Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

tha,

I hope you are alright. I understand your feelings. I will include you in my prayers tonight.

Thanks, honey! It makes me feel good!

Look at how fast God Works!!! You have a happy face smile. And we posted at the same time!

I'm trying to be fine! And no matters how difficult it could be, I'll never give up the fight, I'll go the distance! ;) "Disembosom" helps a lot!

And yes....we posted at the same time! ^_^

One more time, thanks!

God Bless You! :angel:
 
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God only gives us as much as he knows what we can handle...He will give us the strength, guidance, courage, and the tools to overcome the wicked to achieve their rules..!"

I have experienced enough things in my life to truly believe in the power and might that comes from what we reap is what we truly sow..!

Thank You for your very kind words...

This woman has the patience of a Saint..and the strength of a Bull...Giggles~~~

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~


I went through many terrible things in my life too. Sometimes it looks like a movie to me and I was in this movie by mistake.
And I always think about Michael. I think God gave him too much. I do not know
how he could handle it. It is just too much for one person.
 
I went through many terrible things in my life too. Sometimes it looks like a movie to me and I was in this movie by mistake.
And I always think about Michael. I think God gave him too much. I do not know
how he could handle it. It is just too much for one person.


God gives us the cross with the weight and size that we can carry! Michael goes through all these things in life because God knows he can handle, he can overcome! I'd like that his life was a highway of clouds, to that he could walk softly, but without such tests of God in his life, he would not be the man he is today!
Everything has a reason to happen, nothing is an accident or punishment, is just our destiny! ;)
 
OH my God, do you see what I see? Could Michael have answered our longing question?

imo Moddie, I don't think she is it. I think she wants to be it. I also don't see what her motives are for all of that. This is the largest MJ website in the world. All the people she speaks of giving info to are already here viewing it for themself, this place is full of moles, and besides that, that website has already made contact with the press to get their message out. imo Like so many others we've seen, I think people seek opportunities and there's something else behind her behavior. I don't get why she feels the need to put out a press release either, but maybe that's just me. :mello: Oh well, I could be wrong, I'm just going to keep minding my own. :)

I'm kinda sick these days and I think my disease is beyond anything clinical! :worried:
I have different beliefs from you about the "death" of Michael, but these days there is a hole in my soul! :( I feel very strange and I don't know how to explain! At the same time I feel very close to Michael, I feel very far! :(
I'm so lonely and the only person who could help me, can not do this or just don't want do it! :(

Sorry for those words! I don't want to bother anyone with it, but I have to let my pain go away a little from inside! Keep it so for me, suffocated me and sickens me more!

Being "the clown" at times makes me tired and even if I try always leave a hidden sadness behind the smile, it's hard!

*HUG* Tha, I know the feeling, especially the highlighted part I'm always the "strong one" that EVERYONE turns to in my life, always happy, optimistic, helpful and there for everyone, but I'm very tired lately and really wish I were invisible sometimes. -_- Oh well, painting and reading all weekend has been great relaxation and mind therapy for me, as well as distancing myself from being online here.....

A quote we should all keep in our heart.....

"When the world says give up, hope whispers one more time"

I hope you feel better soon. :flowers:

Goodnight everyone. :)
 
*HUG* Tha, I know the feeling, especially the highlighted part I'm always the "strong one" that EVERYONE turns to in my life, always happy, optimistic, helpful and there for everyone, but I'm very tired lately and really wish I were invisible sometimes. -_- Oh well, painting and reading all weekend has been great relaxation and mind therapy for me, as well as distancing myself from being online here.....

Be invisible would be a great idea! :worried:

A quote we should all keep in our heart.....

"When the world says give up, hope whispers one more time"

This is perfect, Lilly! :)

I hope you feel better soon. :flowers:

Thanks, honey! I'm trying....and I'll be fine! Thanks, thanks, thanks! Just because you read my "outburst" has been of great help! :flowers:

Goodnight everyone. :)

Goodnight! ;)




And people.....I wrote in a post that "The Brazilian Gang is Back" but it is untrue! We need Ash to complete the gang, so Ash.....we're waiting for you! ^_^
 
Everything has a reason to happen, nothing is an accident or punishment, is just our destiny! ;)

I wish to believe in it very badly. But I get a bit skeptical . Sometimes it looks like the universe works like a big gambling machine, somebody wins, somebody loses.
 
Brazilian ppl always look happy to me. I love it LOL :)

aww :hug:

Thanks Lully for acknowledging the post. I'm afraid I don't have anything further to say about it. I think without spoken words, Michael's spirit with the help of a higher being have said it all.

It can be interpreted in anyway depending upon the different level(s) of understanding each of us have with what we individually see as clues from Michael.

It's Truth, I agree :yes:
Your posts are very interesting!

Originally Posted by Lily
A quote we should all keep in our heart.....

"When the world says give up, hope whispers one more time"

so beautiful :wub:
:hug: Lily, you are not alone, I'm here with you too!

And people.....I wrote in a post that "The Brazilian Gang is Back" but it is untrue! We need Ash to complete the gang, so Ash.....we're waiting for you! ^_^

:lol: It's true! Ash just lack you!
 
I wish to believe in it very badly. But I get a bit skeptical . Sometimes it looks like the universe works like a big gambling machine, somebody wins, somebody loses.


Your so right there :yes:
 
I wish to believe in it very badly. But I get a bit skeptical . Sometimes it looks like the universe works like a big gambling machine, somebody wins, somebody loses.

I know the difficulties make us somewhat discredited, but you need don't think so, no! There aren't loses in life! We are all winners! :yes:

The lyrics of this song always makes me feel better! So, I hope it makes the same with you:

WELCOME TO WHEREVER YOU ARE - Bon Jovi

Maybe we're all different but we're still the same
We all got the blood of Eden running through our veins
I know sometimes it's hard for you to see
You're caught between just who you are and who you want to be

If you feel alone and lost and need a friend
Remember every new beginning is some beginning's end

Welcome to wherever you are
This is your life; you made it this far
Welcome, you got to believe
That right here, right now
You're exactly where you're supposed to be
Welcome to wherever you are

When everybody's in and you're left out
And you feel you're drowning in the shadow of a doubt
Everyone's a miracle in their own way
Just listen to yourself, not what other people say

When it's seems you're lost, alone and feeling down
Remember everybody's different; just take a look around

Welcome to wherever you are
This is your life; you made it this far
Welcome, you got to believe
Right here, right now
You're exactly where you're supposed to be

Be who you want to be
Be who you are
Everyone's a hero
Everyone's a star

When you want to give up and your heart's about to break
Remember that you're perfect; God makes no mistakes



:wub:
 
Your post sounds kind of judgmental to me. I am not taking your joy away from you and I promise I am not going to discuss TII movie here with anybody. For TII movie MJJC has a different forum also. As far as I know this thread was about MJ personal relationship with “her” and his dialogues from rabbi’s book perfectly fit in this discussion. If you found my posts are not interesting just do not answer, ignore them. I do not know why you trying to make such a big deal of it? I guess my personal points of view, some moral aspects and my explanation why I got this book bother you more than anything else. I do not know why, but whatever…. This is it.
Speaking of "This Is It," some months ago Summer ran across the following from an interview that Michael did with TV Guide. He did this interview a couple of years before releasing his "Invincible" CD.

TV Guide: Do you think you'll marry again?

Michael: That would be nice.

TV Guide: What would make the third time the charm?

Michael: It just has to hit me. You have to see that person and go, "This is it. This is the one."

What Michael said in this interview contradicts what the Rabbi said about the pure love he gets from children being all that he really needs and he doesn’t want any other love and romance in his life.

Michael said getting married again would have been nice. Isn't romance a part of marriage, Asedora?

Also, the song that has been recently brought forth...although it is being said that the executors picked it... it still falls right in place with the type of songs that Michael has been releasing from 2003 on up to just recently about being in love. This song that he registered with BMI under the title "I Never Heard" not only repeats the words this is it, but it also says "Falling in love wasn't my plan" and this line reiterates the answer that he gave the interviewer when asked what would make the third time a charm.

The name for Michael's concert is "This Is It" and it is very interesting to see that the song that was chosen to be released with these particular words ended up being a love song.

It is also interesting that what Michael said about getting married again contradicts the Rabbi.
 
Shabuya :hug:

Thank you for feel miss the Brazilian gang! lol In this moment I must confess that I'm feel important! :king2: *play* :laugh:

Of course I can send you the link by PM will do that now. Michael's quote are very
interesting...



WOW Thanks for posting this song, the Alexandre Pires voice's very beautiful and he's a very... *laughs* you know... lol :D
Speaking in duets with brasilian, yesterday I was watching a program national (watch TV isn't really my habit, I prefer Disney movies... remembered the Lily now lol) and saw this song Entreolhares (The Way You're Looking At Me) by Ana Carolina and John Legend... gorgeous song... :blush: if you want listen this song here is the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnZ0JBp4wWE&feature=related

Sdeidjs, Congratulations and thanks for sharing us! You should be proud of all that lived and went out victorious! His life experience is an courage example. You're really amazing woman. :give_rose:

Moddie777 I'm anxious to see what you have to say us! :yes:

PS: Besides Ash and Tha, I'm feeling miss of Linda and MP in this discussion :mellow:

Awwe...golly gee willickers...Thank You for all your very kind words...

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Speaking of "This Is It," some months ago Summer ran across the following from an interview that Michael did with TV Guide. He did this interview a couple of years before releasing his "Invincible" CD.

TV Guide: Do you think you'll marry again?

Michael: That would be nice.

TV Guide: What would make the third time the charm?

Michael: It just has to hit me. You have to see that person and go, "This is it. This is the one."

What Michael said in this interview contradicts what the Rabbi said about the pure love he gets from children being all that he really needs and he doesn’t want any other love and romance in his life.

Michael said getting married again would have been nice. Isn't romance a part of marriage, Asedora?

Also, the song that has been recently brought forth...although it is being said that the executors picked it... it still falls right in place with the type of songs that Michael has been releasing from 2003 on up to just recently about being in love. This song that he registered with BMI under the title "I Never Heard" not only repeats the words this is it, but it also says "Falling in love wasn't my plan" and this line reiterates the answer that he gave the interviewer when asked what would make the third time a charm.

The name for Michael's concert is "This Is It" and it is very interesting to see that the song that was chosen to be released with these particular words ended up being a love song.

It is also interesting that what Michael said about getting married again contradicts the Rabbi.

:rolleyes2:
 
I wish to believe in it very badly. But I get a bit skeptical . Sometimes it looks like the universe works like a big gambling machine, somebody wins, somebody loses.

In a way is how things work, but we have believe that everything God does is for our good! Believe, we learn much more with the difficult times we spent. Real proof of this is Michael, how many difficulties he faced and all he came out victorious! I think If God did not showed a love until now, is because He is preparing something bigger for Michael.:)
 
Hello! :popout:

I've been following the posts of you and I'm enjoying it! You always have points of view very interesting, the words of you are deep, so deep that I really feel touched by that!
I confess I was surprised to have been noticed my absence! :wub: Thanks!!! ;)

I'm kinda sick these days and I think my disease is beyond anything clinical! :worried:
I have different beliefs from you about the "death" of Michael, but
these days there is a hole in my soul!
:( I feel very strange and I don't know how to explain! At the same time I feel very close to Michael, I feel very far! :(
I'm so lonely and the only person who could help me, can not do this or just don't want do it! :(

Sorry for those words! I don't want to bother anyone with it, but I have to let my pain go away a little from inside! Keep it so for me, suffocated me and sickens me more!

Being "the clown" at times makes me tired and even if I try always leave a hidden sadness behind the smile, it's hard!
And that reminds me of the song "The Tears Of A Clown" by Smokey Robinson that a very special person "submitted" it for me! :closedeyes:

Again, sorry for this! :(

I like you all people! I really like! And, Lully, you know how special you are to me! :wub:

Anyway....The Gang Brazilian is back! ;)

A gift of sunshine for you...hope this helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tknUDdD9zCo

as Mr.Jackson always says..."Always Keep The Faith"

:angel:Our Children Are The Future...Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
I went through many terrible things in my life too. Sometimes it looks like a movie to me and I was in this movie by mistake.
And I always think about Michael. I think God gave him too much. I do not know
how he could handle it. It is just too much for one person.

When one (s) has always had God by their side...There is NO STOPPING US..!

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
God gives us the cross with the weight and size that we can carry! Michael goes through all these things in life because God knows he can handle, he can overcome! I'd like that his life was a highway of clouds, to that he could walk softly, but without such tests of God in his life, he would not be the man he is today!
Everything has a reason to happen, nothing is an accident or punishment, is just our destiny! ;)


:punk:

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
A gift of sunshine for you...hope this helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tknUDdD9zCo

as Mr.Jackson always says..."Always Keep The Faith"

:angel:Our Children Are The Future...Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~

Oh, my dear! Your songs always makes me feel well!!! I loved it! Thanks!
God Bless You! :angel:

AllForMJ, what are your impressions of the This Is It song? Do you think it sounds like a "gentle goodbye" to someone, or like I read it described somewhere today, that it has a "lovesick" feel to it, or do you think it sounds like there is optimism going on, or talking outloud trying to work out "confusion?"

What are your thoughts? Would you like to share? Or are you not there yet? :)

Do you believe that I not have one opinion about the "This Is It" yet?! :p Actually, I'm increasingly confused about this song! :scratch:
 
Speaking of "This Is It," some months ago Summer ran across the following from an interview that Michael did with TV Guide. He did this interview a couple of years before releasing his "Invincible" CD.

TV Guide: Do you think you'll marry again?

Michael: That would be nice.

TV Guide: What would make the third time the charm?

Michael: It just has to hit me. You have to see that person and go, "This is it. This is the one."

What Michael said in this interview contradicts what the Rabbi said about the pure love he gets from children being all that he really needs and he doesn’t want any other love and romance in his life.

Michael said getting married again would have been nice. Isn't romance a part of marriage, Asedora?

Also, the song that has been recently brought forth...although it is being said that the executors picked it... it still falls right in place with the type of songs that Michael has been releasing from 2003 on up to just recently about being in love. This song that he registered with BMI under the title "I Never Heard" not only repeats the words this is it, but it also says "Falling in love wasn't my plan" and this line reiterates the answer that he gave the interviewer when asked what would make the third time a charm.

The name for Michael's concert is "This Is It" and it is very interesting to see that the song that was chosen to be released with these particular words ended up being a love song.

It is also interesting that what Michael said about getting married again contradicts the Rabbi.

Rabbi didn't say anything about it, he just asked MJ what he thinks about love and romance. Michael said it HIMSELF that he gets pure love from children and
he doesn't need anything else. Also he said that he is in love with innocence.

Besides, Michael said that he truly loves his fans and feels love he gets from them.
What you posted is interesting, but it was not a private dialogue, it was not a confession sort of.

I really want to know why Michael choose to call his final tour "This is it" Maybe it was related to this song? But again, everybody understands the lyrics of this song very different.
From my point of view, this lyrics doesn't have indication that he was in love with somebody.
It is a mystery, that they released it after his death. And it is even bigger mystery that
it was recorded as a duet but just his voice, his piano accompaniment and different lyrics appeared on the original tape they found. Then they adjusted it in studio to make it sound like orchestra version etc. The original tape had just his voice and piano, nothing else. Few pages back, I posted a link about it.


PS. I would never put one single rabbi word into this thread.
 
In a way is how things work, but we have believe that everything God does is for our good! Believe, we learn much more with the difficult times we spent. Real proof of this is Michael, how many difficulties he faced and all he came out victorious! I think If God did not showed a love until now, is because He is preparing something bigger for Michael.:)

I wish to believe it. I wish God will take care of Michael. And not just of Michael of every person who suffered trough their lives in this Earth. It just so sad sometimes to see what some ppl are going trough. And if it is nothing after, I am OK with this too. I have to accept whatever comes. If it is nothing after, then nothing really matters. It is even easier that way. One thing is clear, nobody stays here forever. It makes us equal at this point, rich and poor, sick and healthy etc.
But yes, I believe in God. There is nothing else to believe in. I believe that everything has been created and nothing comes from chaos. I do not believe that DNA and everythig cames from something disorganized, complete mess.

“I gave you life of spirit in the place of wind and water” – this was written in one Egyptian manuscript.
 
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I think when we read or interpret things that are said in interviews or lyrics to songs we should also keep in mind that sometimes we as people say things or react a certain way one day and those thoughts, feelings, wishes may change another day, depending on mood, whomever we may be speaking to, environment we're in, life experiences, etc...time changes us.....I think MJ was very honest in both things he said, he has his babies, his pure love and true happiness from his children, maybe that is all he felt he needed. But it seems he also knew that if something else like true love came into his life he would just have to know, this is it, and he kept himself open to that as well. imo I think when he was being spoken to in both of the examples given it was moreso about what he may have been feeling at a particular moment in time. I just don't see him closing himself off to love on any level, if anything he was quite open to it imo.

Oh well, jmo. :)


“I gave you life of spirit in the place of wind and water” – this was written in one Egyptian manuscript.

This is beautiful, thanks for posting it. :)
 
I think everybody will be very interested in this:

1.
Speaking of "This Is It," some months ago Summer ran across the following from an interview that Michael did with TV Guide. He did this interview a couple of years before releasing his "Invincible" CD.

TV Guide: Do you think you'll marry again?

Michael: That would be nice.

TV Guide: What would make the third time the charm?

Michael: It just has to hit me. You have to see that person and go, "This is it. This is the one."

2.
From Kenny Ortega recent interview:

How did that project come about?
For two years, Michael and I had been discussing, day-dreaming and lunching on potential ideas. And then one day I got a telephone call from him and he said “This is it, this is the one.” This was going to be his final curtain call. Together we invited artists from all around the world to join us – he inspired all of us to think outside of the box and to take the journey with him.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79722
 
Oh, my dear!
Your songs always makes me feel well!!! I loved it! Thanks!
God Bless You! :angel:


Do you believe that I not have one opinion about the "This Is It" yet?! :p Actually, I'm increasingly confused about this song! :scratch:

:better:

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Interesting catch Asedora.

And both statements were at different stages in his life, several years apart, yet that message stayed the same, but did the meaning as well? Timing is interesting isn't it. :)
 
I was researching some interesting scientific facts and came across this information that may fit into the BIG picture of this thread...

Yes, I am a bit deep at times...but...like my "very best friend" always told me...its always good to look outside the box and evaluate the knowledge that has always been right in front of us...

Binary star

A binary star is a star system consisting of two stars orbiting around their common center of mass. The brighter star is called the primary and the other is its companion star, comes,or secondary.

Binary star systems are very important in astrophysics because calculations of their orbits allow the masses of their component stars to be directly determined, which in turn allows other stellar parameters, such as radius and density, to be indirectly estimated. This also determines an empirical mass-luminosity relationship (MLR) from which the masses of single stars can be estimated.

Binary stars are often detected optically, in which case they are called visual binaries. Many visual binaries have long orbital periods of several centuries or millennia and therefore have orbits which are uncertain.

If a binary star happens to orbit in a plane along our line of sight, its components will mutually eclipse and transit each other; these pairs are called eclipsing binaries, or, as they are detected by their changes in brightness during eclipses and transits, photometric binaries.

The term binary was first used in this context by Sir William Herschel in 1802, when he wrote:

"If, on the contrary, two stars should really be situated very near each other, and at the same time so far insulated as not to be materially affected by the attractions of neighbouring stars, they will then compose a separate system, and remain united by the bond of their own mutual gravitation towards each other. This should be called a real double star; and any two stars that are thus mutually connected.

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Ya know...I started this thread by typing out the four pages in an effort to try and point out when Michael started saying he was in love, but it seems like I'm going to have to take another approach so you all can see when he did...

*thinking...thinking...thinking*

There's gotta be a way to help you all to hear him...I know there is. I'll just have to come up with it. lol

He has been expressing it in plain view... :yes:
 
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