Autopsy Photo's, Crime Scene Pic to Show what really happened to our MJ!?

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Just for the Record I do not ever want to see these photo's plastered all over the Internet and Media!!

After researching other Celebrities deaths/murders of the past and remembering some of the things we've discussed in here, I have come to the conclusion of why these photograph's have not been leaked for all the world to see.

Let me back up a minute:

Through the years, especially beginning in the early 90's, Michael's image has been exploited, made fun of, a subject of every latenight monologue and the topic of many stand up comedians nightly routine. Someone sure had fun making sure to humiliate him at every corner and he didn't actually get any peace from the press either did he?Nor did he recieve alot of Good PR from his own record label through the years either, did he?

The press hounded him, especially after he became a father, they made up stories and sensationlized the truth to make Michael look bad in the general's public eye.

His haters and enemies all but detroyed his character, name and legacy with the 2005 trial. They stopped at absolutely nothing to stick it to him and make him look as humanly bad as possible in the eyes of the public.

We have seen alot of evidence through the years of his haters and enemies not declining an opportunity to further tarnish his name and legacy.

So, if he really died of an overdose of propofol that was given to him cause he asked for it, why haven't a leak Photo of the Autopsy or discussions about it in the media had its debut yet? Surely, if he died the way we were initially told he died and there were NO VISIBLE marks on his body to question; The public would have already seen these images of our Michael or of him in his casket( I do not ever want to see this, at all). IF you check the internet on any number of deceased legendary star you will come across something official pretaining to their death, The death photo( this thread isn't about MJ's last pic taken in ambulance), crime scene of murder, etc. It's this kind of Evidence that reopens closed murder cases and causes alot of debate through the years about what happened, people also use these items years later to write books about the conspiracy used to cover up the murder. Do you get what I'm trying to say here?

The actual Autopsy photo(s) will give a story of what really happened to Michael the night of June 25th 2009 and it's not going to be pretty.

The Executive's of his Estate are not doing Michael's name and legacy any favors by withholding the right to have these pics in the hands of whomever is investigating foul play.

The are tying to prevent the truth from surfacing.

As I stated, I have been researching other celeb's deaths/murders, the smoking gun has been the Autopsy Photo's (Report) along with the Crime Scene photo's. Typically extensive pics are taken at crime scene and during an autopsy.

Remember what Liza Minielli said after Michael's Murder, "All hell is going to break loose once that autopsy report is made public".( i think these were her words, correct me if i am wrong).

Remember those initial rumors we heard about the condition of Michael's body? It painted a picture of a man who was perhaps tortured in his final hours. This is also what a fan named "Moth2aFlame" told us in this section months ago. They are no longer on this forum, but the more time passes, the more I think about what Moth2Aflame told us. Some of it was very, very hard for me to read but I did.

Moth2aflame was the first to say, the crime scene had been staged. They said the murders changed the bedding sheets and redressed MJ due to body fluids that are naturally released
under those conditions.

Moth2aFlame believed, Michael was held down by more than one person and Injected by force, they came to this conclusion becuase of those initials reports of bruises on his arm.

Remember the coroner's office or some official coming out with a statement saying this was false and inaccurate( or something like that?).

Could it have been closer to the truth than they want us to know?

Is that the reason why The Estate are making sure no one who are in a position to challenge them, can gets their hand on those photograph's.

What's hiding in the official Autopsy pics?

The truth, maybe...
 
This is supposedly how MJ looked. This according to reports from the few who were in the room at the time of the autopsy. Apparently 1 person has a pic of MJ from the right side from the side only of his body and decided not to sell the pic because the LAPD would know who it was who leaked the photo because there was only a select few who was there and each pic taken was document.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE-kAKtWYqE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZcwWlhkpcI&feature=related
 
This is supposedly how MJ looked. This according to reports from the few who were in the room at the time of the autopsy. Apparently 1 person has a pic of MJ from the right side from the side only of his body and decided not to sell the pic because the LAPD would know who it was who leaked the photo because there was only a select few who was there and each pic taken was document.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE-kAKtWYqE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZcwWlhkpcI&feature=related

I think that what I saw...the pic...But I not watched it and I never want to.
 
I wonder if there is some law about it or something, being leaked before prosecution?


There is a law in California about autopsies not supposed

to be made public while the investigation is taking place.
 
and furthermore I think that if it goes to trial, the autopsy will be mentioned in the trial and then all the info will become public record.
 
The actual Autopsy photo(s) will give a story of what really happened to Michael the night of June 25th 2009 and it's not going to be pretty.

We don't NEED the photos!! Just tell us!!!!!!!!

The Executive's of his Estate are not doing Michael's name and legacy any favors by withholding the right to have these pics in the hands of whomever is investigating foul play.

The are tying to prevent the truth from surfacing.

Maybe that explains the money given to the D.A.'s office. Who do the executor's of his estate have connections with again?

Moth2aflame was the first to say, the crime scene had been staged. They said the murders changed the bedding sheets and redressed MJ due to body fluids that are naturally released
under those conditions.

Moth2aFlame believed, Michael was held down by more than one person and Injected by force, they came to this conclusion becuase of those initials reports of bruises on his arm.

But if there were bruises on his arm, SOMEONE, more than one person must have seen them and know about them from the time he was taken out the bedroom, and rushed to the hospital.

And as for changing the bedding sheets...what for? Unless, there were substances on the sheets....I don't know. I just know the truth must be heard.
 
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I think you are quite right. I suspect there would have been bruising on his body from being held down. That is almost too horrible to contemplate, but. . . I think it's correct, and it's the primary reason not more info has been released.
 
Before I say anything, can somebody give a general idea of what they are saying since they are speaking spanish?
 
I think you are quite right. I suspect there would have been bruising on his body from being held down. That is almost too horrible to contemplate, but. . . I think it's correct, and it's the primary reason not more info has been released.

Then it's because, they DON'T want the truth revealed. And want everyone to belive Michael asked for it on his own will.

Or....

The truth WILL be revealed. And they are keeping extra quiet investigating this murder crime, since they know these murderes are top class and don't want to risk ruining the invetigation even a little.

It is one or the other.
 
i think we'll only find the truth in about 10 years or so and the fact that they put out some kind of simulation of the autopsy is just painful and sickening at the same time!
There i've said it!
 
This is supposedly how MJ looked. This according to reports from the few who were in the room at the time of the autopsy. Apparently 1 person has a pic of MJ from the right side from the side only of his body and decided not to sell the pic because the LAPD would know who it was who leaked the photo because there was only a select few who was there and each pic taken was document.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE-kAKtWYqE&feature=related

Ok, I watched it. This was extremely painful to see, and I recommend that most here do NOT watch, just for your peace-of-mind?

The bruising on the chest would have been from CPR. However, wouldn't there be little or no bruising if he was already gone when CPR was done? Anyone know? There were no bruises on his arms, although there was one photo that looked like a cluster of needle-marks on his arm. I doubt those are in any way accurate, though, because needle marks would be over veins, and not all clustered up like that. I don't think this simulation is very accurate. Even though it's a simulation, it's EXTREMELY painful to see. Just warning everyone. . . . .
 
and furthermore I think that if it goes to trial, the autopsy will be mentioned in the trial and then all the info will become public record.

...and there is an additional private autopsy.
 
Ok, I watched it. This was extremely painful to see, and I recommend that most here do NOT watch, just for your peace-of-mind?

The bruising on the chest would have been from CPR. However, wouldn't there be little or no bruising if he was already gone when CPR was done? Anyone know? .

not really...bruises are caused because you break little veins and capillaries and blood is still circulating,livor mortis starts 20 min to 3 h after death...so it's a slow process.
 
We don't NEED the photos!! Just tell us!!!!!!!!



Maybe that explains the money given to the D.A.'s office. Who do the executor's of his estate have connections with again?



But if there were bruises on his arm, SOMEONE, more than one person must have seen them and know about them from the time he was taken out the bedroom, and rushed to the hospital.

And as for changing the bedding sheets...what for? Unless, there were substances on the sheets....I don't know. I just know the truth must be heard.

Well can't they find the substances on the mattress but now the question would be which mattress if he died on a mattress at all?
 
Well can't they find the substances on the mattress but now the question would be which mattress if he died on a mattress at all?

If it got throught the sheets. We don't know what kind of substance we're talking about here. They are all different.

But I don't even know if the changing those sheets is even true. All I know is that you change sheets when they are not clean. Now anything could have been on them, something coughed up could have made it unclean.

But yes, if it was a substance that seeps through easily, and it actually got to the matress, then I'm sure it would have been found....unless, someone wiped it up.

who knows? there are MANY possibilities to the story of the "changed sheets" and all we know is that the sheets were changed, or so we are told.
 
Moth2aflame was the first to say, the crime scene had been staged. They said the murders changed the bedding sheets and redressed MJ due to body fluids that are naturally released
under those conditions.

Moth2aFlame believed, Michael was held down by more than one person and Injected by force, they came to this conclusion becuase of those initials reports of bruises on his arm.

Moddie if the information you posted is pretty much accurate, so it looks to me like sort of a ritual murder by the group of conspirasy. I do not want to say anything more about that but if they were changing sheets on his bad and he had so many marks on his body it makes me think that way.
Myself I do not want to see autopsy pictures but only autopsy pictures and private investigators can find out the truth how Michael died imo. I hope Jacksons did anything possible to do accurate autopsy tests etc.
 
I can translate it for you if you tell me what.

I don't want you to watch it just for my sake. it may be too much to watch.

However, if you've already seen it and do not mind, I would like to know what they are saying. I am sure all else here who do not speak Spanish would appreciate it as well.

Thanks so much!:)
 
If it got throught the sheets. We don't know what kind of substance we're talking about here. They are all different.

But I don't even know if the changing those sheets is even true. All I know is that you change sheets when they are not clean. Now anything could have been on them, something coughed up could have made it unclean.

But yes, if it was a substance that seeps through easily, and it actually got to the matress, then I'm sure it would have been found....unless, someone wiped it up.

who knows? there are MANY possibilities to the story of the "changed sheets" and all we know is that the sheets were changed, or so we are told.

I remember reading a long time ago that they completely changed the room he was in. I remember it being said that his body's lividity didn't match his position. Also all of the equipment was in another room not in the one he was found in. I don't know how true this is, but I remember it being said.
 
I have a question - weren't these stories that you have mentioned published in tabloids? they could be completely made up, right? I really do not remember seeing anything about this in credible newspapers. Even TMZ only mentions the time it took to call the paramedics and the phone calls that Murray placed as questionable events.
 
I have a question - weren't these stories that you have mentioned published in tabloids? they could be completely made up, right? I really do not remember seeing anything about this in credible newspapers. Even TMZ only mentions the time it took to call the paramedics and the phone calls that Murray placed as questionable events.

Anything can be made up even in credible newspapers whether intentional or not. All can make mistakes. However, I will see if I can google and find the article that talks about him being moved. We'll see.

Update: Tmz says he was found in Dr Murray's bedroom because MJ did not want people coming in and out of his room. They say that all of the IV's and stuff were found in Murrays room and the propofol was found in a closet adjoining Murray's room. but they don't say he was moved. They also say the paramedics found lividity in his body so they thought he had been dead already. Here is the story about what room he died in: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/31/michael-jackson-propofol-dr-conrad-murray-died-houston/

That you are right about. I found the articles saying he was actually moved from these magazines:

http://www.memory-michaeljackson.co...ack-was-kept-secret-claims-singer-friend.html
http://www.sawfnews.com/gossip/59779.aspx
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news...ecret-claims-singer-s-friend-115875-21636485/

They are tabloid. I guess that answers the question whether the stories are true or not. They could be or could be not

Someone who has researched more, may be able to tell us more concretely who is the more likely to believe. it seems many stories are a mixture of a bunch of other different stories.
 
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Anything can be made up even in credible newspapers whether intentional or not. All can make mistakes. However, I will see if I can google and find the article that talks about him being moved. We'll see.

Update: Tmz says he was found in Dr Murray's bedroom because MJ did not want people coming in and out of his room. They say that all of the IV's and stuff were found in Murrays room and the propofol was found in a closet adjoining Murray's room. but they don't say he was moved. They also say the paramedics found lividity in his body so they thought he had been dead already. Here is the story about what room he died in: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/31/michael-jackson-propofol-dr-conrad-murray-died-houston/


What? That doesn't make sense! The chef said NO ONE was allowed upstairs but Michael and Murray, so how can anybody go in Michael's room when NO ONE is even allowed up there.....

where did that story come from? Did tmz make that up, or did someone actually say that? If so, then who?
 
I dunno. That is what TMZ said. They said that law enforcement officials told them that. Which could mean anything.
 
I dunno. That is what TMZ said. They said that law enforcement officials told them that. Which could mean anything.

Oh, ok. I just wanted to know because, if Murray said that....then there goes for another contradicting story....and either Murray or the Chase would be lying.
 
I guess the question to ask is if authorities did find out that MJ didn't want people going in and out of his, who were these other people going to be. It couldn't be members of his regular staff, correct? They would know already not to go there, like the cook. Who was MJ worried about coming in and out of his room so that he had to stay in Murray's room? Any ideas? Maybe it is just his regular staff?
 
I guess the question to ask is if authorities did find out that MJ didn't want people going in and out of his, who were these other people going to be. It couldn't be members of his regular staff, correct? They would know already not to go there, like the cook. Who was MJ worried about coming in and out of his room so that he had to stay in Murray's room? Any ideas? Maybe it is just his regular staff?

There is so much we are missing here.

And let's say if there were "these other people" like you said, and not the regular staff? Kai Chase, the chef, must know about them right??? She said she saw Murray go up and down the stairs at times.....so she would have seen other people, not just Murray.

Or that story could just be made up......

But if it's from Murray, either him or Chase is lying.
 
Or it could be people who came at night after she left for the day. Then she might not know about them. If the rest of the staff was asleep they might not know about them. I dunno.
 
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