Hoax website shows ZERO respect to Michael

Asedora

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Now I want everybody to pay attention to this website. A lot of info on this bard was posted from this website. This website is very disrespectful internet recourse to Michael’s life and death. The info from websites like this should not be allowed on MJ board imo. Recently fake pictures of MJ funeral were posted from the same website. Please be careful guys when you deal with hoax theories. Look at the website and please keep in mind when you discuss hoax theories where this information comes from.
This website is not about ppl questioning MJ death. This is something else.

I was wondering where all this info to MJJC board are coming from if the website I knew was not longer available?
It was not available since October 2009.

Accidently I decided to check this website again and it redirects now you to different domain name automatically.

The previous domain was www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com

Now it redirects you to www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com

Here is a picture of screen from Google which indicates that this website was created on June 23 BEFORE MJ passed. Also it was discussed in some boards before that this hoax website which is not available with this domain had a connection with Sony. I cannot prove it yet but I will try to find out.
june23rd.jpg


Domain registration info somebody provided for me (I do not know if it is accurate or not) shows that this domain registration was on June 25 2009 but the Google screen I posted shows June 23 2009.


Domain Name: MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.COM
Created on: 27-Jun-09
Expires on: 27-Jun-11
Last Updated on: 10-Nov-09

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598


If somebody still believes that fans created this hoax website, I disagree. Fans cannot create a website which shows so much disrespect to Michael calling him W’a’ c ko J a c’ ko.
 
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This could also potentially mean that it was set up by MJ's team.
 
IU was under massive well organized attack from hoax websites for one week now.

Well, I have saved some info I was provided about this domain name registrant before and this info was not private before. How strange. Any guesses?


Domain Name: MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.COM
Created on: 27-Jun-09
Expires on: 27-Jun-11
Last Updated on: 10-Nov-09

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598



Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MICHAELJACKSONDEATHHOAX.COM
Created on: 27-Jun-09
Expires on: 27-Jun-10
Last Updated on: 30-Jun-09

Administrative Contact:
Bernarding, Sara nwadaras@gmail.com
22 Gearing Rd.
Monongahela, Pennsylvania 15063
United States
(724) 466-0095

Technical Contact:
Bernarding, Sara nwadaras@gmail.com
22 Gearing Rd.
Monongahela, Pennsylvania 15063
United States
(724) 466-0095

Domain servers in listed order:
CPNS01.SECURESERVER.NET
CPNS02.SECURESERVER.NET


Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited

Also, this domain was transferred to a different domain company. First it was GoDaddy.com and then it was transferred to DomainsByProxy.com. How weird?
The website was not available for a long time.
 
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And by team you mean MJ's murderers. :)

Hoax theorists always point out "clues", like pictures from Liberian Girl and so on, is it possible that the "team" is behind all this hoax theories??? They call themselves MJ fans, and so make ALL the fans look .... irrational, and kind of crazy and unreasonable bunch???
 
Hoax theorists always point out "clues", like pictures from Liberian Girl and so on, is it possible that the "team" is behind all this hoax theories??? They call themselves MJ fans, and so make ALL the fans look .... irrational, and kind of crazy and unreasonable bunch???

Good point. All hoax websites first of all very disrespectful to Michael and his family. These ppl are not MJ fans they are something else. Sick.
 
Asedora this was a post I made weeks ago, if you see what I post at the bottom in bold I am well aware someone may be fking with us. I am about finding the truth, not about disrespecting Michael. ps. The information you posted above came from a hoax site.


What do you think about this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDz6rk5E5c

The book is real, you can google it and find more information.

This sort of things make me still think he's probably alive and it's like he told us "A great adventure".

Also last week the Chigago Tribune did a poll on her website with the question: "Is Michael Jackson stll Alive?". Most people said yes! It's the first big newspaper I know off that's maybe questioning his "death".

What the hell?? Is that video true? Erm.. that is very freaky if it is.
*The comic thing is enough, but Murray changing his name?? - Wha how can we validate that claim?

I saw an online article asking if Michael was going to turn up to his film premiere.. I don't know which site it was but I was like - why are you even entertaining this idea? - they even had comments from an American hoaxer Alan Abel - who has actually faked his own death in the past:

In 1979 Abel staged his own death from a heart attack near the Sundance Ski Lodge. A fake funeral director collected his belongings and a woman posing as his widow notified the New York Times. The Times published an obituary January 2, 1980[1] (a rare example of a premature obituary). On January 3, 1980, Abel held a news conference to announce that the "reports of my demise have been grossly exaggerated".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Abel

This is about Alan Abel -
'His audience and stage are provided by the world's too-easy-to-please news media. ''I admire good journalism, but I rely on human gullibility, and especially on journalists' willingness to overlook the facts to get a good story or a scoop. It upsets me that Walter Cronkite, the so-called father of American television news, has told people he will never forgive me for having duped him with the naked animals protest. My God, this is a man who's been lied to by some really evil people ... and he hates me!
"We're all gullible. We're overloaded with information, dominated by fibre optics. It's a weird time ... we're like sheep or robots, following the leader, doing what everyone else does. That makes my work easy."It was never my purpose to make money," Abel added. '
Anyway.. OK, I said I had an open mind about all options - accidental death, murder, hoax.

I have accepted that Michael is gone whatever the reason, so the investigation of 'hoax' is not about denial.

I'm being openminded about the options because things just aren't making sense. I could write pages if I sat and got everything together, but this is what comes to mind right now...

25th June 2009
100 North Carolwood Drive


Murray's attorney stated that Murray entered the room in the afternoon and found Jackson in bed and not breathing. According to his attorney, Murray tried to revive Jackson for five to ten minutes, at which point he realized he needed to call for help. He was hindered because there was no landline in the house. weird, especially with the children there. He believed he could not use his cell phone to call 911 because he did not know the exact address. Oh really..how many times had he driven there? Besides, if he didn't know all he had to do was go tell someone else in the house STRAIGHT AWAY, problem solved. He phoned security but there was no answer. Finally Finally? After what? he ran downstairs, yelled for help, and told the chef who was in the kitchen to get security up to the room. By the time security called 911 about 30 minutes had passed. What was going on for 30 MINUTES? The New York Post said Jackson's 12-year-old son, Prince Michael Jackson, Jr., was present during the resuscitation attempts, and that the emergency services were contacted only after Jackson's father was told by a security guard that the singer was ill. ...?!

Murray said he was in contact with doctors at UCLA, who instructed the rescuers to inject epinephrine (adrenaline) directly into Jackson's heart. The autopsy said ephedrine?? Murray stated that Jackson continued to have a pulse when he was taken out of the house and put in the ambulance for the trip to the hospital. An LAFD official gave a different account. He said that paramedics found Jackson in "full cardiac arrest", and that they did not observe a change in Jackson's status en route to the hospital.

There QUITE a few different stories of this day, which I won't bother posting because we have all heard them.



Some things from the 911 call seemed strange, but they could have been honest mistakes I guess.

Extracts from 911 call -


Operator
Caller (Alberto Alvarez)

Ok. He's not conscious, he's not breathing?
Yes, he's not breathing sir
And he's not conscious either?
No, he's not conscious sir
(I'm no medical professional, but if a person is not breathing I don't think they'd be conscious)
Ok (pause). Alright, is he on the floor, where's he at right now?
He's on the bed sir, he's on the bed
( :O)
Ok, OK, we are on our way. We are less than a mile away and we will be there shortly.
Thank you sir, thank you
Ok sir. Call us back if you need any help. Thank you
(Call us back?! Since when do 911 hang up on you before the paramedics arrive?)


12:21pm paramedics are dispatched to Michael's home
12:26pm they arrive
Initial reports are that he had a 'faint pulse' on arrival (this story changed, paramedics later said he was dead already and there were signs of lividity - though the ambulance picture shows mj having cpr with an air pump - I thought CPR was not done on a DOA?)
Paramedics worked on him for 42mins before 'rushing' him to UCLA (why would they wait this long? Also, the video doesn't show much rushing with the ambulance where it is seen backing out very slowly, moving forward again, backing out slowly again)
1:14pm arrives at UCLA
2:26pm Michael is pronounced dead after being worked on for little over an hour.

(Remember Frank DiLeo said that when he arrived a nurse told him 'Michael was gone but they would continue working on him until his mother arrived.' [standard practice? I don't think so] )

Michael's chef Kai, on Larry King

''Larry - Did you see anyone remove the body (body? i thought he had a pulse, anyway..)

Kai - No. When the paramedics arrived, people, security were running around everywhere. The security asked us to leave the home at around 1:30pm so Michael could be taken to hospital.''
According to official reports MJ should have been at UCLA being worked on already at this time.

Media reports paramedics didn't realise for nearly 10 minutes that the victim was MJ.. one said 'It just looked like a frail, old, sickly man'.
 
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Asedora this was a post I made weeks ago, if you see what I post at the bottom in bold I am well aware someone may be fking with us. I am about finding the truth, not about disrespecting Michael. ps. The information you posted above came from a hoax site.


http://twitter.com/genevievejaxn/status/7777804828

Hoax websites have some factual information but this information mixed with 100% fraud. It is all about manipulations like the media. If you do not know how deal with this kind os stuff better not to cuz they will make you to believe whatever they want. This is the whole point of hoax websites. As I pointed before this website is highly disrespectful to Michael .It cannot be organized by MJ fans, think logically.
 
Listen, we were taking the factual stuff from youtube, sites etc and posting them here in that hoax thread. Now lots of different stuff is posted in there and there are some very silly things in there.

People who don't think Michael is alive were coming into that thread and using it to inform the investigation as a whole.

The thread was not about saying 'Michael is alive' it was about pointing out inconsistances and oddities that are real and do exist.

I agree there is some really silly stuff, and thats not what I'm interested in.

Like I said, if what the investigators has thrown up exists..and suggests a hoax..but Michael is dead then someone must be trying to mess with us on purpose.

There is no need for creating drama and a divide here.
 
I agree there is some really silly stuff, and thats not what I'm interested in.

This a mistake many ppl make. You have to be interested who owns this website and it is not fan made internnet resource. If you see such a disrespct to Michael you have to question it, not just reading what they want you to read.
 
This a mistake many ppl make. You have to be interested who owns this website and it is not fan made internnet resource. If you see such a disrespct to Michael you have to question it, not just reading what they want you to read.

Ok right I see what you mean, 'don't just ignore the silly stuff, be interested in where it comes from'.. but how do we know who the person is who owns those sites with the silly stuff on them? How do we know its not just fans coming up with that stuff because they don't want Michael to be gone?

Did you say something about someone proving a link between one of the hoax sites and Sony? I really would like to see that.
 
Ok right I see what you mean, 'don't just ignore the silly stuff, be interested in where it comes from'.. but how do we know who the person is who owns those sites with the silly stuff on them? How do we know its not just fans coming up with that stuff because they don't want Michael to be gone?

Did you say something about someone proving a link between one of the hoax sites and Sony? I really would like to see that.

See above I gave an information about domain registrant and what was going on with this damain name. What else I can do for you? Read the thread first from the beginning.
Also you can call her or send her e-mail and try to find out yourself if you really looking for the truth.
 
its being reported by tmz that murray will show up in court today no matter what.
http://www.tmz.com

buthere is what you need to see
all week long tmz has said Friday is the day for an arraignment

http://www.dpa.ca.gov/personnel-policies/furloughs/list-of-furlough-fridays.htm
list of Furlough dates (fridays)
beginning july 10,2009
most state offices will be closed 3 days of the month

Feb 5th, 2010 is listed for ca state offices/courts to be closed.
The D.A. doesnt work today.
 
See above I gave an information about domain registrant and what was going on with this damain name. What else I can do for you? Read the thread first from the beginning.
Also you can call her or send her e-mail and try to find out yourself if you really looking for the truth.

That you posted above came from a hoax site itself though, I've seen it before.

You said last night that there was a discussion and research about a site and it was proven that it had links with Sony. I don't see it proving a link with Sony in what you posted above. Please, if you have a link to the forum you saw it on, or if you saved the information I'd really like to see it. That site you're talking about MJHD - has redirected and changed a lot over the months.. so perhaps it was abandonned by whoever started it.
 
That you posted above came from a hoax site itself though, I've seen it before.

You said last night that there was a discussion and research about a site and it was proven that it had links with Sony. I don't see it proving a link with Sony in what you posted above. Please, if you have a link to the forum you saw it on, or if you saved the information I'd really like to see it. That site you're talking about MJHD - has redirected and changed a lot over the months.. so perhaps it was abandonned by whoever started it.

This picture of Google screen was NOT taken from hoax website and in is never was there before. If it is there now (I have not seen it yet, I ma not a hoax lover) it means that somebody put it there to make it look like Michael planned his death before on June 23.. Do you really believe that Michael would do it?
It is about twisting information and manipulation again. There is nothing new here.
As Michael said: Lies run sprints, the truth runs marathons. ...
We have to remember that.
Ask yourself if you are a MJ fan would you keep weird resource like that? A believe the answer will “No”. Me too, I would never keep this kind of stuff on my homepage.
So, we have to question it now. Does it belong to a single MJ hater? Probably yes but it looks well organized and well planned.
Why MJ hater would register this domain on June 2009? Logically it doesn’t’ make any freaking sense. Who else it could be? Probably it comes from ppl who have something to do with Mj death.
It is the same thing like possessions were gathered and cataloged several months before his death as you have read it on Karen’s board. You posted it yourself, I remember. Now think about it. Why was everything so well organized and planned and who could do it?

If you want the truth, pls call the person who reregistered this domain on June 23 2009 and ask her why she keeps such a disrespectful resource if she is real MJ fan? I doubt that she gonna tell you the truth. Ask her if she worked for Sony? I do not have a direct link that this website was something to do with Sony but I remember reading it. I believe that this info would be wiped up by now.
 
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Here is a picture of screen from Google which indicates that this website was created on June 23 BEFORE MJ passed. Also it was discussed in some boards before that this hoax website which is not available with this domain had a connection with Sony. I cannot prove it yet but I will try to find out.
june23rd.jpg
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About google - you can change the time on your computer and then create a website. Google reads the date infomation from the file shows this date. Meaning : Now I can set my computer time to 2007 and create a webpage when google indexes, it will show to be created at 2007.

I think that they are doing that time change trick to confuse people.

I would go with the registry date - websites need 2 to 48 hours to be accessible after registration.
 
About google - you can change the time on your computer and then create a website. Google reads the date infomation from the file shows this date. Meaning : Now I can set my computer time to 2007 and create a webpage when google indexes, it will show to be created at 2007.

I think that they are doing that time change trick to confuse people.

I would go with the registry date - websites need 2 to 48 hours to be accessible after registration.

What about doamin registaration onfo I gave you?
 
The web site you're discussing no longer exists. It was deleted for the third and last time around December. Noone knows for certian what happened, but speculation is that it was the consequence of either one or both of the following two "events": a post from Admin that showed the admin having joined the board on June 1 (that's right, 1st June, not a typo), and a post from someone who claimed to have some inside info from friends, possibly leading to murder (or hoax). As I said, it's all speculation, but it still makes you wonder.

Especially because the first two times the board was deleted were also believed to be the result of heavy discussion about the admin. (And I have to add that the original admin left the board and turned it over to new people after the second delete, so you might not be able to find her.) It could be that the admin just felt harassed, it could be technical glitches, or something else, I don't know.

The rumours about Sony surfaced around the second time the board was closed, this was early November. (I do not follow the details, so I can't tell you, but if someone is very interested google mjkit+hoax and you'll get to the archive of another board that had a whole section on their "mother" board, but don't expect to find any hard evidence, for every rumour there's a counter rumour. That same site also has some archives of the board that was deleted, up to August, but all the links on that archive about 23 June are of course broken. I think it's a waste of time though. And no, I'm not a hoax "believer", but I do browse those boards, sometimes there is interesting info hidden among the hundreds of 'OMG!!!!' threads.)
 
this screen came from this hoax site. I don't know if this "june 23" is true. Always when I check out mjhd in "who is", it shows "june 25"
here is link:
http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com

and when i've searched this site in google to compare results (in september), I've never seen this "june 23". Maybe this person made this screen earlier, when was posibility to find this "google cache". I don't know how it works.

I know that someone from hoax site made this screen and showed it to other members and they all started asking Amy S. (owner) what does it mean. After this, mjhd was unavailable for few hours and when site back again, Amy showed them "proof", that this site was made on june 25 (I don't remember what is was). They don't belived her and were suspiciuos untill the end. Many people don't believed that mjhd was created by regular fan. And it wasn't like they all belived that it was for "hoax death" reason (by MJ or someone close to him). Big part of these people thought that mjdh was started by Sony. They atacked this person, asked what was the reason of created this site before Michael's death and why she told them that she live in Australia and domain was registered in Scottsdale, Arizona. Finally she told them that she want to close this site. She sold this site and this person, who bought it, did "redirection" to other "hoax site" (made few months earlier by ex members of mjhd) :
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php

This is what I remember.
I am not hoax believer, I just following these sites.

My english is bad, but I hope you understand me
 
this screen came from this hoax site. I don't know if this "june 23" is true. Always when I check out mjhd in "who is", it shows "june 25"
here is link:
http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com

and when i've searched this site in google to compare results (in september), I've never seen this "june 23". Maybe this person made this screen earlier, when was posibility to find this "google cache". I don't know how it works.

I know that someone from hoax site made this screen and showed it to other members and they all started asking Amy S. (owner) what does it mean. After this, mjhd was unavailable for few hours and when site back again, Amy showed them "proof", that this site was made on june 25 (I don't remember what is was). They don't belived her and were suspiciuos untill the end. Many people don't believed that mjhd was created by regular fan. And it wasn't like they all belived that it was for "hoax death" reason (by MJ or someone close to him). Big part of these people thought that mjdh was started by Sony. They atacked this person, asked what was the reason of created this site before Michael's death and why she told them that she live in Australia and domain was registered in Scottsdale, Arizona. Finally she told them that she want to close this site. She sold this site and this person, who bought it, did "redirection" to other "hoax site" (made few months earlier by ex members of mjhd) :
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php

This is what I remember.
I am not hoax believer, I just following these sites.

My english is bad, but I hope you understand me

Thank you for this information. Hopefully in the future we will find out sonner or later who is behind of hoax websites.
 
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It is working again and it has very info about Michael. This was the whole point of starting this thread because recently whole banch of info was posted in IU from this website.
Pls read this thread from the beginning.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/

I thought you were talking about the original hoax site, that was michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com, at least that's the site I was referring to. That address now redirects to the link you gave, the owners of that site appearantly bought the old url, and now that's the main hoax site, it was only a backup site before.
I understood why you started the thread, I'm aware that all of this "new" info is copy pasted from the hoax boards and it's only new for people who haven't seen what's posted on those forums.
 
This picture of Google screen was NOT taken from hoax website and in is never was there before..

Yes it was..

this screen came from this hoax site. I don't know if this "june 23" is true. Always when I check out mjhd in "who is", it shows "june 25"
here is link:
http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com

and when i've searched this site in google to compare results (in september), I've never seen this "june 23". Maybe this person made this screen earlier, when was posibility to find this "google cache". I don't know how it works.

I know that someone from hoax site made this screen and showed it to other members and they all started asking Amy S. (owner) what does it mean. After this, mjhd was unavailable for few hours and when site back again, Amy showed them "proof", that this site was made on june 25 (I don't remember what is was). They don't belived her and were suspiciuos untill the end. Many people don't believed that mjhd was created by regular fan. And it wasn't like they all belived that it was for "hoax death" reason (by MJ or someone close to him). Big part of these people thought that mjdh was started by Sony. They atacked this person, asked what was the reason of created this site before Michael's death and why she told them that she live in Australia and domain was registered in Scottsdale, Arizona. Finally she told them that she want to close this site. She sold this site and this person, who bought it, did "redirection" to other "hoax site" (made few months earlier by ex members of mjhd) :
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php

This is what I remember.
I am not hoax believer, I just following these sites.

My english is bad, but I hope you understand me

^ thanks for this post btw.

Asedora you said you had proof of the link to Sony, I keep asking you for it but you haven't shown me.. so I can't accept thats true until I see it for myself. Otherwise I just assume it is a fan or hater.
 
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I understood why you started the thread, I'm aware that all of this "new" info is copy pasted from the hoax boards and it's only new for people who haven't seen what's posted on those forums.

Good point. Thank you.
 
Asedora, hun, you're really worried about this, aren't you?
Give people credit, they deserve it. I've only seen maybe three or four people here stating that they believe in a hoax - the rest read the info and got to thinking, which is always a good thing. Michael's fans are very used to filtering through bullshit, our awareness is always set on high, has been for decades.
There's nothing more I wish for in this world than for Michael to be alive. I've been to these sites, read all the info, watched the vids. They didn't convince me, although they tried. Michael's gone.
It's only been a month or so since I've entered any threads in the IU because before that I was too devastated and mentally incapable of doing it.
You know, there's a saying - where there's two people, there are three opinions. But I believe the majority out there go with cold facts. And when it comes to the cruch and when the time comes - we'll all go out in force to seek justice for Michael.

Keep up your good work, and don't worry so much. :)
 
whole banch of info was posted in IU from this website.
Pls read this thread from the beginning.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/

You brought up a different hoax website in the hoax thread and worked yourself up over it. Yes info HAS come from hoax sites, legitimate and factual info. The info you are referring to is the death certificates. Those DC have not been altered and I told you to find the DC online yourself and compare and you will see that they have not been altered. You started a new thread to continue the same argument.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86593

BTW do you have that info on the Sony connection yet please?
 
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Asedora, hun, you're really worried about this, aren't you?
Give people credit, they deserve it. I've only seen maybe three or four people here stating that they believe in a hoax - the rest read the info and got to thinking, which is always a good thing. Michael's fans are very used to filtering through bullshit, our awareness is always set on high, has been for decades.
There's nothing more I wish for in this world than for Michael to be alive. I've been to these sites, read all the info, watched the vids. They didn't convince me, although they tried. Michael's gone.
It's only been a month or so since I've entered any threads in the IU because before that I was too devastated and mentally incapable of doing it.
You know, there's a saying - where there's two people, there are three opinions. But I believe the majority out there go with cold facts. And when it comes to the cruch and when the time comes - we'll all go out in force to seek justice for Michael.

Keep up your good work, and don't worry so much. :)

Thank you hun. I am doing the best I can for Michael's justice.
 
You brought up a different hoax website in the hoax thread and worked yourself up over it. Yes info HAS come from hoax sites, legitimate and factual info. The info you are referring to is the death certificates. Those DC have not been altered and I told you to find the DC online yourself and compare and you will see that they have not been altered. You started a new thread to continue the same argument.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86593

BTW do you have that info on the Sony connection yet please?

I've been waiting on this since yesterday...But yeah, still waiting...I think its only fair that we can ask for facts from Asedora too.
 
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