Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

20 years is a long time. lol! :wild: But they say this song is from 1980. In Mijac it was recorded in 1980. But I believe that Michael has changed the song (lyrics) several times. But it is beside the point. For me it does not matter when that song. The song is beautiful... for me is all that matters. :wub:
A long time is right. I dusted off my cassette tape vault (really it's a storage box) :lol: and I do have one of her albums. It's the self-titled one which I think was her first so it doesn't have this particular song on it. :)

Heart closed to love... :unsure:

Ok ladies, who's got the key????? lol.....sorry I'm a silly sleepy right now. lol


Let's see, the list for Lily to bring with her next time she goes to Whole Foods...

Apple and Butternut squash soup!!!
granola bars for little critter friends in yard!!!
and NO cheesecake, because she does not find it sexy! :tease:
I'm starting to believe I have selective memory :fear: :lol: .....and no cheesecake it correct :puke: LOL


Actually I wanna hear the whole song before I can say anything...because it seems the lyrics that are posted are slightly different from the ones MJ is singing in that clip. So is the clip the demo...and there is another version with other lyrics somewhere? Or did he change the lyrics later, after Safire recorded the song...for whatever reason? :scratch:

Aww the "True Love" thread, it does sort of link to this one in a way. :)

and I agree with this highlighted part. I don't think 43 seconds(4+3=7 :huh:) is enough to interpret, especially if we don't know whether or not these are going to be the same lyrics. The instrumental intro is beautiful. I wonder if Michael chose his brothers to sing background? at least on MJ.com website it says they do. hmmmmm.

I know this is inviting Ashtanga to feel once again, no, there was no one in his heart at all because if there were he would have been with her. I just don't know about that. When you add it all up, look at his isolated lonely life, plus all the women that it was easy for Michael to be with, and was with, and you listen to his music, it is different stories.

What about that thread in GD about him being in-love with the video girl(s)?.....Maybe that's MJ's LITD?

I get the feeling that at the bottom of Michael's heart the sense of "belonging" is key. Lyrics that say things like, "I feel we belong" or "when two hearts belong so well" or just listening to him shout, "you and me! together!! together!!!" says that he was reaching OUT through his music to "someone". This is largely why I say that in the end, she served merely as a "muse", someone who brought forth the feeling from him through the music,

What I find interesting is MJ would say the lyrics came from somewhere else, they were sent from God? True love is also a gift brought into our life by God or something/someone greater than ourself. Maybe God or something/someone higher was having MJ go through all these emotions throughout the years so when the day finally came he was able to recognize that it really is TRUE and that it is REAL? We all are taught lessons or given tests throughout life. Could be since music is MJ's calling that's how the lessons of love were taught to him over the years, he was being prepared for the day "she" would come into his life. :)

someone he had an 'experience' with, but at the end, was not someone he was able to actually touch.

What kind of experience :blink: :unsure: lol..and there's "not able to touch" again like Justus and Victoria previously posted something about "touch". I have to go back and read all that again, it's not processing in my sleepyhead at the moment dang it. :yawn: LOL
 
SoS, incredible story there about your uncle. Your entire post was beautiful. Hugs

Summer, I can definitely understand where you are coming from. I guess whichever way you cut it – it all irks of unfair and unfinished business. Either he had found love and was cut short or he hadn't yet had the chance and was still looking, so it seems cruel both ways. The reason why I was so happy to hear the song and what I got out of Justus comment about 'summing things up for the thread' was an answer to the question in the name of the thread and some of the recent discusion about true love that had been going on. I, therefore, understood those few lines to mean that indeed Michael had found true love, however shortlived that might have been, and I was very happy for him.

It's very possible, probable even that I read into it all too much. I remember a little story from a book I once read – a young man was in a park and was enthused at the sight of a darkhaired girl and he didn't know how to approach her so he was very happy when he saw her look towards him and wave. It turns out she was signaling her boyfriend, who was sitting behind him. The man was together with a friend and he confinded – but I was so sure that was a sign. Then his friend told him – how come you didn't notice the nice blonde girl sitting on the bench next to you who was obviously interested to know more about you? So, I guess that was a cautionary tale about seeing what we want to see, or maybe an appeal for settling on what we can attain or to notice the obvious, I don't even know myself.

In any case, the bottomline of what I am actually tryin to say is – I know we may be hurting very much now, especially when hearing or seeing videos of Michael, but we must understand that there is soooo much beauty in the world, so much goodness and kindness out there (done by people more or less famous in the quiet knowledge they need neither approval nor praise for what they are doing), but also so much injustice and hurt that need intervention, that we must find our strength to wipe the tears, roll up the sleeves and get to work and by that I don't necessarily mean go out at once and volunteer for an NGO, but simply try and enjoy life to the maximum in the smallest of details of daily life and give a helping hand when we can.

I would have posted a few photos to prove to you all how wonderful and magical this world of ours still is (from Tuscany, Provence and Tirol all the way to Japan and many other places in between) despite our sorrow, but it would have been way too much, it might have looked like a tourism offer LOL.


I'll try and wrap up this newest rambling of mine by going back a bit into the whole question of love, cause that's what this thread is all about, at the end of the day, right? I was thinking about the question what is love, and I came up with some answers. I am sure all of you can find similar meanings, if not in different lights and prisms. In my humble guess


LOVE IS............watching the sunset and remain in awe at the splendor of the clouds and the hues in the sky
LOVE IS.............a Saturday morning wearing nothing but a shirt of his and walking around the house
LOVE IS.............sitting around a coffetable with friends reminiscing about exams in school and the awful, dreadful teachers which had 'tortured' your youth
LOVE IS.............being welcomed by the dogs when returning home after a 3 day trip and see them react as if they hadn't seen you in years
LOVE IS............picking up stawberries from your garden and thanking God for providing you the chance to do that
LOVE IS............eating broccoli made by your mother in law for the first time although you do not like it
LOVE IS.............eating a bit of broccoli made by your mother in law the second time before honestly telling her that you actually hate it
LOVE IS.............playing cards with your folks and the rest of the family, enjoying your birthday cake while receiving endless calls from friends wishing you well
LOVE IS.............trying to mop the floor in the living room while the cat can't stop playing with the strands of fabric
LOVE IS.............denying your child a second piece of chocolate and risk their resentment for the moment, because you know that is a smaller price to pay then to see them hurt
LOVE IS............creating an awkward handmade birthday card for him made out of cinnamon rolls and dried flowers and have it look like the work of a 6 year old and him loving it nonetheless
LOVE IS............watching cartoons long after you have 'left' childhood behind and still laugh at the same scenes in Tom and Jerry as you did when you were a child
LOVE IS............having a picnic with him on a one tree hill, where you made the sandwhiches and he filled the rest of the basket with drinks, napkins and everything else
LOVE IS............attending Easter mass in church and feel your spirit sour at midnight when the darkness of the night is pierced by the light of the Resurrection circulating from one candle held by people to the next
LOVE IS............taking care of youself and presenting yourself before him as you did when you first saw him, not taking for granted his love and his needs
LOVE IS............raising your children teaching them that no matter how much beauty, money or social status they might have, they should never consider themselves better than anyone else
LOVE IS...........leaving behind a house you built with sweat and tears because you know home is where the heart is
LOVE IS...........looking in his eyes and see the same wonderful man you fell in love with even if now, after many decades, he snors like a horse (do horses even do that? Lol) or asks you for the 10000th time where the salt at in the kitchen; or perhaps he was snoring even at the beginning?

And for a little musical interlude LOVE IS.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmRJo8RQ5sA from the wonderful guys the Verve – a nice little piece of music - romantic, socially aware and with a bit of a spiritual seasoning on the side, just how I love my art.

Since today is Thankgiving day in Canada (not that I come from there, I know Ape does), I would still like to thank all of you for sharing your thoughts and kindness here and to ask your forgiveness if at times my ramblings or interventions have been out of place or utterly senseless. Today is also Columbus day – just think, had Isabel of Castille not given him the money needed for the travel, we might not have had the chance to sit across the ocean and exchange views LOL. PEACE and LOVE and good night folks. I have a feeling a lot of the cluelessness of my posts has to do with the fact that I find myself writing well into the wee hours of the morning.
 
I know this is inviting Ashtanga to feel once again, no, there was no one in his heart at all because if there were he would have been with her.

I just want to add that in the end, it still all amounts to a dream. A love lived in song, and in what amounts to what Ashtanga ( ;) ) would refer to as, an imaginary dream.


The songs of Michael show feelings and love that he wanted to live in truth, but he only lived and felt in their songs. A dream imagery (such as SOS said :cheeky:) that he would like to live in the future. If two people truly love each other unconditionally and why not stay together? What could or would prevent this? If true love overcomes everything in life, there is no why to be afraid to live this love, be happy forever and unconditionally loved by this woman. And if that did not happen is because there really was not a true love and it was not the right person to stand next to Michael. When this happens, God takes our way what is bad and will harm us. :yes: I'm very realistic. Michael never had good people in your life. He was always surrounded by bad people. This is a proven fact. And I always felt that he always had difficulty in dealing with people: to have confidence. For him and for any celebrity is always so difficult to trust and believe in the people around you. How to make absolutely sure that these people are being truthful? If this is already so difficult in a professional relationship which always involves a lot of money, imagine the relationship between man and woman or a marriage. Michael has always had great experiences with people throughout his life and when it comes to a relationship, I'm sure that most attention was not only himself, but mainly by their children. Why but love Michael, she would have to also love their children. Why the love for him (relationship / marriage) was never a game, entertainment or any kind of joke. Feelings and especially love have always had a great value for Michael. The word L.O.V.E. means is a lot to Michael and why we saw the trailer for the movie "This is it" he paying attention to that word spelling. Why does love (true - it is always very important to stress that. lol!) Is the greatest feeling that drives everything in our lives. Love is the essence. http://translate.google.com/translate_s?hl=pt-BR&source=translation_link
He would not want a woman just for fun from time to time with her. He wanted a real woman who loved him, unconditionally respected, understood and that was always at his side at all times of your life (good and bad). And they have a lover, friend, wife, girlfriend... was also a "mother" wonderful for your children to give them lots of love.

So, Michael never wanted and did not want just a "girlfriend" but a special woman (especially as it) to be his wife for the rest of his life. After all, I believe that with so much experience in life and I'm sure that as in his career he has always been very demanding of people. Michael would not be just flirting, flirting and flirting with her, he would MARRY that special woman. Then, in the midst of so many women around him, he never managed to find that special woman. No matter who it is (race, origin, age, rich or poor, famous or anonymous, not a fan or a fan...), he only cared for one thing: that love him, unconditionally respected, unconditional maternal love their children and I can not forget something very important : ALWAYS be honest with him. As I always say a female version of Michael Jackson. lol! :D:wub:

That's how I see and I'm sure this was also the view of Michael. :yes: Because I know that he just wanted an adventure and fun loving. He wanted to marry, to be loved and happy that their children will be loved by this woman, that woman respected and understood that she would never judge him, she shared with him the good times and bad. He wanted to grow old next to that woman. He wanted a real woman and strong as it ever was in life. But he never found. He never managed to find a woman that had these characteristics and qualities that really touched your heart and your soul with true love. Michael's love for this woman would have to be FOREVER. For Michael Jackson, has to be very, very, very special. She would have to be "The Woman". :wild: :wub:

I've written too much. Sorry for the size of my post. I'm always very excited when it comes to Michael Jackson... especially when it comes to love. :wub:


But I want to finish my post in style. With two pictures from my archive. But these pictures are very special, why are my favorite and portray the beauty of Michael. :wub:


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LOVE IS............watching the sunset and remain in awe at the splendor of the clouds and the hues in the sky
LOVE IS.............a Saturday morning wearing nothing but a shirt of his and walking around the house
LOVE IS.............sitting around a coffetable with friends reminiscing about exams in school and the awful, dreadful teachers which had 'tortured' your youth
LOVE IS.............being welcomed by the dogs when returning home after a 3 day trip and see them react as if they hadn't seen you in years
LOVE IS............picking up stawberries from your garden and thanking God for providing you the chance to do that
LOVE IS............eating broccoli made by your mother in law for the first time although you do not like it
LOVE IS.............eating a bit of broccoli made by your mother in law the second time before honestly telling her that you actually hate it
LOVE IS.............playing cards with your folks and the rest of the family, enjoying your birthday cake while receiving endless calls from friends wishing you well
LOVE IS.............trying to mop the floor in the living room while the cat can't stop playing with the strands of fabric
LOVE IS.............denying your child a second piece of chocolate and risk their resentment for the moment, because you know that is a smaller price to pay then to see them hurt
LOVE IS............creating an awkward handmade birthday card for him made out of cinnamon rolls and dried flowers and have it look like the work of a 6 year old and him loving it nonetheless
LOVE IS............watching cartoons long after you have 'left' childhood behind and still laugh at the same scenes in Tom and Jerry as you did when you were a child
LOVE IS............having a picnic with him on a one tree hill, where you made the sandwhiches and he filled the rest of the basket with drinks, napkins and everything else
LOVE IS............attending Easter mass in church and feel your spirit sour at midnight when the darkness of the night is pierced by the light of the Resurrection circulating from one candle held by people to the next
LOVE IS............taking care of youself and presenting yourself before him as you did when you first saw him, not taking for granted his love and his needs
LOVE IS............raising your children teaching them that no matter how much beauty, money or social status they might have, they should never consider themselves better than anyone else
LOVE IS...........leaving behind a house you built with sweat and tears because you know home is where the heart is
LOVE IS...........looking in his eyes and see the same wonderful man you fell in love with even if now, after many decades, he snors like a horse (do horses even do that? Lol) or asks you for the 10000th time where the salt at in the kitchen; or perhaps he was snoring even at the beginning?
:clapping: :wild: It was so beautiful and true... I loved it! :wub:




A long time is right. I dusted off my cassette tape vault (really it's a storage box) :lol: and I do have one of her albums. It's the self-titled one which I think was her first so it doesn't have this particular song on it. :)

I liked this version (if even that song) sung by Safire. Yes, but what it indicates is that this music was stored. Why it was recorded in Mijac in 1980 and so has the vocals of the brothers. :)



Ok ladies, who's got the key????? lol.....sorry I'm a silly sleepy right now. lol

Well, I've been searching tirelessly for that key. lol! :wild: But I never found... :(
 
queen_g that is a beautiful thought and of course, only God's will, will decide

Shabuya
thanks for posting that and for the kudo. I'm going to save your post. I really like it. Thanks again.

and I agree with this highlighted part. I don't think 43 seconds(4+3=7 :huh:)
:lol: wow great catch! another 7! :giggle: that is a hoot


I wonder if Michael chose his brothers to sing background? at least on MJ.com website it says they do. hmmmmm.
Do you mean you wonder whether it was his idea or Kenny's? hm. I vote for MJ on that one.


What about that thread in GD about him being in-love with the video girl(s)?.....Maybe that's MJ's LITD?
Well, they have a fairly extensive history of knowing eachother. From the way I understand it, she was there in Ghosts in 2000, and was there in 2003 to coordinate guests for the party held for him at Neverland by his celeb friends, and he went through the trial seemingly without any female at his side (although that's not a guarantee), then he musically released Fall Again, and The Way You Love Me (all about "you'll see" implying future person he's never touched), and according to Firpo Carr MJ contacted her "when he returned from the Middle East" (vs. taking her with him?) in 2006, then in late 2006 she happened to move to Vegas and they happened to run into eachother which if true means they obviously weren't together, they were scheduled to meet on June 26th after she kept putting it off ... um...my take on it? ... a love? maybe. The LITD? um not imho.


What I find interesting is MJ would say the lyrics came from somewhere else, they were sent from God? True love is also a gift brought into our life by God or something/someone greater than ourself. Maybe God or something/someone higher was having MJ go through all these emotions throughout the years so when the day finally came he was able to recognize that it really is TRUE and that it is REAL? We all are taught lessons or given tests throughout life. Could be since music is MJ's calling that's how the lessons of love were taught to him over the years, he was being prepared for the day "she" would come into his life. :)
I agree and what a sweet way to put it. :)



What kind of experience :blink: :unsure: lol..and there's "not able to touch" again like Justus and Victoria previously posted something about "touch". I have to go back and read all that again, it's not processing in my sleepyhead at the moment dang it. :yawn: LOL
There are a lot of ways a person can 'experience' another person without there being any more to it than an experience. Let me count the ways ... u know what i mean?

My uncle 'experienced' the girl he'd been in love with in high school ... he got to carry her books one time ... watching her leave the house every day ... dang near knocking her over as he barrelled around the corner on his bike ... :lol:

ya know?

If two people truly love each other unconditionally and why not stay together? What could or would prevent this? If true love overcomes everything in life, there is no why to be afraid to live this love, be happy forever?
Ash as I was just trying to illustrate by telling the story of my uncle, and there are so many others, life is not always as simple as all that. You can see Michael attracted a lot of really bad people into his life.

Whatever the energy was that was pulling all those bad people into his world, was also probably the same energy that prevented the light of pure love from landing simply and comfortably into his life. It could also explain his reluctance to bring someone into that situation, as he himself was terrified and the largeness of the money involved probably kept the situation continually complex and complicated.

Life is not always as simple as we would like to make it sometimes and Michael's life has been anything but.
 
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:lol: wow great catch! another 7! :giggle: that is a hoot

We're just all full of surprises here. Things popping up around every corner in the LITD thread. :cheeky: Gotta LOVE dreams, hope, imagination.....lol

Do you mean you wonder whether it was his idea or Kenny's? hm. I vote for MJ on that one.

Even if the recording of this particular song was recent do you think he would have had his brothers singing the background? It may be possible. Who knows. What I'd be disappointed to find out is that Sony in some way has manipulated what Michael originally created to what they want.

Just my random thought I guess.....

I agree and what a sweet way to put it. :)

Thank you :flowers:

There are a lot of ways a person can 'experience' another person without there being any more to it than an experience. Let me count the ways ... u know what i mean?

Yes, I get it :swoon: LOL.

Seems this "experience" was a lasting one and stuck with him. "She" must have been something special to leave that kind of impression. Very sweet. :girl_in_love:
 
Ash as I was just trying to illustrate by telling the story of my uncle, and there are so many others, life is not always as simple as all that. You can see Michael attracted a lot of really bad people into his life.

Whatever the energy was that was pulling all those bad people into his world, was also probably the same energy that prevented the light of pure love from landing simply and comfortably into his life. It could also explain his reluctance to bring someone into that situation, as he himself was terrified and the largeness of the money involved probably kept the situation continually complex and complicated.

Life is not always as simple as we would like to make it sometimes and Michael's life has been anything but.

:agree: Ok.

Now I'll explain my thoughts on it. I know you will understand me (but I'm sure it will not agree with me. lol! :wild:). Kidding! :D



But I KNOW that nothing in life is simple and especially the life of Michael. I know this whole scene of Michael's life that you reported. Everyone knows. What I'm saying is that because the love overcomes all, nothing would prevent him from this love happen. So I said that she would have to be "The Woman" to stand next to Michael. Because I know that his life was never simple. She'd have to really truly love him to face life with him. Being a woman really very, very, very strong at all times. Even though the time was not ripe for love, even if Michael did not want to welcome the love that moment of your life, everyone knows that no one tells the heart. It is very important to remember that a relationship will never be always full of moments of joy, love and happiness, there are bad times and this is the best proof to show how this love is real and strong. Why is it in bad times you know what is real and fake around them.

And love just happens when we least expect when you enter on our way to the RIGHT person that both seek. Love comes without warning, without the year, day, time and location marked. And if suddenly in the midst of all that Michael found the true love he sought and both fall in love and she also felt that true love for him and matched him? How could he do? He would run away? He would run away, showing disdain for this woman's true love for him, unaware that he was really feeling the love for this woman, he would close his heart to prevent the entry of that love and stop being truly happy and loved? Sometimes when we think it's the wrong time for certain things happen, it is often the opposite. When this happens is that that is the right moment to happen. And God always does the right things and is always for our good. God always challenges and there is no escape. Remember that NOTHING in life happens as planned. We can plan some things in our lives, but at some point things change the way something goes wrong and things do not happen as planned. Everything happens unexpectedly when you least expect it and is not (and NEVER will be) different with love. :)
 
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MY goodness gracious...Ladies & Gents there has been allot posted these last 3 or 4 days...


My take on love/true love:


Christianity

The Christian understanding is that love comes from God. The love of man and woman—eros in Greek—and the unselfish love of others (agape), are often contrasted as "ascending" and "descending" love, respectively, but are ultimately the same thing.[16]



There are several Greek words for "love" that are regularly referred to in Christian circles.

  • Agape: In the New Testament, agapē is charitable, selfless, altruistic, and unconditional. It is parental love, seen as creating goodness in the world; it is the way God is seen to love humanity, and it is seen as the kind of love that Christians aspire to have for one another.
  • Phileo: Also used in the New Testament, phileo is a human response to something that is found to be delightful. Also known as "brotherly love."
  • Two other words for love in the Greek language, eros (sexual love) and storge (child-to-parent love), were never used in the New Testament.
Christians believe that to Love God with all your heart, mind, and strength and Love your neighbor as yourself are the two most important things in life (the greatest commandment of the Jewish Torah, according to Jesus; cf. Gospel of Mark chapter 12, verses 28–34). Saint Augustine summarized this when he wrote "Love God, and do as thou wilt."


The Apostle Paul glorified love as the most important virtue of all. Describing love in the famous poem in 1 Corinthians, he wrote, "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, and always perseveres." (1 Cor. 13:4–7, NIV)


The Apostle John wrote, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."



(John 3:16–18, NIV)
John also wrote, "Dear friends, let us love one another for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7–8, NIV)


Saint Augustine says that one must be able to decipher the difference between love and lust. Lust, according to Saint Augustine, is an overindulgence, but to love and be loved is what he has sought for his entire life. He even says, “I was in love with love.” Finally, he does fall in love and is loved back, by God. Saint Augustine says the only one who can love you truly and fully is God, because love with a human only allows for flaws such as “jealousy, suspicion, fear, anger, and contention.” According to Saint Augustine, to love God is “to attain the peace which is yours.” (Saint Augustine's Confessions)


Christian theologians see God as the source of love, which is mirrored in humans and their own loving relationships. Influential Christian theologian C.S. Lewis wrote a book called The Four Loves.


Benedict XVI wrote his first encyclical on "God is love." He said that a human being, created in the image of God, who is love, is able to practice love; to give himself to God and others (agape) and by receiving and experiencing God's love in contemplation (eros). This life of love, according to him, is the life of the saints such as Teresa of Calcutta and the Blessed Virgin Mary and is the direction Christians take when they believe that God loves them.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love#cite_note-vatican1-15
Source: Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love#cite_note-vatican1-15
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Yes! It's never too late to make things happen. :cheeky:

Yeah, yeah!!! You're right!!! :yes:

P.S.: You all write a lot and I'm totally lost here! :lol: I can hardly understand the "Portuguese" much less I can understand the "English"! :lmao: Would it be nice if you write a little in "portuguese"! :lol:
 
:wild: :D


Hey, you were missing out. lol! :yes: I'm glad you came back. :dancin:

Run... you have a lot to read here. :wild:


Thanx!!!

Yes i have a lot 2 read.....and i hate when that happens!! :lol:
 
Yeah, yeah!!! You're right!!! :yes:

P.S.: You all write a lot and I'm totally lost here! :lol: I can hardly understand the "Portuguese" much less I can understand the "English"! :lmao: Would it be nice if you write a little in "portuguese"! :lol:
:doh: It had to be Brazilian... lol! :wild:

Hey, if I write in Portuguese no one here will understand me! lol! :wild:



Thanx!!!

Yes i have a lot 2 read.....and i hate when that happens!! :lol:
:wild: :wild: :wild:
 
We're just all full of surprises here. Things popping up around every corner in the LITD thread. :cheeky: Gotta LOVE dreams, hope, imagination.....lol
So true. :) All power to the imagination!


Even if the recording of this particular song was recent do you think he would have had his brothers singing the background? It may be possible. Who knows. What I'd be disappointed to find out is that Sony in some way has manipulated what Michael originally created to what they want.

Just my random thought I guess.....
I don't know why not. There was all that back & forth about him working with the brothers so this could have been some sort of answer to that whole problem perhaps?



Yes, I get it :swoon: LOL.
um :scratch: not quite sure why you fainted :giggle: unless maybe it meant, "are you kidding!??" kind of thing LOL

Seems this "experience" was a lasting one and stuck with him. "She" must have been something special to leave that kind of impression. Very sweet. :girl_in_love:
I guess it was either very sweet or very strange, or very tragic or just very sad ... or what ... still trying to figure that one out.

You all write a lot and I'm totally lost here! :lol: I can hardly understand the "Portuguese" much less I can understand the "English"! :lmao: Would it be nice if you write a little in "portuguese"! :lol:
oh ok tha why suuuuuure! See it was like this, um ... Miquel compor amor en trevas todavia esperando por sue mesmo que tempo nem suficiente

Well, that's pretty much it in a nutshell! :D


:toofunny: sometimes I crak me up!

:giggle:

MP you and queen_g are thinking along the same lines I see! Keeping hope alive! Love does hope all things now doesn't it. :)

8701girl :yes: you have a lot of catching up to do and good 2 c u!
 
Can i just skip the reading...pretty please????

I'll give you the DMJFLITD cliff notes.....:cheeky: LOL

"It's all about LOVE L.O.V.E." :heart:

um :scratch: not quite sure why you fainted :giggle: unless maybe it meant, "are you kidding!??" kind of thing LOL

It was one of those "this isn't that difficult to understand Lily" and "I get it now reactions" LOL I'm just slow sometimes, especially when I'm sleepy. LOL
 
Maybe....just maybe...that lasting experience, that stuck with him, that was either very sweet, strange, or very [near] tragic...

is that MJ, dang near, knocked her over by almost running over her in his car while driving!!! That would leave a lasting impression on the both of them, wouldn't it? And we HAVE ALL heard stories about his driving...

Not so very far-fetched. :no:

Sounds like love to me.

OMG :eek:

Good night ladies, I've got a couple Cinderella movies to watch on tv. :girl_in_love: See you soon. :)
 
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I'm trying for hours to read all the posts since my last visit here... and OMG! you all write a lot... :wild: but everything has a special meaning for me ... so I can't stop reading all!:blush:

I would like to give many quotes here .. but this could get boring and long and I may run the risk of talk nonsense! :giggle:

But I see that the predominant subject it's love! wow! I love talking about the LOVE that is so complex and often we haven't a precise concept...


Well .. as to whether there was or not a woman in Michael's life, I have a opinion, although all may disagree and I respect ..
No doubt Michael has a poetic soul, which makes me believe that he uses music to verbalize the love and perhaps an idealized woman, who can admire and be proud ... a heroine perhaps?! (we know idealizations cause disappointments) ... I wish he had found true love and real someone and not just a personification of their inner feelings... :wub:

But as the MP posted earlier:
"Perhaps it is still yet to happen. God's delays are not necessarily His denials."

God knows what is the best for each one of us, and I sure that He is preparing something very good ... To God NOTHING is impossible .. But it is up to us to realize and welcoming His messages and His small signs! :smilerolleyes:

PS: I'm sorry if I left the subject, I think that while I typed this post, ten had already been published! :lol:
 
Oh geez I have so many pages to look through. You all have been busy!!!

ANd Victoria thank you for letting everyone know what happened the other day (or was it yesterday? I don't know. Time is irrelevant.). Anyway, thank you. I hope things get better with that whole mess.

Hopefully I'll get to respond more?? I don't know.
 
Yes, hope springs eternal when you are like me and a little :crazy:)

The hope is eternal like the ability to love! Where there is love there is hope!

I already don't know if the things that I think make sense! :unsure:


Doesn't need to make sense! :cheeky: Just believe ... And wait ... And, the more God will do! Or we'll going crazy together!? :smilerolleyes: :cheeky:
 
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