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When do you think Michael and Lisa last spoke?

When do you think they last spoke to each other?

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The other woman that they were to put through to him could of been Debbie Rowe....IDK...it is a possibility.
 
Im sure they loved each other very much. Who knows what happened in their relationship but i feel sorry for her current husband who lives knowing his wife still loves MJ.
 
susiegotyr# said:
but i feel sorry for her current husband who lives knowing his wife still loves MJ.
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Lisa certainly would not be married to her husband. She was with Michael... the centuries..... And to say that Lisa loves Michael to me is ridiculous. Lisa has a great weight on her conscience because of what she said in the past. Fact. I'm sure Michael did forgive. Look at Michael's life.... Someone who truly loves the other, makes the impossible and possible to care for other. That's not what happened. -_-

Michael did not have people worried about it around him :( and if he really had, his life would have been completely different.
 
goldiee said:
I don't think Michael was thinking about Lisa Marie at the end. Too much out there to suggest he had another woman in his life, or other women. I do think she reads the Internet and she saw that post about what his bodyguard supposedly said and now its went to her head but I think he had really moved on and she wasn't in the running.
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That's realistic thinking. There's so many fans out there who say Lisa was the love of his life and vise versa, but she married and moved on. She's happy with Lockwood. They had twins for god sakes. And Michael was seeing other women. I think they cared for each other but that's about it.
 
Thank you for pointing that out prettygirlmj and lulu. That story about MJ and LMP was made up and they falsely put the Bodyguard's name on it.
 
I don't understand. On the flowers she gave Michael it said "I will always love you". Since his death she has poured her heart out and has expressed how much she loved him and still does.

Why not tell him that when he was alive? I understand when she wanted him back, begging that she would have 9 children with him, Michael didn't take her back and this made her bitter but still... Sadly its just too late now.

Its so sad cause they could of reunited their love but it took his death for her to confront her own feelings she desperately tried hiding for the last 10 years.
 
Maybe Michael had a problem with his mother-in-law?
Maybe he didn´t want her to be grandmother to his children

Michael didn´t have much privacy, but he had some moments when we don´t know what was said or what happened.
 
*MissChanel* said:
I don't understand. On the flowers she gave Michael it said "I will always love you". Since his death she has poured her heart out and has expressed how much she loved him and still does.

Why not tell him that when he was alive? I understand when she wanted him back, begging that she would have 9 children with him, Michael didn't take her back and this made her bitter but still... Sadly its just too late now.

Its so sad cause they could of reunited their love but it took his death for her to confront her own feelings she desperately tried hiding for the last 10 years.
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Because when someone dies, you see the infinity of them being gone and that's when the sadness hits you. For Lisa it's both sadness and guilt. I think her gesture is kind though...but she should have been kinder when he was alive not wait til he's dead.

Let this be a lesson to all of you. Those who want to squabble and fight with their other half or friends or whatever, it's not worth it. That person might not be there tommorow. Then you have to live with immense guilt because of your behavior while that person was alive.

As much as Lisa has her family, new twins and husband, when I see new photos of her, all I see is anguish and despair and god knows how Lockwood is taking all of this. Most men can't put up with that kind of thing.
 
I think michael lockwood is supporting her through her pain and u know what in a way im glad he is. Cuz if michael's death happened while she was with nic cage , u can bet any money he would have treated her like s:censored: . Im sure even though michael & lisa had ther differnces, michael would have wanted someone to be there for her through his death.
 
8701girl said:
I think michael lockwood is supporting her through her pain and u know what in a way im glad he is. Cuz if michael's death happened while she was with nic cage , u can bet any money he would have treated her like s:censored: . Im sure even though michael & lisa had ther differnces, michael would have wanted someone to be there for her through his death.
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Not too many men would put up with their wife grieving over a husband of over 15 years. Of course Loockwood will support Lisa, what choice does he have? He was a "nobody" who married Elvis's daughter. What will he tell her, if you don't quit I'm gonna walk away from the life I've grown accustomed too. You're right if she was married to Nic or anyone else in hollywood that had their own money and had lived that lifestyle before they met her, they wouldn't put up with it for so long. Just imagine your significant other was grieving an ex for almost a year that he/she divorced years ago , you would give him or her a sideeye. You would be supportive for the first few weeks but after many months you would be like OK WHATS GOING ON? But like Lookwood if you were married to some big name and you came from nothing you probably would just let it slide. You wouldn't want to piss off your lottery ticket.... lol.
 
dearmichael1 said:
Not too many men would put up with their wife grieving over a husband of over 15 years. Of course Loockwood will support Lisa, what choice does he have? He was a "nobody" who married Elvis's daughter. What will he tell her, if you don't quit I'm gonna walk away from the life I've grown accustomed too. You're right if she was married to Nic or anyone else in hollywood that had their own money and had lived that lifestyle before they met her, they wouldn't put up with it for so long. Just imagine your significant other was grieving an ex for almost a year that he/she divorced years ago , you would give him or her a sideeye. You would be supportive for the first few weeks but after many months you would be like OK WHATS GOING ON? But like Lookwood if you were married to some big name and you came from nothing you probably would just let it slide. You wouldn't want to piss off your lottery ticket.... lol.
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Personally if i was in michael lockwood situation id give my spouse all the support they need. I mean sometimes u cant help with the way ur spouse feels about their ex, u just gotta somehow be pateint & be there for them as best as u can.

Id do that if my spouse was going through the same pain that lisa is going through. That is just me.
 
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I should stay away from threads like this, but anyway....
I think she does feel regret. And she should. But it is too late. For her and for so many so called "friends". She has done nothing but talking bad about him in the last years.I have seen too many interviews she has done. She never had a nice word about him. She should appreciate him before like true friends and fans did.
What is so special about her anyway ?! She was a part of his life and I respect that. But nothing more. It is too late and people should think twice before saying something bad about somebody. For me, she is just a spoiled brat.
 
lulu said:
I`ve read that Lisa will be at Forest Lawn
Is this true??
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It was on some celeb blog recently that says she will be there on June 25th. You know the press, never know what they make up. Maybe she is trying to pull a Precilla? Because she has no reason to be there. MJ wasn't her husband. They divorced. She's not his widow. Lockwood on the other hand IS her husband.

I wonder how he feels about his wife leaving her ex-husband flowers on his grave with the inscription of loving him 'eternally forever'?
 
prettygirlmj said:
It was on some celeb blog recently that says she will be there on June 25th. You know the press, never know what they make up. Maybe she is trying to pull a Precilla? Because she has no reason to be there. MJ wasn't her husband. They divorced. She's not his widow. Lockwood on the other hand IS her husband.

I wonder how he feels about his wife leaving her ex-husband flowers on his grave with the inscription of loving him 'eternally forever'?
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She said, that he is very respectful for her grief...and for her feelings, but I don`t know ....
Mr. Lockwood is rather Mr. Presley... She is chief, isn`t she?
 
Does anyone know how legit this is? Someone posted it on my facebook group.

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Yup. I think he and Lisa should have stayed together. They were complimentary opposites, who could learn a thing or two from each other and make a balance. I always thought they made a cute couple and I always liked Lisa's personality (a bit like my own). I suspect the reason she liked him at first was because he was so different from her. The same goes for Michael. In the end they both fell in love with each other and I think they always had feelings for each other. What Lisa said on Oprah with her mother, it only proves that she did feel something for him still. A person who truly didn't care would have been thoroughly objective, and she was everything but! She's tough, but she's so easy to see through as well. I think Priscilla should have taken her spoon out of the pudding and let Lisa make her own decisions without fear of her disapproval. She's an adult, but the way they acted at Oprah's was reminiscent of a mother and her teenage child, not a mother and her adult daughter.

I don't know about Cage, or the other guy, but I do know that Michael truly loved her. He seemed so happy when he was around her and he was never quite that way since, not even with Debbie Rowe, until he discovered fatherhood.
 
8701girl said:
Thats excatly what i thought too!
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They do give off that impression. It's as if Priscilla is always contemptuous of Lisa. No wonder she's such a rebel then, with a mother like that. I think it's interestig that, although she appears to do her best to rebel against her mother, Lisa still wants her approval in the end. I think that's due to her being the only parent Lisa has left, though. I reckon things would have gone a lot differently if Elvis was still around.

I also sensed that Priscilla felt somehow threatened by Michael. Some people attribute this to racism, but I think otherwise. If Lisa would have married, say, Usher, I don't think Priscilla would have put the demeanour she did when Michael was mentioned. I think this is because someone like Usher would be one of the "lesser people" of music. No one is ever going to seriously compare him to Elvis or anyone of that caliber--the dude is obviously inferior. Her husband would have remained the "crown jewel" of the family, so to speak. I reckon that's why she had no problem with Lisa being with that mediocre, second-rate actor Nicholas Cage.

Michael, unlike Lisa's other husbands, would not only rival Elvis but easily surpass him. There is no doubt about it at all, starting with the fact that he actually wrote his own material. Priscilla would then feel threatened by this brilliant outsider. That's probably the reason why she deluded herself with thinking that Michael wanted some connection with Elvis through Lisa. Yeah, right. Michael, who owns the goddamn Beatles BTW, has never needed Elvis, and will never need Elvis to be the superior musical genius he is.

Moreover, it was Liz Taylor who gave him the "King of Pop" title. Michael would be too humble to proclaim himself as king of anything, even though he rightly deserved it.
 
I agree, LMP was PO'd around the time of Oprah and she just went off on Mike. Was it shady, yes! But it happens all the time in relationships. They just happen to be in the public eye so their business comes out. It wasnt her place to do that, but oh well. I honestly dont think MJ cared because he probably already knew she was mad. Plus Lisa is upfront about her stuff, she doesnt hide and she's moody like that. MJ was well aware of how she was.

I think some MJ fans take it to the extreme when it comes to her, but oh well. They have their opinion and I have mine. Doesnt make them wrong, I just dont agree.
 
I have no idea but sure during the trial 2005 they spoke but afterwards I don`t know but I would like to know anybody knows ,help I`m new to this site I don`t know how to find threads or posts I wish there is some thread to welcome the new comings:(
 
From KOP
I sent them a PM:

Hi I know you should be busy but I´d like to know something, if you can answer of course.
a) Do you know Lisa Marie or have you seen her with Michael?
b)Did he talk about her or other girl?

Thank you


MJs Bodyguards July 13 at 10:55pm
Please Stop with the Lisa Marie questions! We don't know her, we never met her. She and MJ were not married during our watch.
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They are being bombarded with Lisa question on facebook. I asked them a while ago if MJ was ever upset when he saw or heard Lisa was bashing him in the press, and they said he never even mention Lisa around them at all. Seems MJ moved on with his life, meanwhile some LMP/MJ fans can't seem to move on.
 
I think we shouldn't judge Lisa Marie, even though she has said some bad stuff about Michael in the past. She was probably just bitter or upset about the divorce, and we don't know everything that happened between them that led to their divorce either. I do believe her grief is genuine, and I think the initiative with the sunflowers is beautiful :) Like I said in another thread, sometimes we don't know how much we care about a person until it's too late to tell them, and I think this is what's happening to Lisa Marie right now. She may feel extra sad and guilty because of the bad things she said in the past, which is human. I for one applaud her initiative and I hope she will continue to spread MJ's message to the world, it will only help his legacy for future generations :)
 
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