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I'm kinda relieved Michael passed away

Can't say I'm relieved that Michael is no longer with us. His kids certainly aren't relieved.
 
What do you really mean? I am not going to trade anyhing with Michael who's passed away! For example I dont have any contact with Sony Music or Epic again so it doesnt really bother me. In the first place I havent been after the money... Please dont blame me because you dont know what youre talking about!
 
I'm heartbroken that Michael isn't able to perform no more.
I'm heartbroken that the entertainment industry has died.
I'm heartbroken that Michael's children don't have a father no more.
I'm heartbroken that the one that raised me isn't here no more.

But I'm relieved that Michael don't have to suffer no more, and that no one can hurt him, never again.
 
snowhite said:
Michael loved life with all the good and the bad things that came with it...he loved life with a passion, that's where all his passion came from!
he was terrified of death...poor thing, it's good he didn't know what was coming for him, he went to sleep a happy man he didn't have to see death in the face he was so scared of it
did you know that when he was on tour he used to travel by car instead of a plane when there was bad weather? his tour employees said it was so frustrating for them because they were wasting time but Michael chose that because he was afraid of accidents on bad weather i.e. he was afraid of death
as for his kids, I lost my father when I was 13 and I'm telling you growing up without a father is no fun...and on top of that you miss him too..for the rest of your life
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Thankyou, thankyou. I thought everyone was going insane for a second.
And for those who say he's finally away from the vultures and the media who tore into him...HE'D MUCH RATHER BE LIVING WITH THAT than to not be here!!! He'd much rather be with his children, making music, doing the comeback tour. He had SO much more to give and to live for.
And he would've wanted to see his beautiful children grow into adults.
See them get married.
Like he said, he had 'rhinoceros' skin. Yes, the media were vultures and caused him deep pain. Yes, it would've worn him down.
BUT HE ALWAYS ROSE ABOVE IT. He had thruth in his heart and his talents and beauty inside and out conqored. His children and family and fans and music and dance brought him the most joy in the world.
Yes, he's in a better place now, but he'd much rather have still been living for another 20-30 years I'm sure of it.
 
BruceWayne said:
I'm heartbroken that Michael isn't able to perform no more.
I'm heartbroken that the entertainment industry has died.
I'm heartbroken that Michael's children don't have a father no more.
I'm heartbroken that the one that raised me isn't here no more.

But I'm relieved that Michael don't have to suffer no more, and that no one can hurt him, never again.
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MJJs Soulmate xo said:
BUT HE ALWAYS ROSE ABOVE IT. He had thruth in his heart and his talents and beauty inside and out conqored. His children and family and fans and music and dance brought him the most joy in the world.
Yes, he's in a better place now, but he'd much rather have still been living for another 20-30 years I'm sure of it.
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Apart from him being in a better place now I agree with everything you say, I'm sure MJ would have preferred to stick around for a few decades more.....
 
BruceWayne said:
But I'm relieved that Michael don't have to suffer no more, and that no one can hurt him, never again.
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I completely understand what you are saying, but I do not feel the same way.

With life comes the possibility of being loved, being happy and being hurt.... I'm not the least relieved that MJ is gone and do not have the chance of exploring everything life can offer... yes, I wish he and everyone else could get through life without being hurt, but I do not think it's possible and I personally would not want to die just to avoid being hurt in the future... I'm guessing it would be the same for MJ...
 
I guess if one is relieved is dependent on if one believe that there is something (whatever) waiting for us after this life.

As everyone can see I've just lost my boyfriend lately also. We knew he would die. I was his fulltime nurse the last weeks, he wasn't able to leave bed anymore the last weeks, got a lot of very strong medication etc. etc... one can say his last weeks were only suffering. Still we knew he would die... I have known this already a year ago and the difference is we had a chance to say good bye.

I will refrain from saying that easier/better or harder/worse than the way Michael died.

Still I got the lesson, there is a point or even moment life ends... whatever you can try or say. We're never really ready for it and that's why we're not asked. We can't ever be ready for such a loss. But I want to share this my boyfriend had to suffer a lot his last days, I was like always into tears only... and I'm really not someone overemotional or even crying easily... it was just hard to see and not being able to really help him, sometimes it hurted so much to see him like that it seemed hard to only breathe.

If we do believe the reports we got Michael died in his sleep.
Of cuz from personal experience only I think there's a lot of blessing in it.
Yes Michael was only 50... my boyfriend was only 41 almost 42... and there's children dying every day after having been the majority of time of their lives very sick.
Why am I saying this... cuz ppl often tend to look into only one direction.
Whatever caused Michaels death... maybe if he wouldn't lots of suffering was only waiting for him... maybe lots of misery... life is not only bright and happy and full of success.
I understand those of you who are saying but it is beautiful... yes I do believe that also... I love this life the way it is. Gosh I really had a beautiful relationship and really perfect years lately.
Still there is a moment we have to leave life, everybody will sooner or later. Some of us will not leave it too easily... for some of us lots of suffering is waiting before we will be allowed to leave. And for the ppl who love us the moment will never be really right.
My boyfriend once said, ppl are allowed to die for that they do not have to suffer forever. To me that is truely the sense I can find in death.

Michael is save now. He is not suffering. And even though it will might be heavy on his heart to now see his children suffering from his loss, he knows in the end it will be all good... because I do believe that Michael now understands all we're not able to cuz we're still only here. He knows the reason why he had to leave this early. He knows the reason why there is this much suffering in this world. He knows why we limited humans are not able to just keep peace and understanding for eachother but go on fighting... he knows all that now, he understands it and that's why it's not bothering him anymore... and he knows in the end it will be all good.

Well of cuz you have to believe that or something like this to feel a relief about his loss or call it if you find comfort like this. But yes I do believe he is where it's all good for him now and I understand the relieve in knowing him just save now... there is some comfort in this thought helping me missing him as I do too.

I even feel in those moments I break down crying (not only cuz of Michael but of cuz even more cuz of the loss of my bf), it's more I'm really feeling sorry for myself cuz of being alone now, cuz of having to face everything without his support and tenderness now. But I guess there's still something meant for me to do here... so I'm willing to first do that.

and I don't think feeling like this or believing this makes someone a better or worse fan.
We're just the way we are.
I just hope for the tolerance of those not believing the same and feeling different and can assure all of my tolerance also of cuz.
 
I'm not relieved that he died like this; for me that would be the wrong way to put it. However i'm glad that he died without warning, and that God took him when he was happy.

Just read your post Mechi, you put it beautifully :)
 
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Mechi said:
I guess if one is relieved is dependent on if one believe that there is something (whatever) waiting for us after this life.

As everyone can see I've just lost my boyfriend lately also. We knew he would die. I was his fulltime nurse the last weeks, he wasn't able to leave bed anymore the last weeks, got a lot of very strong medication etc. etc... one can say his last weeks were only suffering. Still we knew he would die... I have known this already a year ago and the difference is we had a chance to say good bye.

I will refrain from saying that easier/better or harder/worse than the way Michael died.

Still I got the lesson, there is a point or even moment life ends... whatever you can try or say. We're never really ready for it and that's why we're not asked. We can't ever be ready for such a loss. But I want to share this my boyfriend had to suffer a lot his last days, I was like always into tears only... and I'm really not someone overemotional or even crying easily... it was just hard to see and not being able to really help him, sometimes it hurted so much to see him like that it seemed hard to only breathe.

If we do believe the reports we got Michael died in his sleep.
Of cuz from personal experience only I think there's a lot of blessing in it.
Yes Michael was only 50... my boyfriend was only 41 almost 42... and there's children dying every day after having been the majority of time of their lives very sick.
Why am I saying this... cuz ppl often tend to look into only one direction.
Whatever caused Michaels death... maybe if he wouldn't lots of suffering was only waiting for him... maybe lots of misery... life is not only bright and happy and full of success.
I understand those of you who are saying but it is beautiful... yes I do believe that also... I love this life the way it is. Gosh I really had a beautiful relationship and really perfect years lately.
Still there is a moment we have to leave life, everybody will sooner or later. Some of us will not leave it too easily... for some of us lots of suffering is waiting before we will be allowed to leave. And for the ppl who love us the moment will never be really right.
My boyfriend once said, ppl are allowed to die for that they do not have to suffer forever. To me that is truely the sense I can find in death.

Michael is save now. He is not suffering. And even though it will might be heavy on his heart to now see his children suffering from his loss, he knows in the end it will be all good... because I do believe that Michael now understands all we're not able to cuz we're still only here. He knows the reason why he had to leave this early. He knows the reason why there is this much suffering in this world. He knows why we limited humans are not able to just keep peace and understanding for eachother but go on fighting... he knows all that now, he understands it and that's why it's not bothering him anymore... and he knows in the end it will be all good.

Well of cuz you have to believe that or something like this to feel a relief about his loss or call it if you find comfort like this. But yes I do believe he is where it's all good for him now and I understand the relieve in knowing him just save now... there is some comfort in this thought helping me missing him as I do too.

I even feel in those moments I break down crying (not only cuz of Michael but of cuz even more cuz of the loss of my bf), it's more I'm really feeling sorry for myself cuz of being alone now, cuz of having to face everything without his support and tenderness now. But I guess there's still something meant for me to do here... so I'm willing to first do that.

and I don't think feeling like this or believing this makes someone a better or worse fan.
We're just the way we are.
I just hope for the tolerance of those not believing the same and feeling different and can assure all of my tolerance also of cuz.
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your post broke my heart. I am so incredibly sorry for your loss..... xxx
 
I'm reliefed Michael doesn't have to suffer anymore (lies, hatred, tabloids, false friends,....), BUT....

- he should have lived on to see his children grow up
- he should have lived on to see his grandchildren
- he should have lived to show the world that he is STILL the greatest entertainer of all time
- he should have lived to smile and laugh (his smile and laugh were the most beautiful in the world and will be GREATLY missed)
- he should have live for SO many reasons.....SO MANY....MANY MORE than reasons for him passing.

It's a tragedy :'(
 
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not relieved at all. I'm saddened that his life had to be cut short like it did.
 
enlightenu said:
In a way I agree with Topflux.

Don't get me wrong, I'm at a range of emotions from shock, to sadness (I just start crying suddenly out of the blue--especially after the memorial service--when it just finally hit me that Michael is gone.

Now, along with sadness, I'm filled with rage--seething rage against all of those people that had a hand in making Michael's life filled with unnecessary drama. From the false accusers of the 1993 and of 2003, the media who basically helped them get away their lies by purposely turning a blind eye to their wrong doing just so they can have an 'excuse' to belittle and dehumanize Michael, people who were nothing but wolves in sheeps' clothing, who betrayed him then (and who are profiting and benefiting off of his death now). I'm angry that EVERY TIME Michael planned on doing something great or making a comeback in some way, there was ALWAYS something conveniently coming along to ruin it.

Most of all, I'm angry that Michael, who was as good as they come, is gone; his beloved children are without their beloved father, and all of the jerks who have made his life miserable over the years are still walking the face of this earth---some even using his death to get their 15 minutes of fame and/or career advancement at his expense--while others are doing their best to smear his memory and legacy just like they smeared and killed his character when he was alive.

So, in a way, one bright side about Michael's death (IF THERE IS ONE) is that he's not hurting anymore at the hands of these no-good people. They cannot add on anymore stress to his life. He can finally have peace. I just feel sorry for his children and his blood-family who don't have him anymore in their lives.
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as much as I dont want to agree with anyone about Michael's passing the only thing that I can say is that I agree that he is not hurting anymore and it seems as though he was. And the big thing is that no one can ever hurt him again.
 
I truly believe he hadn't been hurting as much since his children were born...
He cherished every single second with them and they are what kept him going and wanting to live. He wanted them to see him perform.... :'(
 
I understand your point, Topflux. I feel relived too, because I know that Michael doesn't need to suffer anymore. He's in peace and that thought makes me calm. Though I'm sad he's gone so soon, I'm glad he doesn't have to feel pain and sorrow anymore. We all know he loved us, he loved his children and he loved the world and I think we also know that he knew we loved him. That makes me happy. He died happy.

Ohood said:
BUt,my sisters are telling me that if he performed the concerts they will tear him a part just like what are they doing now in the media , and he would probably die out of sadness. and God wanted to make him die while happy and dreaming of a good tommorrow.
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That's my thought excactly. 50 shows is huge amount for anyone - let alone a 50 -year old. EVEN THOUGH Michael was is good shape. 50 shows is a lot.
 
Mechi said:
I guess if one is relieved is dependent on if one believe that there is something (whatever) waiting for us after this life.

As everyone can see I've just lost my boyfriend lately also. We knew he would die. I was his fulltime nurse the last weeks, he wasn't able to leave bed anymore the last weeks, got a lot of very strong medication etc. etc... one can say his last weeks were only suffering. Still we knew he would die... I have known this already a year ago and the difference is we had a chance to say good bye.

I will refrain from saying that easier/better or harder/worse than the way Michael died.

Still I got the lesson, there is a point or even moment life ends... whatever you can try or say. We're never really ready for it and that's why we're not asked. We can't ever be ready for such a loss. But I want to share this my boyfriend had to suffer a lot his last days, I was like always into tears only... and I'm really not someone overemotional or even crying easily... it was just hard to see and not being able to really help him, sometimes it hurted so much to see him like that it seemed hard to only breathe.

If we do believe the reports we got Michael died in his sleep.
Of cuz from personal experience only I think there's a lot of blessing in it.
Yes Michael was only 50... my boyfriend was only 41 almost 42... and there's children dying every day after having been the majority of time of their lives very sick.
Why am I saying this... cuz ppl often tend to look into only one direction.
Whatever caused Michaels death... maybe if he wouldn't lots of suffering was only waiting for him... maybe lots of misery... life is not only bright and happy and full of success.
I understand those of you who are saying but it is beautiful... yes I do believe that also... I love this life the way it is. Gosh I really had a beautiful relationship and really perfect years lately.
Still there is a moment we have to leave life, everybody will sooner or later. Some of us will not leave it too easily... for some of us lots of suffering is waiting before we will be allowed to leave. And for the ppl who love us the moment will never be really right.
My boyfriend once said, ppl are allowed to die for that they do not have to suffer forever. To me that is truely the sense I can find in death.

Michael is save now. He is not suffering. And even though it will might be heavy on his heart to now see his children suffering from his loss, he knows in the end it will be all good... because I do believe that Michael now understands all we're not able to cuz we're still only here. He knows the reason why he had to leave this early. He knows the reason why there is this much suffering in this world. He knows why we limited humans are not able to just keep peace and understanding for eachother but go on fighting... he knows all that now, he understands it and that's why it's not bothering him anymore... and he knows in the end it will be all good.

Well of cuz you have to believe that or something like this to feel a relief about his loss or call it if you find comfort like this. But yes I do believe he is where it's all good for him now and I understand the relieve in knowing him just save now... there is some comfort in this thought helping me missing him as I do too.

I even feel in those moments I break down crying (not only cuz of Michael but of cuz even more cuz of the loss of my bf), it's more I'm really feeling sorry for myself cuz of being alone now, cuz of having to face everything without his support and tenderness now. But I guess there's still something meant for me to do here... so I'm willing to first do that.

and I don't think feeling like this or believing this makes someone a better or worse fan.
We're just the way we are.
I just hope for the tolerance of those not believing the same and feeling different and can assure all of my tolerance also of cuz.
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omg I am so so sorry Mechi for the loss of your boyfriend I have only just seen your sig...I am truely sorry for you and sending you *hugs* and love xxx
 
Ugh, this thread title makes me sick, but I guess I can see where you're coming from if you mean that you are glad that he is no longer in pain or suffering. However, Michael loved life. He was looking forward to so many things in his life and wanted to see his children grow up. Personally, I am not the least bit relieved that he's passed away. I'd prefer to have him alive even with all the media and haters talking crap all the time. At least he would still be here. I see no good in him dying, but good for you I guess that you've made peace with his passing. I do have to say though that your posts in this threads have been kinda cold and insensitive. A bit unsettling to me anyway, but hey, everyone is different I guess.
 
GO TO HELL!! :mad:

How can you possibly find something positive from this?????!!!! I feel like slapping you!! :mad:
 
I respect your opinion, Topflux. You are entitled to it, and whatever happens it is obvious you loved Michael as much as any of us, and you have good intentions. Whatever helps us deal with the loss, is what we must believe, I suppose, because that's a way for us to remember Michael and keep him alive by staying alive.

However, I must say this - surely never on behalf of anything or anyone, but I feel I must say it because it was my first reaction... I don't think any parent of especially young children should pass away. Michael may have had a painful life, he may no longer be vulnerable to the things that hurt him, but I have a hard time - personally - feeling relief when I see his three little ones. I can hardly imagine he loved them less than his own life.

But whatever you believe is your right. You have a right to believe that God knows a good reason - I personally believe that not everything done by the divine is always good and well-planned, I believe sometimes life is just unfair, the divine is cruel in its wisdom, but not per definition always looking out for everyone's best interest, no. I have a hard time believing that after things I've seen and been through. I've never felt the need to believe they were for the better - but again, we all deal with things differently.
 
My mind is fucked and my heart is broken right now. Of all the thoughts, emotions & feelings I have, "relieved" is not one of them. It seeems that these last 3 weeks have just passed by without me; life continues, days go by, and yet I'm still back at 3 weeks ago, like it was just yesterday that I heard. It's weird for me. Still raw. I don't know when it'll sink in.
I felt the same amount of shock reading your words "I'm kinda relieved Michael passed away", as I did when I heard about Michael 3 weeks ago. Only difference is instead of heartbroken, disbelief shock, it's a disgusted shock. It's weird and kinda disgusting to me that you would think or say that.
Everybody deals in their own way, fair enough, but this thread is just... whatever. Kinda sick.

The fact is, Michael was terrified of death. It's like he had a morbid fear of death. Whenever anybody mentioned death or dying, he would freak out.
He loved life. Despite everything he went through, he still somehow loved life. Not necessarily HIS life in the sense of the situations he faced, but in the sense of just being alive. He was so alive with spirit & love. If somebody was to take a good experience & give it to him, he would make it a million times more exciting & wonderful. Life just ran through his blood and radiated around him, like a halo of light. He WAS life. You only had to look at him & he'd do something to you. His smile was contagious, his mere presence made people feel...indescribable.
If I was to write about all the things he had to live for, I'd be here a very long time.

There's no consolation for the fact he's not here. Sure, in our hearts & minds he'll never die, he'll never be buried, he'll never go.
That's all very nice & all, and it's so true... But it still ain't the same as him actually being here. 'Cause there's no reason for him to not still be here. He wasn't supposed to go yet. He didn't want to. Too much to live for

It's the story of his life; whenever something good happened for him, something or someone would always ruin it. And now this. Just as something good was happening, his life was about to turn around, he's gone. So no, I don't feel relieved. I feel heartbroken & angry
 
Some of you said you are angry and sad Michael died and that he died 'too soon'. But who can prove it happened too soon, that I dont understand? And to whom you are angry? Have you thought probably God knows the best and it was better this way..? And even right now? Then it just couldnt be wrong and you shouldnt be angry and not even sad. It can be the first thing in your mind but it's better to get just rid of it and feel relieved and happy...
 
MJAngelzx said:
My mind is fucked and my heart is broken right now. Of all the thoughts, emotions & feelings I have, "relieved" is not one of them. It seeems that these last 3 weeks have just passed by without me; life continues, days go by, and yet I'm still back at 3 weeks ago, like it was just yesterday that I heard. It's weird for me. Still raw. I don't know when it'll sink in.
I felt the same amount of shock reading your words "I'm kinda relieved Michael passed away", as I did when I heard about Michael 3 weeks ago. Only difference is instead of heartbroken, disbelief shock, it's a disgusted shock. It's weird and kinda disgusting to me that you would think or say that.
Everybody deals in their own way, fair enough, but this thread is just... whatever. Kinda sick.

The fact is, Michael was terrified of death. It's like he had a morbid fear of death. Whenever anybody mentioned death or dying, he would freak out.
He loved life. Despite everything he went through, he still somehow loved life. Not necessarily HIS life in the sense of the situations he faced, but in the sense of just being alive. He was so alive with spirit & love. If somebody was to take a good experience & give it to him, he would make it a million times more exciting & wonderful. Life just ran through his blood and radiated around him, like a halo of light. He WAS life. You only had to look at him & he'd do something to you. His smile was contagious, his mere presence made people feel...indescribable.
If I was to write about all the things he had to live for, I'd be here a very long time.

There's no consolation for the fact he's not here. Sure, in our hearts & minds he'll never die, he'll never be buried, he'll never go.
That's all very nice & all, and it's so true... But it still ain't the same as him actually being here. 'Cause there's no reason for him to not still be here. He wasn't supposed to go yet. He didn't want to. Too much to live for

It's the story of his life; whenever something good happened for him, something or someone would always ruin it. And now this. Just as something good was happening, his life was about to turn around, he's gone. So no, I don't feel relieved. I feel heartbroken & angry
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great post.. I agree 100%. Michael was scared to die and loved life so much so this is very upsetting to me. I am in NO WAY relieved at all. We can never see his beautiful face, hear his beautiful voice, or see him dance ever again. Michael will never get to see his children, his family, or grandchildren. How can I be relieved about this? I cant. I will be hurt and heartbroken the rest of my life.
 
MJAngelzx said:
My mind is fucked and my heart is broken right now. Of all the thoughts, emotions & feelings I have, "relieved" is not one of them. It seeems that these last 3 weeks have just passed by without me; life continues, days go by, and yet I'm still back at 3 weeks ago, like it was just yesterday that I heard. It's weird for me. Still raw. I don't know when it'll sink in.
I felt the same amount of shock reading your words "I'm kinda relieved Michael passed away", as I did when I heard about Michael 3 weeks ago. Only difference is instead of heartbroken, disbelief shock, it's a disgusted shock. It's weird and kinda disgusting to me that you would think or say that.
Everybody deals in their own way, fair enough, but this thread is just... whatever. Kinda sick.

The fact is, Michael was terrified of death. It's like he had a morbid fear of death. Whenever anybody mentioned death or dying, he would freak out.
He loved life. Despite everything he went through, he still somehow loved life. Not necessarily HIS life in the sense of the situations he faced, but in the sense of just being alive. He was so alive with spirit & love. If somebody was to take a good experience & give it to him, he would make it a million times more exciting & wonderful. Life just ran through his blood and radiated around him, like a halo of light. He WAS life. You only had to look at him & he'd do something to you. His smile was contagious, his mere presence made people feel...indescribable.
If I was to write about all the things he had to live for, I'd be here a very long time.

There's no consolation for the fact he's not here. Sure, in our hearts & minds he'll never die, he'll never be buried, he'll never go.
That's all very nice & all, and it's so true... But it still ain't the same as him actually being here. 'Cause there's no reason for him to not still be here. He wasn't supposed to go yet. He didn't want to. Too much to live for

It's the story of his life; whenever something good happened for him, something or someone would always ruin it. And now this. Just as something good was happening, his life was about to turn around, he's gone. So no, I don't feel relieved. I feel heartbroken & angry
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Great post! I agree with everything said. Relieved is the last thing I felt when hearing MJ had passed away. I feel like Michael was so blessed but cursed at the same time. As you said, anytime things were starting to look good for him, something had to come in the way and mess it all up for him. Now this is just the ultimate, his death I mean of course. He had just sold out 50 concert dates after going through a horrible, humiliating trial years ago and i'm sure many counted him out. For him to sell out 50 concert dates is amazing. I can't think of anyone else who could do that.

Things just feel so unresolved and unfinished. Michael should have had a chance to watch his children grow up. He should have had a chance to enjoy more time with his family and friends. He should have had a chance to make a comeback in his music career. He should have had the chance to turn into an old man. I feel like his life was just cut much too short:no:. I don't feel relieved AT ALL either.
 
Ppl do have different beliefs and that's why we're coming to different conclusions maybe comforting us.

Also not everybody is obviously an english native in here.

We have the aim to give everyone some space for sharing their thoughts however strange might are to some.

Ppl please try not to attack eachother in these times ok!
Discussion however is ok, everybody should be allowed to share their thoughts.
If you don't understand then ask. If you disagree then please just disagree.
And if this only upsets you then it's might time to skip this thread and look for another one?!
 
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