Michael - The Great Album Debate

[AlwaysThere]

It's not even really a huge split -- I've only met a handful of fans who do believe that the tracks are Michael. But the fact that the fan community is split in any way over TWELVE SONGS is unbelievable.

It's ridiculous for you but they didn't go on Ophra to show anything but just very few picture and videos. And they talked for maybe 15 minutes. Eddie even was not talkative at all (it's his nature anyway). Now if you see how much money Jacksons are making for talking about MJ (whom they have seen very rarely during the last 25-30 years and even when they played Victory shows they didn't socialize behind the scene) I would imagine that Cascios got very good advices and keep most of MJ's "memorabilia" in a well protected safe. This staff is worth millions and should to be presented not on Ophra 15 min. segment but in something a lot more valuable like a good documentary or the movie. And I'm very positive that Eddie Cascio did not get requests to release any proof of Michael's recording (other than they sold to Sony) from anyone who is an important enough for him to do it.

Eddie went on the Oprah show to (1) show that they were, indeed, close friends with Michael Jackson, which they proved through home videos and (2) for Eddie to speak about the twelve songs he did with Michael, where no proof was shown. And the fan community isn't important enough? WE are the ones who are going out and buying the Michael album, not Sony. If Eddie had provided proof to support his claim, this debate would not exist. The only debate that would exist would be what state-of-mind Michael was in to record twelve terrible songs. But he did not.

 

[Pentum]

The fanbase has recovered pretty good by now, naturally, but back then when the songs leaked, etc. it was completly split in two. People fighting, people getting banned from MJJC, members hating each other, etc. It was talked about non stop.

 

[AlwaysThere]

^^ True, true, but it'll never really be off of our minds. Even with the release of Bad 25, I saw people writing that they hope that the two unheard-of tracks were real. It's sad that we have to do that now.

 

[Chamife]

It's ridiculous for you but they didn't go on Ophra to show anything but just very few picture and videos. And they talked for maybe 15 minutes. Eddie even was not talkative at all (it's his nature anyway). Now if you see how much money Jacksons are making for talking about MJ (whom they have seen very rarely during the last 25-30 years and even when they played Victory shows they didn't socialize behind the scene) I would imagine that Cascios got very good advices and keep most of MJ's "memorabilia" in a well protected safe. This staff is worth millions and should to be presented not on Ophra 15 min. segment but in something a lot more valuable like a good documentary or the movie. And I'm very positive that Eddie Cascio did not get requests to release any proof of Michael's recording (other than they sold to Sony) from anyone who is an important enough for him to do it.

Wasn't 'The Making of 'Michael, the album' a good enough documentary?

 

[Arklove]

I may not post very much anymore, but I will never forget this

 

[kreen]

They didn't show any proof because there isn't any.

The Oprah appearance wasn't about settling a nerd-intensive debate among half-obsessed (I include myself in this) fans on the Internet : it was about promoting the album to an audience of soccer moms. They addressed the "controvery" only to the extent that it was still good for PR ("Michael would have loved this").

From the official standpoint, the Estate produced a statement, and they stand by it. They say the songs are real, based on several reasons..

As for why Eddie hasn't said anything more since, it's probably either for legal reasons (his lawyer may have told him that anything he said could be held against him), or financial reasons (he's been told to keep evetything in a safe, for future projects).

As for proof, what exactly would satisfy you? Worktapes of MJ in the studio? Couldn't those be fake too? Or taken by the Cascios from other, real MJ sessions, like the WBSS 2008 ones? Video footage? Well maybe they just don't have any -- they didn't know those sessions would end up the most infamous ones in MJ's history. Or maybe MJ'S not exactly looking his best on those, and they're sort of unreleasable.

And the last thing we absolutely must always keep in mind : NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS except a handful of people here. As far as the external world is concerned -- not only the general public, but even general music circles, and the general Internet community -- this issue lasted for about two days.

 

[Pentum]

Dude, only a handful of people care about this? Are you high? Just because people don't bother posting in this thread, doesn't mean they don't care about the issue. I know several MJ fans who will never forget this, yet they have chosen to let it be and wait for the truth in due time.

Were you even around when BN hit the web along with the later leaks?

 

[Rudolf]

And the last thing we absolutely must always keep in mind : NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS except a handful of people here. As far as the external world is concerned -- not only the general public, but even general music circles, and the general Internet community -- this issue lasted for about two days.

I do care. But I don't post here. It's no use lol.

 

[144000]

This is a good one with MJ in the background. He is instantly recognisable there, yet isn't recognisable in the leads of the Cascio tracks. Not good.

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So nice of the King of Pop to do that for Kenny. I recognize him in the beginning. Then, as usual, the humble star blends in. He was always capable of sounding like musical instruments, so the idea of blending in shouldn't be shocking and doesn't bear any relevance in the debate. (I'm not aiming my second sentence at you, StellaJackson. I'm just mentioning that in general.)

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

pretty much anyone that has a unreleased MJ song/snippet has illegal property. so...like 90% of us

 

[elapentela]

Wasn't 'The Making of 'Michael, the album' a good enough documentary?

I'm talking about a documentary about the Michael Jackson around Cascio family. Whenever I saw them together I thought that they were MJ's real family. It's fascinating to me that he never show that kind of closeness with his biological family. I want to know why. I think their story will make in future great documentary or the true story movie like Blind Side for example.

 

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[144000]

I'm talking about a documentary about the Michael Jackson around Cascio family. Whenever I saw them together I thought that they were MJ's real family. It's fascinating to me that he never show that kind of closeness with his biological family. I want to know why. I think their story will make in future great documentary or the true story movie like Blind Side for example.

Michael was very close to his biological nephews and entrusted his kids to one of them. And he was close to his own kids.

 

[ivy]

Michael was very close to his biological nephews and entrusted his kids to one of them.

uhm no Michael didn't. he entrusted his kids to his mom and Diana Ross. His nephew came into picture after his death and his involvement had nothing to do with Michael and everything to do with Katherine needing help and a judge thinking they need a second person in place as well.

 

[144000]

well, the idea that Michael wasn't close to any member of his family is false, if he entrusted to his mother. And he was close to his nephews..so the connection isn't far fetched.

 

[elapentela]

well, the idea that Michael wasn't close to any member of his family is false, if he entrusted to his mother. And he was close to his nephews..so the connection isn't far fetched.

It seems he didn't trust them enough when they were adults to bring his children over to their house when he needed housing. He stayed with so many different hosts but never ever with his family. Don't you think it's pretty strange?

 

[Aniram]

I think often his family was out to grab a piece of Michael, like so many surrounding Michael were. His family would often call to him when they needed something, because of his super success. Some friends, like the Cascio's, maybe just wanted to be close to Michael and so they didn't act this way around him.

Also, I think Michael avoided his family when he was getting involved with shady people and they would distance him from them.

I'm not really sure, though, and I'm not sure how it's really relevant, either.

I mean people can act nice and accept you into their home for years and years and in a heartbeat turn around and stab you in the back.

None of it really says anything to me about the authenticity. Honestly, on Oprah, and in every interview I've seen, the Cascio's seem like decent people. Frank seems kind, they seem to at least want to be respectful and polite. I do think they're hiding something, though, quite obviously, however they are very polite about it and don't appear the type of people to do something like this. And maybe that's one of the eerie qualities about people like that and situations like that, the people who do the acts are those you'd least expect. Take a look at a lot of the criminals throughout history, often times they are quite attractive and that's how they lure their victims in.

This is all just generalizing, I guess. The most obvious and important thing is the sound of the voice that leads the Cascio songs. It doesn't sound like Michael Jackson. Most of us here noticed it immediately and that's why this thread continues to grow rapidly.

 

[144000]

It seems he didn't trust them enough when they were adults to bring his children over to their house when he needed housing. He stayed with so many different hosts but never ever with his family. Don't you think it's pretty strange?

He was Michael Jackson, and people took advantage..strangers or no. He considered Liz Taylor his best friend. Emmanuel Lewis. It's not strange though that people took advantage, no matter what..as Liza Minelli said. It's not relevant to the debate.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

As far as I am concerned, I can give the Cascio family the credit of being always there for Michael when he was alive, even though I don't know all the circumstances.

However, a major change occured. Michael Jackson died and he can never ever voice his opinion on anything any more. The fact n° 1 is that the Cascio tracks were released and leaked AFTER Michael Jackson's death. The fact n°2 is that the voice on those tracks is unusual to MJ's fans (regardless of any excuse).

So the question is, can we give credit to the Cascio family (Eddie & Frank) AFTER MJ's death? Mike is not here to vouch for them any more, and most importantly to confirm whether it is him on those tracks.

I understand people when they defend the Cascios while MJ was alive, but I don't understand to unconditionally defend them after MJ's death. The same goes for the Jackson family. I don't understand their constant bashing and undermining. Like any family they have their ups and downs. We can't however deny that just like the Cascios, MJ's family, stood for MJ during the hard times and accusations as well. Seeing them going to court with him showed who was really there for him no matter what. MJ was not simply a cash machine, he was also a son, a brother, an uncle. And I doubt that deep down MJ would prefer a surrogate family over his own, no matter how imperfect his family was.

It's just ridiculuous to claim that MJ didn't have good relationship with his nephews, nieces or family.

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Let's not forget MJ's participation with Jermaine on "Tell me I'm not dreamin", with Janet on "Can't stand another chance" & "Scream", with La Toya "Night time lover", with Rebbie on "Centipede" and "Fly away", etc.

Now all of sudden he would release 12 songs with Eddie? It doesn't add up with his entire career at all.

No matter what arguments the family had in the past, they are still family and it is not our business to judge what happened between them. How arrognat from fans to say who MJ preferred.

 

[ivy]

This is not about who Michael preferred but you have to admit that motive is an important part of this thing. Unfortunately 2 years later there seems to be no motive.

In the last few comments a few people has credited Cascio's being there for Michael when alive, being decent, kind and polite. So I think you need to ask yourself that what made those decent, kind and polite people that stood with Michael for 25 years through 2 allegations first being accused of being molested themselves and then accused of being a part of molestation on others would turn against Michael in just two days (song registration date) after this death ? Would you able to come up with any reason?

Money? No. Family has been already independently wealthy , having 4 stores and a more than a million dollar house for decades. They still have the same stuff. And if they wanted money they had a lot more easier ways to get it such as write a book - just as Frank did.

Fame? No . Eddie is still the small time name who produces from his basement. Probably same goes for Porte. If he wanted to be a major producer that worked with major artists he could have just kept the job Michael got him in 2003 at Sony/ ATV as a producer. He didn't need to wait for Michael die and then cook up a scheme.

So why? what made one or more of them to do this and start that in 2 days of Michael's death?

Similarly look to Jason Malachi. Well he enjoyed his name being so mentioned by the fans and pulled the fans legs all that "I can't deny or confirm" and "it's a blessing and a curse" lines but what made him to be a part of it?

Money? How much money can he get when Cascio's only got a few measly dollars (according to unconfirmed rumors)? Did Malachi got enough money to put his career and future on the line? You know that as a law enforcement officer if he's a part of the fraud and if it comes out he'll lose his job, his pension, his benefits and cannot work in law enforcement again.

Fame? What fame? Still no one in the public knows him and it seems his music has shifted to "Christian Pop" now. That ain't mainstream.

How about the Executors? They have a cushy job and ranking in millions of dollars ( they are averaging $4 M a year each). Why would they risk that payday and their future as Executors?

Honestly the only party that might have a motive is appears to be Sony with "more songs, more albums and more money" but they can't pull it of without the involvement and the payment to above people. That makes it unprofitable for Sony.

So what is the motive here? Seriously? And please do not reply with "I don't care it doesn't sound like Michael". We know what you hear, I'm a lot more interested to here about why you think this "fraud" happened according to you.

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

did the producer who was working on the songs in june 2009 say 3 of them were being worked on. On the sheet we see 2 tracks bearing simalar names....could they be "Rock Tonight, and H20"?

 

[Kapital77]

So what is the motive here? Seriously? And please do not reply with "I don't care it doesn't sound like Michael". We know what you hear, I'm a lot more interested to here about why you think this "fraud" happened according to you.

Because Eddie Cascio and James Porte were nothing in the music industry. If you make or write music for Michael Jackson you have a free highway to work with other singers.

Eddie knew he could fool fans with the voice of Jason and contacted with him to create the tracks with the help of James Porte. They used concepts and ideas from the real Michael Jackson music and concepts and ideas from Jason Malachi own work.

Maybe everything was planned by Frank Dileo (he was Porte´s manager) and he used his conections (Friedman) to create this lie on the news.

Everything it´s clear for me, Jason and Eddie wanted to be part of Michael Jackson legacy and they tried to fool Sony and fool fans.

Sony and Branca were fooled by DiLeo, Eddie, Porte and Jason and we know what happened later....

Now, Eddie, Jason Malachi and James Porte are hiding from the world because we (the fans) and Sony knows it´s not Michael Jackson.

They made a BIG MISTAKE... and sooner or later will pay.

 

[Chamife]

Aside from the question if it is fraud or not: What's the motive when you release songs with screwed up vocals from your friend and mentor?

A nobel one?

 

[AlwaysThere]

I have to give ivy credit, because she's made undeniable points. Eddie gained some notoriety for a few months when the songs were first released, but he's dropped off the map pretty quickly. Jason Malachi got notice for about a week when his Facebook was hacked and he "admitted" to being the lead vocalist on the Cascio tracks. But the point about the family always being independently wealthy could mean absolutely nothing. Just because the parents have money doesn't automatically mean that Eddie has money -- I've met people who have rich parents who refuse to financially help them for some reason.

But ivy, some things just don't add up. Why would Eddie demand $12 million dollars for the songs if he has money? Why did both Eddie and Jason Malachi drop off the face of the Earth for more than a year before re-emerging in 2012? (Their re-emergence was very quiet.) Why has James Porte completely dropped off the face of the Earth? Why hasn't Eddie released the video and audio proof he is rumored to have? And most importantly, why can't a vast majority of the fan community hear the voice of Michael Jackson in any of the Cascio recordings?

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

This is not about who Michael preferred but you have to admit that motive is an important part of this thing.

According to some believers, the reason why the doubt over the autheniticty of the vocals has been raised is because of the nephews' jealousy. The excuse is completely unfounded and made up, because MJ's fans feel the same the nephews feel: non-MJ's voice. And, as far as I know I don't see why MJ fans woould feel jaelousy. It's just tiring to see that the Jacksons are all put into the same basket and trashed all the time when they actually stood for Michael through difficult times just as much as all other Mike's true friends including the Cascios. Now, I don't see any reason why all of sudden the Cascios are flawless and the Jackson family not.

2 years later there seems to be no motive.

It's amusing how the situation is put upside down in this argument. Why don't you say "2 years later there seems to be no proof"? As for the motive, any musician would love to have Michael Jackson on his curriculum vitae, it's not that hard to see what the motive is unless we deny that Michael Jackson is the King of Pop.

In the last few comments a few people has credited Cascio's being there for Michael when alive, being decent, kind and polite. So I think you need to ask yourself that what made those decent, kind and polite people that stood with Michael for 25 years through 2 allegations first being accused of being molested themselves and then accused of being a part of molestation on others would turn against Michael in just two days (song registration date) after this death ? Would you able to come up with any reason?

Well, this is not the first question to raise. The first question to raise is what made MJ's voice change so dramatically with so many copy-pastes from previous releases only on those 12 songs? When we first, instead of making up excuses, find out the true answer to this question, then we can move on and try to answer your question about what pushed Eddie to do such a thing. But, that decent guy, Eddie, the responsible one for the tracks, has been hiding and doesn't want to answer the question. So he seems not to care neither about the fan base nor about the (supposed) MJ's odd vocals, and la crème de la crème, there are fans defending him and making up excuses why he doesn't want to answer the questions.

Money? No. Family has been already independently wealthy , having 4 stores and a more than a million dollar house for decades. They still have the same stuff. And if they wanted money they had a lot more easier ways to get it such as write a book - just as Frank did.

Family? How about Eddie having his own money and earning him by himself? How about a couple of millions of dollars more? And I don't see why you answer in advance "no" to your own question only because the family has the money? You actually have no slightest idea whether he did it for more money or not yet you are jumping to conclusions.

Fame? No . Eddie is still the small time name who produces from his basement. Probably same goes for Porte. If he wanted to be a major producer that worked with major artists he could have just kept the job Michael got him in 2003 at Sony/ ATV as a producer. He didn't need to wait for Michael die and then cook up a scheme.

Again you are answering "no" to your own question basing your answer on actually not knowing at all the reasons. Well, let's talk about fame. What would have happened if those tracks hadn't been controversial? Don't you see that the reason why he can't count on fame is because his tracks have become INFAMOUS. So of course, it is easy to say afterwards he didn't seek fame. But when he was selling the tracks to SONY it is impossible to say that he didn't seek fame, we just don't know. So why answering "no" then?

So why? what made one or more of them to do this and start that in 2 days of Michael's death?

And have you ever actually thought about the fact that the things haven't turned out the way they planned them to turn out? What if Eddie tried to use his "decency" to be believed about those tracks? It wouldn't be the first time in history to see a person with good intentions to make a mistake in his life and spoil the things. Have you ever wondered whether Eddie regrets to have sold those tracks, and that for him it's impossible to undo things by a simple click on a mouse?

Similarly look to Jason Malachi. Well he enjoyed his name being so mentioned by the fans and pulled the fans legs all that "I can't deny or confirm" and "it's a blessing and a curse" lines but what made him to be a part of it?

His capacity to imitate MJ and be a part of MJ's legacy even if not credited.

? How much money can he get when Cascio's only got a few measly dollars (according to unconfirmed rumors)? Did Malachi got enough money to put his career and future on the line? You know that as a law enforcement officer if he's a part of the fraud and if it comes out he'll lose his job, his pension, his benefits and cannot work in law enforcement again.

Extra money and a dream come true to be on an MJ official album no matter what. As far as his job is concerned, if all the tangible traces are erased and there is no proof whatsoever, he doesn't risk to lose his job. By the way, don't you find it just amazing that there is no a single trace of proof? Wouldn't that just answer your own question about the risk of losing his job and benefits? Without proofs he can't lose anything.

Fame? What fame? Still no one in the public knows him and it seems his music has shifted to "Christian Pop" now. That ain't mainstream.

It doesn't have to be fame. Nobody ever said that Jason Malachi sought fame for those songs. MJ was his idol. Some fans do silly things out of love for MJ. If there are Elvis Presley's fans soundalikes who tried to imitate Elvis's voice and sell their songs, I don't see why MJ's fans soundalikes would make an exception to the rule.

How about the Executors? They have a cushy job and ranking in millions of dollars ( they are averaging $4 M a year each). Why would they risk that payday and their future as Executors?

Unlike Elvis's Estate, MJ's ones were fooled. It seems obvious by now.

Honestly the only party that might have a motive is appears to be Sony with "more songs, more albums and more money" but they can't pull it of without the involvement and the payment to above people. That makes it unprofitable for Sony.

As far as SONY cover their asses, they don't care. They'll do legally clean business, fooled or not. Estate approved of the songs, SONY feel safe.

what is the motive here? Seriously? And please do not reply with "I don't care it doesn't sound like Michael". We know what you hear, I'm a lot more interested to here about why you think this "fraud" happened according to you.

So you actually don't care whether it sounds MJ or not? Well, as I said earlier, when you manage --without making up excuses-- to answer the most important question, which is "why don't we recognize MJ's voice", only then we can try to underqtand what pushed those people to sell those tracks. I don't understand why you are focusing on the subsidiary question --why supposed fraud-- when the biggest issue that we have is "what happened to the voice"? It is completely logical that MJ fans might not care about "why fraud?", but much more about "why such an odd voice?".

Finally, we come back to the initial problem, the one who detains the key, the one that you portrayed as "decent", well he's been hiding. So where is his decency now to answer the fans' questions about their idol?

 

[ivy]

Because Eddie Cascio and James Porte were nothing in the music industry. If you make or write music for Michael Jackson you have a free highway to work with other singers.

which didn't happen, did it now? Do you see anything that shows you that Eddie and Porte even want to work with other big name artists. And also as I posted a long time ago Eddie was given a producer / writer job in 2003 with Sony / ATV - thanks to Michael. He already had his free highway to work with other singers. IF that was his goal it doesn't make sense for him to resign that job then wait for Michael to die several years later and then fake songs to get to that free highway. He would have simply stayed with Sony/ATV job Michael got him.

Aside from the question if it is fraud or not: What's the motive when you release songs with screwed up vocals from your friend and mentor?

A nobel one?

To share it. It's obvious when you look to fans they want everything (simply go read for example Bad 25 debates about concert footage) and they might have wanted to share it - even though it might not be perfect- as it shows stuff he worked on later years.

But ivy, some things just don't add up. Why would Eddie demand $12 million dollars for the songs if he has money? Why did both Eddie and Jason Malachi drop off the face of the Earth for more than a year before re-emerging in 2012? (Their re-emergence was very quiet.) Why has James Porte completely dropped off the face of the Earth? Why hasn't Eddie released the video and audio proof he is rumored to have? And most importantly, why can't a vast majority of the fan community hear the voice of Michael Jackson in any of the Cascio recordings?

That 12 Million or 4-5 Million are nothing but Internet rumors. I'm still to see a single source for that other than people dropping the numbers right and left but not giving a source. Plus I would like to know what other people were paid for songs with Michael. If everyone was paid similar amounts that makes it a regular fee and not a "demand".

I can't say anything about Malachi was Cascio's was harassed to the extreme. It makes sense that they would distance themselves from such situations. I'm pretty sure Porte is probably working quietly as well. And as for why not release anything, it was obvious for a long time - just after a few weeks Teddy started to say that he can't talk anymore. I think it was obvious by then that they (Estate, Sony and so on) had chosen the route of "let's stay silent and this will die".

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@bumper

As always if you are going to turn this into a "you you you" criticism you know that I would not respond to you. Please learn to address my points and not me personally. And for the record I did not say I don't care whether it sounds Michael or not. I asked people not to respond with "I don't care (about motive), it doesn't sound like Michael" and give me a reason why do they think this is happening. You automatically go to ignore with your unfair portrayal about me. Bye.

 

[Chamife]

which didn't happen, did it now? Do you see anything that shows you that Eddie and Porte even want to work with other big name artists. And also as I posted a long time ago Eddie was given a producer / writer job in 2003 with Sony / ATV - thanks to Michael. He already had his free highway to work with other singers. IF that was his goal it doesn't make sense for him to resign that job then wait for Michael to die several years later and then fake songs to get to that free highway. He would have simply stayed with Sony/ATV job Michael got him.

He wanted to be independent and make a name for himself. I can only guess that was the reason he quit his job with Sony. He probably learned that from Michael too. And I think in the few articles on the web he also talks about that, but I'm not sure. Working on his own wasn't that succesful as he hoped. In the beginning we heard he worked with big names (from articles on the web 2003 or 2004) but later on we heard nothing special from him, until 2010.

Aside from the question if it is fraud or not: What's the motive when you release songs with screwed up vocals from your friend and mentor?*




A nobel one?

To share it. It's obvious when you look to fans they want everything (simply go read for example Bad 25 debates about concert footage) and they might have wanted to share it - even though it might not be perfect- as it shows stuff he worked on later years.

Not perfect doesn't equal not recognizable. When you're a singer you have to be recognizable to your audience.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

@bumper

As always if you are going to turn this into a "you you you" criticism you know that I would not respond to you. Please learn to address my points and not me personally. And for the record I did not say I don't care whether it sounds Michael or not. I asked people not to respond with "I don't care (about motive), it doesn't sound like Michael" and give me a reason why do they think this is happening. You automatically go to ignore with your unfair portrayal about me. Bye.

This is tiring. I was referring to your posts, not to you personally. Quote one single thing in my post that I said something against you personally.

I was discussing Eddie, MJ's voice, Jason Malachi; money, fame, and your arguments regarding the issue. Where do you see that I was portraying you in my post?

 

[StellaJackson]

did the producer who was working on the songs in june 2009 say 3 of them were being worked on. On the sheet we see 2 tracks bearing simalar names....could they be "Rock Tonight, and H20"?

I can assure you they are different songs. The Cascio titles don't appear in any of the pages and pages of notes collected from Michael's house.

The motive was simple. Michael told Eddie he would record those songs in London. Eddie was so close. He desperately wanted to finish those songs. His ego and greed got in the way. After the things I've learned, it is astonishing that these songs ever made it to the album.

 

[ivy]

This is tiring. I was referring to your posts, not to you personally. Quote one single thing in my post that I said something against you personally.

uhm I already did. and I'm totally done with this as well.