Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael"/ Excerpt @pg151/New Interview Post 3743

Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

My point is, why tell the story?

and my point is that the story is already there. if he explains it and puts in into context it could be better. We'll see if this is the case when we see the book.

That didn't seem to be a problem for Frank when he supported the Jacksons claims on 20/20 now did it?

I personally wrote that I had a problem with the use of "addict".

I don't remember him once clearing up their words at all, only supporting their claims and agreeing with them.

perhaps he did but it was edited. it's really hard to make sense of a 3 minute interview. that's why I'll wait for the book - good or bad.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

wtf r these ppl all thinking mouthing off now! so disappointing, so selfish, so sad.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

Certain ppl and the media wont be happy until murray walks and mjs legacy and history is re written forever. theres alit of bidding going on right now .everyone is trying to cash in and i hope they all burn in hell for it
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

I'm sorry, but I won't be making any excuses for Frank. I always had mixed feeling about him writing a book, but tried to defend it, because it was gonna be positive etc. etc. But no more! I don't have a problem with MJ's med issues, it ain't like we didn't know about it (although I'd rather not hear anymore, if it isn't coming from MJ himself), but the TIMING of this is so wrong.

Do these people (Frank, Jacksons et al) not realize that they are essentially helping his killer get away with it, or do they simply not give a f*** as long they sell a copy of whatever they are plugging? It's beyond sad. Another thing that annoys me greatly is how all of them are throwing MJ under the bus by painting him as this reckless druggie (by not explaining any timelines or any health issues he may have had) and themselves as some heroes who tried to help him, but he won't listen and just continued to stuff himself with drugs.

It's sickening!

Good luck trying to sell that book, Frank. All these folks need to learn not to alienate the only people that may be interested in buying their crap.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

^Won't they just all do and interview together holding hands and throwing Mj under the bus for the media's enjoyment?!

now That Other Fan would argue that it's the same terminology and it's the same thing but Klein has been planning this for a while and he started setting up these interviews once his name mentioned on the trial. He says so on his private twitter and facebook. so I'll call him a more opportunistic and fame whore than other people that might have said similar things.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

Certain ppl and the media wont be happy until murray walks and mjs legacy and history is re written forever. theres alit of bidding going on right now .everyone is trying to cash in and i hope they all burn in hell for it

amen 2 that
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

The trial did have to go there with his medical issues but Frank didn't. But he hasn't always been a good friend anyway, has he? He's always had diarrhea of the mouth? Let's take a look, shall we?

He gave an interview before Michael's trial to Harvey Levin and admitted that Mike did drink wine from soda cans when of course that was one of the charges. He also outted that Mike had a secret girlfriend he was dallying with which Mike probably didn't want that info out, he did everything but name her, and Geragos had to publiclygo on the record and refute Frank' s statement about the wine in soda cans, they didn't care about the girl part.

He later gave an interview to Court tv who hated Mike and openly rallied for his conviction.

He slept with one of Michael's guests in Mike's own house, supposedly someone Mike was interested in himself, and I never understood why she got so slammed for that and Frank didn't. Not even by Mike.

He may have been a source for Friedman. After the trial, Friedman wrote that he had a spy sitting right at Michael's table. This was around the time Mike was in Bahrain and he invited the Cascios over there for the holidays. Some back then surmised he was talking about Grace or one of the bodyguards but who knows? Frank, from his interviews, doesn't seem too bright.
But whatever he is, he is wrong for this. None of this has ANYTHING to do with what happened on June 25th.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

I think that Michael gave quite enough in life. He guarded his privacy, as best he could, and he tried to have as normal a life as he could, given his extreme celebrity. I'm sure he shared private thoughts and moments with friends. I highly doubt Frank would have written such a book (or any book, about Michael) when Michael was still alive. I still think Michael deserves his privacy, and Frank should cherish the memories, privately. Guess not. . . .
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

now That Other Fan would argue that it's the same terminology and it's the same thing but Klein has been planning this for a while and he started setting up these interviews once his name mentioned on the trial. He says so on his private twitter and facebook. so I'll call him a more opportunistic and fame whore than other people that might have said similar things.
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You don't know what I think.

Or how I feel about any of it, including what I think about what Frank or The Jacksons said.... My point has one simple thing, you cannot have it both ways.

We got into terminology, because YOU tried to make it that.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

now That Other Fan would argue that it's the same terminology and it's the same thing but Klein has been planning this for a while and he started setting up these interviews once his name mentioned on the trial. He says so on his private twitter and facebook. so I'll call him a more opportunistic and fame whore than other people that might have said similar things.

Frankly all of them are pretty much the same opportunists to me. They are all using MJ's death and the trial to try and plug a product and at the same time are throwing him under the bus and making themselves as some saviors. Spare me. They can all go to hell.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

hmm i think i like ivy will wait for the book and see. im a person who likes the cascio song monster and have no problem with there friendship. I believe they were there for michael all those years. So i wait and see.
For the bodyguards after what they did no i wont read there book if it ever comes. but this i might
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

perhaps he did but it was edited. it's really hard to make sense of a 3 minute interview. that's why I'll wait for the book - good or bad.
The problem is a whole lot more people will see that 3 minute interview or read the article based on the interview than will read Frank's book. That's why when family, friends and associates of Michael's do these interviews they should choose their words carefully. By now they should all know how the media is when it comes to Michael Jackson. 20/20 is not going to bother to air whatever explanation is in Frank's book (if there is one). They already have what they want, Michael's good friend of 25 years calling him a situational addict and discussing that he hid pills from Michael on national television.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

yeah I know. You have written it the 200,678,856th time.

Because you made the conversation that. lol
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

The problem is a whole lot more people will see that 3 minute interview or read the article based on the interview than will read Frank's book. That's why when family, friends and associates of Michael's do these interviews they should choose their words carefully. By now they should all know how the media is when it comes to Michael Jackson. 20/20 is not going to bother to air whatever explanation is in Frank's book (if there is one). They already have what they want, Michael's good friend of 25 years calling him a situational addict and discussing that he hid pills from Michael on national television.

Exactly! Family and friends are giving them what they want. I don't see how they help Michael at all when they say that is what they want to do. They are making things worse.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

perhaps he did but it was edited. it's really hard to make sense of a 3 minute interview. that's why I'll wait for the book - good or bad.

And it's hard to make any sense out of how he himself wouldn't know this. And u can't blame it all on editing can u? He did finish many of his sentences from what I can remember. lol

And yes alot from trial has already been out there and by others. But, Frank added to it....and in detail about stuff many DID NOT know....WHY? :ermm:
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

I understand what Frank is saying at times Michael had issues I went back and watched Dr Allen Metzger testify and he said Michael had chronic back pain and was seeing a pain specialist for his pain. That right there told me that Michael's pain was a persistent part of his life and was not going away and he was learning how to deal with it. We also learned that Michael's insomnia was going on as far has twenty years and that the doctor himself would give Michael tylenol pm or a Xanax to get him to come down after a show. When when you are dealing with chronic issues you are going to have to deal with and at times face problems with medication. Frank was right to worry about Michael at times especially if there were people willing to give him whatever he asked for I would worry too I would tell him to be careful and Michael like anyone else would get upset what are you talking about I am in pain I am doing this to get relief. I would be offended as well. The thing with the Jacksons is they tell there story to make them look good we tried to save him I got into fights with bodyguards he was in denial blah blah blah they are trying to make themselves look good. None of them could tell you that Michael had insomnia or that Michael had back pain and I bet you they never asked. As far as the timing I don't know when Frank shot this interview I don't know how it was edited it would have been better if he did not give any interviews until the verdict was in. All you had to do was look at Michael in 01 or even in 02 to see that Michael had issues but he dealt with them and I am to far gone to worry about what some loser sitting in her kitchen in Iowa thinks about Michael.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

They are all cashing in now cause once the trial us over thats the end. its like a mad rush of vultures over the carcass
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

So this is Klien's rebuttal for "the Klien made him addicted to demoral" claim. Now Klien blames others for getting Michael addicted to prof and here we have the addiction word again. Basically, this month will be the addiction month, so lets see who will come forward next.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

And u can't blame it all on editing can u? He did finish many of his sentences from what I can remember. lol

simple answer : Bashir interview. Michael finished his sentences as well. and we all saw what the editing did when we watched what Michael's own cameras recorded.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

Frank agreed with what the Jacksons have been saying! He said so right there on the 20/20 interview. POINT BLANK!
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

What has Frank said about the interview? Did he say they took out the contextual parts? Did he say he was forced to do the interview at this time?
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

simple answer : Bashir interview. Michael finished his sentences as well.and we all saw what the editing did when we watched what Michael's own cameras recorded.
It wasn't the editing to me but, Bashirs creepy voice over. I had no problem with what MJ was saying or Bashir showing MJ holding Gavins hand. U might want to look to the media for the problem with that one.

I saw the footage u were never meant to see and alot of what was shown was still on the Bashit LWMJ too. The major issue with LWMJ was the creepy voiceover and then the holding of gavins hand and him being in the doc without permission from his mom and MJ. If Gavin was not involved at all there would have never been such an uproar. Because even in the primetime interview MJ did with Sawyer he already admitted he would still let kids come over even after the Chandler allegations so it was hardly a surprise that he said the same thing in LWMJ.

So I accept all of what MJ said on LWMJ cause he did say them and same for Frank. I'm not pretending other wise.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

Frank Cascio has already proven he can't be trusted. Nothing he says should be taken seriously.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

It wasn't the editing to me but, Bashirs creepy voice over. I had no problem with what MJ was saying or Bashir showing MJ holding Gavins hand. U might want to look to the media for the problem with that one.

I saw the footage u were never meant to see and alot of what was shown was still on the Bashit LWMJ too. The major issue with LWMJ was the creepy voiceover and then the holding of gavins hand and him being in the doc without permission from his mom and MJ. If Gavin was not involved at all there would have never been such an uproar. Because even in the primetime interview MJ did with Sawyer he already admitted he would still let kids come over even after the Chandler allegations so it was hardly a surprise that he said the same thing in LWMJ.

So I accept all of what MJ said on LWMJ cause he did say them and same for Frank. I'm not pretending other wise.


Don't forget Barbara Walters freaking role. She presented the interview here in the usa. Not only did she act like she had a major role in the big get. But every other word out of her mouth was 'DISTURBING.' For sure she played a huge part in shaping minds.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

My biggest problem with all off those giving the drug addiction interviews is that they claim to be Michaels loving and caring friends or family but at the same time they are doing things a person who really cares would never do. It doesnt matter that Michael is a public person and is medical history was discussed openly in court. It doesnt automatically gives permission to anyone to discuss it in the press. And not just that, whats more important they talk about this things during the trial, when the jury is deliberating the verdict. They are trying to gain more exposure to sell their books. This is no excuse for that.

And yes, i am more upset with Frank now than i am with the Jacksons. Actually, i was upset with the Jacksons in the same way two years ago when they first started. Now i know what to expect from them and try to not get upset. With Frank its different. I had high hopes about him and there he goes - continues with the addiction talk during the deliberations and to get people interested in his book! I am very disappointed.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

He may have been a source for Friedman. After the trial, Friedman wrote that he had a spy sitting right at Michael's table. This was around the time Mike was in Bahrain and he invited the Cascios over there for the holidays. Some back then surmised he was talking about Grace or one of the bodyguards but who knows? Frank, from his interviews, doesn't seem too bright.
But whatever he is, he is wrong for this. None of this has ANYTHING to do with what happened on June 25th.

I'm pretty sure Frank was Friedman's source. The thing about Friedman that he praises everybody who gives him information and slags off those who don't. Just read everything Friedman wrote about the Cascios! He always praised them. He was defending them for the controversial songs. And although he tended to slag off everything Michael did recently, before his death (eg. the Invincible album) he praised the "Michael" album like crazy (when in fact it's clearly inferior to Vince). He also seemed to have pretty much spot on insider information about Michael at times that other journalists didn't have. I have to give credit to Frank though, because the articles written by Friedman during the trial were mostly very good and spot on - and at least they balanced out the anti-MJ propaganda elsewhere. Also we don't know if Frank has been a source for Friedman with Michael's permission or not.
 
Loveliness;3529759 said:
There's no general consensus between fans, as we're all different people. Personally, I can't stand tell-alls about a person after their death, because the person in question has no say in refuting it or offering further explanation. Given his premature death, and his desire for privacy, we'll never know all there is to know about Michael Jackson — some people really need to come to terms with that. Nor do we deserve to know everything about him. And it should be that way, after-all, we don't need know everything about our dentists for example. Why do we feel we should know everything about an entertainers personal life? To dissect his work is fair game, and I support Vogel's book for that reason. But the man's naked corpse was displayed on morning television, I feel he's been feasted on enough. When will people be satisfied, when will enough be enough? I'd like for the man to have some dignity and privacy left, as I would for any decent human being. The book's not out, so I won't judge it, but right now I'm not feeling good about what's being divulged.

This.
I wasn't interested in the book for the reasons explained in the quoted post,but I'm beyond repulsed,not only by Frank,but by everyone cashing in right now.They're talking and running with the "in" story because it sells now and they don't give a phuck about anything but themselves and their filthy pockets.
I don't care about who they are or what relationship they had with Michael.I don't care about their reasons or about what they think they're entitled to do or say.I just want them to shut up and stop being so friggin self-serving,arrogant and disrespectful.Really.Just-shut-up.Enough.
Particularly at this time,when we're still waiting for a verdict.None of them have an ounce of dignity.

And yes,sadly,the most intimate details of Michael's medical history were discussed in court.That had to be done and it was a legal proceeding.It doesn't mean it's fair game to make them the subject of interviews or tell-all books because of that,in my eyes.

I can't judge the book,but frankly,after this,I don't care.It can go to hell along with its author.And the rest of them leeches.
 
Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

How about Lisa Marie telling us that Michael felt that his end could be like Elvis?

Furthermore I'm not sure if anyone knows Elvis's drug problems. First of all he never used recreational drugs. He got prescription drugs. He had sleep problems going back to his childhood which got worse after he went to the war. He was said to not to be able to sleep more than 3 hours, he suffered serious insomnia. His initial treatment and drug use was due to insomnia. He used weight loss pills. He later used uppers (to function during daytime) and downers (to be able to sleep at night). He experienced several overdoses due to benzos and demerol. At the end his organs was weakened by the drug use which is believed to be the contributing factor to his heart stopping.

as you can see Elvis's insomnia and background for starting the drugs is not that different from Michael's reasons. From autopsy it's a clear that Michael was no where close to Elvis.

I haven't seen all LMP interviews (I don't really care what she has to say), but the one that I saw, she was rather drawing bigger parallels than detailed ones. The parallels were that they both were surrounded by wrong people, they both overused drugs/medicine for one reason or another (because they were surrounded by the wrong people who caused/allowed it), they both died too soon, and they both died in the same street (same house? or a house across the street in Elvis's case?)

Also, pain and anxiety and other related issues are so subjective that that is why people get into these gray areas with the terms and can easily accept medication for blood pressure and diabetes from these medications. Michael obviously had medical reasons for the medications. Yet, some people may say, I understand this hurts but does it really hurt to the point that you need the medication or is it just that you don't want to feel even the slightest pain; for some the second option would imply that you are taking the medication too much or needlessly. For example, with Michael's insomnia, there are people who will never get what insomnia is to the degree that it drives a person to ask for propofol; no matter how much any of us would have been concerned and understanding of Michael's sleep problem, how many would have not given a second thought to knowing he was taking propofol for it?

Which means that before speaking Frank should first think "friendship" then "promotion" and not the other way round.

For those who truly knew Michael and cared about him, his issues were private and kept that way. Things coming out now are for different reasons, depending upon the people. For some, it is to boost themselves/their importance. For others, it is to be the "savior" role. For some, it was forced (as in Ortega's position) due to court proceedings. And for some, it is to put out what they knew to be true about all that is floating out there in the media. I'd rather have Frank explaining what situations he saw Michael needing medication, than for the media to act as if he was just taking it for the fun of it. The only way to set the record straight would be to talk about it.

Frank apparently cared well before his death. K. Ortega cared. And others. But they dealt with Michael as they should have because while Michael was here, it was up to him what would be discussed in public or not. That is what should have happened.

I'd rather not have an non-expert in medicine talking about anyone's medical history. And especially not saying it at this crucial point of the trial.

As fans we are interesting..

J. Randy Taraborelli writes a book and we trash it because we believe he wasn't that close to Michael he claims. Then comes a person that was close to Michael for 25 years but we are not happy with that, we see that as a betrayal of privacy..

We look out for every little tidbit about the Michael to understand the real man better, but when we are given the real man - with his good sides and bad sides - we aren't happy.

We are a hard to please bunch that's for sure.

All depends what has been said. Michael did have many backstabbers in his life (not the Cascios) and Michael will have backstabbers now that he's dead judging on what some people say. The otherway round is true to. We all of sudden witness a bunch of people coming out talking about Michael and claiming so many different things that in th eend appears to be either unimportant or actually harming Michael's reputation including his legacy.

This is something that I will agree with. What matters in the end is the source.

I don't get how people who read or watch various things about Michael get so upset that there is a book about him from someone who actually had a close friendship and who hasn't portrayed any obvious agenda other than writing about his friend. Maybe he is fed up with hearing other people talk about who Michael is without really being there over the span of so many important things in his life. And some of the non-important things, too, that just makes up life.

He was certainly not fed up with people saying that Mike was a drug addict, cuz he felt the urge to say it.

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Klein says Jackson was "totally addicted to propofol," and over the years, Jackson had other doctors administer propofol to him. Klein alleges he was involved in three interventions.

I guess I need start a thread about it but where.

Of course, he has also a big part of responsibility in prescribing unorthodox things to Mike. So he feels the need to blame Michael for that.

simple answer : Bashir interview. Michael finished his sentences as well. and we all saw what the editing did when we watched what Michael's own cameras recorded.

What exactly was wrong with Bashir's editing? Nothing. The interviewee (Michael) didn't do or say anything wrong even in the edited version. So you are comparing respectively the interviewer's (Bashir's) words with the interviewee's (Frank's) words and blame the editing? For a person who thinks logically where has your logic gone? Why not comparing the interviwees' answers rather than mixing up the voice-over and the answers in the interviews?
 
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Re: Frank Cascio to write memoir of his friend Michael Jackson / press release at pg12 / Nov 15 ,201

So this is Klien's rebuttal for "the Klien made him addicted to demoral" claim. Now Klien blames others for getting Michael addicted to prof and here we have the addiction word again. Basically, this month will be the addiction month, so lets see who will come forward next.

Well, we haven't heard anything new from Karen for some time now :ermm:
 
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