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marc_vivien;3362720 said:
Judge Mulls Consolidation of MJ Civil Suits

(CNS) Posted Wednesday April 27, 2011 – 11:00am
A judge considering Katherine Jackson's negligence lawsuit against AEG Live today said that she wants more time to decide if it should be consolidated with one filed by the late King of Pop's father.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would study the issue. Katherine Jackson's estranged husband, Joe, is suing Dr. Conrad Murray, alleging wrongful death in Michael Jackson's June 25, 2009, death due to complications from an overdose of propofol.
"Maybe it will stay here,' the judge said, "maybe it won't.'
Palazuelos said she wants to talk to presiding Judge Carolyn Kuhl before making a final decision.
Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live say they do not want the case linked in any way with a Joe Jackson's case against Murray. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death.
Joe Jackson's case -- now before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Johnson -- alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to Jackson and that he did not tell paramedics that he gave the singer the drug. Johnson this week denied a motion by Murray's attorneys to dismiss the case on grounds it was not filed on time.
The Jackson family patriarch's lawyer, Brian Oxman, filed a "notice of related cases' with Palazuelos. Oxman said he is agreeable to either Palazuelos or Johnson hearing the case.
Katherine Jackson's suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to the involuntary manslaughter charge.
Because Katherine Jackson's is the older of the two lawsuits, Superior Court rules say Palazuelos is the one who makes the decision whether to have both of them before her.
Lawyers for AEG Live say the cases have nothing to do with each other.
"Whereas the vast majority of the factual allegations in Joseph Jackson's complaint concern the day of Michael Jackson's death and subsequent events, the allegations in Katherine Jackson's complaint almost entirely concern events prior to Michael Jackson's death,' the AEG Live court papers state.
Katherine Jackson's lawyers concur, saying in their court papers that her case has "the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray.'
Copyright © 2011 City News Service

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(CNS) Posted Tuesday May 3, 2011 – 10:25am
A judge presiding over Katherine Jackson's negligence lawsuit against AEG Live said today she will also manage a case filed by the late King of Pop's father.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos's ruling on Monday does not consolidate the cases into one, but does mean that Joe Jackson's case will no longer be heard by a separate judge.

Joe Jackson is suing Dr. Conrad Murray, alleging wrongful death in Michael Jackson's June 25, 2009, death due to complications from an overdose of propofol. Katherine Jackson's suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray.

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live said they preferred not having the case linked with the other lawsuit.

Joe Jackson's case -- which until now was before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Johnson -- alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to Jackson and that he did not tell paramedics that he gave the singer the drug.

Murray is also criminally charged with involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death and his trial was delayed this week from May 9 until September.

The issue of whether the Jackson lawsuits should be assigned to one judge came about when the Jackson family patriarch's lawyer, Brian Oxman, filed a ``notice of related cases' with Palazuelos. Oxman said he was agreeable to either Palazuelos or Johnson hearing the case.

Because Katherine Jackson's is the older of the two lawsuits, Superior Court rules stated that Palazuelos should make the decision whether to have both of them before her.

Palazuelos heard arguments last Wednesday and took the matter under submission.

Lawyers for AEG Live said the cases have nothing to do with each other.

``Whereas the vast majority of the factual allegations in Joseph Jackson's complaint concern the day of Michael Jackson's death and subsequent events, the allegations in Katherine Jackson's complaint almost entirely concern events prior to Michael Jackson's death,' the AEG Live court papers stated.

Katherine Jackson's lawyers concurred, saying in their court papers that her case has ``the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray.'

Copyright © 2011 City News Service


http://www.bhcourier.com/article/Lo...son_To_Manage_Case_Filed_By_Her_Husband/75846
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

marc_vivien said:
Katherine Jackson's lawyers concurred, saying in their court papers that her case has ``the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray.'
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I'm happy to hear that the cases won't be joined.

Let Joe Jackson and Brian Oxman have their day in court - ALONE!

I also find it interesting that this article points out "whether or not it employed Conrad Murray," I don't believe I have ever seen that in print before.

I know WE have discussed it, back-and-forth for some time now, but I don't recall having seen it actually mentioned in an article before. Most articles just flat out say that Murray WAS hired by AEG.

Thanks for the update marc vivien.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

I think that's a decent statement about the arguments in KJ- AEG case.

As you know KJ argues that AEG hired Murray as the talks was going on (oral agreement) and Murray was providing services. AEG says that they didn't hire Murray as his hiring was contingent on Michael's signature. So whether he was legally hired or not is a point to be determined in trial.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

Earlier on, didn't Murray's attorney make a statement that "Murray was NEVER paid" and that they were planning to file a lawsuit for those monies?

Although I don't believe anything ever came of Chernoff's lawsuit threat.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

yeah he did
 
marc_vivien;3371668 said:
(CNS) Posted Tuesday May 3, 2011 – 10:25am
A judge presiding over Katherine Jackson's negligence lawsuit against AEG Live said today she will also manage a case filed by the late King of Pop's father.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos's ruling on Monday does not consolidate the cases into one, but does mean that Joe Jackson's case will no longer be heard by a separate judge.

Joe Jackson is suing Dr. Conrad Murray, alleging wrongful death in Michael Jackson's June 25, 2009, death due to complications from an overdose of propofol. Katherine Jackson's suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Murray.

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live said they preferred not having the case linked with the other lawsuit.

Joe Jackson's case -- which until now was before Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Johnson -- alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to Jackson and that he did not tell paramedics that he gave the singer the drug.

Murray is also criminally charged with involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death and his trial was delayed this week from May 9 until September.

The issue of whether the Jackson lawsuits should be assigned to one judge came about when the Jackson family patriarch's lawyer, Brian Oxman, filed a ``notice of related cases' with Palazuelos. Oxman said he was agreeable to either Palazuelos or Johnson hearing the case.

Because Katherine Jackson's is the older of the two lawsuits, Superior Court rules stated that Palazuelos should make the decision whether to have both of them before her.

Palazuelos heard arguments last Wednesday and took the matter under submission.

Lawyers for AEG Live said the cases have nothing to do with each other.

``Whereas the vast majority of the factual allegations in Joseph Jackson's complaint concern the day of Michael Jackson's death and subsequent events, the allegations in Katherine Jackson's complaint almost entirely concern events prior to Michael Jackson's death,' the AEG Live court papers stated.

Katherine Jackson's lawyers concurred, saying in their court papers that her case has ``the distinct factual and legal issues of AEG's direct negligence and whether or not it employed Dr. Conrad Murray.'

Copyright © 2011 City News Service


http://www.bhcourier.com/article/Lo...son_To_Manage_Case_Filed_By_Her_Husband/75846
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ivy;3371698 said:
I think that's a decent statement about the arguments in KJ- AEG case.

As you know KJ argues that AEG hired Murray as the talks was going on (oral agreement) and Murray was providing services. AEG says that they didn't hire Murray as his hiring was contingent on Michael's signature. So whether he was legally hired or not is a point to be determined in trial.
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Thanks people!
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

Segye Times had filed a "notice of lien" with the court , as they did at KJ - AEG lawsuit.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

Well, its rightfully their money and they should get it back
 
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ivy said:
Segye Times had filed a "notice of lien" with the court , as they did at KJ - AEG lawsuit.
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Do you know how much Katherine and Joe owe them?
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

originally it was $4 million, now 17 years later with interest it is $13.8 million
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

thanks ivy :)
 
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ivy said:
originally it was $4 million, now 17 years later with interest it is $13.8 million
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And people wonder why Michael left his family out of his will? This is a perfect example of why Michael in his infinite wisdom did so. I wonder why the media doesn't make some noise about this? They probably would fail to notice that the Koreans aren't going after Michael. Then they would have to admit that MJ had some integrity and his family took the money and ran.
 
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how come the koreans arnt getting their money from katherines allowance? i remember there were something about it but cant remember
 
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Vici said:
how come the koreans arnt getting their money from katherines allowance? i remember there were something about it but cant remember
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they tried that as well. they filed a $7.6 million creditors claim (half of the lien - Katherine's share) against MJ Estate as well , also asked to get their money from her allowance. Estate is now kinda paying for Katherine and not directly to Katherine. and Jackson's complain that they don't get enough money from the estate - while technically they can't and money would go to Segye times first.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

I wonder why they are not going after the ten grand a month Mann gives her?
 
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Justthefacts said:
I wonder why they are not going after the ten grand a month Mann gives her?
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It could be that they have an under the table agreement or he is paying her under a different name. Kind of like how Joe never get sue for all his ventures because he had no money according to his records.
 
Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himself

Michael Jackson Gave Himself the Drugs That Killed Him, Claims Doctor Fighting Wrongful Death Suit

July 29, 2011
Read Conrad's filing here:
http://images.eonline.com/static/news/pdf/ConradMurrayResponse.pdf
Today 1:15 PM PDT by Marianne Garvey and Claudia Rosenbaum
Dr. Conrad Murray wants a judge to toss out the wrongful death lawsuit filed against him by Michael Jackson's father, Joe.

Not only does Murray claim the elder Jackson has no legal right to file against him, but more explosively the doctor is claiming the King of Pop is responsible for his own death...In documents filed in court last Friday, Murray's lawyers claim that Jackson had been secretly administering his own Propofol without the doctor's knowledge and ended up killing himself. Jackson, they allege, "clandestinely self-administered or self-injested such medications" and "is comparatively responsible for his own death," assuming that the drugs killed him.

Jackson's father filed his wrongful death lawsuit against the doc last year, which claims that Murray withheld the singer's medical history from emergency room attendants after Michael was taken to the hospital and initially only admitted to administering three drugs to the "Billie Jean" singer, none of them Propofol.

Joe's lawsuit also states the omission "demonstrated a disregard for Michael Jackson's life" and accuses Murray of giving conflicting statements to police about Michael's drug use.

Conrad's filing claims Michael Jackson had been visiting other doctors who doled out meds to the singer, and that the singer did not provide Murray with his full medical history or an accurate accounting of the meds he was on.



Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b249875_michael_jackson_gave_himself_drugs.html#ixzz1QjFID4Dd
 
Re: Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himse

wow, ok, so this is exactly what they will be claiming at the trial also. How the heck are they gonna prove it? I'm worried.
 
Re: Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himse

Pathetic . He gonna finish in jail, and he knows it, so he tried everything to blame Mike.

 
Re: Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himse

I am sorry is this not what he is claming in crimnal court? And I love the part about not telling him about his medical history. Fool you were his doctor for three years. And he did not tel you the meds he was on? Conrad need I remind you that you have him most of the meds in his room
 
Re: Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himse

Don't be worried. This is just them trying to push the blame onto someone else. The first thing if i were asking murray questions is
1. Where did you receive your Training to be a Doctor?
2. Who taught you CPR?
3. Who taught you how to Dial 911 because they forgot to tell you when to call?
4. Why would you tamper with Evidence if you were not guilty of what you are being tried for?
5. Why are you a Cardiologist when you have no idea How to do CPR?

These and many more are something i would ask. Murray did A LOT of things wrong here. This is by no means a simple case. the Jury needs to remember who the victim is and who the killer is. Michael isn't here to sit us all straight and The video tape somehow magically vanished into thin air. As of right now Michael is still dead and Murray is the one who killed him.
 
Re: Slime begins his Counter to Joe's suit : Conrad Murray Claims in Court Documents MJ Killed Himse

Justthefacts said:
I am sorry is this not what he is claming in crimnal court? And I love the part about not telling him about his medical history. Fool you were his doctor for three years. And he did not tel you the meds he was on? Conrad need I remind you that you have him most of the meds in his room
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I find it more funny that Murray wants us to believe that Michael killed himself while he was out of the room chatting with his girlfriend. As a doctor, why would you leave your patient alone hooked up to an IV filled with dangerous drugs?

Even if Michael self-injected how does that explain Murray not having the proper equipment to revive him, waiting 20 minutes to call 911, breaking the IV tubes, lying to the MTs, ect. If it was all Michael's fault, why not tell the MTs what happened? Really, talking about drowning in your own lies.
 
Re: Joe Jackson wrongful death case against Murray refiled / Court to hear motion to dismiss argumen

Lawyers for Michael Jackson's father wants to add AEG Live as a defendant in his lawsuit alleging the actions of his son's former personal physician contributed to the singer's death.

Court papers filed this week by Joe Jackson's attorneys, Brian Oxman and Maureen Jaroscak, allege AEG Live was negligent in the hiring of Dr. Conrad Murray.

The singer's mother, Katherine Jackson, is suing the company in a separate lawsuit in which she alleges AEG Live is responsible for medical decisions made by Murray.

Lawyers for AEG have denied any wrongdoing by their client, which had organized the sold-out London concert tour for which the entertainer was preparing in Los Angeles at the time of his June 25, 2009, death.

Joe Jackson's amended complaint alleges AEG Live officials were unhappy with his son's absence from rehearsals and blamed it on him receiving drugs and medications from various physicians, including the singer's dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein.

The company then hired Murray, according to the amended suit.

Attorneys for Murray have agreed to the addition of AEG Live as a defendant, but still need the approval of Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos, who has scheduled a hearing for Sept. 6.

Joe Jackson alleges Murray is liable for wrongful death in his son's death, which was death due to complications from an overdose of propofol.

He alleges Murray was negligent in administering propofol to the singer and that the physician did not tell paramedics that he gave his patient the drug.

Murray is awaiting trial in September on an involuntary manslaughter charge in the pop star's death.
 
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ivy said:
Lawyers for Michael Jackson's father wants to add AEG Live as a defendant in his lawsuit
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Does this lawsuit goes somewhere? :fear: Let's see.... :timer:





ivy said:
Court papers filed this week by Joe Jackson's attorneys, Brian Oxman and Maureen Jaroscak, allege AEG Live was negligent in the hiring of Dr. Conrad Murray.
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Oxman? :unsure: He's back? :wtf: :doh:
 
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