You can release ONE previously unreleased track. Which one do you choose?

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No one knows how many unrelease songs are left. they said most of them are unfinished. but i'm pretty sure there got to be a few left. I think that what AaronReturn2005 meant.

even if we do get unrelease songs that unfinished we won't really know how Michael really want it. so i kind of agree AaronReturn2005. I wouldn't say they won't be good but not as good if they were done with Michael.
 

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AmitLal92;4285773 said:
Hot Fun In The Summertime. Heard the vocals are great and was in contention for the Xscape album. Could be a potential hit if released.

Fans are not really interested in a possible, posthumous release of the ‘Hot Fun In The Summertime’ song.

The reason is that Michael Jackson sings very few lines on that song, and they filled the many missing vocal parts with the vocals from other artists who lent their voices to the song (such as, Mary J. Blige, D'Angelo).

Dunk96;4286063 said:
Hands down my votes go towards "Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me" or "Man In Black". Those are two of the most elusive MJ unreleased tracks,with one barely having enough snippets to get a general idea of what the song sounds like (CGYW) and the other finally receiving a sample after 25+ years (MIB).

According to some people who heard ‘Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me’, the song sounds a lot like the first three tracks of the ‘Invincible’ album.

AlwaysThere;4286086 said:
Bryan Loren says that a finished version exists, but the chorus-only version is the only one we've heard.

It is not just Bryan Loren who said that.

Adrian Grant also heard a finished version of the ‘Men In Black’ song, too.

Adrian Grant described Michael Jackson’s vocals on that song as amazing.

Bill Bottrell also heard a finished version of the ‘Men In Black’ song, and he described it as a cool song.
 

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mj_frenzy;4286128 said:
Fans are not really interested in a possible, posthumous release of the ‘Hot Fun In The Summertime’ song.

Have you spoken to every single Michael Jackson fan? How do you come to a conclusion that "fans are not really interested in a possible, posthumous release of the 'Hot Fun In The Summertime' song?"

Please speak for yourself and not others. I, as a Michael Jackson is very much interested in the release of Hot Fun In The Summertime.
 

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I don't personally consider him a reliable source tbh.

Well, he seems pretty frustrated that he didn't get (according to him) ''enough'' credit for his work with MJ. But I do believe what he said about Man In Black because even Adrian Grant has stated that he heard the track (back in 1990) and that he was impressed by how great Michael's vocals sounded in that song. So I'm assuming that he heard a version in which you could actually hear a lead vocal.

(Btw Bryan Loren has also stated that he actually wrote the rap part in Black Or White, not Bill Bottrell. It's up to debate whether or not he was telling the truth, though.)
 

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Man in Black was a thing in MJ community since the early 90s. I’m sure Adrian spoke about it for the off the wall mag.
 

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mj_frenzy;4286128 said:
Fans are not really interested in a possible, posthumous release of the ‘Hot Fun In The Summertime’ song.

The reason is that Michael Jackson sings very few lines on that song, and they filled the many missing vocal parts with the vocals from other artists who lent their voices to the song (such as, Mary J. Blige, D'Angelo).

You know the original song ain't a solo recording, don't you?
 

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Exactly. It’s probably one of the strongest tracks left in the vault. Also Casey Rain was lucky enough to hear it and has praised the song. https://thevioletreality.com/its-tim...d-67b4b4be246e
Nite Line;4286150 said:
Have you spoken to every single Michael Jackson fan? How do you come to a conclusion that "fans are not really interested in a possible, posthumous release of the 'Hot Fun In The Summertime' song?"

Please speak for yourself and not others. I, as a Michael Jackson is very much interested in the release of Hot Fun In The Summertime.
 

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SmoothGangsta;4286153 said:
I don't personally consider him a reliable source tbh.

dethorro;4286156 said:
Well, he seems pretty frustrated that he didn't get (according to him) ''enough'' credit for his work with MJ. But I do believe what he said about Man In Black because even Adrian Grant has stated that he heard the track (back in 1990) and that he was impressed by how great Michael's vocals sounded in that song. So I'm assuming that he heard a version in which you could actually hear a lead vocal.

Bryan Loren co-produced ‘Men In Black’, so he knows what he talks about (concerning the existence of its finished version).

Joseph Vogel also confirmed that this song is a finished, unreleased song (that was recorded in 1990).

The only debatable thing about this song is the album that the song was recorded for.

Joseph Vogel states that the song was recorded for a brand new studio album (so, not for the ‘Decade’ album), whereas Chris Cadman and Craig Halstead state that the song was recorded for the ‘Decade’ album and not for a brand new studio album.

Other sources are also conflicting about the album that this song was recorded for.
 

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mj_frenzy;4286196 said:
The only debatable thing about this song is the album that the song was recorded for.

Joseph Vogel states that the song was recorded for a brand new studio album (so, not for the ‘Decade’ album), whereas Chris Cadman and Craig Halstead state that the song was recorded for the ‘Decade’ album and not for a brand new studio album.

Other sources are also conflicting about the album that this song was recorded for.

Well, it is known that the recording sessions in mid 1989 had begun with the aim to produce a few new tunes for the Decade project. At some point in 1990 the idea of releasing a greatest hits compilation got tossed away. I see no conflict between both statements.
 

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Fuzball;4286200 said:
Well, it is known that the recording sessions in mid 1989 had begun with the aim to produce a few new tunes for the Decade project. At some point in 1990 the idea of releasing a greatest hits compilation got tossed away. I see no conflict between both statements.

The sources (including Joseph Vogel) that state that the song was recorded for a brand new studio album (and not for the ‘Decade’ album) they mention that the recording of that song began in 1990 and after the cancellation of the ‘Decade’ album.

That is why various sources give conflicting statements about the album that this song was recorded for.
 

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Do anyone know where the song Men In Black was talked about? was it around the time when the first Men In black movie was release because Michael a big fan of that and I wouldn't be surprise that why he made a song for it but never was release or done for the soundtrack.
 

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I'm interested in hearing hot fun in the summertime too as well. and Michael did kind of made a greatest hit album back when history was release because sony want it him too. so what he did was put his old songs with the new songs that's why it was a two disc project.
 

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mj_frenzy;4286196 said:
The only debatable thing about this song is the album that the song was recorded for.

Joseph Vogel states that the song was recorded for a brand new studio album (so, not for the ‘Decade’ album), whereas Chris Cadman and Craig Halstead state that the song was recorded for the ‘Decade’ album and not for a brand new studio album.

Other sources are also conflicting about the album that this song was recorded for.

Adrian Grant heard the song on March 20th 1990. I highly doubt that they were already making an entire new album at that point. I think they scrapped the idea for Decade in around June 1990.
It is also possible that they kept on working on Man In Black until the end of 1990/start of 1991 when Teddy Riley came on board.

NatureCriminal7896;4286246 said:
Do anyone know where the song Men In Black was talked about? was it around the time when the first Men In black movie was release because Michael a big fan of that and I wouldn't be surprise that why he made a song for it but never was release or done for the soundtrack.

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That's real?

Yes that's a real song. Apparently you have not seen the entire 1993 deposition tapes like I did. I only saw it once though. And in the one part of the tape he gave a list songs of his songs that he recorded that still remains unreleased. That was one of the songs he has mention that he recorded. And I have always been so very curious about that song. More than I have been with the MIB song.
 

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Yes that's a real song. Apparently you have not seen the entire 1993 deposition tapes like I did. I only saw it once though. And in the one part of the tape he gave a list songs of his songs that he recorded that still remains unreleased. That was one of the songs he has mention that he recorded. And I have always been so very curious about that song. More than I have been with the MIB song.

It's just unknown (at least for us) if MJ had ever recorded it.
 

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Yes that's a real song. Apparently you have not seen the entire 1993 deposition tapes like I did. I only saw it once though. And in the one part of the tape he gave a list songs of his songs that he recorded that still remains unreleased. That was one of the songs he has mention that he recorded. And I have always been so very curious about that song. More than I have been with the MIB song.

Oh wow. I never heard of that one.
 

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Oh wow. I never heard of that one.

The full list of then-unreleased songs addressed during the 1993 deposition (with relevant quotes) are as follows:

  1. "She's Not a Girl" ("It was recorded but never released. It's a demo I did, I think at the Encino house.")
  2. "You Ain't Gonna Change Nothin'"
  3. "Lucy is in Love with Linus"
  4. "Who is the Girl With Her Hair Down"
  5. "Lonely Man"
  6. "Going to Rio" ("[I wrote it] before Thriller, before Off the Wall")
  7. "Tomboy"
  8. "Buffalo Bill"
  9. "Al Capone"
  10. "Michael McKellar"
  11. "Thank You for Life" ("[It] was written... boy, way before Off the Wall... '73, '74, something like that.")
  12. "Much Too Soon"
  13. "What a Lonely Way to Go" ("[It was written] before Off the Wall.")
  14. "Who Do You Know"
  15. "You Are a Liar"
  16. "Cry"
  17. "Make a Wish"
  18. "Crack Kills"
  19. "Free"
  20. "Fly Away"
  21. "The Children's Hour"
  22. "A Baby Smiles"
  23. "Sister Sue"
  24. "Little Susie"
  25. "Tragedy of a Cheerleader"
  26. "Get Around"
  27. "Little Girls"
  28. "In the Valley"
  29. "Red Eye"
  30. "I Forgive You"
  31. "Why Shy"
  32. "I Have This Love of Me"
  33. "Llama Lola"
  34. "California Grass"
  35. "Kentucky" ("I wrote that one... [in] '70-something. I don't remember exactly.")
  36. "Someone Put Your Hand Down"
  37. "Do You Know Where Your Children Are"
  38. "Bad Girl"
  39. "Lonely Bird"
  40. "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) [Original Version]"
  41. "People Have to Make Some Kind of Joke"
  42. "Love Never Felt So Good"
  43. "Alright Now"
  44. "Scared of the Moon"
  45. "Neverland Landing"
  46. "We Are the Ones"
  47. "What's Your Life?"
  48. "Fantasy"
  49. "The Sky is the Limit"
  50. "Saved by the Bell"
  51. "Chicago 1945"
  52. "Make or Break"
  53. "Turning Me Off"
  54. "Sunset Driver"
  55. "Far Far Away"
When asked by an attorney how many of these songs were in cassette form, Michael said, "Most of them are on cassette." However, if you skim through the list, you'll see finished songs (e.g., "Do You Know Where Your Children Are," "Crack Kills," "Chicago 1945") and incomplete demos (e.g., "Free," "P.Y.T. [Original]," "Al Capone"). So there's no telling exactly what state most of these songs are in -- a cappella concepts, instrumentals, half-finished demo tracks, finished songs, etc.

Even so, there are 55 titles here, 45 of which we've yet to hear -- and most of THOSE are completely non-existent in terms of back story. I'm fascinated in learning more about them.
 
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