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I've posted this same thing before, but will state my position again because the threads are very long.
No one is saying "AEG killed Michael." But there is enough that doesn't add up, that it's worth exploring. Some can continue to post and post that it's best to wait for an "official" report. Actually, we have a right to discuss and will continue, regardless. If these types of theads make people uncomfortable or upset. . and I can understand that, I'd avise not reading or posting in them, for the sake of those who DO have concerns, and minds desirous and capable of sifting through the available information. This is not that different than it was during the trial, when MJJF did a LOT of good.
"Authorities" and "officlal" reports include LAPD. If anyone has information that they are, or are not, corrupt, and have always treated Michael well, that's great. I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, some fans feel the need to continue to speculate and brain-storm, for the sake of justice for Michael's children.
Here is the primary dilemma. There are two diametrically opposed sets of "information." One comes largely from the AEG folks, that Michael was in great shape and ready to perform. The other comes largely from some of Michael's staff, and from fans, and his family. Whether or not you believe Latoya, who was interviewed by a tabloid, is up to you. Whether or not you believe fans over AEG and the LAPD, is up to you. If you have learned nothing else from the trial, I hope you have learned that "official" reports can be manipulated. Right?
So the second piece of information was that Michael was not well, was too thin, and had only agreed to do ten shows, but someone signed FOR him and he was suddenly obligated to do fifty. He didn't want to let fans down. He would have had injunctions against future performances it he'd canceled. He tried. And then he died, nearly on the eve of his going to London.
Both sets of information cannot be true. He was fine, or he was not fine. Hence, we continue to ask questions and to THINK.
Some say it makes no sense for his death to have been deliberate. That AEG would make more from him alive than dead. Here is my response to that:
AEG had a massive insurance policy on Michael. They have said they were only insured for thirty shows, however. (Who else had insurance policies on him? Time will tell.) What if they expected him to be able to complete only a few of the shows? They would have lost huge amounts of money. He passed a physical, which undoubtedly would have included drug testing. The insurance policy specified "drug overdose." That is highly unusual. They stood to gain more if he died, and I believe that.
Here are questions/comments.
How could have Michael have passed a physical, if he was not well? Someone else took it for him? I'm just speculating, but that is not impossible if the insurance company doctor had never met him face-to-face. Or, he was well then, but not recently, after grueling rehearsals and little sleep? Or, the doctor was paid a LOT by someone, to pass him. All this is possible. If someone has proof that it's NOT possible, I'd love to hear it.
The doctor was outrageously incompetant, in my opinion. He DID something. No one has said Michael died of natural causes. Murray waited thirty minutes before calling 911, and that is INSANE. He was a cardiologist, but didn't have the knowledge of CPR that the average Boy Scout has? Or did he not really try? Was Michael already gone, but he wanted to make sure of that before calling paramedics? That he did not have a phone or know the address is INSANE, or deliberate. . . . He said he did CPR with one hand behind Michael's back because Michael was FRAIL. The doctor said that. Did we not READ that? The doctor himself said, "Michael was frail." That kind of CPR might be given to a thirty-pound toddler, but never an adult.
And there is more. The surveillance tapes have DISAPPEARED. That in itself is highly suspicious. Can anyone say it's NOT suspicious? WHO really hired the doctor/chose him? AEG says Michael did. How do we know that? We don't. Michael is not here to refute that.
How could AEG make more money with Michael dead? If they did not expect him to have the stamina to complete the fifty shows, they would make MORE with him gone. There is the insurance money. There are some fans who would rather keep the tickets than have refunds (not blaming fans here. I understand.) There is immense product marketing, with rehearsal footage and other things. There has been no indication that I've seen that this money goes to the estate. If there is, I'd love to see it.
LAPD took down the crime-scene tape way too soon, and access to the house was allowed. Why did they do this? It WAS a suspicious death.
With this many questions, how can we NOT try to speculate? This was MICHAEL. We loved him. Personally, I would like to see the truth come out, whatever it is, for the sake of justice for his children. I want accountability, and i want these questions ANSWERED.
peace-out,
Victoria
And again, no one is saying not to ask questions. But, there seems to be only one set of questions that are being asked and discussed. Why not other scenarios and looking at others who could benefit from Michael's death?
And I think that the whole drug overdose/insurance part may be getting expanded more than what was said and what is known. I think at the time, Phillips was responding to a question about the financial recovery if the coroner indicates that cause of death was from an overdose. Now, whether his response was accurate, wishful thinking, or what, the insurance company would have to tell that. It wasn't like the only thing he was insured for was in the event of a drug overdose, the insurance would pay off. Also, it is probable that insurance companies have standard language in terms of what is or is not covered. Also, from the beginning AEG said that they might have to self-insure some or most of the shows. There was never a waiver from that. They knew the financial risks from this but accepted it because it could have paid very well in the end. An insurance company is not going to give them the profits that would have been gotten if these shows had been completed.
Again, I would just love for this conversation to be more inclusive rather than finding what fits particular scenarios. No matter what is said, some have immediately said that must be a lie if coming from AEG. That is not investigating but trying to fit a certain scenario.
If AEG is at fault, then hold them at fault. But, the "if" has to be answered. Same goes for others who aren't really being discussed.