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Xscape General Discussion

JEMFTV said:
Looks like there won't be a third single....:bored:
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The time has passed. Ultimately, the new songs haven't stood up to me in recent months. I listened to them non stop when the album came out but I have to put these contemporised songs in the same bracket as the Thriller 25 mixes unfortunately. The only songs I don't shuffle is LNFSG. Still, I'll always have the original versions which are more to my musical taste, but I'm hoping the next album doesn't focus on sounding "contemporised" and puts more effort into making the songs sound timeless.

Just my opinion.
 
Hess said:
So sad they dropped Xscape already.. :(
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It is sad but it's the right move. The album is great and we will always have it. I do agree the contemperized tracks don't stand up well over time. The demos will however. The thing that sucks the most is how long will we have to wait for another new album? I am greatful for Xscape but I hope they do not totally rework tracks again. I would prefer they just improve on what Mj started.
 
Smooth72 said:
I do agree the contemperized tracks don't stand up well over time. The demos will however.
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That's not true. Maybe the contemporized versions will sound dated in few years but most of the original versions sound dated since they were released and definitely won't stand up well over time.
 
OnirMJ said:
That's not true. Maybe the contemporized versions will sound dated in few years but most of the original versions sound dated since they were released and definitely won't stand up well over time.
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for songs that were recorded over ten years ago, some of them, they stand pretty well in my opinion.
 
I still enjoy the contemporized versions. They are very well produced and I keep going back to them. I very much enjoyed this ride. Xscape for a posthumous album was surprisingly very successful. I wish we could have had a third single, but overall a great success. I am looking forward to the next project. Hopefully, there will be another album like Xscape in the works.
 
tricia70 said:
I still enjoy the contemporized versions. They are very well produced and I keep going back to them. I very much enjoyed this ride. Xscape for a posthumous album was surprisingly very successful. I wish we could have had a third single, but overall a great success. I am looking forward to the next project. Hopefully, there will be another album like Xscape in the works.
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I agree,I thought they were very well put together,now I did listen to that album round the clock for a very long time but have since chilled out a bit on it but there are some great tracks on there......you wanna hear my four year old daughter singing along to some of them....she says to me every time she gets in the car "put baby on daddy":)

Like others,I can't wait for some more of the same,hopefully we won't have to wait too long and if it's as well produced as Xscape then I will have no complaints.
 
innuendo141 said:
for songs that were recorded over ten years ago, some of them, they stand pretty well in my opinion.
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They don't because they were never finished. Only Xscape and A Place With No Name are nearly finished.
 
OnirMJ said:
They don't because they were never finished. Only Xscape and A Place With No Name are nearly finished.
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It is our opinion in regards to the contemperized versions they don't stand up well overtime. It is our opinion that they demos do. You are entitled to your opinion and we have our own. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree. :)
 
Smooth72 said:
It is our opinion in regards to the contemperized versions they don't stand up well overtime. It is our opinion that they demos do. You are entitled to your opinion and we have our own. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree. :)
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Absolutely. Time will tell about contemporized versions. But original versions will always be unfinished and thus dated.
 
innuendo141 said:
To you. Hence, personal taste and opinion.
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It's not matter of taste if the song is finished or not and if the instrumentation and production on some songs sound like they were made in the 80s.

It's a fact that all songs are unfinished (although APWNN & Xscape are close to being finished).

I don't see how can unfinished songs and LNFSG demo "stand up well over time". We are not talking about their quality but longevity and timelessness.
 
OnirMJ said:
It's not matter of taste if the song is finished or not and if the instrumentation and production on some songs sound like they were made in the 80s.

It's a fact that all songs are unfinished (although APWNN & Xscape are close to being finished).

I don't see how can unfinished songs and LNFSG demo "stand up well over time". We are not talking about their quality but longevity and timelessness.
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so all songs with just piano and vocals sound dated?...... Ok.

Ive seen enough threads derailed with one on one debates, and not interested in getting into one so we'll just have to agree to disagre.
 
Imho, demos likes PRICE OF FAME, ABORTION PAPERS, I'M SO BLUE, and many of the demos in Xscape are great no doubt, but do sound dated. I absolutely love Price of Fame but the instrumentation is very 80's and dated. It is amazing how songs IN OTW, THRILLER, BAD, DANGEROUS even INVINCIBLE are timeless. The only difference is that those aforementioned songs were demos and thus not finished or completed. I always wonder how great those songs could've turned out completed- classics most likely.

I am very happy at the way they gave us the demos and the contemporized versions. I loved both, but especially the new or contemporized versions. The only exceptions were Xscape and APWNN; the demos were so good I listen to them as much as the newer versions.
 
Yeah Tricia, I agree. Especially with price of fame. The possibilities and potential of that song were huge
 
innuendo141 said:
so all songs with just piano and vocals sound dated?...... Ok.
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"instrumentation and production ON SOME songs sound like they were made in the 80s."

I said on some songs. I didn't even think about LNFSG because that song basically doesn't have any production on it. It's just Michael singing over Paul Anka's piano.

But you can not say that Loving You, Do You Know Where Your Children Are, Slave To The Rhythm & Blue Gangsta don't sound dated. LY and DYKWYCA have that classic 80's sound all over them. Synths, instrumentation - all of that is stuck in the 80's. I'm not saying that is bad, just saying that they can't possibly "stand up well over time".
 
OnirMJ said:
"instrumentation and production ON SOME songs sound like they were made in the 80s."

I said on some songs. I didn't even think about LNFSG because that song basically doesn't have any production on it. It's just Michael singing over Paul Anka's piano.

But you can not say that Loving You, Do You Know Where Your Children Are, Slave To The Rhythm & Blue Gangsta don't sound dated. LY and DYKWYCA have that classic 80's sound all over them. Synths, instrumentation - all of that is stuck in the 80's. I'm not saying that is bad, just saying that they can't possibly "stand up well over time".
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You SPECIFICALLY mentioned LNFSG so you have pretty much just changed your point.

And Bad, to me, stands up better than any album from the early 2000s, so I disagree with what you've said. That's the last I'm saying on this too, I'm not interested anymore and you won't change my opinion on how the Xscape songs sound to me. I'm Glad you enjoy them.
 
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In my opinion it's very simple: The demo's are timeless in the sense that they are tracks one of the greatest artists of the 20th century worked on. No matter what the production stage or quality, those tracks will be of interest 50 years from now in that regard. A Timbaland 'contemporization' that was churned out in one day will be long forgotten about by that time (and I think much, much sooner than that).
 
SoCav said:
In my opinion it's very simple: The demo's are timeless in the sense that they are tracks one of the greatest artists of the 20th century worked on. No matter what the production stage or quality, those tracks will be of interest 50 years from now in that regard. A Timbaland 'contemporization' that was churned out in one day will be long forgotten about by that time (and I think much, much sooner than that).
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Hallelujah.
 
SoCav said:
In my opinion it's very simple: The demo's are timeless in the sense that they are tracks one of the greatest artists of the 20th century worked on. No matter what the production stage or quality, those tracks will be of interest 50 years from now in that regard. A Timbaland 'contemporization' that was churned out in one day will be long forgotten about by that time (and I think much, much sooner than that).
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Totally agree :)
 
Still hope ?!

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innuendo141 said:
You SPECIFICALLY mentioned LNFSG so you have pretty much just changed your point.

And Bad, to me, stands up better than any album from the early 2000s, so I disagree with what you've said. That's the last I'm saying on this too, I'm not interested anymore and you won't change my opinion on how the Xscape songs sound to me. I'm Glad you enjoy them.
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Yes, I said: I don't see how can unfinished songs and LNFSG demo "stand up well over time" and I stand by that.

Bad album sounds like a classic, like all other MJ FINISHED songs and albums. These songs are unfinished. Huge difference.

Only song that is slightly "dated" for today's music is Just Good Friends. All other songs can be played on the radio today and sound like a classic. Something that can't be said about LNFSG demo and original versions of other Xscape songs.
 
I get an unplugged feeling when I hear LNSFG demo.Just a piano and Michael´s voice..I love it.
I guess I´m such a dated person that I don´t understand how dated songs sounds.
 
MIST;4065019 said:
I get an unplugged feeling when I hear LNSFG demo.Just a piano and Michael´s voice..I love it.
I guess I´m such a dated person that I don´t understand how dated songs sounds.
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I get the same. Its great to hear such a stripped song, like the TMBMTLTT demo. Fancy production isnt needed for a song to be great.
 
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/best-of-2014-the-year-in-music-part-1-3379/

Best of 2014: The year in music (Part 1)
25/12/2014
Michael Jackson’s second posthumous album, Xscape, was formally announced in March and released in May. Helmed by music mogul and Epic Records producer LA Reid, we were assured that the record would make up for the disaster of 2010’s controversial Michael, and it didn’t disappoint. The collection featured eight previously unreleased tracks by the music icon, both in their original and “contemporized” forms, which were for the most part faithful to the star’s inimitable sound. The record hit Number 1 on the Official Albums Chart, spawned the Top 10 JT collab Love Never Felt So Good and this incredible performance at the 2014 Billboard Awards.
 
Paris78;4066023 said:
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/best-of-2014-the-year-in-music-part-1-3379/

Best of 2014: The year in music (Part 1)
25/12/2014
Michael Jackson’s second posthumous album, Xscape, was formally announced in March and released in May. Helmed by music mogul and Epic Records producer LA Reid, we were assured that the record would make up for the disaster of 2010’s controversial Michael, and it didn’t disappoint. The collection featured eight previously unreleased tracks by the music icon, both in their original and “contemporized” forms, which were for the most part faithful to the star’s inimitable sound. The record hit Number 1 on the Official Albums Chart, spawned the Top 10 JT collab Love Never Felt So Good and this incredible performance at the 2014 Billboard Awards.
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Nice review.
 
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Best of 2014: 10 Top Music Collaborations



6. "Love Never Felt So Good" by Michael Jackson, featuring Justin Timberlake
Timberlake fulfilled his dream of working with the King of Pop when he lent his vocals for a duet version of "Love Never Felt So Good," one of eight previously unreleased tracks from Jackson's second posthumous album Xscape. The music video (which Timberlake also appears in) pays homage to the music legend with clips of his past music videos and scenes of dancers following along to his most iconic dance moves.
 
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