Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

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Tito's Son TJ
To Seek Temp Guardianship
of MJ's Kids

Ok, call me skeptical, but how reliable is he, considering he's Tito's offspring? How do we now that this was not Siblings' plan from the beginning?
 
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blame the ppl that caused this not the victims. the media aka x17 randys mouth piece are attacking mjs children. why are the jacksons stopping paris from speaking to her gran. they could have stopped this. but their agenda is to important

Don't even bother...
 
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Not any of Tito's kids or any other Jackson for that matter! None of them cut it, and none can be trusted. Tito signed that letter and probably has some involvement in the big pile of shit that followed. Are we to believe that TJ will support his 3 young cousins even if it means going against his father's wishes? No way.

But if the kids want it that way, and the Estate is supportive then it will be. I just don't want the kids to end up getting hurt all over again, and chances are higher if they are shuffled between the family that let them down.
 
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I doubt she would. And why should she? her uncles did the same after the letter was published (comment on twitter I mean). Difference is Paris has been active on twitter way before this happened, she's a very outspoken teenager and I don't see anything wrong with that. Michael was the same. If the media is attacking the children it's because her uncles talked crap about her and Prince. That's what Michael wouldn't want, his family attacking his children out of GREED. In general people know she's a sweetheart. Whoever believes what Randy has said about 'em is just an air-head.

Sure MJ and Paris are no mimes, but it seems she's grown to be outspoken because since he's died they let her do what she wants. If MJ was here she'd probably never have a lot of the freedom she has today. There's nothing wrong with being outspoken but a child needs discipline too. There is a time and place for everything.
 
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Ok, call me skeptical, but how reliable is he, considering he's Tito's offspring? How do we now that this was not Siblings' plan from the beginning?

And THAT would be scary.. I agree, I just cannot trust anybody related to the signers of that letter..not their sons, daughters, pets whatever.. NOT ANYMORE.
 
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So, the doctor told Mrs. J to take a plane rather than ride in an RV driven by Trent Jackson. That seems like sound advice for an 80+ year old woman.

Again, Trent is the one who filed the missing persons report - and one of those to whom the family addressed their letter last Wednesday about control and abuse.

Granted the letter shouldn't have been made public, but I'm not sure who publicized it. I AM sure that even if they'd tried to keep it private, it would have been leaked to the media anyway, what with all the interlopers, manipulators and backstabbers amidst that family and controlling Michael's estate. There's just no way the Jacksons would ever be able to write such a letter without media eventually getting hold of it and it being turned into a big sensational story.

I'll tell you why this family is seen in such a horrid and unloving way: Much of it is by design. Not all of it, but much of it is. It's PR. And high-powered entertainment lawyers and big entertainment companies are very good at it. They are adept at controlling perceptions and people via PR. Happens in politics and business / commerce all the time.

Big drug companies, tobacco companies, big insurance companies, big entertainment companies - all of them have PR people who are highly paid to create and control the public's perception of people, products, and political issues. They study which key words, concepts and phrases 'trigger' people's emotions in certain ways and they use that propaganda to manipulate public opinion for or against a person or persons, for or against products, or for or against a political issue or concept. Public Relations is big business and its experts are very much in demand because they can control public thinking.

What do people think the Jacksons have done? Kidnapped their own mother, drugged her, tied her up or hidden her body somewhere and lied to the public about it? Really? Do you honestly believe that?

I don't believe the Jackson siblings are capable of doing the horrendous things they are being accused of. I can barely believe they're being accused of them.

Neither was Michael capable of doing the horrendous things he was accused of. What you are seeing happen to the Jacksons is what happened to Michael all his life. And many of his fans are contributing to it -- buying into the sensationalism and the hysteria before even hearing from those directly involved - the family. And even when information is given -- I see people calling Jermaine a liar when he has repeatedly stated his mother is safe and when her whereabouts is known. The verbal abuse and accusations hurled at these siblings (and even in some cases Mrs. Jackson and Paris) is horrendous.

It reminds me of when Michael clearly told the public he had vitiligo and that's why his skin became lighter. Many people simply didn't believe him.

When you look at a situation like this and how the Jacksons and the story surrounding them has been manipulated by those who are controlling things, they are being negatively defined in the public's eye - just like Michael was.

Not that the Jackson's are perfect. What family is perfect? There isn't one! They've made mistakes and done dumb things. We all have. The difference is we can keep it private. They can't. Michael wasn't perfect either. He was human. He had his faults.

I just don't think some of the Jacksons are quite the demons they are being made to look like by manipulative PR stunts such as the one we have just seen.

Maybe Trent Jackson had a different reason to call in a "missing persons" report. But the fact that he was named as a recipient of that letter released last Wednesday ought to be a big clue as to what's probably going on here.

Michael Jackson fans don't own the Jacksons. Or Michael Jackson. We don't get to tell them how to run their lives or what decisions to make. We don't get to hysterically bark orders at them on twitter every time someone in the estate's camp pulls a stunt then feeds the story to the media.

If you want to demonize them by making hysterical assumptions based on sensationalized media reports, by all means go ahead. I mean, that's what destroyed Michael Jackson. For Christ's sake, don't let me stop you now. Who's next?

THANK YOU!! At Least somebody is talking sense!

This is the "Michael Experience" all over again. This time instead of Michael being the negative PR target, it's his family----AND his own children are being used as "the weapons" by Trent Jackson, the attorneys and other estaters to TRUMP the Jacksons and to get back at them for that scathing letter and for the Jacksons planning to have the estate executors INVESTIGATED!

This reminds me of what happened to Michael after he VERY PUBLICALLY went after and talked against the all powerful Sony and in particular Tommy Motolla. Not too long after that, he ended up in another sex abuse case....this time a long drawn out criminal trial that almost killed him. I see the same modus operandi happening in this situation. Speak out against and challenge and come after the big wigs----AND PAY THE PRICE.

Alot of fans are being mislead and misguided and heavily influenced and don't realize it because they cannot (or will not) allow themselves to get pass the Jackson family's personal scandals to see WHAT THE REAL DEAL IS HERE.

All this talk about 'those poor kids need to be rescued from that crazy, dangerous family'. Believe me, the Jacksons are the LAST people to worry about regarding the safety of those kids. Do you all realize how many vultures are waiting in the wings and would love to take advantage of Michael's kids---money and all? Yall better be careful what you ask for. Believe me, we're not being told the entire story like we think we are.
 
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By the way did they ever discover who leaked the letter? I mean officially? It was sent to all the executives but any word on who actually leaked it?
 
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I find it disturbing that some people are blaming, criticizing, and scrutinizing the actions of a child, who is scared, and asking for help because her grandmother, her guardian, is incommunicado.

What would be an appropriate behavior for these people on the part of the children?

Instead of watching Batman, Prince and Paris should have been at home in a fetal position, hysterically crying, 24/7 for the last 9 days? Should they have been on hunger strike from the moment Katherine left to now? Should they have been breaking everything in that home until their grandmother magically appeared to clean up the mess??

I am glad somebody in that household (nanny's, cousins, bodyguards) whomever..... allowed the kids to be distracted by a movie, a necessary distraction from the INSANITY that is being inflicted upon them by grown A** adults who lack decency and compassion for three ORPHANS!!!!

There is only ONE issue here! Three minor children have been unable to speak to their grandmother, their guardian, for over a week.

LEAVE PARIS ALONE! LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!! THEY DID NOT INSTIGATE OR CREATE THIS MESS!!!!

If some people are OK with turning a BLIND EYE, that's your choice. But when a child takes to Twitter and asks for HELP locating her grandmother, her guardian..... a decent human being, fan or not, has the right and SHOULD be CONCERNED for the WELL BEING of MICHAEL JACKSON'S CHILDREN.

And I am not sure what sort of world some people live in but when a child, irregardless of who the father is.... if a child is seeking for help! YOU HELP!!

TWO GROWN ADULTS SHOVING CAMERA'S INTO THE FACE OF TWO MINORS, TRYING TO PROVOKE AN INCIDENT......... my God, my God, what is WRONG with these people?

Yes, CLASSY!! ATTACK KIDS!! NOT THE ADULTS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE!

And to equate this with what Michael had to endure?!?!?!?!?!?!

I managed to follow 82 pages of this without posting! But enough is ENOUGH!
 
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And not to burst anyone's bubble here but if Diana Ross declines to take the kids then by law they must go to a their biological parents or family member within the Jackson family.
 
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^The real deal? Excuse me! smh...some Jackson family fans. Even when there's video evidence of them bullying Michael's children, they will turn a blind eye and talk of the 'bigger picture' aka 'conspiracy.' lol
 
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What frustrates me about this is the children being left behind WITH Trent Jackson and others. Since he is among the ones who the Jacksons called out as being manipulative with Katherine and not having her nor the kids best interests at heart and he's doing the estate's bidding to Katherine and the kids demise, WHY just get Katherine away from Trent and leave the kid's there. There's no telling what he has been putting in their heads all this time. No wonder the kids are not willing to leave with Randy and Janet.
 
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Sure MJ and Paris are no mimes, but it seems she's grown to be outspoken because since he's died they let her do what she wants. If MJ was here she'd probably never have a lot of the freedom she has today. There's nothing wrong with being outspoken but a child needs discipline too. There is a time and place for everything.

she was always like that if u read previous mj interviews. and once again she wouldnt have to tweet anything if her family had not started this and had let her speak to her gran.

it makes me laugh how just like randy and x17 the family supporters are prepaired to blame paris for what others have done. frankly it is disrespectful that its even allowed on a michael jackson board
 
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Sure MJ and Paris are no mimes, but it seems she's grown to be outspoken because since he's died they let her do what she wants. If MJ was here she'd probably never have a lot of the freedom she has today. There's nothing wrong with being outspoken but a child needs discipline too. There is a time and place for everything.

That means Katherine has failed as a guardian.
 
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Updates from HLN and such being reported on twitter by fans

Alan Duke: "I expect we're going to see some court action, whether that's criminal charges or not."

"Joe is not to be heard from. Latoya is staying way out of this." - Alan Duke.

Alan Duke was at the house last night. KJ's lawyer is staying there, nanny, 3T, KJ staff and seven ARMED guards. Much like MJ had to have..

Janet allegedly demanded the kids' passports :0
 
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Realistically, who are the children going to be comfortable living with - they've been with teh jacksons for 3 yrs now. If there hadn't been this 'wildfire of madness' - i imagine rebbie would have been the front runner so it cd have been worse. To me it was clear that Mrs j is too old to be dealing with 3 young chlidren - and i don't see a way back from the events of this week. TJ isn't likely to be inviting oprah over every other month is he for interviews?
 
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Sure MJ and Paris are no mimes, but it seems she's grown to be outspoken because since he's died they let her do what she wants. If MJ was here she'd probably never have a lot of the freedom she has today. There's nothing wrong with being outspoken but a child needs discipline too. There is a time and place for everything.
They let her do what she wants huh? how can we be so certain? The fact her father is gone doesn't mean she's teenager gone bad. If Michael was here he wouldn't deprive his children from doing the things normal kids do, you've got to remember he really cared for these children, they meant the world to him and I doubt he'd hold them back from having the kind of freedom a child their age would want and need. Discipline, he gave them and I'm sure whoever is looking after them ATM has too..I would even dare to say Katherine did too, before she turned a blind eye on them.. If there's a time and place for everything why didn't Randy or Jermaine restrain from going public about the letter on twitter? They're GROWN UPS, and supposedly should know better, I guess they need some discipline themselves first. THIS whole mess proves that.
 
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I really wish Paris would settle down on the tweets :( The media is going crazy and this is not what Michael would want.

What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children :(

That ship sailed a long time ago. Everyone knows that certain Jackson family members sell info to the media. It's kind of hypocritical for them to say that Paris needs to stop tweeting, while some of them anonymously sell info to tabloid sites.

Also, a family like the Jacksons should know that any craziness is going to blow up into a huge story. Maybe they should do their best not to get involved in craziness in the first place.
 
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Updates from HLN and such being reported on twitter by fans

Alan Duke: "I expect we're going to see some court action, whether that's criminal charges or not."

"Joe is not to be heard from. Latoya is staying way out of this." - Alan Duke.

Alan Duke was at the house last night. KJ's lawyer is staying there, nanny, 3T, KJ staff and seven ARMED guards. Much like MJ had to have..

Janet allegedly demanded the kids' passports :0

Seriously? Who the hell does she think she is...

Any single ounce of respect I might have had for Janet is now completely gone as a result of these recent events...
 
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Ivy, with all that has happened, does TJ stand a chance? Seems like the kids trust him, but it's all too soon, and too fishy for me.
 
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Katherine Jackson is not performing her duties as guardian of the children, whether its is by choice or not will not be the court's immediate concern. Paramount is the welfare of the children. These adults can hash out their problems later. Mrs. Jackson has not violated the law because she did leave a Nanny responsible for the children so CPS will not get involved. Sad to say but maybe it will be best to send the children to boarding school, that way their funds will not be available to any of the family.
 
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What frustrates me about this is the children being left behind WITH Trent Jackson and others. Since he is among the ones who the Jacksons called out as being manipulative with Katherine and not having her nor the kids best interests at heart and he's doing the estate's bidding to Katherine and the kids demise, WHY just get Katherine away from Trent and leave the kid's there. There's no telling what he has been putting in their heads all this time. No wonder the kids are not willing to leave with Randy and Janet.

i think u have answered your own question. what bidding has trent done for the estate. the only issue was inregards to not objecting to the will. and that involved her lawyer adam striesand??. the jacksons should be greatful over that as had katherine objected to the will she would have lost her inheritance and for the record i dont like trent and prince tweeted a while back about him being dodgy.trent obviously filed the police report to get back for being accused in that letter. but if paris had been able to speak to kj. no report would have been filed. trent is obviously feeding info to one outlet and the jacksons are feeding x17
 
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^The real deal? Excuse me! smh...some Jackson family fans. Even when there's video evidence of them bullying Michael's children, they will turn a blind eye and talk of the 'bigger picture' aka 'conspiracy.' lol

Haha trust me I'm only fans of Michael and Janet... everyone else... um no. I love how the media are only releasing "snippets" of footage.

Janet being involved in this is the only reason Im keeping an open mind and not blindly believing the estate. Janet knew it would get in the media and they'd twist the story. She recorded it so she can release it later. It's not the first time she's done so.
 
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The suggestion that Trent Jackson is abusing Mrs Jackson is interesting.

The family whisks her away so that she can be protected from Trent. But who is to say that this abuser would not then turn his attention to three vulnerable children in his care and start abusing them?

Well maybe Trent is only into abusing little old ladies ...
 
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Sure MJ and Paris are no mimes, but it seems she's grown to be outspoken because since he's died they let her do what she wants. If MJ was here she'd probably never have a lot of the freedom she has today. There's nothing wrong with being outspoken but a child needs discipline too. There is a time and place for everything.

Can admins of this site control this kind of posts that are putting on blame on kids that really don't need more any crap from anyone.
 
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^Honestly, Janet is nothing to me. She's just as bad as the rest of them, if not worse. At least they are hella broke, what's her excuse for going after Michael's money? Disgusting leeches.
 
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she was always like that if u read previous mj interviews. and once again she wouldn't have to tweet anything if her family had not started this and had let her speak to her gran.

it makes me laugh how just like randy and x17 the family supporters are prepaired to blame paris for what others have done. frankly it is disrespectful that its even allowed on a michael jackson board

I clearly said that Paris was no mime before the incident. Maybe you should re-read my statement.

And it's pretty clear that adults are behind this. I don't think it needs to be said. You are reading hate where this is none.
 
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7/24/2012 9:27 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Tito's Son TJ
To Seek Temp Guardianship
of MJ's Kids

exclusive
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Tito Joe Jackson
, aka TJ, the 34-year-old son of Michael Jackson's brother Tito, is having his lawyer draft legal docs in a bid to become temporary guardian of MJ's 3 kids ... TMZ has learned.

People familiar with the situation tell TMZ ... Paris and Prince and Blanket all want TJ to be their guardian because they believe Katherine -- their current guardian -- has effectively been kidnapped by MJ's siblings. The kids haven't seen Katherine in 9 days.

Under California law, a judge would not grant a temporary guardian for teenagers unless the kids were on board with the selection, and we're told all 3 kids are down with it.

As we first reported ... the Michael Jackson Estate is standing by and will support TJ's bid to become the temporary guardian if asked by the Probate judge.

Just 15 hours ago, TJ tweeted to Paris, "I know it's completely unfair for them to do this to you and your brothers. We will keep trying. I love you."

By the way, TJ is married with kids and is in a band with his 2 brothers. And get this ... he was Kim Kardashian's first love. Check out what looks like their prom pic.

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One final point ... sources connected to MJ's siblings tell TMZ Michael's brothers and sisters are turning on each other. One brother has secretly been telling people he does not support what the others are doing to Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/tj-jackson-tito-jackson-temporary-guardianship-michael-jacksons-kids/

The brother that is not with the plan must be Marlon or Jackie. As they didn't sign that crazy estate letter either.
 
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That means Katherine has failed as a guardian.

This may be true, but I don't think anyone's parent or guardian is perfect... well at least if you live in the real world.
 
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