do this, because if you want to be knocked out to go to sleep, my concern is, will you wake up?

VAN SUSTEREN: June rolls around, and did you hear from him between June and, let's say, five days before he died. Did you hear from him at all?
LEE: Father's Day.
VAN SUSTEREN: He called you, or you called him?
LEE: He called me.
VAN SUSTEREN: And what time of day did he call you?
LEE: It was in the afternoon. That's when I received a call, when I was in Florida.
VAN SUSTEREN: Does he make these calls himself, or does he somebody else make them?
LEE: Somebody makes the calls.

VAN SUSTEREN: And says, what, hold for Mike?
LEE: He might physically, himself, or someone just called and said he's going to be calling you, but is calling from a blocked number. I said that's fine in a couple of minutes, and I was put to speak with him.
This time someone else called. And another person, so he called, and I showed her my caller ID, I'm an ER myself in Florida. And so I picked up the phone and answered it.
And he said -- he said, "You know, Michael need you to come see him. We want to know if you could please come today, right away." I said I really can't. I'm in Florida. I said "What's going on?"
And he said, and I could hear Michael in the background saying, "Please, just tell her, tell her what's going on with me. Just tell her."
He said one side of my body is hot and one side of my body is cold, and what should I do?

VAN SUSTEREN: Have you ever head symptom before?
LEE: No. And I worked in emergency medicine, and so, no, I have not heard that symptom before.
VAN SUSTEREN: So you thought that was unusual.
LEE: I know it was very unusual. And I was very concerned based on the facts of what I told him about the medicine.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is there any chance that he would have given himself an IV himself?
LEE: No. He was afraid of needles. And he never comes towards his body with anything like that. There's no way.
VAN SUSTEREN: There is no way he would have gotten the Diprivan and done it himself in your mind?
LEE: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: You're certain?
LEE: I am certain about that. He didn't want anything that was going to cause him pain.
I had a cream called shae (ph) butter. And I said, come on, Michael, let me just massage your hands because they are really dry and cracked. And let me just do that. And we started that back in February.
And he was saying that it was a little painful because it was so dry. And then after that, I said, come on, let me do your feet. And he would no, you're not going to see my feet.
As far as anything dealing with pain, no, never. I can't ever see him doing anything like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: So he would let you do it as a professional, do the IV with the vitamin C?
LEE: Right.
VAN SUSTEREN: But you don't think that he would have freelanced in the sense of giving himself an IV himself or something else?

LEE: Oh, no. No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Someone else did?
LEE: Actually, he would close his eyes for me to give him the vitamin C.
VAN SUSTEREN: So you think if that is the cause of death, the IV, somebody else did it?
LEE: Yes. He would close his eyes. He didn't want to look and -- no. No.
Because he said, "please find a doctor to give me this medication so they can monitor me."
VAN SUSTEREN: Some have said that they thought he was trying to avoid doing to concerts. Did he ever give you any indication that he --
LEE: No, not at all. He was so happy the night that he received a lot of the awards for the "Thriller." It was either that night or later the night before, because a lot of things came in from Holland and all these different companies.

He was so excited. He was so excited. He was so excited about during the concert. They were faxing him over the music they wanted to hear, or emailing one, but he had copies of it in his hand. He said, "Wow, this many people want to hear the song. This many people want to hear that song."
Was really excited, really looking forward. And more so, because he said, "This is the first time my children" -- and they would sit there and just smile -- he said, "The first time I children are going to see me perform."
(END VIDEOTAPE)

PART 2 - July 7, 2009

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: What have we learned about Michael Jackson's relationship with his children? Kind of father was he? Michael Jackson's nurse, Cherilyn Lee, spoke about their relationship.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CHERILYN LEE, REGISTERED NURSE: I was really surprised when I arrived there (INAUDIBLE) to see his children. So I'm thinking, OK, I'm going to see his children, and they probably have a nanny there or something. But then he came downstairs. And I'm, like, Wow, he's actually here. So I was really shocked to see him because I'd only seen him on television.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did he look like when you saw him?
LEE: When I saw him, he looked great. He looked healthy. He was very casual, and you know, just comfortable, and the most humble human being I've ever met. And he just said -- he was so gracious and said, Thank you, thank you, thank you for coming out. Thank you for taking the time to come see my children.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did you think about the inside of the house? What...
LEE: Oh, it was absolutely gorgeous. It was just gorgeous. But it was a home that you walk in and you know this is a home of love. You know, you can walk into a home that could be beautiful, but you don't feel the love there. There was just a warm sense of love that was in that home, that permeated that home. It just was wonderful.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did you think of the three children? How were they with him?
LEE: Wonderful. Wonderful.
VAN SUSTEREN: How would you describe the different personalities?
LEE: The oldest child is very, very -- they're very intelligent, very intelligent, very knowledgeable children. He worked with them, even with their history. They were home schooled, but he -- they even knew black history, very good with black history. He would ask them questions back and forth.
The oldest child was -- loved computers and was very involved with a lot of different things. But he was just -- he did a lot of things with his dad, too (INAUDIBLE) set up the DVD for him and different things. I mean, he was loving. I mean, he would come and ask for dinner, want to have dinner like he was a chef and read off the menu, memorize it and said, Do you want to have this? And I said, Oh, no, no, no. You guys go ahead and I'll just wait until you're finished. But just his personality -- outgoing. Outgoing.
VAN SUSTEREN: You know, because it's interesting because, you know, they seemed to live the cloistered life. You know, we never got to see Michael Jackson because of who he was. He didn't seem to go out much. He didn't (INAUDIBLE) you see a lot of celebrities on the street in Los Angeles, but this family, you know, seemed to be behind that wall almost.
LEE: No. These kids are very, very talented also, extremely talented. We had so much time we spent with each other. In February -- because I know I saw him a couple of times in February because I know -- something came up about my birthday, which is February 21st. And I saw him the week after, and he and the children had purchased me a birthday gift. And they had it all wrapped up with a nice, beautiful bow on it and they were all excited and helped me to unwrap it. And when I opened it up, his son -- you know, it was a computer. And his son -- Come on over here. I'll set it up for you. Let me show you how to do this and do that. And I said, Thank you so much.
But I was so grateful for the fact that he took the time to go and do this for me. And I just kept thanking him, and I had little tears in my eyes. You know, it was so wonderful. And I gave the kids a hug and gave him a hug. He was big on hugs, too.
VAN SUSTEREN: Michael was.
LEE: Yes. Big on hugs, and matter of fact, he even mentioned to the children, you know, love and hugs are free. That's something you don't have to pay for. You guys always remember that. But he was telling the children, Look at her. She is so grateful about having this gift. And he said, More people need to be grateful. And it kind of -- I took a step back when he said that. I mean, it's, like, What type of people, you know, he's done (ph) for that wasn't? I just found him a very giving and loving person.
 
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She seems sincere. That Laperruque bodyguard seems sincere, yet he said Michael self injected and was addicted to pain meds and she said he was scared of needles and was healthy.

I'm so darn confused. Is it possible both are telling the truth? Will they both be called to testify? Him for Murray and her for Michael?
 
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Her name is Cherilyn Lee, and she joins us now live from our bureau in Los Angeles.

Cherilyn, good to talk to you.

We've been watching some of the interview that you did with our Drew Griffin overnight. And I wanted to just drill down on a particular point here.

You say that Michael Jackson suffered from persistent insomnia.

How bad was it? How desperate was he to get some help?

CHERILYN LEE, REGISTERED NURSE, CLAIMS SHE TREATED JACKSON: He was very desperate. He was so desperate.

First of all, good morning.

ROBERTS: Good morning to you.

LEE: He was so desperate that he would just cry out for something. This was like in April when he started doing this. And he said, "I really just need something that's going to help me to sleep." And when -- he was very persistent about it. And I said, well, let's try natural products. Let's try, you know -- let me assess your room that you sleep in. See if there's too much lighting, too much other stimulants in the room. But he said he's used to sleeping with lights on. He's used to doing all these things.

But when he brought up this medication, I didn't know what it was. And so I made a phone call.

ROBERTS: Right. And just to stipulate, the medication he brought up is Diprivan. It's also called Propofol. It's a very powerful sedative. It's typically used in operating rooms to get people under anesthesia.

I've had it a couple of times. Had some shoulder surgery, leg surgery. Puts you out very quickly.

So, anyway, so you didn't really know what it was. You said you made a phone call?

LEE: I made a phone call to a dear friend who was a physician and asked him, what was it. And he said that's a very serious drug. It's mainly used in ICU and operating rooms. And he was just in ICU. And so I went back, and I told Michael, because I was at his house, I said, look, this is a very serious drug. At first I wondered, did he understand what he was telling me. And he said, yes, I know exactly what it is. I've had it before. And I said, this is not a safe medication. He said, no, my doctor assured me that it's safe. There's no side effects, he said. "It is safe." I said, Michael, it isn't.

And the only way that I thought I really could convince him was to go back to my office and get the PDR, the "Physician's Desk Reference," and show him in the medical book exactly what would happen to him. Well, he didn't want to read this himself, so -- he was having a meal, a dinner.

And I said, Michael, you know, this medication -- I'm going to read some of these symptoms. And they're very serious. And the bottom line, it can cause death. And I don't even think he heard me very well even when I said it then. He just kept pointing to his hands, because he knew about it. You know, more so than I did.

ROBERTS: Yes. Yes. Well, as you said, he had used it before, and I think where you were about to go is it is administered through intravenous. So, he had actually had somebody give him this drug?

LEE: Exactly, because he knew. He said, I want it through drop. I want it IV. And because I know that the first drop when I look at it, and I see the first drop hit my vein, I'm asleep, and I sleep very well. And I just need sleep.

(CROSSTALK)

ROBERTS: Yes. I mean, they tell you to count backwards from ten when they give it to you. And typically, you get to about five and you're gone.

But I mean, I'm curious, Cherilyn, you're a nutritionist, you're a nurse, registered nurse. But you don't have prescribing authority or prescribing privileges.

Why would he ask you for Diprivan?

LEE: He asked me if I could find someone for him. He said, "I will pay them anything. If you can find me an anesthesiologist or another doctor, a nurse practitioner" -- I'm a physician assistant also --, but he asked me, he said, "can you find me a doctor? I don't care how much money they want. I don't care what it is they want. I want this drug. I want this medication."

(CROSSTALK)

He didn't say "drug." He said, "I want this medication to sleep."

ROBERTS: Right. But he did have this personal physician whom he was paying $150,000 a month. Would he not procure it for him?

LEE: You know, I didn't know anything about him. You know, three months ago, I knew nothing of him.

ROBERTS: And any idea why he didn't go back to the doctor who gave it to him before?

LEE: I have no idea. I asked him, I said, why don't you go back to -- who gave this to you? I wanted to know the name of the doctor. He wouldn't tell me. He just said, I had it a long time ago. He said, and I really need to have it now.

ROBERTS: Do you have any suspicions that he finally got a hold of it?

LEE: Well, when he called me, I had not seen him for three months. When he called me on Father's Day early afternoon and was telling me his symptoms, well through the staff there, and he said -- you know, I mean, the staff was very, very anxious and said, you know, Michael wants to know if you can come out and see him right away. He wants to know can you see him right away. He's not feeling well.

And I could hear Michael in the background, Mr. Jackson, and he was saying, "One side of my body is real cold and one side of my body is real hot. And I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's wrong." And immediately I said, you know, Michael, I'm in Florida. You need to go ahead and go to the hospital. You know, this is -- it's very serious at this point. You need to go to the hospital.

Again, I hadn't seen him in three months, but this is a call that I received on Sunday.

ROBERTS: Right.

LEE: And I had great suspicions on Sunday, because I had already read over some of the symptoms.

ROBERTS: Yes.

One of the symptoms can be tingling as well and burning, too, upon injection.

Hey, our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta is also there in the bureau with you.

I want to bring Sanjay in, because I know that he's got some questions for you as well.

Sanjay, you heard what Cherilyn had to say.

What do you think?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, one of the things about this drug that's so important, John, as you sort of mentioned, it does act very quickly. And what's also important about this drug, as soon as you stop it, it stops working.

So, this is a drug that you really have to give in a continuous sort of form. Otherwise, it doesn't do its job. It doesn't act as a sedative.

I just wonder if Cherilyn, if you -- I mean, this would have to be something you'd have to be given continuously. Did he talk about having someone monitor him while he would get the drugs or be continuously infusing it or watching over him? Did he talk about sort of how this would all work to you?

LEE: He asked me if I could find someone that would stay there and monitor him. That's why he felt he would be safe. I said, no one will do this in your home. This is not a safe drug. And I don't know if anyone -- and no one should be giving this to you in your home. It's very unsafe.

ROBERTS: And Doc...

LEE: But he felt...

ROBERTS: Doc, what kind of monitoring do you need to have when you're using a drug like Propofol, Diprivan as its known?

GUPTA: Well, what can happen is that, in lower doses, it can be used as a sedative.

By the way, a lot of people know this is Propofol. Colloquially, it's known as milk of amnesia. It is a creamy white looking substance and it caused you to fall asleep and also to be very forgetful. To forget things that are about to happen to you. In higher doses, John, as you mentioned, it can be used as an anesthetic.

So, it goes from being a merely a sedative to something that basically shuts down your breathing, and you have to put a breathing tube in in the operating room and the ICU for the drug to still be safe. So, that's what you have to be monitored for. Someone's oxygenation levels. Making sure they're still breathing, looking at their cardiac rates.

And, again, as I mentioned, you have to titrate this medication very carefully based on that monitoring. So those are sort of things that I think anyone would look for.

ROBERTS: Not to connect these two things together, but respiratory depression as you said is a side effect of this drug. We do know that Michael Jackson was not breathing when he was found by his doctor. Right?

GUPTA: That's right. And what can happen sometimes is respiratory depression can lead to cardiac arrest. You're just not getting enough oxygenated blood through the body. So, those two things can go together.

ROBERTS: Right.

And Cherilyn, we just want to ask you, you have remained in the background for a long time here.

Why have you decided to come out and speak so publicly about this now?


LEE: Well, when I heard they were doing the autopsy, you know, I didn't know for sure if this was the med. I know he asked me for it. I felt Sunday there was a problem, a serious problem, Father's day.

I advised him to go to the hospital. Like I said, I was in Florida for a few days there. I just kept -- well, I tried to reach out to him. I didn't receive a call back. But the reason I decided to step out, because there was so many indications showing that he was on drugs. And, you know, I didn't feel that was the case.


And when I heard they were going to do a second autopsy, then I felt, you know what? They probably will find the medication now. Because they didn't find it on the first.


ROBERTS: Doc, you've got anything else that you're curious about here?

GUPTA: Well, you know, the interesting thing is obviously, John, you mentioned you've had this medication before for shoulder surgery. We know Michael Jackson had several operations in the past. I wonder if he had come in contact with this medication in a hospital setting, originally.

Cherilyn, do you know when he was asking you, did he say that he had received it in his home or somewhere outside a hospital?

LEE: Well, you know, he was basically concerned again with his insomnia. He said "I remember, yes, being in a hospital, and while hospitalized they gave me this med and I was able to sleep really good. And I had the best sleep that I ever had." So, yes.

ROBERTS: Well, Cherilyn Lee, thanks very much for being with us this morning.

Doc, just one question because we are waiting the results of the autopsy...

LEE: Thank you.

ROBERTS: ... the toxicology reports as well. Will there still be evidence of Diprivan if he did manage to get a hold of it?

GUPTA: I made a lot of calls in this last night trying to figure this out. If it's not part of a routine tox screen, if you go to an emergency room, an E.R. doctor will screen you. It's not part of an E.R. tox screen. But the answer that came back to me as I talk to some of the more sophisticated labs is they can check for this. They took tissue and blood and urine at the time of the autopsy, the initial autopsy, so it should or could show up in those specimens -- John.
 
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