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Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

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Heck, they could go live with Opra for a while. Not that I am a big fan of Opra (cuz I am not, Not at all!) But, she is someone who knows the good, bad, and very ugly of the Hollywood world. She is also someone that would not be star struck with them being MJs Kids. She could help them invest and do the right things with the finances so that they are all three doing well and set up for the future. I think she would also be a big help to them in guiding them as to the right way to do what they want to do as far as their careers.
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i take it your clueless as to what oprah thinks of mj.
 
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I want Oprah away from his children.

As for the article, who knows but Katherine should be upset with them. Seriously if she isn't then something is wrong with her. I am sorry but what they did was wrong on so many levels.
 
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Goodness lord people don't know what to write anymore smh. Oprah helpin MJ kids?...Get real! Besides if that lady wanted kids she would have had her own yrs ago. And invest in what? Help their finances how? Oprah lost alot of money in that crap network of hers already. So she obviously ain't that clever. And YES Oprah is star struck by anything MJ, it's obvious with her constant need to talk about him with others!
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
^ Yes, i have huge doubts. Just like those x17online articles, i find these radar articles just as agenda driven. Their 'sources' appear to be mrs j's lawyers who are desperately trying to keep her relationship with the estate on an even keel and the guardianship and flow of money secure. All they do however is drive home once again that mrs j has still made no public statement on where she stands re the validity of the will after the war that her children have declared on the executors. She might not have signed that celebuzz letter, but she hasn't come out to support the execs either.
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Yeah. The source of this last article, if it is true, has to be someone in the house like TJ. It comes out after things seem to be quietening down, so what is the point of it, since grandma has not publicly said she feels the exec are doing a good job. This article serves to keep the drama alive, while I suspect Katherine want it buried and forgotten, so I do not think the information comes from her lawyers.

What is the point in not wanting to see your children, if you can talk to them? If the article is true, she needs to talk to them including Randy to let them know that this type of behavior will not be condoned by her; and she will not give them any financial support in the future, if they do not behave. Withdrawing money will work for Randy and Rebbie. Withdrawing food will also work for Rebbie. Then, Janet will be on her own, and then she would have to comply because the siblings need courage from each other in order to act.

Oh Oh did I see someone here interested in having Oprah look after Michael's children. I keep saying, people who are new to the Michael dynamic need to read more information in this forum and gain some more knowledge.
 
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AmpTrooper said:
The kids could always get emancipated! That would really shake things up! All the Jackson family has done with them is everything MJ didn't want. He didn't want them involved in all the financial drama, he didn't want them to be paraded around and used for their blood line to make money for the Jacksons. He wanted them to be able to grow up in privet and then make their own choice on what they wanted to do. I really feel for them that MJ's brothers and sisters would stoop this low and put their Mom and PB&P through all this. Shame on them. I think there are plenty of caring people around them that would be there for them that they could trust if they did get emancipated. Heck, they could go live with Opra for a while. Not that I am a big fan of Opra (cuz I am not, Not at all!) But, she is someone who knows the good, bad, and very ugly of the Hollywood world. She is also someone that would not be star struck with them being MJs Kids. She could help them invest and do the right things with the finances so that they are all three doing well and set up for the future. I think she would also be a big help to them in guiding them as to the right way to do what they want to do as far as their careers. I know that is a little off topic but, in the end of this all, it comes down to what those people are doing to the kids. They don't need this and I feel that as long as they are "IN" the family meaning living with and controlled by with guardianship, that they are never going to escape the greed and turmoil of Randy and people he convinces to join him in his fights. I mean, Janet? Jermain? Come on! Is it really worth hurting your family over? Poor kids! Really feel for them. Emancipation is the right thing to do. And them getting a hold of Opra as a mentor for after they are emancipated isn't such a bad idea either. Sure, she has her issues. We all do. Hers just make the front page while our don't make it out our front door half the time. Yeah, I don't see that Randy is going to make any statement. I mean, what can he say really? Anything he says can and will be used against him!!! LOL!
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Are you ok? Oprah?
 
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I'm not 100% convinced by the article, because it was never Katherine's nature to acknowledge her childrens' mistakes and act on it.
 
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ScaredOfTheMoon said:
I hope it's true Katherine refuses to speak to them so maybe in the future they'll think twice before doing this kinda thing to their old mother and three defenseless children. I hope they're ashamed of themselves but knowing them they probably aren't.
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They are too desperate and self centered to be ashamed but I hope it's true that Katherine won't talk to them.
 
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Vici said:
"Katherine Jackson Doesn't Want To See Her Kids Janet, Randy & Rebbie"

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...not-want-see-janet-randy-and-rebbie-exclusive
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WHAT????? :lmao: *sarcasm* :smilerolleyes:

I really do not believe it
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:nono: .... pure theater. -_-
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The Jackson family should receive the Oscar by acting. :p :fear:

Well, Ok Jackson family.... let's see.... :fear:
 
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I'm suspicious of the article. Why was Katherine so insistent on taking herself and the children to the "Jackson" concert so soon after her return home? I would think that she would be totally disappointed in her children. Between this escapade with Randy, Jermaine, Tito, Reebie, and Janet and that mess LaToya came up with (The Michael Forever Tribute), her children are not to be trusted. Marlon lives on the other side of the country (probably to avoid the family mess) and even though Jackie is the oldest, he appears to be totally weak as far as being an influence. I'm sure it is hard for her to swallow the fact that they are conniving and greedy to the point that they would exploit her and Michael's young children for financial gain.
 
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"We are one,' said by the Jack$on family, seems to mean that "we are entitled to Michael's money" This is NOT the case. This seems like some sort of medieval drama, where money/royalty is the only issue. Those are just CHILDREN. I do hope that someone cares about them, for themselves?
 
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Personally, I don't believe that article. In my opinion, the only way the article could be be true is if Katherine has had some kind of major wake-up call about the entire situation. And I don't think that's the case at all.
 
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We know better than to believe anything that comes from a tabloid, but I'd like it to be true.

People need to stop speculating about who the children should go to, they will never leave the Jackson family and they're old enough to pick which relative they'd want to live with too. Fuck Oprah, number one no one in their right mind would entertain the idea of her, two I'm pretty sure no judge will see that as a good idea. And as for Diana Ross we already know that she'll always be there for them but she doesn't want custody.
 
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Elegantly Wasted said:
We know better than to believe anything that comes from a tabloid, but I'd like it to be true.

People need to stop speculating about who the children should go to, they will never leave the Jackson family and they're old enough to pick which relative they'd want to live with too. Fuck Oprah, number one no one in their right mind would entertain the idea of her, two I'm pretty sure no judge will see that as a good idea. And as for Diana Ross we already know that she'll always be there for them but she doesn't want custody.
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bouee said:
I hope it's true too, Katherine, at last, angry with her "cubs" ... but I still have doubts. This whole thing is weird, what did she think when she saw the Arizona police ???
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Maybe she thought it was a courtesy call from local police force:)
Of course they want to check that everything is ok with "Michael Jackson's" mother.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
^ Yes, i have huge doubts. Just like those x17online articles, i find these radar articles just as agenda driven. Their 'sources' appear to be mrs j's lawyers who are desperately trying to keep her relationship with the estate on an even keel and the guardianship and flow of money secure. All they do however is drive home once again that mrs j has still made no public statement on where she stands re the validity of the will after the war that her children have declared on the executors. She might not have signed that celebuzz letter, but she hasn't come out to support the execs either.
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Did you read Mann deposition, he says it was Joe and Katherine that told him about their "concern" about it. To me it shows that she still have thoughts/regrets that she didn't contest the will when she had a chance.
I think she might have been aware of the letter, but didn't want to directly go against the estate by signing it.


pug said:
I'm suspicious of the article. Why was Katherine so insistent on taking herself and the children to the "Jackson" concert so soon after her return home? I would think that she would be totally disappointed in her children.
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Especially after Junior tweeted "misguided and how badly she was lied to".
 
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pug said:
I'm suspicious of the article. Why was Katherine so insistent on taking herself and the children to the "Jackson" concert so soon after her return home? I would think that she would be totally disappointed in her children.
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Maybe cus neither Janet, Randy or Rebbie would be there? And this would actually be her first time to attend their show since they started touring.

Jermaine retracted his signature so perhaps she oversaw that but yeah we have no idea.

I also dont know what to make out if this cus another report said Kat still wanted the anual "family day" to go on but had to cancel it.
 
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pug said:
Why was Katherine so insistent on taking herself and the children to the "Jackson" concert so soon after her return home? I would think that she would be totally disappointed in her children.
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In my opinion, Mother will ALWAYS try and shine a positive light on her children, no matter how bad the situation is and/or was.

She had to hurry up and get out there so that she could show some of that Jackson Family UNITY that Jermaine is always talking about (LOL), even though most folks know what time it is, especially after everything that just went down.

I also notice that in her deposition regarding the children's guardianship, Mother never mentions anybody's name, she just says: "I trusted the PEOPLE I was with," and we all know who those people were.

I remember seeing a little clip of Mother when she was on with Oprah, and she said, had the nerve to say: "ALL of my son's are good fathers." Sorry Mother, but where I come from, when a Dad refuses to support their children financially, that makes them a world class DEADBEAT DAD! No way around that one.
 
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http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/14/mj-mi...-pay-katherine-janet-jackson-las-vegas-condo/

The Michael Jackson Estate wants to pay for a portion of Janet Jackson's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo ... TMZ has learned.

The Estate filed documents asking the Probate judge to foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage. Sources tell us ... Katherine Jackson has spent time at the condo and the Estate is willing to pay a pro rata share of the mortgage based on how much Katherine uses Janet's Vegas crib.

A hearing is pending on the Estate's request, which was filed before the whole Arizona thing.

Two interesting things.

-- Thing 1. Given that Janet has become an arch enemy of the Estate, it's kind of a smart move to co-opt her by partially footing the bill.

-- Thing 2. This all may amount to nothing, because we're told Katherine isn't speaking to Janet, so it's unlikely she'll be sleeping in Janet's bed anytime soon.
 
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pug said:
The Michael Jackson Estate wants to pay for a portion of Janet Jackson's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo ... TMZ has learned.
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I don't get it, why would Mother have to pay to stay at her daughter's crib.

What happened to all of that FAMILY UNITY they are always spewing!

Is this ANOTHER backdoor way for the Estate to help out a Jackson family member, I wonder.

Pro-rate: Is that like a "rental" fee?
 
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pug said:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/14/mj-mi...-pay-katherine-janet-jackson-las-vegas-condo/

The Michael Jackson Estate wants to pay for a portion of Janet Jackson's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo ... TMZ has learned.

The Estate filed documents asking the Probate judge to foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage. Sources tell us ... Katherine Jackson has spent time at the condo and the Estate is willing to pay a pro rata share of the mortgage based on how much Katherine uses Janet's Vegas crib.

A hearing is pending on the Estate's request, which was filed before the whole Arizona thing.

Two interesting things.

-- Thing 1. Given that Janet has become an arch enemy of the Estate, it's kind of a smart move to co-opt her by partially footing the bill.

-- Thing 2. This all may amount to nothing, because we're told Katherine isn't speaking to Janet, so it's unlikely she'll be sleeping in Janet's bed anytime soon.
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Why should the estate have to pay for KJ staying at Janet's place? Thats her mother too!
 
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The Brown Gangsta said:
Why should the estate have to pay for KJ staying at Janet's place? Thats her mother too!
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Exactly!

Was Mother paying to stay there when Michael was alive.

I'd really like to know who's idea it was to approach the Estate in order to make such a request, i.e. "yes Mother, you can stay here, but Michael's estate will have to pay for it."
 
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Big Apple2 said:
In my opinion, Mother will ALWAYS try and shine a positive light on her children, no matter how bad the situation is and/or was.
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Aren't all mothers like that, though. And she's an elderly woman, she might not want to go through a big fight with her children at this point in her life. I'm not nescesarily defending her, I'm just saying that even though she was MJ's mother, she's still just like any other mother... she doesn't have super powers, and she can't turn off the unconditional love that most mothers have for their children.
 
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I dont know but I think the Estate maybe was anticipating something from Janet. I mean, maybe they are doing this in order to stop Janet doing something else ?
 
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Good grief, if I was staying with one of my sons for a short while I certainly wouldn't expect to be paying towards the mortgage.
 
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soulmum said:
Good grief, if I was staying with one of my sons for a short while I certainly wouldn't expect to be paying towards the mortgage.
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Exactly. This is embarrassing.
 
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Just when I thought I couldn't lose more respect for Janet...... She is unbelieveable.
 
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Gozer said:
Aren't all mothers like that, though. And she's an elderly woman, she might not want to go through a big fight with her children at this point in her life. I'm not nescesarily defending her, I'm just saying that even though she was MJ's mother, she's still just like any other mother... she doesn't have super powers, and she can't turn off the unconditional love that most mothers have for their children.
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Of course ALL mothers are like that, or should be anyway, but to a certain extent. Then comes the time when you let those little birds fly and when they mess up you don't FRONT as to how great they are, when folks know that's not true.

Most mothers ain't FRONTING for a world audience as to the upstanding job her "cubs" have done raising their children, when most folks know there are a bunch of deadbeats in the group.

In this PARTICULAR case, folks know what time it is, so all of that "glossing and flossing" no longer works. The cat is out of the bag and it was released in Arizona.

In a situation like this, less is more, in my opinion.

Lord only knows what's gonna happen when Mother is no longer able to protect her "cubs," the same "cubs" who should be protecting Mother at this point in her life, not stressing her out and "kidnapping" her in a lame attempt at financial gain.

Unconditional love + Tough love. I guess Mother didn't get that memo.
 
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This was filed before Janet went and lost her mind
 
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This was done before the Arizona mess, maybe Janet was trying to toss up a claim that she still has to help support her mother.
 
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My issue with KJ isn't that she's protective of her cubs, I'm just disgusted that she has no issues saying negative things about the one child that actually lifted a finger to make sure she had food to eat and a roof over her head. I wouldnt care if she treated ALL of her kids equally, but she doesn't she lets Michael get treated like dirt by the media sources she chooses to associate with.

if the estate did indeed put in an offer on Janet's mortgage to pre-empt that Arizona fiasco then it makes the situation even funnier :)
 
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