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Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

Janet Jackson continues her descent into post-career madness: she’s charging her mother for use of her Las Vegas condo. Katherine Jackson has asked the Michael Jackson estate to increase her cost of living expenses so she can travel to Las Vegas and stay in Janet’s condo, which the “What Have You Done For Me Lately?” singer doesn’t live in or use. TMZ incorrectly reported–then removed–a story that Mrs. Jackson asked the estate to pay Janet’s mortgage. Untrue. Mrs. Jackson travels to Gary, Indiana, where she still maintains a home. And she likes to stay in Vegas. The estate will tell the probate court in its next report that they’re giving Mrs. Jackson funds to use for these stays. Janet — since the battles this summer over Michael’s estate–refuses to be generous enough to her mother, sources say, and just provide for her at the condo. “There’s no way the estate would ever pay Janet’s mortgage,” laughed an insider. But my question is: what is Janet Jackson’s financial situation that she’s become so publicly unglued over money?


http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/08/1...ing-janet-charging-mom-for-use-of-vegas-condo
 
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charismatic said:
Okay, i'm just asking for understanding... but how do most fans charactarize michael's use of Demerol, Dilaudid, Xanax, Proloft, Paxil?

Second, what exactly did Janet Jackson say in the several or so interviews since Michael's death that indicated or aledged that Michael Jackson had an issue surrounding drug addiction.

Also, why do some fans seem to know more about Michael's life than would his own family? Are we relying on info from an inside source?

Thanks, again, i'm just trying to understand because I don't follow as much as I'd like. Thanks!
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mj had well documented and admitted issues with painkillers in the 90's he took them for medical issues such as lupus the burn,arthritus etc. that has never been denied. mj himself also admitted issues with medication in the early 00's. mj did not take painkillers at that time for the sake of it ie to get high. he took them for well documented medical issues.so what is the problem.? my mother has lupus and takes strong painkillers everyday.what does that make her ? there was no evidence at all that mj was addicted to anything at the time of his death and certainly not painkillers as there was none in his house and none found in his system. the medication found in his house had been prescribed by murray and metzger for sleep issues and had been UNDER used going by the prescription details

janet has said and implied several time since june 09 that mj died because he was a drug addict. her quotes being u cant lead a horse to water on oprah and other interviews and mentioned interventions yet could never name dates or said she wasnt there. yet in the same breath janet admitted she had not seen or spoken to mj in years. also she is best buddies with randy and its been shown he was the one selling stories calling mj a drug addict. those in the family that call mj an addict are the ones that are closest to randy

many fans know more about mjs own life than his family cause they actually spent time around him. many became personally close to mj. and for example u have latoya admitting she only saw mj about 5 times in 15 years. janet admitting she hadnt seen or talked to mj for years before his death. its well documented mj had nothing to do with the majority of his family bar his mother. yet they like to act like they did inorder to keep the family image going
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
mj had well documented and admitted issues with painkillers in the 90's he took them for medical issues such as lupus the burn,arthritus etc. that has never been denied. mj himself also admitted issues with medication in the early 00's. mj did not take painkillers at that time for the sake of it ie to get high. he took them for well documented medical issues.so what is the problem.? my mother has lupus and takes strong painkillers everyday.what does that make her ? there was no evidence at all that mj was addicted to anything at the time of his death and certainly not painkillers as there was none in his house and none found in his system. the medication found in his house had been prescribed by murray and metzger for sleep issues and had been UNDER used going by the prescription details

janet has said and implied several time since june 09 that mj died because he was a drug addict. her quotes being u cant lead a horse to water on oprah and other interviews and mentioned interventions yet could never name dates or said she wasnt there. yet in the same breath janet admitted she had not seen or spoken to mj in years. also she is best buddies with randy and its been shown he was the one selling stories calling mj a drug addict. those in the family that call mj an addict are the ones that are closest to randy

many fans know more about mjs own life than his family cause they actually spent time around him. many became personally close to mj. and for example u have latoya admitting she only saw mj about 5 times in 15 years. janet admitting she hadnt seen or talked to mj for years before his death. its well documented mj had nothing to do with the majority of his family bar his mother. yet they like to act like they did inorder to keep the family image going
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Thank You! I really appreciate it. :)
 
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Maybe Janet's money is running out and she needs more money coming in?
She did pay for Michael's burial in FL and the estate paid it back to Janet.
My own thought, if I was owner of 150 million (as they say Janet is worth), I would gladly pay for my brother's burial and ask no money back from his estate.

Did she buy a house for Katherine from LV, but Joe is living there at the moment?
Why K needs to go on condo if she already has a house there.
My thought, I visit my sister few times a year for a week or two (she lives in different country than me), and she never asked me pay anything, not did I offer.
Then again, we are not owners of 150 million:)

I wonder if this is Katherine and Janet's way to funnel money out of the estate to some less to do sibling?
Also I was wondering the speed this story was deleted from TMZ, is Janet's money issues sore spot for her?
 
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Joyce said:
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Is this the article?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/14/mj-mic...s-vegas-condo/

TheMichael Jackson Estate wants to pay for a portion of Janet Jackson's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo ... TMZ has learned.

The Estate filed documents asking the Probate judge to foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage. Sources tell us ... Katherine Jackson has spent time at the condo and the Estate is willing to pay a pro rata share of the mortgage based on how much Katherine uses Janet's Vegas crib.

A hearing is pending on the Estate's request, which was filed before the whole Arizona thing.

Two interesting things.

-- Thing 1. Given that Janet has become an arch enemy of the Estate, it's kind of a smart move to co-opt her by partially footing the bill.

-- Thing 2. This all may amount to nothing, because we're told Katherine isn't speaking to Janet, so it's unlikely she'll be sleeping in Janet's bed anytime soon.
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Yes it's is and it's still not available.
 
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^Is that tape I see on Jermaine's fingers? :smilerolleyes:
 
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Rhilo said:
^Is that tape I see on Jermaine's fingers?
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Poor Jermaine! He'll probably go to his grave STILL wishing he was The One AND Only Michael Jackson.

Must be hard for him to think about the fact that he will NEVER achieve what his little brother did and how he wasted all of those years waiting for Michael to join them on stage again, when he could have been out there carving out a little nitch for himself years ago.
 
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ScaredOfTheMoon said:
For f**ks sake, Jermaine
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Hold up!

Yesterday, I saw a clip of Jermaine and the brothers in Brooklyn during their free performance, and Jermaine has the NERVE, THE NERVE, to be standing on the stairs saying to the audience: "Can I come down there?" Just like Michael would do during his performances sometimes.

The man apparently does not have an original bone in his body. Poor thing!

So that I remain on topic, let me just add: they signed that letter, "kidnapped" their mother, went on television and looked like a bunch of fools. I think they have all lost their minds! Oh and I'm still waiting for one of them to produce the evidence they have been SCREAMING about since day 1. Where's the beef? LOL!
 
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so KJ has the calabassa home, hayvenhurst, the gary home (all which the estate pays for), and she still has a need to have a condo at hand too? Has she ever heard of hotels?
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Poor Jermaine! He'll probably go to his grave STILL wishing he was The One AND Only Michael Jackson.

Must be hard for him to think about the fact that he will NEVER achieve what his little brother did and how he wasted all of those years waiting for Michael to join them on stage again, when he could have been out there carving out a little nitch for himself years ago.
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Jermaine went solo and thought he would be the huge star. I think jermaine's solo album came out the similar time with Michael's thriller, and jermaine told Michael his own ablum was gonna be huge and michael's thriller sucks and would fail badly. The problem with the jacksons is they think themselves more than they really are. They are mediocre, crazy and lazy with super huge ego, they think they all deserved michael Jackson's kinda earning and stardom. In reality they couldn't create that Michael Jackson glory on their own, the only way they could satisfy that delusion is drag Michael in to fill their huge ego and pocket. the Jacksons can work their ass off and have a ok career like everybody else. But they are the lazy crazy delusional Jackson dynasty lol
 
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Do not bite the hand that feeds you!!! is an old adage that does not apply to this situation. Me thinks we are getting an inkling of Michael's life before he died.

When reading the Court Case back in 2008, between Michael and the Prince of Bahrain, where Michael asked Grace to use her bank account to funnel money to Katherine, what is going on now with Michael's parents and siblings gives us a better understanding.

The Bankruptcy issue with Katherine and Joe Jackson back in 1999 helps even more. The Jackson clan is not good about living within their means!
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Hold up!
Yesterday, I saw a clip of Jermaine and the brothers in Brooklyn during their free performance, and Jermaine has the NERVE, THE NERVE, to be standing on the stairs saying to the audience: "Can I come down there?" Just like Michael would do during his performances sometimes.

The man apparently does not have an original bone in his body. Poor thing!
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He did what???? :bugeyed
What's next, a black fedora? Doing the moonwalk? Maybe the Lean??

Pimboli said:
so KJ has the calabassa home, hayvenhurst, the gary home (all which the estate pays for), and she still has a need to have a condo at hand too? Has she ever heard of hotels?
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But does she own all these properties? Because last I heard was the Estate being the owner of Havenhurst. Meaning when Katherine passes, it won't go to the Siblings.
 
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Billie Jean 78 said:
But does she own all these properties? Because last I heard was the Estate being the owner of Havenhurst. Meaning when Katherine passes, it won't go to the Siblings.
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Yep, Hayvenhurst is now owned by The Estate of Michael Jackson and is also now being renovated, also paid for by The Estate of Michael Jackson.

So when Mother is no longer with us, I expect Randy Jackson to start screaming that The Estate STOLE the family home from them. LOL! But of course he won't mention that he didn't add a thin dime to the preservation of "the family home."

Remember: "we were denied access to OUR own home." Fool that ain't your home! The Estate of Michael Jackson pays for that house. (Sorry, but I still can't get over him saying that the home Mother is now living in is also considered OUR own home to Randy.)
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Yep, Hayvenhurst is now owned by The Estate of Michael Jackson and is also now being renovated, also paid for by The Estate of Michael Jackson.

So when Mother is no longer with us, I expect Randy Jackson to start screaming that The Estate STOLE the family home from them. LOL! But of course he won't mention that he didn't add a thin dime to the preservation of "the family home."

Remember: "we were denied access to OUR own home." Fool that ain't your home! The Estate of Michael Jackson pays for that house. (Sorry, but I still can't get over him saying that the home Mother is now living in is also considered OUR own home to Randy.)
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Ok, what about the Calabassa home? I thought the Estate was only renting it.
And who is the owner of the Gary home?
 
bluesky;3690143 said:
[h=1]not sure if it's allowed to post here but

Michhael Jackson’s Kids Visit An Attorney[/h]

While some kids are out playing sports with their friends or enjoying a summer vacation, Michael Jackson’s kids make their way to an attorney’s office. Prince, Paris, and Blanket Jackson were spotted with their bodyguards yesterday as they made their way to the offices of their family lawyer in West Hollywood.
I do feel bad for these three kids as they have to endure the very adult issues of custody and estates and legal battles. There is so much riding on the estate of their late father that things have been getting messy behind the scenes, especially with so many family members in the mix.
Hopefully their home life is much more mellow than the media frenzy we see.

http://www.babyrazzi.com/2012/08/14/michael-jacksons-kids-visit-an-attorney/
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Smart kids they need all the protection and information they can get.
 
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Billie Jean 78 said:
Ok, what about the Calabassa home? I thought the Estate was only renting it.
And who is the owner of the Gary home?
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I don't have any idea who owns the Gary home and you're correct, the Calabassa home is being rented by The Estate.
 
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Billie Jean 78 said:
He did what???? :bugeyed
What's next, a black fedora? Doing the moonwalk? Maybe the Lean??


But does she own all these properties? Because last I heard was the Estate being the owner of Havenhurst. Meaning when Katherine passes, it won't go to the Siblings.
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yup, the estate owns hayvenhurst and pays the mortage on the calabassa home. The Gary home im not sure of?
Anyway, my point is that it's f*ckery to have 2 homes in LA, one home in Gary and STILL claim to be in need of a condo in Las Vegas..
 
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Big Apple2 said:
I don't have any idea who owns the Gary home and you're correct, the Calabassa home is being rented by The Estate.
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Pimboli said:
yup, the estate owns hayvenhurst and pays the mortage on the calabassa home. The Gary home im not sure of?
Anyway, my point is that it's f*ckery to have 2 homes in LA, one home in Gary and STILL claim to be in need of a condo in Las Vegas..
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Which one is ot now? Does the Estate rent Calabassa or did it buy Calabassa and pays the mortgage? And if it pays the mortgage I csincerely hope the Estate is the owner and the home will come into PPB's possession one day, not the Siblings'!
 
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So if katherine wants to use Janet's condo in Vegas she needs to pay her? Is that true? That's her mother. I would rather stay at a hotel.
 
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I don't see tape on Jermaine's fingers.

And since we do not know what is the motivation behind the Estate paying money to Janet, let us not jump to conclusions.
 
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About the estate paying for the coop, didn't Katherine request more money so she could pay for that Las vegas coop and the house in Gary, and the estate already said they would ask the court, so this news from TMZ is late. At the time the estate said they were going to suggest that she gets it. We already knew this from some thread in here. TMZ is simply reporting more information in that it is Janet's coop.

Also, I just saw some wrong information above. The estate does not pay a mortgage on the home where the kids live in now. This is a rented home only. The estate/michael owns the encinio home. The coop in Vegas was bought by Janet. At the time, she said it was for her mother. Katherine has asked for more money to pay for it. The Gary home is not owned by the estate/Michael. Remember this was the home Michael's parents bought for them. Since they made it into this historical place there are costs on i,t and Katherine has asked the estate for more money so she could pay for its upkeep.
 
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loveforever said:
Jermaine went solo and thought he would be the huge star. I think jermaine's solo album came out the similar time with Michael's thriller, and jermaine told Michael his own ablum was gonna be huge and michael's thriller sucks and would fail badly. The problem with the jacksons is they think themselves more than they really are. They are mediocre, crazy and lazy with super huge ego, they think they all deserved michael Jackson's kinda earning and stardom. In reality they couldn't create that Michael Jackson glory on their own, the only way they could satisfy that delusion is drag Michael in to fill their huge ego and pocket. the Jacksons can work their ass off and have a ok career like everybody else. But they are the lazy crazy delusional Jackson dynasty lol
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May I remind you of the fact that The Jackson brothers worked their asses off for 26 years. We have an expression in Holland: When you work double as hard or under severe/heavy conditions, the working years count for two (tropic years)...I think I would be 'lazy' too after working that hard from a young age, without the freedom to go wherever or do whatever I please (like a normal teenager).
 
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Petrarose said:
About the estate paying for the coop, didn't Katherine request more money so she could pay for that Las vegas coop and the house in Gary, and the estate already said they would ask the court, so this news from TMZ is late. At the time the estate said they were going to suggest that she gets it. We already knew this from some thread in here. TMZ is simply reporting more information in that it is Janet's coop.

Also, I just saw some wrong information above. The estate does not pay a mortgage on the home where the kids live in now. This is a rented home only. The estate/michael owns the encinio home. The coop in Vegas was bought by Janet. At the time, she said it was for her mother. Katherine has asked for more money to pay for it. The Gary home is not owned by the estate/Michael. Remember this was the home Michael's parents bought for them. Since they made it into this historical place there are costs on i,t and Katherine has asked the estate for more money so she could pay for its upkeep.
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Who owns the coop? What i mean is, who holds the tittle to the property. Now, if Janet bought it for her mom, let Janet pay for it.
Propably the amount to be paid is just peanuts to the estate, but it's the way they're trying to make money out of Michael.

Sometimes it seems that even people begging for money in the streets have more dignity than the Js.
 
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Aquarius said:
Who owns the coop? What i mean is, who holds the tittle to the property. Now, if Janet bought it for her mom, let Janet pay for it.
Propably the amount to be paid is just peanuts to the estate, but it's the way they're trying to make money out of Michael.

Sometimes it seems that even people begging for money in the streets have more dignity than the Js.
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Well it seems that the thinking is, "I bought this coop for you mom, and now you have money. Maybe you should continue the payments yourself." Either it was Janet's idea, or Katherine decided to let Michael pay for it since he has a lot of money. Maybe she wants her daughter to keep more of her money, since she has less than Michael. I can only speculate.
 
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^^ Got it. But if the coop is under Janet's name then it doesn't belong to Katherine.

It looks bad if Janet was the one who requested the payment but it's worst if it's K who asked for the pymt. after all the money she's getting from the estate. Well, the estate will pay for anything K wants.
 
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Aquarius don't forget the "family thinking"--we will do it unless we can make Michael do it. We will pay for it unless we can make Michael pay for it. That is why we do not pay for child support, because Michael will pay for it. Rebbie does her shopping at Michael's home, because Michael pays for it. Grown children will not pay for mother's living expenses, because Michael will pay for it. Janet no longer has to pay for the home she bought for mommy, because Michael can pay for it. Nothing new here.
 
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Chamife said:
May I remind you of the fact that The Jackson brothers worked their asses off for 26 years. We have an expression in Holland: When you work double as hard or under severe/heavy conditions, the working years count for two (tropic years)...I think I would be 'lazy' too after working that hard from a young age, without the freedom to go wherever or do whatever I please (like a normal teenager).
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They worked in young age is their parents fault but it doesn't excuse them to leech off their brother in adult life. Michael Jackson also worked since he was 5 and he worked much harder than any other siblings. When his brothers went play, michael was studying from the masters, planning the shows, negotiating their contract. he was literally died because his mind was always on perfect his tour and he couldn't rest. He worked his ass off until the day he died. That's why he had the fortune left for his children and charities. He built his legacy through hard work, sweats and tears. Most People in this world have to work everyday (some have to work two jobs) to pay their houses, cars and child supports. That's called "work your ass off" being a responsible adult. Most of the Jacksons had filed for bankruptcy in certain point of their life, jermaine and randy can't even pay their child support. When the 60 something old jermaine jackson still said their jackson family philosophy is the lioness always take care of the cubs, in other words, we leech off our brother Michael through Katherine, it's the straight up laziness and craziness to me. Every words I wrote in this forum, I can say to the jacksons face.
 
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