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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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lovelymj said:
Can someone please explain to me that if Michael was really alive, then why is Murray being prosecuted?
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I know right?!


Actually Michael is alive and "doesnt give a damn" about his babies pics on the internet!

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doh:
 
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Maybe he had to sacrifce showing his babies, I don´t know but the whole case is weird. Whenever I think about the press conference in March 09 I get a gut feeling that he COULD be still alive. Maybe he´s alive maybe he´s dead, I´m so devastated and I miss him and my heart is bleeding constantly since June 09.
 
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Well, I must admit this tread helps he a lot... I still cannot cope with this was supposedly happen on June 25th, so it's somehow comforting, what you're writing here, even if some things are just unbelievable. Thank you guys :kiss:
If he's alive, than maybe it's some strategy, that the Kids are somehow in spotlight -all the attention is on them, so Michael could do whatever he has to.
If he's alive I do not believe in any bam's theories and I do not believe it all would be to show the world who da*ll is Michael Jackson and to show how the media can create the reality, but it'd be to save his life. So at this point, for me, he doesn't have to come back to the world at the spotlight, I just wanna know, that he's healthy and he's enjoying everyday life with his beautiful J3...
And one more thing, someone wrote about this before... I've read Shmuley's book (he's greedy idiot, but we all know that) While reading it, I thought myself (and I still like to think like that), that it'd be possible, that Michael is in Neverland indeed. The stuff was being removed from there, but there still is his home, kitchen is open... it's quiet, peaceful, we all saw this on LKL with Jermaine... it's ideal place to recovery. I am aware of all the past events connected to this place and of this he said he said he never wanted to go back there, but one of my fav. part of PHM he says 'I'd never ever sell the Neverland'...
My point is, as long as we don't know for sure what's happening at Neverland I like to think, the darkest place is under candlestick.
 
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The Lost Child said:
Well, I must admit this tread helps he a lot... I still cannot cope with this was supposedly happen on June 25th, so it's somehow comforting, what you're writing here, even if some things are just unbelievable. Thank you guys :kiss:
If he's alive, than maybe it's some strategy, that the Kids are somehow in spotlight -all the attention is on them, so Michael could do whatever he has to.
If he's alive I do not believe in any bam's theories and I do not believe it all would be to show the world who da*ll is Michael Jackson and to show how the media can create the reality, but it'd be to save his life. So at this point, for me, he doesn't have to come back to the world at the spotlight, I just wanna know, that he's healthy and he's enjoying everyday life with his beautiful J3...
And one more thing, someone wrote about this before... I've read Shmuley's book (he's greedy idiot, but we all know that) While reading it, I thought myself (and I still like to think like that), that it'd be possible, that Michael is in Neverland indeed. The stuff was being removed from there, but there still is his home, kitchen is open... it's quiet, peaceful, we all saw this on LKL with Jermaine... it's ideal place to recovery. I am aware of all the past events connected to this place and of this he said he said he never wanted to go back there, but one of my fav. part of PHM he says 'I'd never ever sell the Neverland'...
My point is, as long as we don't know for sure what's happening at Neverland I like to think, the darkest place is under candlestick.
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I agree! IF he's alive he didnt do it to get peace for himself or whatever.. it was for a much bigger and more serious reason imo!

Its very comforting to think that Michael might be in Neverland! No one would think he's there.. (exept us apparantly lol)
..did we ever get an explanation about the concrete that was delivered in Neverland shortly after June 25?
 
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Lilly (lovely name by the way), i think you are the one who told us about that interview with Kenny Ortega. I saw it Yesterday and he says necessary or something, talking about mj's death, why would one say such a thing ? I am just wondering.
 
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pac said:
Lilly (lovely name by the way), i think you are the one who told us about that interview with Kenny Ortega. I saw it Yesterday and he says necessary or something, talking about mj's death, why would one say such a thing ? I am just wondering.
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aww thanx :blush:

yeah I've been thinking about it.. he said this wasnt necessary, something that didnt have to happen, and that he had to hold that thought for himself right now (something like that) ..I dont know what he meant by this..

Maybe he doesnt agree with Michael, that faking his death was the only way out.. (???)
If Michael did die, why would he say this? when is someones death necessary?
..again, so many questions and no answers *sigh*
 
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I think the most plausable explanantion IF he is still alive is that he was in danger - maybe this is what is meant by 'necessary'.
 
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I also think that if indeed this is a hoax, it was done because his life was in danger. I actually thought this was a hoax in the beginning, but then i threw the possibility out. But I do think Murray is damn weird, and fake, the whole surreal situation of the phone call and ambulace. Joe showing no emotion, and saying someone wanted to kill him, his constant snickering and phone rings on Larry King. The media saying Paris's speech was fake. I don't know something is fishy.
 
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lovelymj said:
Can someone please explain to me that if Michael was really alive, then why is Murray being prosecuted?
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Well I dont think Murray will be charge of anything if MJ is alive. Murray HAS to be a huge part of the hoax if MJ is alive.

So Murray maybe was paid millions to do that.. but its not too hard, hes still pratice medecine like if nothing happened and STRANGLY, no paparazzi are after him, except ben evenstad.. the guy who took the 'last picture' of michael.

Maybe murray plays the victim man, like Michael in 2005. He didint do anything but some people want to kill him or judge him before the trial. Maybe a lesson here.
 
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Calotte12 said:
Well I dont think Murray will be charge of anything if MJ is alive. Murray HAS to be a huge part of the hoax if MJ is alive.

So Murray maybe was paid millions to do that.. but its not too hard, hes still pratice medecine like if nothing happens and STRANGLY, no paparazzi are after him, except ben evenstad.. the guy who took the 'last picture' of michael.

Maybe murray plays the victim man, like Michael in 2005. He didint do anything but some people want to kill him or judge him before the trial. Maybe a lesson here.
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Exactly what i thought about it. I kinda hope its the case as it would make ppl think so hard.
 
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Calotte12 said:
Well I dont think Murray will be charge of anything if MJ is alive. Murray HAS to be a huge part of the hoax if MJ is alive.

So Murray maybe was paid millions to do that.. but its not too hard, hes still pratice medecine like if nothing happened and STRANGLY, no paparazzi are after him, except ben evenstad.. the guy who took the 'last picture' of michael.

Maybe murray plays the victim man, like Michael in 2005. He didint do anything but some people want to kill him or judge him before the trial. Maybe a lesson here.
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that is a HUGE mistery!! Why are there NO photos of him?? ..exept from Ben.. and they always look staged (at forest lawn, the Coke one...)

And murrays youtube message..I've always thought something was very off about that..
 
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Lilly86 said:
I agree! IF he's alive he didnt do it to get peace for himself or whatever.. it was for a much bigger and more serious reason imo!

Its very comforting to think that Michael might be in Neverland! No one would think he's there.. (exept us apparantly lol)
..did we ever get an explanation about the concrete that was delivered in Neverland shortly after June 25?
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:scratch:

Neverland? In my opinion, no. Michael would have been seen in centuries. Obviously the neighbors would notice. If it is to hide, must be well hidden. Michael does not hide in place so obvious.


Lilly86 said:
that is a HUGE mistery!! Why are there NO photos of him?? ..exept from Ben.. and they always look staged (at forest lawn, the Coke one...)

And murrays youtube message..I've always thought something was very off about that..
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Perhaps Murray is hidden in his Batcave and will only leave it on June 14. lol! :wild:


It is unbelievable that lately is not spoken more in Murray. The paparazzi are on vacation? Why they are not following the footsteps of Murray? Maybe when you're around June 14, the press start talking about the Murray again. -_-
 
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The thing by TMZ with the concrete leads me to believe they were going on with the story of Michael being buried there. Remember, that was the rumor a couple of days after he passed.
 
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If you believe that Michael may have entered the Witness Protection Program, you may find this interesting. Frank Paul is a mobster who is mentioned in Michael's FBI File. He has been threatening and trying to black mail Michael for years. Frank Paul also has business ties with AGE, the company that has filed a creditor's claim with MJ's Estate. AGE and Frank were not happy when Michael reneged on the deal to do the concerts with his brothers & Janet. Frank Dileo is guilty of fraud for signing the AGE deal claiming to be represent MJ, Jacksons & Janet. Frank Dileo did not represent anybody.

Frank Paul wanted to do a movie with Michael starring Janet & Beyonce. He suggested that instead of Michael do 50 shows, the he should do 1 show and sell it on DVD or show it at movie theatres. This guy.....think Get Shorty. A mafia guy wanting to get into Hollywood.

In May of 1991 Frank Paul Jones AKA Frank Paul Gambino, then called Paul Castellano was arrested in California for threatening to kill Rene Elizondo, for being in an adulterous relationship with Janet Jackson his said to be wife, whom he claimed he was secretly married to her at a very young age. Rene on federal court documents claimed to be her live-in boyfriend and not her husband. Paul claims to have fathered a child with Janet; she has not denied or confirmed this allegation to date. Nor does she deny their marriage. This makes it impossible for her to have legally married Rene because she was already married.Since 2001, Janet has been involved with hip hop producer Jermaine Dupri
http://www.theinsider.com/news/667384_Janet_Jackson
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You can read Frank Paul's blog here:
http://frankpaulgambino.wordpress.com/

Now remember MJ was fascinated by the mafia and had a lot of shady characters around him.

Frank Dileo has committed fraud with the AGE deal. He also has ties to mafia.
Al Malnik has committed fraud before. Has ties to mafia.
Tohme, has criminal past. Tohme not his real name. Threatened Juliens Auction (Mafia style). Possible fraud re manager & MJ belongings.
John Branca has committed fraud re MJ's Will. Has ties to Dileo.

And this is the tip of the ice berg.

Today 14 members of the Gambino family were arrested.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...ts-include-child-sex-trafficking-charges.html

The theory is that Michael is faking his death to expose those (not necessarily the Gambino's) who have/are trying to take advantage of Michael and his money. If Michael needed to sort his finances out, he needed to plug the holes from those who have stolen millions if not billions from him over the past 20 years of so.

So make of that what you will.
 
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This is supposedly MJs twitter:
http://twitter.com/MichaelJune2010


  • Bio I am Michael Jackson, I love all my fans so much and I can't wait to see them again, In June 2010 I will return unless any changes are made, L.O.V.E

This is my proof to you.. Me getting my account verified, thankyou :)
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We'll see ;) How does a deceased person go about verifying an account with twitter?
 
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:no:, I find it sad people use Michael's name just to make us fans feel even worse about everything. If Michael did indeed want to send a message, I doubt he'd do it through twitter.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
If you believe that Michael may have entered the Witness Protection Program, you may find this interesting. Frank Paul is a mobster who is mentioned in Michael's FBI File. He has been threatening and trying to black mail Michael for years. Frank Paul also has business ties with AGE, the company that has filed a creditor's claim with MJ's Estate. AGE and Frank were not happy when Michael reneged on the deal to do the concerts with his brothers & Janet. Frank Dileo is guilty of fraud for signing the AGE deal claiming to be represent MJ, Jacksons & Janet. Frank Dileo did not represent anybody.

Frank Paul wanted to do a movie with Michael starring Janet & Beyonce. He suggested that instead of Michael do 50 shows, the he should do 1 show and sell it on DVD or show it at movie theatres. This guy.....think Get Shorty. A mafia guy wanting to get into Hollywood.

In May of 1991 Frank Paul Jones AKA Frank Paul Gambino, then called Paul Castellano was arrested in California for threatening to kill Rene Elizondo, for being in an adulterous relationship with Janet Jackson his said to be wife, whom he claimed he was secretly married to her at a very young age. Rene on federal court documents claimed to be her live-in boyfriend and not her husband. Paul claims to have fathered a child with Janet; she has not denied or confirmed this allegation to date. Nor does she deny their marriage. This makes it impossible for her to have legally married Rene because she was already married.Since 2001, Janet has been involved with hip hop producer Jermaine Dupri
http://www.theinsider.com/news/667384_Janet_Jackson
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You can read Frank Paul's blog here:
http://frankpaulgambino.wordpress.com/

Now remember MJ was fascinated by the mafia and had a lot of shady characters around him.

Frank Dileo has committed fraud with the AGE deal. He also has ties to mafia.
Al Malnik has committed fraud before. Has ties to mafia.
Tohme, has criminal past. Tohme not his real name. Threatened Juliens Auction (Mafia style). Possible fraud re manager & MJ belongings.
John Branca has committed fraud re MJ's Will. Has ties to Dileo.

And this is the tip of the ice berg.

Today 14 members of the Gambino family were arrested.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...ts-include-child-sex-trafficking-charges.html

The theory is that Michael is faking his death to expose those (not necessarily the Gambino's) who have/are trying to take advantage of Michael and his money. If Michael needed to sort his finances out, he needed to plug the holes from those who have stolen millions if not billions from him over the past 20 years of so.

So make of that what you will.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'll have to think about this one.

What did it say about this guy in MJs FBI files? I don't recall his name.

EDIT: That wordpess blog is absolutely crazzzzzy.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
This is supposedly MJs twitter:
http://twitter.com/MichaelJune2010


  • Bio I am Michael Jackson, I love all my fans so much and I can't wait to see them again, In June 2010 I will return unless any changes are made, L.O.V.E
We'll see ;) How does a deceased person go about verifying an account with twitter?
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uuuh... what?!
I doubt thats Michael.. like you said supposedly.. k, so we'll see..
 
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If that's Michaels twitter than he probably hiding in Europe juding by the time he said goodnight.
The Hungary theory..
 
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Jonflip said:
If that's Michaels twitter than he probably hiding in Europe juding by the time he said goodnight.
The Hungary theory..
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..the hungary theory? havent heard that..

but damn, you guessed it, he is in europe! ..here with me :heart:
( lol I wish! )
 
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oh come on guys you can't be that naive to actually believe this is Michael's twitter
 
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Of course not...though the person claims they can get it varified :lol: well if they do guess we're wrong about that.

This video was posted in the MJ Discussion section of MJJC.. we already know the contents of it but I'll post it anyway..

[youtube]8LbSKgKdNG0[/youtube]

I am still intrigued by whoever that is in the back of Marlon and Randy's car as they leave MJs home, and they appear to be very smiley considering this is a couple days after MJs death.
 
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dangerous_88 said:
oh come on guys you can't be that naive to actually believe this is Michael's twitter
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No I dont hence the supposedly. It should be interesting to see if they do get it verified.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
If you believe that Michael may have entered the Witness Protection Program, you may find this interesting. Frank Paul is a mobster who is mentioned in Michael's FBI File. He has been threatening and trying to black mail Michael for years. Frank Paul also has business ties with AGE, the company that has filed a creditor's claim with MJ's Estate. AGE and Frank were not happy when Michael reneged on the deal to do the concerts with his brothers & Janet. Frank Dileo is guilty of fraud for signing the AGE deal claiming to be represent MJ, Jacksons & Janet. Frank Dileo did not represent anybody.

Frank Paul wanted to do a movie with Michael starring Janet & Beyonce. He suggested that instead of Michael do 50 shows, the he should do 1 show and sell it on DVD or show it at movie theatres. This guy.....think Get Shorty. A mafia guy wanting to get into Hollywood.



You can read Frank Paul's blog here:
http://frankpaulgambino.wordpress.com/

Now remember MJ was fascinated by the mafia and had a lot of shady characters around him.

Frank Dileo has committed fraud with the AGE deal. He also has ties to mafia.
Al Malnik has committed fraud before. Has ties to mafia.
Tohme, has criminal past. Tohme not his real name. Threatened Juliens Auction (Mafia style). Possible fraud re manager & MJ belongings.
John Branca has committed fraud re MJ's Will. Has ties to Dileo.

And this is the tip of the ice berg.

Today 14 members of the Gambino family were arrested.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267686/Gambino-crime-family-arrests-include-child-sex-trafficking-charges.html

The theory is that Michael is faking his death to expose those (not necessarily the Gambino's) who have/are trying to take advantage of Michael and his money. If Michael needed to sort his finances out, he needed to plug the holes from those who have stolen millions if not billions from him over the past 20 years of so.

So make of that what you will.
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Wow!!! :doh: Great!!! This is obscure. :bugeyed

Thanks for posting!




Dangerous Incorporated said:
This is supposedly MJs twitter:
http://twitter.com/MichaelJune2010


  • Bio I am Michael Jackson, I love all my fans so much and I can't wait to see them again, In June 2010 I will return unless any changes are made, L.O.V.E
We'll see ;) How does a deceased person go about verifying an account with twitter?
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Wow, another MJ? lol! :bugeyed If you do a search on twitter, facebook, orkut and other places, there are millions saying it's MJ. lol! :doh:



lovelymj said:
This thread can drive a person nuts, and actually give hope.
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:unsure:

:doh:

:sigh:


Everyone has the same objective in this thread: finding out the truth and what happened to Michael.
 
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Watch this..

What do you think? and what do you hear??

ps. Ignore the Joker stuff..

[youtube]69nsharI00M[/youtube]
 
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Rockin I havent listened to that Uri Geller you tube you posted yet. but I did see a Uri Geller you tube that made me think..............and my thoughts were this........
1: If you were and are MJ's friend why are you saying these things. ie MJ is going to make an apprearance sometime soon?:doh:
2: The things people will do for TV! :doh::doh::doh:

I am like you, confused!!!
This is how bad it's gotten for me, I am even desperately hanging on to a string of hope that the people that say MJ is alive might be right?:doh::no:
My head says no! My heart says............what if?
Sorry I'm just being daft.
Please tell me what you think?
I am so confused.:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_GdxAaSLXA
This is the one I watched.




 
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K guys, Dave Dave gives me the creeps and Uri Geller. Dave Dave sounds and acts like Michael with his gestures, Uri is fricking weird, and what was that "before he arrived at te airport" Jermaine thing. He seemed pretty uncomfortable there.
 
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In my opinion, Uri knows that many believers are watching him (remember his encounter with the PianoGomes :smilerolleyes: :puke:) and therefore he is acting this way. It seems he wants attention and audience for your program. Nothing more. I particularly, ignore it completely.
 
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^^Amen
 
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