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Janet Jackson on Dateline - Sunday, Feb.13th

PCR said:
Well, the media is already writing crap against Michael. The headlines go: "Michael Jackson verbally abused sister Janet as a child"; "Janet recalls being verbally abused by brother Michael as she was a child", and so on.

And then a few words about her tour and the book. The the main issue for media, at the moment, is that Michael Jackson (verbally) abused and bullied her little sister.

Mean Michael Jackson

Again.

As usual

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That is what I was afraid of. There is nothing can do about that. Sometimes it's like the media treats Michael like he was an only child. Other members in the family too.
 
ginvid said:
As someone said, I think MJ apologized later on. I also think when Janet said she did not grieve, it does not mean she did not cry. On the MTV special when she was doing the tribute to MJ, when they showed his picture on the giant screen, she started to cry. Then she composed herself. She said it was momnets like that, that made it real for her. I think what she meant was that she just tried to deny it and she finally gave herself the moment to let the events become real.

Also, what people say does have an enormous effect on self esteem later. Surely MJ fans who know how much he suffered with a negative image of himself from being teased, can understand how this would effect Janet as well. Is it really beyond your reason to undeerstand where she is coming from? She considered herself closwer to MJ when they were younger. When someon you are not that close to does something, it will not effect you the same as someone who feel a kinship with.

I do think the teasing for the whole family was a defense mechanism. I do not think MJ meant harm. I just think he didnot understand how to get what he wanted to say across. Especially when being raised with that being the norm.

Janet's other atrocities are hard for me to pass on, but I can completely understand her on this one. And that is from personal experience.
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The woman gives interviews saying that MJ was an idiot addicted and now she blames her brother of mistreating her. And he's not here to defend himself. On all occasions Fat Janet was releasing a new failure that she call 'work'.

I think incredible that "fans" defend this woman. She is not worth a dime.

ginvid said:
Ok, let me say this, 2300 has gotten ridiculous again. Everytime the family does an interview, it goes bonkers.
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OK. It's our fault. The Jackson family can speak the lies they want. We are to blame for spoil healthy discussions about the holy family.

What is the problem of speaking the truth about these people? We have a place to attack the new album but we can not attack these bastards of the Jackson family. Simply unbelievable!
 
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I do understand where Janet is coming from. My sister and I have said things to each other growing up not so nice and it is hurtful. I don't like how the media is singling out Michael here. Just reading part of the interview a few posts above, Meredith Viera is focusing on what Michael did.

Janet is saying he didn't mean to be cruel and that the other brothers teased her too but the media just focus on Michael. It gets annoying the way it gets twisted to make Michael look bad by the media.
 
MJStorm said:
The woman gives interviews saying that MJ was an idiot addicted and now she blames her brother of mistreating her. And he's not here to defend himself. On all occasions Fat Janet was releasing a new failure that she call 'work'.

I think incredible that "fans" defend this woman. She is not worth a dime.
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Don't worry, Storm (from MJ beats!!!). This is the same fan who says the only reason Michael ever thought Joe was abusive was because he was too sensitive, not like "cookie cutter". This is the same fan who will try to ban anyone who ever speaks badly of Joe's parenting skills. To her/him, Joe was a great father but Michael, the meanie, dismissed his enormous love displays as abuse!

So, don't get admired whenever she/he defends the Jacksons. Notice how Ginvid says Michael got a negative image of himself from being teased but NEVER says who teased him (that would be putting Joe in check!).
 
marebear said:
I do understand where Janet is coming from. My sister and I have said things to each other growing up not so nice and it is hurtful. I don't like how the media is singling out Michael here. Just reading part of the interview a few posts above, Meredith Viera is focusing on what Michael did.

Janet is saying he didn't mean to be cruel and that the other brothers teased her too but the media just focus on Michael. It gets annoying the way it gets twisted to make Michael look bad by the media.
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And Janet, an innocent girl who entered the showbiz yesterday, did not anticipate it would happen. Give me a break.
 
She never called him an idiot. Small potatoes, I know, but that is just to be clear. And I think it's ridiculous how some "fans" will go out of their way to bash someone for something that is obviously, and clearly responsible, feasible, and probable.

And what the heck do you look like? What gives you the right to label her "fat". She is not fat at all. It's a shame when a person has to resort to 1st grade antics to try to prove a point. It's not necessary and it is not right. MJ did call her names as he said he did. He did mistreat her. And he was big enought to apologize for it. When someone scars you with words, it can take a lifetime to get over it. As a "fan" of MJ, you should at least be able to understand this. MJ is not all good, he made mistakes. but what separated him from so many others, he admitted when he was wrong. He tried to hold himself to a higher level. And it was reflected in the kind of person he came to be.

MJ doesn't have to defend himself in this regard. he already publicly admitted this mistake. janet spoke about this when he was alive. And she is simply explaining what led her to where she is in her life. It is only common sense that being his sister, a close sister at the time, that what he said and did had an enormous effect on her. Shoot many of us never met MJ and can recognize the huge influence he had/has in our lives. Imagine being upclose and personal with him. Imagine knowing him one on one.

Now, all of the other drug addict talk, and so forth, I agree, there is no defending her on this. She deserves IMHO, all the back talk she gets for that malicious act of hers. But I cannot and I will not stick my nose down at her for this.
 
Janet had to know Michael would be singled out because he was singled out before when she made these same comments. Janet said this back in 2007 during one of her other new albums. In my opinion she doesn't care that she is throwing her dead brother under the bus once again. She has to be doing this intentionally, she knows how the media works against Michael. She doesn't have his back and hasn't for a very long time. How can you have your brother's back but you call him a drug addict in denial and now accuse him of verbally abusing you?
 
MJStorm said:
And Janet, an innocent girl who entered the showbiz yesterday, did not anticipate it would happen. Give me a break.
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Shhhhhh...don't talk trash about the Jacksons. Pretend they're actually not amoral, mentally challenged people. Otherwise, you'll get banned.

Cuidado Storm!

Michael was verbally abusive to her. He did mistakes too! But, hey (!), when Joe insulted Michael with the most mean spirited insults one can imagine, he was just being an old school dad! But Michael, the sensitive one dismissed it as abuse. How could he?
 
That's why I don't want to watch anymore interviews with the family. It just seems like the give the media the opportunity to take a jab at Michael. She says Michael said this to her and everything else she says gets ignored. If he apologized to her I don't see where she says that. The media will ignore it anyways.
 
pilinlim said:
Shhhhhh...don't talk trash about the Jacksons. Pretend they're actually not amoral, mentally challenged people. Otherwise, you'll get banned.

Cuidado Storm!
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Wow! Look who's projecting.
 
marebear said:
That's why I don't want to watch anymore interviews with the family. It just seems like the give the media the opportunity to take a jab at Michael. She says Michael said this to her and everything else she says gets ignored.
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yep and she knows that.. Meredith only wanted to talk to her because of MJ. Meredith doesn't care about that book or her tour.

Didn't Janet say she was not going to talk about MJ anymore? and why would she dedicate that book to him even though she didn't grieve over his death?
 
StacyJ said:
yep and she knows that.. Meredith only wanted to talk to her because of MJ. Meredith doesn't care about that book or her tour.

Didn't Janet say she was not going to talk about MJ anymore? and why would she dedicate that book to him even though she didn't grieve over his death?
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If she mentions Michael in her book etc then that's opening the door for people to talk to her about Michael. They will jump on that.
 
ginvid said:
She never called him an idiot. Small potatoes, I know, but that is just to be clear. And I think it's ridiculous how some "fans" will go out of their way to bash someone for something that is obviously, and clearly responsible, feasible, and probable.

And what the heck do you look like? What gives you the right to label her "fat". She is not fat at all. It's a shame when a person has to resort to 1st grade antics to try to prove a point. It's not necessary and it is not right. MJ did call her names as he said he did. He did mistreat her. And he was big enought to apologize for it. When someone scars you with words, it can take a lifetime to get over it. As a "fan" of MJ, you should at least be able to understand this. MJ is not all good, he made mistakes. but what separated him from so many others, he admitted when he was wrong. He tried to hold himself to a higher level. And it was reflected in the kind of person he came to be.

MJ doesn't have to defend himself in this regard. he already publicly admitted this mistake. janet spoke about this when he was alive. And she is simply explaining what led her to where she is in her life. It is only common sense that being his sister, a close sister at the time, that what he said and did had an enormous effect on her. Shoot many of us never met MJ and can recognize the huge influence he had/has in our lives. Imagine being upclose and personal with him. Imagine knowing him one on one.

Now, all of the other drug addict talk, and so forth, I agree, there is no defending her on this. She deserves IMHO, all the back talk she gets for that malicious act of hers. But I cannot and I will not stick my nose down at her for this.
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Did You want her to say the word "idiot"? Really?

Janet is false but not stupid.

While I think you will continue to defend that woman no matter what..

And what's wrong with her being fat?

She is fat.

Do you prefer me to say that she is a bad singer? I can tell, it's true.

The only shame here, Mr. Staff, is that Michael Jackson is dead and his sister is clearly taking advantage of the situation in a disgusting way. You do not need to have 1st grade to see that.

The truth is visible to everyone.

And please, do not say that MJ has errors and that he was human. Nobody here is stupid.

And yes, he does have to defend himself about that. The man is dead. This woman knows the meaning of the word "respect"?
 
I do not want to fight, but this family has serious problems, including mental problems. MJ's children are being cared for by a grandmother who sell them to TV advertising in exchange for a book.

Did all You forget she and Grandpa Joe wanted to sell even belts with the signing of the children?

After we have Auntie Janet calling MJ an addict on national TV, as she talks about a new movie, of course.

For God's sake. Tell me I'm not the only one to see it here. My sense of morality and decency is outdated????
 
I do not want to fight, but this family has serious problems, including mental problems.
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People have been saying the same thing about Michael for decades.

After we have Auntie Janet calling MJ an addict on national TV, as she talks about a new movie, of course.
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Janet said she felt her brother had a problem with drugs, Michael died from drugs(propofol and benzos are drugs) what do you expect her to say when asked about his death. She has to work, she was promoting her movie on Oprah and of course oprah was gonna has her about the death of her brother aka arguably the greatest entertainer of all time.

MJStorm said:
Did You want her to say the word "idiot"? Really?

Janet is false but not stupid.

While I think you will continue to defend that woman no matter what..

And what's wrong with her being fat?

She is fat.

Do you prefer me to say that she is a bad singer? I can tell, it's true.

The only shame here, Mr. Staff, is that Michael Jackson is dead and his sister is clearly taking advantage of the situation in a disgusting way. You do not need to have 1st grade to see that.

The truth is visible to everyone.

And please, do not say that MJ has errors and that he was human. Nobody here is stupid.

And yes, he does have to defend himself about that. The man is dead. This woman knows the meaning of the word "respect"?
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She is not fat and even so it's rude to call someone names. What about the names Michael called as a teen like big nose, that's rude it's hard growing up in front of the public and being judged. janet said she didn't think he was trying to be mean but things like that affect some people. Jnaet announced she was writing about about her weight issues and self esteem problem in 2006, 3 years before Michael died. Janet doesn't need to use Michael she bears her own publicity. If you aren't intrested in the book simply don't buy it.

I don't understand how so many in here can hate janet so much or could supposedly care less about what she has to say or do but can't keep out of a thread about her. Alot of post by the same posters are so redundant.
 
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Do you want to compare Janet with Michael Jackson?? Wake up! Janet is a nobody and she needs the name "Michael Jackson" more than ever. All the news that I read about the interview speak only about Michael. Nobody gives a damn about a decadent singer trying to teach how to lose weight.
 
MJStorm said:
Do you want to compare Janet with Michael Jackson?? Wake up! Janet is a nobody and she needs the name "Michael Jackson" more than ever. All the news that I read about the interview speak only about Michael. Nobody gives a damn about a decadent singer trying to teach how to lose weight.
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I don't need to compare them, whay would i? Michael was probably the most famous person alive but that doesn't mean there are other famous people int he world. You are kidding yourself if you think Janet is a nobody.

The media is fickle, before he passed I am sure you remember the press referring to him as an 80's superstar or a former star, or washed up and etc. When some dies they're glorified again. Michael was always a news maker but for the last decade and a half of his life it was for the wrong reasons. At the end of the day he's still michael Jackson and he was mentioned in the preview clip so the media will talk about him.
 
MJStorm said:
Did You want her to say the word "idiot"? Really?

Janet is false but not stupid.

While I think you will continue to defend that woman no matter what..

And what's wrong with her being fat?

She is fat.

Do you prefer me to say that she is a bad singer? I can tell, it's true.

The only shame here, Mr. Staff, is that Michael Jackson is dead and his sister is clearly taking advantage of the situation in a disgusting way. You do not need to have 1st grade to see that.

The truth is visible to everyone.

And please, do not say that MJ has errors and that he was human. Nobody here is stupid.

And yes, he does have to defend himself about that. The man is dead. This woman knows the meaning of the word "respect"?
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Firstly, I am a woman. It is Mrs. Staff. (But thanks :))

Secondly, Janet is not fat. By any means. And yes, I think it is utterly ridiculous to have to resort to name calling to make a point. I think that as adults, you reach the point where you understand the power of your words and you at least try to have a conversation that doesn't resort to petty name calling.

Janet's singing.... Whatever. I can't say anything if someone thinks she does not sing well. (Me personally, I think she is more of an entertainer than a singer).

And while I agree with you that much of what Janet has done since MJ's death has been disrespectful IMO, I do not think that speaking about something she has spoken about years before his death, about something he admitted to and admitted he was wrong for, that scarred her for life and helped nurture a poor body image that she is fighting to overcome, is throwing MJ under the bus.

And, I reserve my judgements about it until I see the interview.

But we can agree to disagree.
 
i don't think janet was all cute ,smiley didn't say any thing to them ,and we all know she is a tomboy ,only thing is mick is not here to tell his side of story but knowing him we know the outcome .he was only one with class.
just look at the interview one sentence for other 5 brothers and whole paragraph for Michael . it is all about either selling movie ,tour,and now book.$$$$$$$$ it is all about benjamin ,forget about his legacy ,they don't care about his 3little grieving kids and what they must be going through right now.if calling dunk cause her so much problem then i am waiting for prince to write a book about how his mind was damaged when his aunt called his dad drug addict on national television. waiting for blanket and paris to blame grandma to blame for their low self esteem because she ridiculed the look of their father ,calling his nose "toothpick".waiting for all 3 kids to blame for emotional damage caused by entire jackson family because all of them have been saying every damaging thing about their dad.
And i want know about what all 3 kids think about their beloved uncle jermain "WORD TO BADD"
list is really long ,i can't think of damage done to their fragile mind by all jacksons when we know how much Michael loved them and showed them that and discipline them with out laying single finger on them.
 
Moulin Rouge said:
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Janet said she felt her brother had a problem with drugs, Michael died from drugs(propofol and benzos are drugs) what do you expect her to say when asked about his death. She has to work, she was promoting her movie on Oprah and of course oprah was gonna has her about the death of her brother aka arguably the greatest entertainer of all time.

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The thing about Janet and her answers to questions about Michael is that she sometimes acts like there is no filter on what comes out of her mouth concerning him but she was quickly refuse to answer certain questions about herself. It doesn't matter if she was on Oprah promoting a movie; that doesn't mean that she has to answer vaguely any and all issues regarding her brother.

I will say this when it comes to Janet. I'm not denying that she could have experienced self-esteem issues; she is human. But, based on certain things that she has said, I don't take things out of her mouth without questions. In some regards, it is like Lisa Marie, who spent years saying one thing about Michael yet when she tells the truth about what really went on, she slips in about this supposed last conversation between the two of them. I couldn't say that I bought the whole thing because it could very well have just been her spin once again versus the truth. At this point, I hold what Janet says in the same way. She has an act for the media. She did it when talking about trying to convince Michael to do the family tour; she would give the coy act of not saying which brother when everyone knew it was Michael. She does it when people ask how Michael's children are doing and she answers about how all of her nieces and nephews are as if she can't figure out that people are asking about those three because they are the ones whose father recently died.

One thing that I don't get. If all of this hurt her so much, then why does she readily point out with a big grin how she is still called "Dunk" by her family. Why did she not ask for that to stop?
 
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I think everyone is just tired of seeing his family on tv promoting something and talking about him and it comes across negative. People still don't see who Michael really was. All they think about when it comes to Michael are drugs, interventions and so on. Maybe someday somebody will focus on something else. I think Liza Minelli said somewhere that people will never really know all the good Michael did for people.

Does anyone know where Michael talked about this? What he said to Janet. I would like to see his thoughts on it.
 
Hey guys, i am not a Janet Jackson fan but i think you should stop calling her names.It's not right.And by the way she has built a career of her own that is pretty impressive, i don't think she needs Michael to promote her stuff.The only thing that i find a bit annoying is the fact that she could have said all this things after the trial was over because the media is literary drooling for things that will make Mike look bad.
 
Why is Janet using MJ to promote this book? What does the last time she saw MJ have to do with this book?
 
kasi said:
Hey guys, i am not a Janet Jackson fan but i think you should stop calling her names.It's not right.And by the way she has built a career of her own that is pretty impressive, i don't think she needs Michael to promote her stuff.The only thing that i find a bit annoying is the fact that she could have said all this things after the trial was over because the media is literary drooling for things that will make Mike look bad.
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I don't think she cares about the trial. She obviously refuses to be quiet about MJ and she is constantly throwing him under the bus. I really don't think she cares what happens to Murray because if she did she would be fighting for justice and denouncing Murray instead of touring and promoting a book.
 
blankyluvdoodoo said:
i don't think janet was all cute ,smiley didn't say any thing to them ,and we all know she is a tomboy ,only thing is mick is not here to tell his side of story but knowing him we know the outcome .he was only one with class.
just look at the interview one sentence for other 5 brothers and whole paragraph for Michael . it is all about either selling movie ,tour,and now book.$$$$$$$$ it is all about benjamin ,forget about his legacy ,they don't care about his 3little grieving kids and what they must be going through right now.if calling dunk cause her so much problem then i am waiting for prince to write a book about how his mind was damaged when his aunt called his dad drug addict on national television. waiting for blanket and paris to blame grandma to blame for their low self esteem because she ridiculed the look of their father ,calling his nose "toothpick".waiting for all 3 kids to blame for emotional damage caused by entire jackson family because all of them have been saying every damaging thing about their dad.
And i want know about what all 3 kids think about their beloved uncle jermain "WORD TO BADD"
list is really long ,i can't think of damage done to their fragile mind by all jacksons when we know how much Michael loved them and showed them that and discipline them with out laying single finger on them.
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Michael told his side of the story already. He admitted he called her a fat cow and other names in the Rabbi tapes, Katherine said in her book Michael was a relentess teaser. Kids do things like this all the time without realizing that it can affect someone, Janet knew he wasn't trying to purposely hurt her but he did and he said he apologized so it's not liek Jnaet is holding a grudge.

This book is Janet's story. if any fan here knew Michael and has a story they should get their published. Janet is writing about her experiences growing up and about her brothers that happen to include the king of pop but to her he is just Mike. Janet didn't single him out much about the teasing, the media did because he is Michael Jackson. Fans should know by know how thins get taken out of context, this happened with almost everything Michael did or said.

Why bring Michael's kids into this? those are her nephews and nieces, what are they to you..your idols children? Michael's children don't have fragile minds like you think, they're smart kids. You don't think they can't reason to ask about things about their father that they're interested in? Janet cares about them and if they have questions about things concerning their father they can ask about it and probably alread have.

Some of you are so dramatic, drug addict this drug addict that, newsfalsh Michael had a problem. Insomnia, dependency, stress or whatever he had a problem that wasn't dealt with accordingly. Janet said she felt her brother had a problem and if you don't agree then disregard what she has to say. What is important is that Michael death is a homocide and he died directly from what Murray administered.
 
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