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OK this is my question... What do we know happened to Michael? The list goes as follows...



  1. Got home around 1 o'clock from rehearsal.
  2. went to bed for all we know.
  3. Michael was believed to have been given drugs to help him sleep.
  4. we hear the Michael is going to the hospital
  5. the doc calls 3 people before calling 911
  6. the doc does bad cpr
  7. instead of calling for another adult he calls for Prince.
  8. After Michael goes to the hospital the Doctor goes missing.

There is something WRONG here. Why is it that the LAPD and the DA cant see what WE see. Why do they have to make it so confusing?

For being a cardiologist this Doctor needs to go back to CPR 101. Relearn the Hippocratic oath. Why am i so confused? This is something so simple and clear. It wasn't what the other doctors gave Michael it was what this ONE doctor gave Michael. A mix of drugs to closely together. ANYONE knows that you don't give those kinds of drugs like that, you have to wait until the first drug leaves the body's system. This was a planed over dose by the hand of this brainless Doctor.

I am emotionally exhausted from all of this. We hear what "Scources" say and we sometimes take it at face value when we know to take anything dealing with this case and Michael Jackson with a huge ocean sized tub of salt.

I am so sick or reading these Hoax story's that I'm about to make up my own and see how far it goes before i have to say "WAIT I MADE THAT SHIT UP!" All these videos Don't prove a damn thing so those of you who frequent these sites and forums i don't understand why you do this. As a fan you know the same story we do. As a fan you know that the only thing these Hoax sites are doing is ripping the hole in your hearts bigger. They want you to think that Michael is a heartless asshole who would screw with his fans this way. We all know Michael better then that we know his heart and that is not in it.

I'm sorry for my little rant but damn my brain can only take so much before it explodes and i walk around with this:*****: on my face for the rest of my life.

 
What kills me is that the very same LAPD was so fast to arrest Michael without any proof and now they give us another dose of this agony not indicting Conrad Murray after 7 long and emotionally draining months.

And if this wasn't bad enough, we need to hear absurds from Murray's criminal attorney J. Michael Flanagan like "This trial could end up being a trial of medical practice. The question is what discretion does a doctor have to treat a patient, and if a doctor makes a mistake, is it a crime?"

Is Flanagan crazy?!
 
ani_geleia said:
What kills me is that the very same LAPD was so fast to arrest Michael without any proof and now they give us another dose of this agony not indicting Conrad Murray after 7 long and emotionally draining months.

And if this wasn't bad enough, we need to hear absurds from Murray's criminal attorney J. Michael Flanagan like "This trial could end up being a trial of medical practice. The question is what discretion does a doctor have to treat a patient, and if a doctor makes a mistake, is it a crime?"

Is Flanagan crazy?!
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PRECISELY.
Being totally unfair to MJ was so easy for them.
Why doing justice should be so hard?
Because there are haters among these guys, that's why.
 
The DO see it. How could they not? They just don't care, and were probably bought-off.

And remember that DA that resigned right before the beginning of the "case?" Did he refuse to participate? Anyone remember that? Who WAS that?
 
Victoria83 said:
The DO see it. How could they not? They just don't care, and were probably bought-off.

And remember that DA that resigned right before the beginning of the "case?" Did he refuse to participate? Anyone remember that? Who WAS that?
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I think the chief of police retired or resigned; changed professions something like that.
 
Victoria83 said:
The DO see it. How could they not? They just don't care, and were probably bought-off.

And remember that DA that resigned right before the beginning of the "case?" Did he refuse to participate? Anyone remember that? Who WAS that?
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Victoria is that the case?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...scussing-jackson-case-on-larry-king-live.html

L.A. County prosecutor resigns after discussing Michael Jackson case on 'Larry King Live'
July 15, 2009 | 12:10 pm

A veteran prosecutor resigned from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office this week after her supervisors learned that she had discussed the Michael Jackson case while appearing last week as a panelist on CNN's "Larry King Live."

Robin Sax Katzenstein, who was on leave from the district attorney's sex crimes division, appeared as a legal analyst on King's Friday broadcast and said there would be problems bringing a potential criminal case.

"Well, I think there are difficulties in this case. You have a causation here. First of all, there are so many doctors in Michael Jackson's life, so many different people," Katzenstein said. "Who do you blame? Which doctor, which prescription, which drug was the lethal drug? Was it the combination of the drugs? Was it the reaction of different types of drugs?"

Asked what a criminal case would potentially look like, Katzenstein said "this would be an involuntary manslaughter type of case. And that's what [Police Chief William] Bratton would be looking at."

Rules prohibit prosecutors from discussing cases that could come before the district attorney, and the probe into Jackson's death, while not yet a criminal investigation, could potentially become one that would be handled by the office.

Katzenstein said in a phone interview that it was wrong to discuss the case, but she believed the investigation was being spearheaded by federal and state authorities, allowing her to voice her opinion.

"The concern of the district attorney's office is that whenever I speak I’m speaking on behalf of the district attorney's office," Katzenstein said. "Should I have known better, probably. I shouldn't have said anything. They told me they weren't happy."

Katzenstein, who has appeared as a legal analyst on radio and cable news talk shows, including Larry King's and Nancy Grace's programs, said she made the choice to resign because it was time to transition to a media career. She also had been on leave the last four months promoting her book, "Predators & Child Molesters: What Every Parent Needs to Know to Keep Kids Safe.”

A spokeswoman for the district attorney's office said they would not comment on a personnel matter.

"It's a good decision," Katzenstein said. "I wanted to go and it was time and I am leaving on good terms."

-- Andrew Blankstein
 
No, it was the chief of the LAPD or something like that. He came off vacation and resigned unexpectedly? I always thought it was strange.
 
what kills me is your so quick to judge hoax people. what makes you think any of what happened on june 25th is true, The stuff surrounding his death, you honestly believe
what's being reported is what happend. Why do u think just cause mj "died"
we would get the truth.? there is more proof, full Evidence that there is a hoax then that there is that he died from propofol on june 25th. You shouldnt believe everything you read/hear, tmz source's are madam zelda and a crystal ball. you keep waiting for them to arrest murray, it wont happen, he doesnt exist.....
You dont believe in the hoax, go search for evidence to prove us wrong.
 
1- Michael used to call many ppl every night like Dlieo and Kenny even Travis , why suddenly that night he didnot call anyone if he was awake until 10 in the morning !!!!

2- Michael's bodygaurd ( the one who wanted to sell the blak mask) said that Michael ususaly go to bed at 5 inthe morning , Murray say that 1:30 he was giving MJ his meds??? does this means that Murray wanted to kill Mj early so that the propophl would disappear , but with MJ's tolerance it made it difficult for him to kill MJ early with small doeses and then he gave Mj a leathal does that did not disappear quickly ,,,,, Murray was trying to heat the room while MJ was dying and he left the room because he was not able to see him dying in front of his eyes.
 
Propofol is not a brand name but the name of the chemical substance. And Fospropofol is chemically different from Propofol.
 
its just like when you go by tylenol
The brand Name says Tylenol
then it says pain reliever on the back of the box
lusedra is the brand name on the box
then it says diprovan
if they found receipts from applied services in murrays office
then the receipts should say he bought lusedra
not propofol or diprovan
if you go by tylenol at walgreens your receipt says tylenol
not pain reliever
 
Laws are full of little windows to let the big fish escape.
That's why big sharks-you know, the ones that never get arrested- are always the most fervent supporters of the law.
But what's legal is not necessarily ethical.
 
molly450 said:
by the way propofol is a vet drug that can only be obtained by a veternarian
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/propofol-propoflo-rapinovet/page1.aspx

diprovan for humans in 2007 changed its marketed name to lusedra
because Propofol is a vet drug and fospropofol is the human kind
so the police and the coroner should be looking for Lusedra not propofol or diprovan unless
Michael was addicted to vet drugs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fospropofol
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Whoa---
I don't know anything about the vet drug, but Diprivan/propofol is indeed a drug used on humans. Both patients I cared for this past weekend were on Propofol iv drips, and it is definitely used widely on humans in the U.S. You might want to read up on it on a few legitimate drug information sites that are human oriented.

Sorry, but I had to jump in on this one.
 
The whole case is messed up, there is NO OFFICIAL physical evidence that proves mj is no longer with us. Too many inconsistencies, no official documents like death certificates, will etc.

Something doesn't feel right, I'm fan n have accepted mike us gone BUT if u look into the hoax theory there are some pretty dam solid clues that maybe mike did hoax his death.

Look at the hoax thread and see what was posted on an Italian forum. Take with a pinch of salt but don't discount the impossible guys.

Michael always told us to uncover the truth and from wot i have seen michael has left some clues that only mj fans could fond that maybe he did hoax his death???
 
molly450 said:
what kills me is your so quick to judge hoax people. what makes you think any of what happened on june 25th is true, The stuff surrounding his death, you honestly believe
what's being reported is what happend. Why do u think just cause mj "died"
we would get the truth.? there is more proof, full Evidence that there is a hoax then that there is that he died from propofol on june 25th. You shouldnt believe everything you read/hear, tmz source's are madam zelda and a crystal ball. you keep waiting for them to arrest murray, it wont happen, he doesnt exist.....
You dont believe in the hoax, go search for evidence to prove us wrong.
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Hoax ppl have to understand that Michael would never fake his death because of his kids. Those ppl who believe that have to get real and watch the last Grammys with MJ kids involved and memorial with Paris crying over her daddy. Why Michael would do this for his kids? Honestly I want him to be alive but hoax theories at this point is not a good thing for Michael justice because if many fans will believe it will be easier for LAPD to close this case.
If somebody believes hoax theries have to look at this screen picture. The hoax website was created on June 23 BEFORE Michael's death.

june23rd.jpg
 
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No one said Michael faked his death, MIkes camp has taken control over him
They want there money. there is no hoax, either he go along with this or they would killed him. The nation of islam has taken control , we have to find Michael.
Michael is alive. Do you not realize by the grammys that Paris that spoke at the memorial
is not the same paris that spoke at the grammys. Do you not get it? Thats not the same girl. Did you not see Michael up on the rafters during the song singing live?
He was there, did you notice it was his live voice? Go rewatch the footage. The tribute artists are staring right at him at one point. He is trying to tell us clues that something isnt right. Your not getting it.
do u not get why he unmasked his kids right before june 25th so u would get a glimpse of what they really looked like and know that wanst paris at the memorial. so you would see something is wrong with what is being told here.

go look at this photo of the memorial
Michael is dressed in disguise as a blonde Lady
look at the jawline, look at the sunglasses
look at janet at him
he is alive, he is trying to tell you he is.
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/j...hael-jackson-s-memorial-gallery-700730768.jpg
 
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molly450 said:
No one said Michael faked his death, MIkes camp has taken control over him
They want there money. there is no hoax, either he go along with this or they would killed him. The nation of islam has taken control , we have to find Michael.
Michael is alive. Do you not realize by the grammys that Paris that spoke at the memorial
is not the same paris that spoke at the grammys. Do you not get it? Thats not the same girl. Did you not see Michael up on the rafters during the song singing live?
He was there, did you notice it was his live voice? Go rewatch the footage. The tribute artists are staring right at him at one point. He is trying to tell us clues that something isnt right. Your not getting it.
do u not get why he unmasked his kids right before june 25th so u would get a glimpse of what they really looked like and know that wanst paris at the memorial. so you would see something is wrong with what is being told here.

go look at this photo of the memorial
Michael is dressed in disguise as a blonde Lady
look at the jawline, look at the sunglasses
look at janet at him
he is alive, he is trying to tell you he is.
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/j...hael-jackson-s-memorial-gallery-700730768.jpg
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It WAS Paris at Grammys. The same girl. Pls stop making those fake stories! We do not need to find Michael, he is dead and he is in FL, resting. Once again, if you have something to add go to hoax thread and post your assumtions there.
 
People who believe that Michael is alive are not considering a major point:

The media hates Michael.

If they ever had a clue of him being alive, they would have hunted him down. And all that w*cko j*cko lifestyle would be nothing compared to what they would make of him this time.
They wouldn't lose this opportunity to make money.


By the way, this is totally off-topic. The subject of this thread is the the investigation on Michael's death, not if he died or not.
 
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Asedora said:
If somebody believes hoax theries have to look at this screen picture. The hoax website was created on June 23 BEFORE Michael's death.

june23rd.jpg
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Well surely that's more ammunition for the hoax theory then?
 
goldiee said:
No, it was the chief of the LAPD or something like that. He came off vacation and resigned unexpectedly? I always thought it was strange.
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I thought that was strange too. His name is Bill Bratton & he is married to Rikki Klieman of CTV. She wrote a book & is friends with Leiweke - she has a website & the Leiweke's(couple) gave a testimonial for her that's in a video.

I think he resigned for a reason. I believe he stayed 1 month after he resigned is what I remember reading. Here are my speculations:

- he could have told Leiweke about Joe going to the police about his son
- he wants to retire with a good reputation & is afraid of what may come out about the corruption in Hollywood (Branca, Weitzman, Fields, Ovitz, Pellicano etc).
 
jrsfan said:
I think he resigned for a reason. I believe he stayed 1 month after he resigned is what I remember reading.
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According to Wikipedia, he resigned on October 31st.


jrsfan said:
Here are my speculations:

- he could have told Leiweke about Joe going to the police about his son
- he wants to retire with a good reputation & is afraid of what may come out about the corruption in Hollywood (Branca, Weitzman, Fields, Ovitz, Pellicano etc).
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I'm sorry, but who are Weitzman, Fields and Ovitz?
This Pellicano you mentioned as well is the same detective involved in 1993 allegations?
And let me see if I got you right:

You think this guy resigned because he knew the investigation would go further and deeper than expected involving Hollywood's big names?


I'm sorry, I'm just trying to catch up with you guys, since I haven't posted for so long on this Community. Thanks in advance.
 
ani_geleia said:
People who believe that Michael is alive are not considering a major point:

The media hates Michael.

If they ever had a clue of him being alive, they would have hunted him down. And all that w*cko j*cko lifestyle would be nothing compared to what they would make of him this time.
They wouldn't lose this opportunity to make money.


By the way, this is totally off-topic. The subject of this thread is the the investigation on Michael's death, not if he died or not.
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The media hates Michael they like the fact that he is gone
they never investigate anything when it comes to him
There the ones who wanted the search warrants released, yet not one outlet
has checked the dam addresses on them.
They wouldnt report Michael was alive even if they were in on it (cough tmz)
 
Asedora said:
It WAS Paris at Grammys. The same girl. Pls stop making those fake stories! We do not need to find Michael, he is dead and he is in FL, resting. Once again, if you have something to add go to hoax thread and post your assumtions there.
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Uhh no no I meant that was Paris at the grammys, but there were 2 different Paris"s at the memorial. The one that spoke at the memorial was not Paris. The Paris that was up on the stage for heal the world at the memorial was the same Paris at the Grammys.
 
molly450 said:
Uhh no no I meant that was Paris at the grammys, but there were 2 different Paris"s at the memorial. The one that spoke at the memorial was not Paris. The Paris that was up on the stage for heal the world at the memorial was the same Paris at the Grammys.
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No offence but I think you grasping at nothing?
Why do you think there were two Paris's at the memorial? What your saying makes no sense at all. Michael is gone. He is not dressed as a blond woman. If someone kidnapped him and made him pretend to be dead you think they let him out in public in drag?
I wish very badly that you were right and Michael could still be with us but I think he is gone, done in by people who murdered him over his money.
 
as long as he is making money being dead they dont care what he does.
yea I do believe he dresses in drag he did it before june 25th.
Michael is the master of disguisses. He has said that himself.
As for Paris, it is a huge sign that something isnt right if it isnt even his daughter up there speaking.
 
molly450 said:
as long as he is making money being dead they dont care what he does.
yea I do believe he dresses in drag he did it before june 25th.
Michael is the master of disguisses. He has said that himself.
As for Paris, it is a huge sign that something isnt right if it isnt even his daughter up there speaking.
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Sorry but are you actually saying that even Paris had a double at the memorial? May I ask where did you get this from?

And Michael dresses in drag? Please don't tell me this came from Ian Halperin's collection of dung catcher (sorry 'coz I won't call it a book).
 
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