Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael"/ Excerpt @pg151/New Interview Post 3743

[serendipity]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

See, that's why I really hate all these "Michael told me this and that" stories coming from all these people, trying to sell or promote something. Conflicting, contradicting and nonsensical stories... I wish all of them would just shut the hell up and disappear somewhere. If they had something to say they should've said it while he was still here, period.

And at the end of the day, MJ only gains negative publicity from all this and further tarnishing of his reputation. That's the sad result no matter how you try to spin it.

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

And at the end of the day, MJ only gains negative publicity from all this and further tarnishing of his reputation. That's the sad result no matter how you try to spin it.

The damage was done by those greedy individuals who accused Michael of disgusting crimes. Those are responsible. End of story.

To lay blame on a friend, fans reading a book etc- waste of time.

Chandlers at large, Arvizos, Sneddon and every last corrupt individual in law enforcement. Those in the media carry their part of the story as well. If the media turns every uttering into a disgusting butcher fest at the expense of Michael Jackson, then that is fault of those individuals perpetrating the defamation- and no one else's. It is not your job in life to babysit Drew Pinsky, Joy Behar and Nancy whatever. Only they are responsible for the disgustingness they chose to distribute, and nobody else. They are the ones that carry the burden of hounding a now dead man.

Friends and fans are NOT responsible for 'further tarnishing' of anything. Enough already.

Talk about 'damaging' and hurting someone. I hardly doubt that the author of this book woke up one day and said, hey, yeah, lemme write a book so I can do some damage. Talk about Diane Demon this way if you must. Seriously. It must be incredibly upsetting when a bunch of internet folks condemns someone for the hurtful actions of someone else.
I wished that understood that it is absolutely not okay to condemn people and accuse them of being the 'damagers of Michael Jackson's legacy' (whatever that hollow phrase means)- just because some heartless media person is the one doing the actual defamation.

But I guess this kind of blame laying is the most successful 'divide and conquer' I have EVER seen in my life. Last I checked the accuser's names were "Chandler" and "Arvizo", not Cascio.

Talk about generalized defamation. MJ fans are experts in defaming just about everyone under the sun. (mean generalizing, pun intended)

 

[MsCassieMollie]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Korgnex is also reading it. and please consider doing summaries for us all.

Yes I wanna know what Dieter says...

 

[KOPV]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

you know there is something wrong if fingers are pointed at EVERYONE.... We can't claim to be giving fair judgement and acting rationally if that is the case.

 

[MsCassieMollie]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showpost.php?p=8638796&postcount=665

I've been reading the book, and I don't really see anything that will change anyone's opinion about Michael. Most people who have an opinion about Michael, if they care at all, are pretty much entrenched in their opinions. The book is a decent read thus far, but I'm a detailed-oriented person and I noted some mistakes. He recalls how Michael told him that Jermaine used to chase him and RANDY out from underneath the beds. It was MARLON, not Randy. Also, he calls Bill Bray Michael's personal manager, and he was not. He also makes some assumptions and statements about Michael's early life, which he obviously could not do because he was not even a thought in the universe at the time.

 

[serendipity]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

The damage was done by those greedy individuals who accused Michael of disgusting crimes. Those are responsible. End of story.

To lay blame on a friend, fans reading a book etc- waste of time.

Chandlers at large, Arvizos, Sneddon and every last corrupt individual in law enforcement. Those in the media carry their part of the story as well. If the media turns every uttering into a disgusting butcher fest at the expense of Michael Jackson, then that is fault of those individuals perpetrating the defamation- and no one else's. It is not your job in life to babysit Drew Pinsky, Joy Behar and Nancy whatever. Only they are responsible for the disgustingness they chose to distribute, and nobody else.

Friends and fans are NOT responsible for 'further tarnishing' of anything. Enough already.

There's no need to give them ammunition though. Being a little smarter in this could go a long way. Playing right into their hands is so easily avoidable.

 

[missred07]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

^Maybe. But to hire gregaros (crim lawyer) and get all those statements from the arvizos on video tape and audio tape suggests the mj camp were suspicious of the arvizos esp after finding out about the jc penny lawsuit. Frank knew of all the media camped outside the arvizo house offering thousands for a good story. Anyway, i'm talking with hindsight here, i just wish something could have been done to avoid what happened next ie arvizos going to sneddon.

Yes, Base on the end result, I think we all keep thinking what if. However, it's hard to know what Arvizos would go so far at that time. Frank also said MJ told him to be nice. Don't blame the kids etc. Frank did have his suspicious and said Jordy's case is similar like this. Jordy is a good kid and his father did all those things. They tried to do things like not having MJ alone with the kids in case something happened. Frank said he was angry to MJ to let Gavin had access back to his life. (He said MJ can't say no to kids and MJ doesn't like to disappoint the kids.) He was more angry to himself not being aggressive enough to keep Arvizos family away from MJ.

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

There's no need to give them ammunition though. Being a little smarter in this could go a long way. Playing right into their hands is so easily avoidable.

Those that accused an innocent Michael Jackson of DISGUSTING crimes are responsible. No excuse.

I guess people really can't see hypocrisy in action. Is Michael Jackson also responsible for having been accused, because he 'gave them ammunition'? Heck, the fact that he was alive and "Michael Jackson" was ammunition.

Accusing others of being irresponsible relieves those off the guilt who actually carry that burden.

I'll repeat it. Those that accused and helped to accuse an innocent man are responsible for slaughtering Michael Jackson on a pedestal for the world to see. And no one else.

 

[KOPV]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

this book does much more good than anything.....

1) it brings a human/relatable side to Michael Jackson that people don't usually see.. the more relatable a person can be the more accepting people would be..

2) when it comes to MJ there is a fact that runs true for the most part.. people are passionate about Michael, even the haters passionatly hate on him... Picture this -- someone you hated, his friend came up to you and basically stated why he is great and why you should like him. It would be human nature to shut down and ignore what that friend is saying because you are closed off to that possibility and there is an emotional threat.. Where as if the person you hates friend came up to you and stated "I know he's not perfect, and I know you didn't like when he did this.. The reason why he did was..." naturally a person would open up to listen and be more willing to accept the possibilities. and then that friend can put him up on a petistal and you'd think to yourself.. WOW! was I wrong..

3) His story is something that would draw interest from a much larger base than anyone else (aside from MJ himself) WHY?? Because to even haters they have to be interested in the fact that he was a young boy that was with MJ, even slept in his room. Yet is publically showcasing that there friendship was pure.. I think that fact gets overshadowed by fans because we get so worried of judgement of how MJ died.. But the truth is, he is waving a flag (even if its without knowing) saying.. HEY MICHAEL JACKSON IS INNOCENT AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK.. I KNOW.. I WAS THERE!!

What more positive can we get? and to me the best part is its believable.. Haters are not going to believe a fairytale version of MJ.. they want to believe the worst out of him. But when people are so closed off, the best way to open them up is to show the truth! and what I mean for the truth is like "here I am without makeup" type of attitude.. "Ya I was hiding my hair color.. because its grey.. but it isnt purple like you've always thought"

 

[suzynyc]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Correct me if I am wrong, I don't want to mis inform people.

Base on what Frank said. Liz came to Mexico city and told them MJ had problem and need help. After the concert, Liz took MJ to UK. Frank and Eddie accompanied MJ to the airport and said goodbye to him. MJ was sent to rehab. Few years later "MJ told him" that his advisers want to avoid him being arrested if he stepped on US soil. His advisers think the addiction things is the only way to get insurance coverage. So ya, basically he said MJ told him this story. Frank didn't say it's a ploy. He just said it's the explanation MJ gave to him about the rehab.

If we assume Frank is telling the truth, it might be MJ didn't want them to think he had addiction problem. Who knows.

But according to Frank, he and his brother visited Michael in a rehab facility which he was transferred to after the first one. The Cascio family often spoke to Michael on the phone from the first facility and he complained to them about how the hospital staff was treating him. So it doesn't seem like Michael was hiding his addiction problem from the kids. I mean, how could they not know where they were?

 

[suzynyc]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Frank is not doing the same thing calling it a ploy. Frank didn't said it's a ploy. He just said MJ gave this explanation to him about the rehab incident. As for is he honest about this? I don't know. Only MJ and Frank knew whether MJ did told him in this way.

Oops, I probably could have chosen a better word than ploy in my question. I was in a hurry and couldn't gather my thoughts correctly. But yes, Frank says in later years that is what Michael explained to him. But I'm still confused hehe.

 

[serendipity]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Those that accused an innocent Michael Jackson of DISGUSTING crimes are responsible. No excuse.

I guess people really can't see hypocrisy in action. Is Michael Jackson also responsible for having been accused, because he 'gave them ammunition'? Heck, the fact that he was alive and "Michael Jackson" was ammunition.

Accusing others of being irresponsible relieves those off the guilt who actually carry that burden.

I'll repeat it. Those that accused and helped to accuse an innocent man are responsible for slaughtering Michael Jackson on a pedestal for the world to see. And no one else.

If Michael ever gave them ammo he didn't do it at the expense of someone else. Those people that are now out there selling/promoting ish and flapping their gums are doing it at someone else's expense. When does it stop?

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Seems like Michael was not always honest with Frank or let's say omitted the truth and information.

In red > I have the feeling that Michael did it with everyone around him. You know, you should NEVER tell everything about you to others.

I believe there is no one in this world who knows everything about Michael Jackson. Michael was intriguing.

FACT!!! -_-

I think the main issue is that Michael wouldn't have wanted private things to be revealed in the first place.

But it is STILL things Michael did not want us to know..

FACT! -_-

That's why I say that these people who say things: that Michael said, that they saw and heard a lot and so know a lot and bla bla bla should have a gag in the mouth. -_- :shutup:

OK, I know now that Michael is not here must be very difficult to keep mouth shut :smilerolleyes: because there are a great desire to share things. :whisperinginear BUT No one can forget that Michael was a very private man and I doubt that he would like to know what people are telling things about his private life out there. :bugeyed

For me it is a fact, if Michael was still here... no one would be telling a lot of things about him :nono:, no one would take from the mouth gag. :nono: :shutup: -_- :fear:

 

[Bonnie Blue]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

They tried to do things like not having MJ alone with the kids in case something happened.

Really? That's a pretty important piece of info. I always thought that if mj's camp was so suspicious of the arvizos after the brouhaha of teh bashir documentary it was odd to let them roam around neverland whilst mj was there. No one in the 05 trial refuted the allegation that gavin slept in mj's bedroom during feb/march 03. There was indirect testimony from a maid who said that the unit the arvizos were staying in was always untidy each day suggesting they were living there and chris tucker's gf testified that janet told her mj's staff were keeping mj away from her children. To have alibis for mj saying he was never alone with the chldren would have been huge. It just shows how blatently corrupt sneddon was with his ridiculous conspiracy charge. He included all the staff round mj who were shielding him from the family as non-indicted co-conspirators to stop them testifying or at least to tarnish their testimony if they did decide to speak in court. This was prob why tmez didn't see the point in letting frank take the stand as his testimony wd be made to be seen as self-serving.

There really needs to be a serious book and expose on the 05 trial. Tmez was approached i think in 05 to do one with the foreman of the jury but it fell through as he wasn't prepared to damage mj's reputation. It's crazy that every big us tv trial like casey anthony and scott peterson there are books, but with mj, teh biggest trial, nothing.

 

[moodyblue97]

you misread it.What she wrote was that Michael told her he had ONE WOMAN..and just one woman that he loved besides his mother,

He didn´t tell this with only me there, he was upset and started to ramble. And I understand now I shouldn´t have written that. But.. since Frank could write those private things in his book I felt I could say at least something. I´m not sure I was trying to debunk anything he said, I know a few things is fabricated. The Emily issue, that is why I wrote about what he said about the woman, I first thought about not including it but it felt it would make less sense if I didn´t.
And I didn´t mean Frank put women by his side, he didn´t, that was the people around the trial that did. Sorry if it sounded like I meant Frank, I didn´t. It was more about the seducing fans thing I thought about Frank. I don´t know for sure. I just thought about it.

And Munich 99. we were a few in in his suite with lots of kids and family members. Unless the doctor came 5 am after Michael went to his bedroom I doubt any propfol being given to him. But the night he spent at the hospital I have no idea about. It took a very long time before we got to know that he was okay.

And did he say his Mother was at the birth of the two oldest and that she went with Michael to pick up Blanket?

 

[Ashtanga]

He didn´t tell this with only me there, he was upset and started to ramble. And I understand now I shouldn´t have written that. But.. since Frank could write those private things in his book I felt I could say at least something. I´m not sure I was trying to debunk anything he said, I know a few things is fabricated. The Emily issue, that is why I wrote about what he said about the woman, I first thought about not including it but it felt it would make less sense if I didn´t.
And I didn´t mean Frank put women by his side, he didn´t, that was the people around the trial that did. Sorry if it sounded like I meant Frank, I didn´t. It was more about the seducing fans thing I thought about Frank. I don´t know for sure. I just thought about it.

And Munich 99. we were a few in in his suite with lots of kids and family members. Unless the doctor came 5 am after Michael went to his bedroom I doubt any propfol being given to him. But the night he spent at the hospital I have no idea about. It took a very long time before we got to know that he was okay.

:bugeyed



:doh:



It is not because others are doing you will also do.

And did he say his Mother was at the birth of the two oldest and that she went with Michael to pick up Blanket?

And there comes more stories to share.... :girl_whistle: :smilerolleyes: Who cares? :blink: Leave Blanket and his mother aside. This issue does not concern us. -_- :fear:

 

[bouee]

The Emily issue, that is why I wrote about what he said about the woman, I first thought about not including it but it felt it would make less sense if I didn´t.

Sorry if I sound like I missed something, but what's the Emily issue ? Joanna ?

 

[moodyblue97]

Sorry if I sound like I missed something, but what's the Emily issue ? Joanna ?

Someone gave me an excerpt about a woman Frank called Emily, it´s not her real name. And it´s not about Joanna.

 

[bouee]

Someone gave me an excerpt about a woman Frank called Emily, it´s not her real name. And it´s not about Joanna.

Thanks, and what does Frank say about this Emily ? It seems like you think that what he says about her is not true ?

 

[Ashtanga]

Someone gave me an excerpt about a woman Frank called Emily, it´s not her real name. And it´s not about Joanna.

WOW!!!!!!! :fear:

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Michael definetly had people he considered his Friends in his life that cause THE damage and people questioning his life because what they have said. To name a few The Chandlers (Who started it all with the alleagtions), Dr. KLein ( the reason the drug addiction story was started), Mark Lester ( questioning MJ children paternity) and so on. So it was more then just Sneedon and people like Diane Dimond and other media folks who just fed off this ish. So when we have yet another friend spilling the beans some have reason to be concern. Especially when 1 of the 3 main things people question and cause damage to MJ image come up again in the news because of yet another friend having to say something instead of lettin the man R.I.P. Seriously it havn't even mean 5 yrs yet that he's been gone. But, everybody gotta have a say don't they?!

 

[ivy]

He didn´t tell this with only me there, he was upset and started to ramble. And I understand now I shouldn´t have written that. But.. since Frank could write those private things in his book I felt I could say at least something.

the issue wasn't with you writing anything. the issue was how people that were against Frank's private info was okay with yours.

I´m not sure I was trying to debunk anything he said, I know a few things is fabricated. The Emily issue, that is why I wrote about what he said about the woman, I first thought about not including it but it felt it would make less sense if I didn´t.

why do you think Emily is fabricated? Emily according to Frank is a woman that visited Neverland for a year and that Michael seemed to be friendly with. Frank says she never spent the night at Michael's room and he cannot say for certain if they were intimate or not. He only claims Emily to be a friend to Michael. Is it impossible for Michael to have a female friend?

And I didn´t mean Frank put women by his side, he didn´t, that was the people around the trial that did. Sorry if it sounded like I meant Frank, I didn´t. It was more about the seducing fans thing I thought about Frank. I don´t know for sure. I just thought about it.

thank you for clarifying that.

And Munich 99. we were a few in in his suite with lots of kids and family members. Unless the doctor came 5 am after Michael went to his bedroom I doubt any propfol being given to him. But the night he spent at the hospital I have no idea about. It took a very long time before we got to know that he was okay.

from the book

"By the time we finally made it back to the hotel, it was five in the morning.". So it's the night of the bridge fall after 5 am.

And did he say his Mother was at the birth of the two oldest and that she went with Michael to pick up Blanket?

parts from book about Paris and Blanket are below. They weren't with Michael when Prince was born. Frank says that Michael called them when Prince was born and they were at NJ at the time. They just talked on the phone. For Paris and Blanket Frank says his mother was at Neverland during those times.

Before Paris was born, Michael asked my mother to fly out to Neverland. I guess he wanted to have family with him: he didn’t want his kids to always be with the nannies, and he knew how much my mother loves children. On Paris’s birth date, April 3, 1998, my mother was at Neverland with Prince, waiting for Michael and the newborn baby to come home from the hospital. Michael was

In February 2002, my parents went to Neverland for Blanket’s birth and Prince’s fifth birthday. My mother was with Michael when he picked up the baby from the surrogate’s representative at a hotel. They brought baby Prince Michael Jackson II back to Neverland on a private luxury bus.

 

[moodyblue97]

the issue wasn't with you writing anything. the issue was how people that were against Frank's private info was okay with yours.




why do you think Emily is fabricated? Emily according to Frank is a woman that visited Neverland for a year and that Michael seemed to be friendly with. Frank says she never spent the night at Michael's room and he cannot say for certain if they were intimate or not. He only claims Emily to be a friend to Michael. Is it impossible for Michael to have a female friend?




thank you for clarifying that.



from the book

"By the time we finally made it back to the hotel, it was five in the morning.". So it's the night of the bridge fall after 5 am.



parts from book about Paris and Blanket are below. They weren't with Michael when Prince was born. Frank says that Michael called them when Prince was born and they were at NJ at the time. They just talked on the phone. For Paris and Blanket Frank says his mother was at Neverland during those times.

Before Paris was born, Michael asked my mother to fly out to Neverland. I guess he wanted to have family with him: he didn’t want his kids to always be with the nannies, and he knew how much my mother loves children. On Paris’s birth date, April 3, 1998, my mother was at Neverland with Prince, waiting for Michael and the newborn baby to come home from the hospital. Michael was

In February 2002, my parents went to Neverland for Blanket’s birth and Prince’s fifth birthday. My mother was with Michael when he picked up the baby from the surrogate’s representative at a hotel. They brought baby Prince Michael Jackson II back to Neverland on a private luxury bus.

No it´s absolutly not impossible for him to have a female friend, he had many of them. But what I was told and read, he said it was romantic.

And about Munich, I´m talking about the other nights there. Not the night on the bridgefall. It was the two other nights. And then he went to Paris after that.

And thanks for telling about what he wrote about the kids. Nothing about the hospital in San Diego then?

 

[ivy]

No it´s absolutly not impossible for him to have a female friend, he had many of them. But what I was told and read, he said it was romantic.

what did you read I'm curious?

I'll quote some parts from the book

Around this time, Michael had another friend—I’ll call her Emily—who visited the ranch regularly.

They just liked spending time together—talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn’t tell anyone about Emily but me.

even I didn’t see real evidence of the romance. That’s how I knew he was telling the truth.

(talking about being intimate) With Emily, to be honest, I’m not sure, but I know in her he found a companion, a friend.

So overall you have Frank not seeing any romance, not seeing any intimacy but assuming there was romance (but probably not intimacy) because Michael was very private about this girl. It's just his assumption and he's clear about that.

 

[KOPV]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

to line Frank up with other people that Michael associated with like Klien is rediculous.. Michael and Klien had more so a working relatioship that may have leaked a little pass that.. Now Frank who was basically family to Michael since the age of 4 years old, traveled around the world with him, lived with him for portions of his life... Someone that Michael mentored and loved.. Those are two COMPLETE different scenario! And a little add in Frank did not say Michael liked pot.. he said he tried it on two occasions..

 

[moodyblue97]

what did you read I'm curious?

I'll quote some parts from the book

Around this time, Michael had another friend—I’ll call her Emily—who visited the ranch regularly.

They just liked spending time together—talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn’t tell anyone about Emily but me.

even I didn’t see real evidence of the romance. That’s how I knew he was telling the truth.

(talking about being intimate) With Emily, to be honest, I’m not sure, but I know in her he found a companion, a friend.

So overall you have Frank not seeing any romance, not seeing any intimacy but assuming there was romance (but probably not intimacy) because Michael was very private about this girl. It's just his assumption and he's clear about that.

That is what I read. I guess we read in things differently. I don´t know what time this is suppose to be, what year. That can make a changed about how I see it.

 

[LastTear]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

But according to Frank, he and his brother visited Michael in a rehab facility which he was transferred to after the first one. The Cascio family often spoke to Michael on the phone from the first facility and he complained to them about how the hospital staff was treating him. So it doesn't seem like Michael was hiding his addiction problem from the kids. I mean, how could they not know where they were?

Somebody can correct me if my memory is mistaken but as far as i can remember when Michael left the first rehab centre he moved into Elton Johns house. I believe his treatment did carry on there. It is entirely possible that the Cascios visited him there. It is because Elton reached out to him and gave him the use of his house is why Michael was so grateful to Elton.

 

[moodyblue97]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Somebody can correct me if my memory is mistaken but as far as i can remember when Michael left the first rehab centre he moved into Elton Johns house. I believe his treatment did carry on there. It is entirely possible that the Cascios visited him there. It is because Elton reached out to him and gave him the use of his house is why Michael was so grateful to Elton.

Karen Faye also say she visited him and that she stayed with him there, since he had decided to just walk out from there on day. She told a long story about this.

 

[missred07]

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Really? That's a pretty important piece of info. I always thought that if mj's camp was so suspicious of the arvizos after the brouhaha of teh bashir documentary it was odd to let them roam around neverland whilst mj was there. No one in the 05 trial refuted the allegation that gavin slept in mj's bedroom during feb/march 03. There was indirect testimony from a maid who said that the unit the arvizos were staying in was always untidy each day suggesting they were living there and chris tucker's gf testified that janet told her mj's staff were keeping mj away from her children. To have alibis for mj saying he was never alone with the chldren would have been huge. It just shows how blatently corrupt sneddon was with his ridiculous conspiracy charge. He included all the staff round mj who were shielding him from the family as non-indicted co-conspirators to stop them testifying or at least to tarnish their testimony if they did decide to speak in court. This was prob why tmez didn't see the point in letting frank take the stand as his testimony wd be made to be seen as self-serving.

There really needs to be a serious book and expose on the 05 trial. Tmez was approached i think in 05 to do one with the foreman of the jury but it fell through as he wasn't prepared to damage mj's reputation. It's crazy that every big us tv trial like casey anthony and scott peterson there are books, but with mj, teh biggest trial, nothing.

Not only the Arvizos family. If I remembered correctly, Frank also stated in the book somewhere that after the 93 cases. MJ would never let any kids around him without other adults around. MJ's joy with kids was never being "alone" with kids. MJ was being careful after 93 he didn't want anything like that happened again. Frank also mentioned that Janet would want Gavin to called them constantly to speak to MJ when they were in New York recording invincible. They would keep begging MJ and wanted him back to their life and called MJ Dad. MJ thought it's weird and suspicious but he think its' fine since they were not around and just talking through phone. This is why I said after reading that chapter you would feel really sick. The Arvizos family were really fucked up. It's not like MJ and his staff is so naive to let this thing happened. They tried everything they can to prevent it. However, Tom Sneddon is the one who was for sure after MJ. I can't see how a reasonable DA to charge MJ like that. The whole thing is insane.

 

[ivy]

That is what I read. I guess we read in things differently. I don´t know what time this is suppose to be, what year. That can make a changed about how I see it.

The time is unclear. The chapter starts with millennium and there's a mention of a London visit. So around 2000 probably - but cannot be certain.

I guess you understand Frank's writing style when you read the book better. He writes what he knows, what he doesn't know, what he's been told and what he believes and let you make your own conclusions.

for example in this "emily" you see that
he saw this woman visit neverland and spend time with michael but never spend the night
he saw no romance or intimacy
he believes there could be friendship / romance based on Michael being secretive about her.

I saw that everyone believing this to be a confirmed romance but that was just Frank's own opinion - which he clearly says so. I on the other hand saw this as at most to be a platonic relationship.