Please Forgive Me & Please Correct Me If I am Wrong ok ; Michael was forewarned

[Asedora]

To be totally honest with you..I am yet to figure out Nurse Lee's role in all of this...the "why" of her coming out with her story...She was the first person that I heard of speak of the propofol to my recollection....I really dont believe her when hes says that Michael begged her for propofol....to me there are so many unanswered questions that surround Michael's death...I do believe the answers ARE out there...IMHO...someone somewhere WILL slip up.....there is NEVER a perfect crime....We may never find out every little detail about Michael's death...But in time..I think we will find out.....I agree...follow the money and we will learn alot.

I afraid that Michael never will get a true justice. We probably never will find out what happened unless somebody will slip up like you said. I do not believe this nurse too that Michael begged her for propofol. Why would he ask her if he had dr. Murray and other doctors around him?
I wonder who is this nurse? was she a friend of MJ? How did they meet?

 

[ensleyave]

How do we know that lady really told him that? We only have her account. Just saying

 

[BillieJean84]

Lets say for the sake of argument, that it was premediated. 1.Wasn't Dr. Murray seen prior to June 25, taking out a lot of Propofol from his office and into his car? 2. MJ was going to get alot of $$ from This is It- would that be 2 pieces of evidence that it was indeed 'premediated' ?


(& of course don't forget the hour and half that was passed before calling 911 & also any 10 year old knows that you have to be on a flat surface to perform CPR)

 

[Thetruthbetold]

He is a very intelligent man so he had to know that the drug was a powerful drug that can kill u if not under prevision Dr.M knew better he was suppose to monitor his heart, but know he followers orders from them "killers" yes this is a conspiracy for the last time its hard to get deep into it because many won't believe what is going on in the industry is real and Michael was a man of god, earth, and good but of course evil, envy, and judgment will follow u. I blame so many for Micheal's death and I don't care for guilt cause its not real. Dr.M ended up failing him self at the end cause he going down unless he just states the real.

 

[kasume]

yes & it shouldn't make too much difference considering all MJ wanted to do was just take a long nap. not committ suicide, not die. Sleep.

That's what I'm saying. Michael would not risk dying just for some sleep.

He would KNOW that propofol can cause death.

I hate how the general public believe this story and just eat it. I can't wait for the truth to come out, so they can REALIZE Michael was not an idiot.

To be totally honest with you..I am yet to figure out Nurse Lee's role in all of this...the "why" of her coming out with her story...She was the first person that I heard of speak of the propofol to my recollection....I really dont believe her when hes says that Michael begged her for propofol....to me there are so many unanswered questions that surround Michael's death.

I think the reason she came out quickly was to plant the roots of people believing Michael was a drug addict. She said Michael "begged". That is what drug addicts do, they beg. And to hear that, people would believe even more that Michael really was an addict when the story eventually came out. And I also believe, it was to lead people away from the truth (that Michael did not ask for propofol). Because now people think Michael asked for propofol that night and it killed him. And that's that. An idiot, begging for propofol, then dies.

But there are also others, like us, who actually knew Michael, and cannot even comprehend the events of that night, with Michael asking for propofol after already being drugged up so much.

Just think about it, if the nurse did not come up on television and say that Michael asked for propofol herself, then we would only have Murray telling that story. And who are we to believe just Murray, who would OBVIOUSLY be covering his own self.

And no, he did not BEG for propofol. Firpo Carr had cut her off saying, "Michael Jackson doesn't beg for anything." And then she said, "I'm sorry, he asked."

But whatever Firpo said, the headlines on the news stations still had in bold letters, "Michael Jackson BEGGED for drugs." And that's what will actually get to people.

 

[xthunderx2]

That's what I'm saying. Michael would not risk dying just for some sleep.

He would KNOW that propofol can cause death.

I hate how the general public believe this story and just eat it. I can't wait for the truth to come out, so they can REALIZE Michael was not an idiot.



I think the reason she came out quickly was to plant the roots of people believing Michael was a drug addict. She said Michael "begged". That is what drug addicts do, they beg. And to hear that, people would believe even more that Michael really was an addict when the story eventually came out. And I also believe, it was to lead people away from the truth (that Michael did not ask for propofol). Because now people think Michael asked for propofol that night and it killed him. And that's that. An idiot, begging for propofol, then dies.

But there are also others, like us, who actually knew Michael, and cannot even comprehend the events of that night, with Michael asking for propofol after already being drugged up so much.

Just think about it, if the nurse did not come up on television and say that Michael asked for propofol herself, then we would only have Murray telling that story. And who are we to believe just Murray, who would OBVIOUSLY be covering his own self.

And no, he did not BEG for propofol. Firpo Carr had cut her off saying, "Michael Jackson doesn't beg for anything." And then she said, "I'm sorry, he asked."

But whatever Firpo said, the headlines on the news stations still had in bold letters, "Michael Jackson BEGGED for drugs." And that's what will actually get to people.

I agree fans with headlines like that..it is almost as if Murray started planning his defense the minute Michael died...if Michael could be painted as an addict then Murray with the help of Nurse Lee would plant that idea and take it as far as he could.

 

[funkyfish]

Surely he could have asked for the propofol? NOt begged for it, i dont believe that either. But if mj told murray he wanted to use propofol cause he's used it before and it worked, and the doctor said yeah sure no biggie like it was no problem it might have made him less cautious about it?

The nurse that mentioned the propofol, wouldn't it have been better for murray or whoever killed mj with the propofol, if she didn't mention it at all? then the coronors wouldn't have even found a trace of it? I'm not trying to crash anyones theory, i've just seen the nurse mentioned a bunch of times in this context and can't help thinking that the fact she mentioned propofol has helped us out? idk maybe i'm missing something.

 

[xthunderx2]

Surely he could have asked for the propofol? NOt begged for it, i dont believe that either. But if mj told murray he wanted to use propofol cause he's used it before and it worked, and the doctor said yeah sure no biggie like it was no problem it might have made him less cautious about it?

The nurse that mentioned the propofol, wouldn't it have been better for murray or whoever killed mj with the propofol, if she didn't mention it at all? then the coronors wouldn't have even found a trace of it? I'm not trying to crash anyones theory, i've just seen the nurse mentioned a bunch of times in this context and can't help thinking that the fact she mentioned propofol has helped us out? idk maybe i'm missing something.

The part about Nurse Lee.....
No..you are correct I thought this myself earlier..though I didnt post it..which is why I say I still dont get her "why" for coming out....to help Michael or ..to hurt Michael......Or......to clear her own conscience maybe.....or "someone" told her too.....IDK what her deal is...I DO however think she knows something pertinent to this investigation.....I just wish she would be honest...who knows.

 

[TinaG]

Surely he could have asked for the propofol? NOt begged for it, i dont believe that either. But if mj told murray he wanted to use propofol cause he's used it before and it worked, and the doctor said yeah sure no biggie like it was no problem it might have made him less cautious about it?

The nurse that mentioned the propofol, wouldn't it have been better for murray or whoever killed mj with the propofol, if she didn't mention it at all? then the coronors wouldn't have even found a trace of it? I'm not trying to crash anyones theory, i've just seen the nurse mentioned a bunch of times in this context and can't help thinking that the fact she mentioned propofol has helped us out? idk maybe i'm missing something.

As far as I recall, in Murray's statement to detectives, he mentioned Nurse Lee by name and said he thought she had given him propofol at some point. So from that I gathered that is why she had to mention propofol and started making her rounds on the talk shows. Her name was mentioned by Murray, and she was questioned by police, so (whether her version is true or not) she felt the need to get her story out with regard to propofol.

 

[funkyfish]

As far as I recall, in Murray's statement to detectives, he mentioned Nurse Lee by name and said he thought she had given him propofol at some point.

Murray said he thought that the nurse had given mj propofol at some point? Was murray the first person to mention the propofol? I thought Lee was the first person to mention the drug at all?

If murray mentioned propofol first i dont even know what the hells going on anymore.

 

[rainny]

I checked the dates, and I posted about it in some other thread.

If the nurse spoke up only because Murray had mentioned her in

relationship to the Propofol to the police, she had to have had a

source other than the media who gave her that information since,

by the time it was made public that Murray had mentioned her,

we all knew about her.

 

[LindaC781]

I think what she/he's saying is that Michael knew just exactly how dangerous this drug was, but insisted on taking it...thereby causing his own death....I don't know about this. I tend to disagree. I think he was sold a bill of goods by those who were "looking out for his best interests". Hey, with "friends" like these, who needs enemies for crying out loud.

 

[xthunderx2]

Murray said he thought that the nurse had given mj propofol at some point? Was murray the first person to mention the propofol? I thought Lee was the first person to mention the drug at all?

If murray mentioned propofol first i dont even know what the hells going on anymore.

I remember Lee coming out first....then Murray made a statement......because I remember saying that if she never came out with it then the coroner would of never thought to look for it and they would of ruled his death just an accidental overdose of whatever what was in his system at the time....IDk...does anyone else remember something different?

 

[xthunderx2]

also...I remember saying to my family as soon as he died.....He was murdered......I just knew that there was no way that Michael died of natural causes from a heart attack...not the way we saw him going to rehearsals and carrying on getting ready for these concerts.....I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea it was a natural thing...and the more things that have surfaced since only leads me to believe that I was right from the beginning.....he WAS murdered.....I just wish we knew all the players.

 

[Asedora]

I do believe that Michael was murdered. A person doesn’t need to be an addict to die from drug overdose. Michael died from Propofol overdose as far as we know from autopsy. Something tells me that ppl around him put him on drugs and he couldn’t control himself. They controlled him. From fans testimony I have learned that he was under terrible pressure and sometimes they saw him under drug influence. My theory is that ppl involved in this crime made it look like drug overdose but it was a real murder. Michael was driven to death. The fact is that being under drug influence ppl cannot control themselves but it doesn’t mean that they wanted things to be that way and it doesn’t mean an addiction. All what it means that somebody used to control Michael putting him on drugs.
And this nurse probably the one who gets her benefits from what she said. They want to blame Michael for his own death. And I have no idea why Dr. Murray still goes to work and I do not understand why it takes that LONG for LAPD to arrest at least one person, Dr Murray. All I can sense here that big money and very powerful ppl are involved in this case. This is why probably we will never know the truth.

 

[kasume]

I agree with everything you all are saying.

But I guess I'm just thinking differently. If Cherilyn Lee never brought up the propofol, and nobody ever looked or even thought of propofol because of it, then yes, we would all believe Michael died from a simple drug overdose.

But that brings in another question. Was Michael really an addict when he died? Because if the autopsy shows Michael was not an addict, then why the overdose? And that would lead to the doctor giving him the drugs. Tell me if I'm wrong, but an addict wouldn't ask for all those drugs that were given Michael that night.

I mean I don't think it would be best to have Michael die with excessive drugs, if he wasn't an addict in the first place. But for the propofol, to mix that with an amound of drugs that wasn't deadly, then it becomes the propofol that actually killed him, not the drugs.

I just keep thinking, what if Michael wasn't an addict? And personally, I don't think he was. And then to have him die ONLY on a large dose of drugs would seem like absolute murder.

But the story of the propofol, of HIM asking for it, without the deadly dose of drugs, and then dying from that, that's a bit more understandable.

But that's all IF autopsy results show Michael was not an addict...

 

[Asedora]

But that brings in another question. Was Michael really an addict when he died? Because if the autopsy shows Michael was not an addict, then why the overdose? And that would lead to the doctor giving him the drugs. Tell me if I'm wrong, but an addict wouldn't ask for all those drugs that were given Michael that night.

...

Let's assume that autopsy was real and it didn’t show that Michael was an addict. I believe he was not. The question is would autopsy show an addiction if he had this addiction only for two weeks before he passed because all of it was planned including drugs? They cut off the family and fans 2 weeks before his death. It was a reason for that. Think about it.
If autopsy doesn't show an addiction it means that overdose shouldn’t take a place at all. This is why LAPD has to investigate this case as a murder. Will they? I do not think so.

 

[TinaG]

I remember Lee coming out first....then Murray made a statement......because I remember saying that if she never came out with it then the coroner would of never thought to look for it and they would of ruled his death just an accidental overdose of whatever what was in his system at the time....IDk...does anyone else remember something different?

In one of the first search warrants issued, within the affidavit, it is noted that on June 27th, Murray spoke with Detective Smith and Officer Martinez.

"Murray stated that he was Jackson's personal physician. Murray had been treating Jackson for insomnia for approximately the past six weeks. He had been giving Jackson 50 mg of PROPOFOL (DIPRIVAN), diluted with LIDOCAINE (XYLOCAINE) every night via intravenous (IV) drip to assist Jackson in sleeping."

Further in that same affidavit, it is stated that, "Murray told Officer Martinez that he was not the first doctor to introduce Jackson to PROPOFOL. Murray stated that Jackson was very familiar with the drug and referred to it as his "milk."

Then further down it states, "At one time Murray noticed and inquired about injection marks on Jackson's hands and feet. Jackson stated that Doctor Cherilyn Lee had been giving him a "cocktail" to help him. Murray believed the cocktail to be a PROPOFOL (DIPRIVAN) mix."

So that was stated by Murray to the detectives on June 27th, according to the affidavit. It also states that a search warrant was issued on June 29th for "the doctor's bag and supplies" at Jackson's home. There they recovered several bottles/vials of Propofol and the other meds we know about.

The affidavit further states that the LA County Coroner's investigator subpoenaed medical records from all the doctors noted to have treated MJ (Murray, Klein, Metzger, Adams, Tadrissi, Slavit, Rosen, and nurse practitioner, Cherilyn Lee). This happened on or after July 17th, according to the affidavit. It is noted that at the time of the warrant, "Dr. Lee and Dr. Metzger's medical records have not been received by the LA Country Coroner's Officer.

In the very next paragraph it states that "Detectives Smith and Myers interviewed Cherilyn Lee." It does not give the date there, but since it notes previously that Murray was interviewed on June 27th, when he mentioned his belief that Lee was giving MJ a "cocktail" of a propofol mix, I think it's safe to assume that Murray brought Lee's name into the investigation, her medical records were later subpoenaed, and she was subsequently interviewed by police.

On June 30, on AC360 on CNN:

Campbell: did you go to the authorities with any of this?

Cherilyn Lee: no

Campbell: did you think about doing that?

Cherilyn Lee: well, when I saw it on the news I kind of felt I knew what happened. And I just didn't really - I really didn't know what to do. I was saddened; I heard there was a physician there.

On RadarOnline, Lee says LAPD questioned her after she'd done an interview (I assume she's talking about one of her many TV appearances). You can see that here:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...cksons-nurse-lapd-questioned-me-about-strange

Here's another video where she talks about the LAPD coming to her "about a week or so after...I don't totally remember the time frame." This is at about 1:45 in the video.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/acce...s-michael-jackson-investigation_video_1140681

She implies that the LAPD now had information they didn't have before, once she had gone to the AP (Associated Press, which was on 6/30). So she's saying that she is the sole person to bring up propofol, and that's basically how the LAPD knew about it.

It seems to me though, in all of this information, that Murray first mentioned propofol in his interview with detectives on June 27, which means he was the first person to mention it. And it seems likely that someone had to have leaked that tidbit of info to her, giving her the heads up, which is when she started doing her interviews and such. This just says to me that she was trying to tell what she knew about propofol with MJ, to clarify that he asked her for it, but she did not give it to him. Why else would she bring it up? Especially since she admits in the AC360 interview that she did not go to the LAPD with that info. She says in the later interviews that she was fully cooperating with them and such, but she didn't voluntarily contact the LAPD, which is odd to me.

 

[Thetruthbetold]

If he was such an addict every one would of knew this already just think about that? Why hide this side of his self from his fans? An addicted would be able to move the way MJ moved etc. Yes i believe at one point he had a little addiction with painkillers because of the pain he was end lupus is a serious disease that can attack every part of the body especially the heart i believe he was healthy but at times had to cope with the hard pain and sleepless nights they knew Micheal's weakness and played on it. Its very sad what artist have to go through just to make a dollar

 

[Cris123]

But in saying that he'd used it before, if we are to believe the HIStory tour story, it was also said that he traveled with a "mini clinic" so, in believing that he had prior use with propofol, he would have known that he needed those same monitoring supplies right? I wouldn't equate a "mini clinic" to just an I.V. stand and an oxygen tank, I'm assuming that "mini clinic" would have included some kind of monitoring devices "oxygen levels, heart rate, etc." So if Michael would "risk" being seen traveling with an anesthisist and a mini clinic, why wouldn't he have all of the correct monitoring devices in the privacy of his own home along with making sure the proper revival equipment was also present? Comfortable with the use of it or not, I'm sorry, I just can't see Michael saying, well the actual anesthesiologist needed all of this equipment but its ok that Murray (not a trained anesthesiologist) doesn't have the proper equipment, it'll be ok. I don't buy it.

Sadly, it may be that this time around Michael was so strapped for cash that all his expenses were paid by AEG/ his creditors: security, doctor, videographer, rent, etc so he found a crook doctor who was in debt himself and hardly was able to find propofol and some oxygen tanks?? This is too tragic if it was neglect/ accident, and scary outrageous if more than that

 

[rainny]

Yes i believe at one point he had a little addiction with painkillers because of the pain he was end lupus is a serious disease that can attack every part of the body especially the heart i believe he was healthy but at times had to cope with the hard pain and sleepless nights they knew Micheal's weakness and played on it. Its very sad what artist have to go through just to make a dollar

There is not such a thing as a little addiction. Addictions are the same

whether you are famous or not, rich or not. Michael needed pain management,

and doctors screwed up.

 

[rainny]

It seems to me though, in all of this information, that Murray first mentioned propofol in his interview with detectives on June 27, which means he was the first person to mention it. And it seems likely that someone had to have leaked that tidbit of info to her, giving her the heads up, which is when she started doing her interviews and such.

The question is....who? Between the time Murray gave the interview,

and she first went public, the world didn't know about Cherilyn Lee.

Also, she was recommended to MJ by someone he trusted, she said, and

that's why he felt comfortable. Who is that person?

 

[Serenity3104]

TinaG, thanks for the timeline! If Murray was truly the one that brought it up first that makes so much sense to me, I remember her first interview on CNN and was totally flabbergasted at it, something just seemed "off" with her, and IF she was tipped off and trying to hurriedly explain herself in front of millions then it makes sense what why it seemed "off" like that. I remember thinking to myself, no one knows who the heck she is and she has placed herself in the limelight, but IF the LAPD already knew who she was (according to info from Murray) then she was tucking tail trying to throw them off, jmo. Now as rainny said, if she was tipped off, the question now is, by who?

ETA: and also if you're so worried that propofol might be the cause of death, why not go to the authorities first? not CNN...I remember Anderson asking her that too.

 

[Agent M]

Michael Jackson's "Unintended, but Foreseen" Death

On OUP's Medical Monday blog, Robert Veatch talks about the decision made by Michael Jackson's physician to offer him what was arguably a potentially lethal dose of the anesthetic, propofol, and the trade-off that he believes that Mr. Jackson and Dr. Murray made to give him some much needed rest.

This decision, says Veatch, was one doctors must often make where unintended but foreseen consequences exist that may even include death but that the potential benefits often outweigh those consequences.

In such cases, the outcomes are not considered "homicides", particularly when the decisions are made between a trusted doctor and a consenting patient.

Of course, these claims made by Dr. Veatch are all assumptions in the Jackson case, but were they to be true, then his analysis would be sound. Moreover, from a simple medical ethics perspective it would seem that the key question here--that no one will ever really know the answer to is the nature of the relationship between Dr. Murray and Michael Jackson. Was he trusted implicitly to make those decisions? And on that fatal day did Jackson agree to take those medications or was the consent at least implicit because of the nature of the relationship?

If the answers to those questions are in the affirmative, then Veatch may have something here. If not, then I think that he may be looking for a solution to this criminal case via bioethics that simply does not hold up.

Summer Johnson, PhD

http://blog.bioethics.net/2009/09/michael-jacksons-unintended-but-foreseen-death/

 

[Autumn II]

TinaG, thanks for the timeline! If Murray was truly the one that brought it up first that makes so much sense to me, I remember her first interview on CNN and was totally flabbergasted at it, something just seemed "off" with her, and IF she was tipped off and trying to hurriedly explain herself in front of millions then it makes sense what why it seemed "off" like that. I remember thinking to myself, no one knows who the heck she is and she has placed herself in the limelight, but IF the LAPD already knew who she was (according to info from Murray) then she was tucking tail trying to throw them off, jmo. Now as rainny said, if she was tipped off, the question now is, by who?

ETA: and also if you're so worried that propofol might be the cause of death, why not go to the authorities first? not CNN...I remember Anderson asking her that too.

Interesting. I, too, remember Anderson asking her that. Someone "tipped her off," but we have no idea who. I would think an innocent person would go to the authorities immediately after Michael's death, and if not, why not?

I was completely stunned by her first interview, and she went on and gave more and more interviews, turning the commentaries to propofol and away from narcotics. Because she knew propofol would be found? Who IS this person? What is her agenda? What I came up with is that she knew Murray, and she knew she'd be implicated in some way, so she was being pre-emptive. She looked SCARED to me. She was everywhere, and then vanished from tv.

Still wondering why she didn't "be a good citizen" and go immediately to the authorities? Eventually she was required to turn over her medical records, but by then had plenty of time to alter them.

I simply don't believe that "hot and cold" phone call ever happened. She's the only one who's talked about it. Michael was not an idiot. With symptoms as odd and drastic as that, he should have gone immediately to a hospital because those symptoms seemed to be indicative of a major neurological problem! Was Lee just trying to establish that she was not THERE? (She was in another state at the time she said the phone call happened.)

Mostly, though, what she did was turn the blame squarely on Michael! He "begged" for propofol. Oh, really? And Murray simply was following orders? A doctor treats the patient. The patient doesn't tell the doctor HOW to treat. Very, very fishy. . . . . .

 

[funkyfish]

It seems to me though, in all of this information, that Murray first mentioned propofol in his interview with detectives on June 27, which means he was the first person to mention it. And it seems likely that someone had to have leaked that tidbit of info to her, giving her the heads up, which is when she started doing her interviews and such. This just says to me that she was trying to tell what she knew about propofol with MJ, to clarify that he asked her for it, but she did not give it to him. Why else would she bring it up? Especially since she admits in the AC360 interview that she did not go to the LAPD with that info. She says in the later interviews that she was fully cooperating with them and such, but she didn't voluntarily contact the LAPD, which is odd to me.

Wait...So Murray Hides his bag with the propofol in and only tells the paramedics he gave mj Lorazepam. Which to me sounds like he was trying to hide the fact he ever gave mj any propofol, but then tells the police he DID give him propofol? Why would he do that?

Man, now im confused.

 

[Autumn II]

There is more info on "Nurse Lee" in this thread. . . . .

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81065

 

[TinaG]

Wait...So Murray Hides his bag with the propofol in and only tells the paramedics he gave mj Lorazepam. Which to me sounds like he was trying to hide the fact he ever gave mj any propofol, but then tells the police he DID give him propofol? Why would he do that?

Man, now im confused.

Well, I'm almost always confused about this stuff, funkyfish! So I feel ya. It just makes you wonder...what happened between June 25th and June 27th to make Murray disclose the propofol information to LAPD?

 

[rainny]

Hello Victoria,

I was completely stunned by her first interview, and she went on and gave more and more interviews, turning the commentaries to propofol and away from narcotics. Because she knew propofol would be found? Who IS this person? What is her agenda? What I came up with is that she knew Murray, and she knew she'd be implicated in some way, so she was being pre-emptive. She looked SCARED to me. She was everywhere, and then vanished from tv.

According to her, it wasn't because she knew that Propofol

would be found. In fact, in order to find Propofol, they have

to really be looking for it, or so I've heard. She said to have

come forward when, even after the autopsy, nobody was talking

about it ( or something like that). As to who she is, she is a nurse

practitioner also into alternative medicine. My guess is that,

if MJ decided to call her on the 21st, it was because he felt

Lee to know more about health than the doctors who were

treating him just allopathically.

Also, according to Douglas the chef, Murray would be at the

house ' at least five nights per week'. Since the 21st was a

Sunday, and it was also Father's Day, it is possible that he wasn't

around that weekend (?).

Didn't Karen Faye also mention MJ having hot and cold flashes?

I read that somewhere.

Thanks for reading

 

[TinaG]

Interesting. I, too, remember Anderson asking her that. Someone "tipped her off," but we have no idea who. I would think an innocent person would go to the authorities immediately after Michael's death, and if not, why not?

I was completely stunned by her first interview, and she went on and gave more and more interviews, turning the commentaries to propofol and away from narcotics. Because she knew propofol would be found? Who IS this person? What is her agenda? What I came up with is that she knew Murray, and she knew she'd be implicated in some way, so she was being pre-emptive. She looked SCARED to me. She was everywhere, and then vanished from tv.

Still wondering why she didn't "be a good citizen" and go immediately to the authorities? Eventually she was required to turn over her medical records, but by then had plenty of time to alter them.

I simply don't believe that "hot and cold" phone call ever happened. She's the only one who's talked about it. Michael was not an idiot. With symptoms as odd and drastic as that, he should have gone immediately to a hospital because those symptoms seemed to be indicative of a major neurological problem! Was Lee just trying to establish that she was not THERE? (She was in another state at the time she said the phone call happened.)

Mostly, though, what she did was turn the blame squarely on Michael! He "begged" for propofol. Oh, really? And Murray simply was following orders? A doctor treats the patient. The patient doesn't tell the doctor HOW to treat. Very, very fishy. . . . . .

I felt the same way when I first saw Lee on TV, Victoria. Her motives were questionable at best, and the way she hammered home that MJ "begged" for propofol...just odd to me. Why was she so adamant about MJ's supposed intense desire for the propofol? Asking her for the drug is not the same as begging, and to me, begging would imply that he asked her on multiple occasions, which isn't really what she said happened. So I question her use of the word "begged," and I also believe this was all her attempt to be pre-emptive. And it makes no sense at all why she did not go to the LAPD with this information first. The whole thing just doesn't add up.