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At 49 do you think MJ has the passion to be on stage?

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Last night i was thinking that what if MJ may not really want go back on stage like he was use too...and that maybe he is tried since he has not been active on stage in such a long time.

what do you all think does age play a part when going on stage?
 
I don't think "passion" has anything to do with age.

I mean, you can be 25 years old and lose your passion for something. Or you can be 55 years old and have double the passion for something.

I believe performing is in Michael's blood, something he does not control, something he just does.
 
Didn't michael said he feels happy on stage? Than age doesn't matter, give a look on the history tour. Michael performed incredible and was dancing like a god on stage, than look at the victoury tour. His movements on the victory tour we're good, but not so tight as on the history tour. Age doesn't matter.
 
Big Apple2 said:
I don't think "passion" has anything to do with age.

I mean, you can be 25 years old and lose your passion for something. Or you can be 55 years old and have double the passion for something.

I believe performing is in Michael's blood, something he does not control, something he just does.
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Agreed. Well said.
 
AW: At 49 do you think MJ has the passion to be on stage?

Yes, "passion" doesn't have to do with age! But it seems the passion is long gone! If it would really still be his passion, then we would have gotten more than 4 "concerts" (not even full concerts) in the past eleven years! I seriously hope I'm wrong, but I think the passion is long gone... if anything, I think it's more like he feels he owes it to fans to do something once more, hence his promises!
 
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Science freak said:
Didn't michael said he feels happy on stage? Than age doesn't matter, give a look on the history tour. Michael performed incredible and was dancing like a god on stage, than look at the victoury tour. His movements on the victory tour we're good, but not so tight as on the history tour. Age doesn't matter.
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Yep, but he sang live and danced on the Victory tour!
 
I prefer the Victory tour over History. As the Patrick said above MJ sang live on the Victory tour which requires a lot more energy. It's easier to lyp sing and dance,then singing live and dancing at the same time.
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Yes, "passion" doesn't have to do with age! But it seems the passion is long gone! If it would really still be his passion, then we would have gotten more than 4 "concerts" (not even full concerts) in the past eleven years! I seriously hope I'm wrong, but I think the passion is long gone... if anything, I think it's more like he feels he owes it to fans to do something once more, hence his promises!
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The passion can very well still be there and IS probably still there.

There "could" be obstacles in his way, that prevent him from acting upon his passion. Just because we don't see MJ as much as we would like to see MJ, does not mean he has lost his passion.

If he truly lost his passion, he could have stayed in Bahrain and lived happily ever after, in my opinion.
 
I do agree that he seems to have lost his drive and determination. I think the many years of abuse by the media and the fact that so many of his "friends", and ex-wives have turned on him during his hour of need, has made him really vulnerable about his talent and abilities. He may no longer believe that he still has it
 
jaydom7 said:
I do agree that he seems to have lost his drive and determination. I think the many years of abuse by the media and the fact that so many of his "friends", and ex-wives have turned on him during his hour of need, has made him really vulnerable about his talent and abilities. He may no longer believe that he still has it
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Well if that was the case, he wouldn't have had any input with the Thriller 25 project. And don't blame the ex-wives. LOL! Alot of people have taken "grief" (if that's what you want to call it) from their ex-wives and it hasn't stopped the show. (Bobby Brown is about to give Whitney some "grief" with is new tell-all, do you think that will stop her from releasing her new project. LOL!)

It sounds like YOU don't believe he still has it.

I'll take the word of people like Will.I.Am, who said "Mike still sings like a bird."

Or the more recent words from Big Boi, who said "Mike was very relaxed and enjoying himself."

Words from two people who have ACTUALLY been around Mike in the last couple of months. LOL!
 
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jaydom7 said:
I do agree that he seems to have lost his drive and determination. I think the many years of abuse by the media and the fact that so many of his "friends", and ex-wives have turned on him during his hour of need, has made him really vulnerable about his talent and abilities. He may no longer believe that he still has it
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Well, I think it has more to do with that fact that he has done it all! He has risen to the top and he basically can only fail... people will always expect more and compare it with what he already has done! Besides, back then his career was his priority... now he has 3 children, so obviously they are his priority (and passion) now!
 
I think he could if thats what he wants . He isn,t that old yet many artist are up there all the thime so Michaael can to . But i,m just hoping its soon.
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Yes, "passion" doesn't have to do with age! But it seems the passion is long gone! If it would really still be his passion, then we would have gotten more than 4 "concerts" (not even full concerts) in the past eleven years! I seriously hope I'm wrong, but I think the passion is long gone... if anything, I think it's more like he feels he owes it to fans to do something once more, hence his promises!
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Nah, I don't buy that at all.

Michael loves to make music, period!

But we all know that he doesn't necessarily like "touring".

He said that he loves to be on stage...but I beleive that after being abused so much by the media and the general pubilc, that he's just looking for the right time. I mean, timing really is everything. I think he is creating the climate right now...I mean look at what he's doing with the Thriller album and pepsi, etc.

And obviously he has other priorities now (his children, amongst many other things)...but I don't beleive his passion is dead.

...But I do agree with you in that, passion has nothing to do with age! I don't know where that came from lol...
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Well, I think it has more to do with that fact that he has done it all! He has risen to the top and he basically can only fail... people will always expect more and compare it with what he already has done! Besides, back then his career was his priority... now he has 3 children, so obviously they are his priority (and passion) now!
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I think his passion should be just like his age is. You know he should be there like "I'm almost 50 now but still performing", not like "I'm 50 years old and desperately bringing moonwalk to you all just like it was in the past". Actually it could be even advertised that he is 50 years old. If he was dancing well enough, well enough more than many other 50 years old performers, it would be only good publicity..
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Well, I think it has more to do with that fact that he has done it all! He has risen to the top and he basically can only fail... people will always expect more and compare it with what he already has done! Besides, back then his career was his priority... now he has 3 children, so obviously they are his priority (and passion) now!
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I agree 1000% with what you just said. What else is there left that he can top himself with? Besides, would he really want to be away from his kids just to go perform again? But I will say that I don't think age has anything to do with it. I mean, look at James Brown. He was performing well into his later years and still knocked people of their feet.
 
Yes, cuz he is a true singer, true artist. He loves to sing and dance since he was a kid. No compare to the casting show gits, they do it just for the money...And Michael knows: He is chosen to entertain.
But now of course it tooks much more effort to him than in his twenties!
 
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LovelyOne said:
He said that he loves to be on stage...but I beleive that after being abused so much by the media and the general pubilc, that he's just looking for the right time. I mean, timing really is everything. I think he is creating the climate right now...I mean look at what he's doing with the Thriller album and pepsi, etc.
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And nah, I don't buy that! If you have the passion and urge to get up on a stage and perform then you don't sit (?) around and wait for years just to create a "climate"! If you would have the passion, urge and desire to go out there and perform you would just do it! It's not like he couldn't at any day of the year announce a couple of concerts, which immediatly would be sold out!
 
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PatrickS77 said:
And nah, I don't buy that! If you have the passion and urge to get up on a stage and perform then you don't sit (?) around and wait for years just to create a "climate"! If you would have the passion, urge and desire to go out there and perform you would just do it! It's not like he couldn't at any day of the year announce a couple of concerts, which immediatly would be sold out!
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Even if he has a huge passion and urge to get up on stage, knowing he's a perfectionist think it this way: maybe, just maybe he wants to create something new first, something fresh to give to the audience. I know I wouldn't mind him performing the old songs, but he hasn't released the new album yet, so there isn't any new material to perform. "Knowing" Michael he just doesn't go on stage and perform "something" to keep the people satisfied... He wants everything to be perfect.
 
AW: At 49 do you think MJ has the passion to be on stage?

Hmm... maybe he still has the need for perfection but not the passion to reach that perfection (in his mind) anymore!? :p
 
AW: At 49 do you think MJ has the passion to be on stage?

Hmm, not neccessarily!
 
Being on stage is where Michael feels most at home..

his passion will always be there..

the only thing being 49.. probably 50 when his album comes out is his physical limates.. He will not push himself to reach the stamina he had when he was younger but he will push out what he got.. Which is A LOT..

Michael can put off great performances without waring himself out.. Doing that comes in many different ways..

* Laying out the performances in specific patters.. (fast, slow etc.)
* length of break between each song
* Slowing down the song (just a bit) like the difference between dangerous and HIStory..

I mean there is no reason to fear if he could pull off great (examples) billie jean performances, dangerous performances etc...

It's just stacking the performancse and doing them night after night is where he would have trouble..

he does not want to perform himself into the grave, but he will never leave the stage..
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Hmm... maybe he still has the need for perfection but not the passion to reach that perfection (in his mind) anymore!? :p
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Well that's something no one else but Michael can answer ;) When you're a perfectionist and you're creating something.. You want everything to be perfect before you show it to the world, no matter how long it takes. And when saying he hasn't performed since 2001.. well there has been other things in his life when getting on stage was probably the last thing on his mind, so can you really blame him? I know everyone's anxiously waiting for something to happen, but demanding and telling what he should and should not do isn't going to help.. All we can do is have some faith and wait :flowers:
 
As we all know, Michael has worked very hard all his life, since he has been 5 years old.

Michael is taking time for Michael, doing the things that Michael has never had the chance do when he was younger because he was always working, pleasing everyone else..!

As long as it takes Mike, your fans/admirers will be here for you.
 
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PatrickS77 said:
And nah, I don't buy that! If you have the passion and urge to get up on a stage and perform then you don't sit (?) around and wait for years just to create a "climate"! If you would have the passion, urge and desire to go out there and perform you would just do it! It's not like he couldn't at any day of the year announce a couple of concerts, which immediatly would be sold out!
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I'm sorry, but did you even look at anything I typed?

If the media is abusing you and bashing you and calling you a pedophile and all kinds of other crap out of your name, are you going to jump on the nearest stage a month later?

I think not. When something this traumatic happens, you have to EASE YOUR WAY back into the scene. This is about smart career moves and timing. And obviously Mike now has the support of his fans all over the world...

And the other thing I stated, about his children...like someone else said, it's probably not as easy to just "get up and go" leave your kids to go do tours and shows all over the place.

All of this said, I don't believe he should ever be underestimated. He has never disappointed me, at least, thus far.
 
Michael's passion is NOT long gone..Michael's priorities may have shifted with more emphasis and time spent on being a father and rightfully so. At an era and in a celebrity culture where youngesters run rampant with no discipline or attention I'm so happy that Michael is taking his time rearing his children and tending to his personal/family life. And, that may mean that despite his love and passion his interests may progress slowly..and I know youre going to say but Madonna has kids and she has churned album after album (which i thought were mediocre attempts) and toured the world...all I have to say is that those career moves were not Michael's intentions...

and passion has nothing to do with age..you can rekindle or lose a passion at any age.
 
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