[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[octavio001331]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

unbelievable, let the man rest in peace!

 

[8701girl]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Yes but we have his attorney who claims how wonderful Wade is, say he is happily married. Even his lawyer does not even have the story straight. Thing about these dishonorable people is that they make statements when it is so easy to get facts that show otherwise.

I wonder if Wade will show up for the hearing. A lot of fans are going to be standing outside of that courthouse for sure.

His lawyer is just saying hes married to make wade look righteous so these claims wont look foolish


He better show up for court so he can show his face and talk these claims hes making , if he dont it just proves what a lying coward he is

 

[Petrarose]

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^Well he already showed he is a coward by bringing these allegations after the person died and can't say anything, by taking down his facebook, by hiding, by blaming repression & fear for his lack of action rather than saying he did not act because he did not need money then.

Fans are probably already making their plaque cards to hang around the courthouse on June 1.

Any pictures of what this lawyer looks like?

 

[MsCassieMollie]

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A 1994 Open Letter from Michael Jackson to his critics:

"Like the old Indian proverb says, do not judge a man until you've walked 2 moons in his mocassins.

Most people don't know me, that is why they write such things in which most is not true.

I cry very often because it hurts and I worry about the children, all my children all over the world. I live for them.

If a man could say nothing against a character but what he can prove, his story could not be written.

Animals strike, not from malice, but because they want to live. It is the same with those who criticize. They desire our blood, not our pain.

But still I must achieve. I must seek truth in all things. I must endure for the power I was sent forth. For the world. For the children.

But have mercy, for I've been bleeding a long time now.

MJ

 

[PurdyYungThang84]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

You know, this was ultimately Michael's downfall. He was always inviting new, random a-- people to be his new best friend. Not that its a bad thing that he was open-hearted, but he let too many people get too close to him BEFORE knowing them well. The kids he befriended weren't the problem so much as the families were. He just had way too much money floating around to have his inner circle open to perfect strangers; the odds were against him, more vultures are attracted to that dynamic than genuine people. As we see now, the vultures are still trying to pick the carcass clean.... :/

 

[8701girl]

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^Well he already showed he is a coward by bringing these allegations after the person died and can't say anything, by taking down his facebook, by hiding, by blaming repression & fear for his lack of action rather than saying he did not act because he did not need money then.

Fans are probably already making their plaque cards to hang around the courthouse on June 1.

Any pictures of what this lawyer looks like?

LOL plaque cards

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Thanks Cassie ^^. Unfortunately he is still bleeding, because they continue to bleed him for the money he left behind. Maybe that is why some people used to threaten to bury their money with them.

Purdy I think the downfall was the insurance company that forced the settlement of the first case. Going to court would have sent a good message to crooks. Anyway I cannot cry over these things from the past that cannot be undone.

 

[jamba]

Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

That lawyer should be arrested for being a fool. Wade collapsed last year and 9 months ago he was giving verbal awards to Michael. I told you guys last night that these shake downers never remember to keep their story straight. They forget to dot all the i's and cross all the t's. They need to go & check back all the places Wade was too & make sure that the day they claim Wade collapsed, he was not at some public event. His hospital records better show he was not there for something else too. Now as we know you can get a lawyer to do anything, so obviously this one expects some big money. Did TMez ever go to the news to trash the kids in the case during or pre trial? NO, because he knew the truth will be more powerful. This attorney is a low life & will not see a penny.

There was a gag order about talking about the case to the media.

 

[8701girl]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Just read that wade is saying on his twitter page he is standing by what he s doing

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

There was a gag order about talking about the case to the media.

True but not all through. TMez said that reporters came up to him in court to make him give interviews/comments and he avoided them.

^^Of course he will stand by what he is doing because he has no choice. He has to go through with it because he needs the money, which he will not get by the way. He couldn't even put his story in a coherent narrative with the correct manner in which he regained his memory or reason why he was quiet. He and his lawyer are not on the same page. Further, isn't he supposed to shut his mouth until after the trial. Anyway let him speak and divulge more of his story so we can point out more of the holes in it.

 

[PurdyYungThang84]

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Purdy I think the downfall was the insurance company that forced the settlement of the first case. Going to court would have sent a good message to crooks. Anyway I cannot cry over these things from the past that cannot be undone.

SO SO SO true, I wish he wouldn't have waited til '03 to fight for his name. Shoulda coulda woulda :/. I just hate seeing the same old bullsh-t playing itself out aaaaall over again, knowing that it all stems from the same nature of "friendships". I'm honestly grateful Michael is in a place were this garbage can't hurt him anymore, I do worry about the kids getting bullied now though...

 

[Ashtanga]

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Just read that wade is saying on his twitter page he is standing by what he s doing

He is an idiot! :crazy: uke: Someone has to stop him. errin:

 

[HIStory]

Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

^^Of course he will stand by what he is doing because he has no choice. He has to go through with it because he needs the money, which he will not get by the way. He couldn't even put his story in a coherent narrative with the correct manner in which he regained his memory or reason why he was quiet. He and his lawyer are not on the same page. Further, isn't he supposed to shut his mouth until after the trial. Anyway let him speak and divulge more of his story so we can point out more of the holes in it.

He can't turn back now IMO. If he said: "Well, I admit it's not true I just tried it" he might be sued by the Estate for extortion. He will have to stand by it now.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Just read that wade is saying on his twitter page he is standing by what he s doing

Link to his official Twitter? I haven't found anything about him tweeting about this. This is the account that looks like him (others I found are obviously fake) and he has only one tweet on it from May 6:

https://twitter.com/WadeJWRobson

Wade Robson ?@WadeJWRobson Happy to work with @britneyspears again. So excited about 2013!

If it's him it's odd since he seems to have registered on YT after this lawsuit was filed...

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

^Yeap. He would be in more legal trouble than ever if he backs down now. However, how is he going to keep this thing up, I do not know. He sounds very cowardly and not very convincing. Wait until we see the details of the molestation, then we will know what type of mind he has. Hopefully he is not as graphic as Victor.

^^Oh so that tweet may not be him? Well he is really hiding then. Maybe he is not even on earth anymore. Let's see, if you don't have much money where do you hide?

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Has Tom Mez given more opinions on this? I hope WR's past actions turns out to him into a backfire for this outrageous lawsuit.

 

[bluetopez]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I don't like how Harvey Levin was saying Wade doesn't compare to The Chandlers and Arvios's because Wade has been successful in his life/career. -_-

A successful career and life that by the way MJ made happen and two he is asking for money! Which is a sign of GREED not Justice!

 

[HIStory]

sanemjfan &#8207;<s>@</s>sanemjfan <small class="time"> 2 óra </small> <s>@</s>a7tinkerbell I believe that this is a FAKE account <s>@</s>WadeJWRobson

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I don't like how Harvey Levin was saying Wade doesn't compare to The Chandlers and Arvios's because Wade has been successful in his life/career. -_-

A successful career and life that by the way MJ made happen and two he is asking for money! Which is a sign of GREED not Justice!

But does he STILL have a successful career? By the sound of it he doesn't. And yes, he's clearly going for the money, so what makes him credible?

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Harvey is another person whose thinking does not always add up. Wade is not successful if he is in bankruptcy, and he is just like the others since it is when THEY NEED MONEY that they claim molestation. Why isn't Harvey checking into Wade's background and highlighting all the tributes/interviews he did on Michael even when he claimed he collapsed from the memories to show how there is something faulty with this case?

 

[marc_vivien]

Probate CodeTimely Claim
9100. (a) A creditor shall file a claim before expiration of thelater of the following times: (1) Four months after the date letters are first issued to ageneral personal representative. (2) Sixty days after the date notice of administration is mailedor personally delivered to the creditor. Nothing in this paragraphextends the time provided in Section 366.2 of the Code of CivilProcedure.
(b) A reference in another statute to the time for filing a claimmeans the time provided in paragraph (1) of subdivision (a).
(c) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to extend or tollany other statute of limitations or to revive a claim that is barredby any statute of limitations. The reference in this subdivision toa "statute of limitations" includes Section 366.2 of the Code ofCivil Procedure.


File late Claim
9103. (a) Upon petition by a creditor or the personalrepresentative, the court may allow a claim to be filed afterexpiration of the time for filing a claim provided in Section 9100 ifeither of the following conditions is satisfied: (1) The personal representative failed to send proper and timelynotice of administration of the estate to the creditor, and thatpetition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actualknowledge of the administration of the estate. (2) The creditor had no knowledge of the facts reasonably givingrise to the existence of the claim more than 30 days prior to thetime for filing a claim as provided in Section 9100, and the petitionis filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge ofboth of the following: (A) The existence of the facts reasonably giving rise to theexistence of the claim. (B) The administration of the estate. (b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the court shall not allow aclaim to be filed under this section after the court makes an orderfor final distribution of the estate. (c) The court may condition the claim on terms that are just andequitable, and may require the appointment or reappointment of apersonal representative if necessary. The court may deny the creditor's petition if a payment to general creditors has been made and itappears that the filing or establishment of the claim would cause ortend to cause unequal treatment among creditors. (d) Regardless of whether the claim is later established in wholeor in part, payments otherwise properly made before a claim is filedunder this section are not subject to the claim. Except to the extentprovided in Section 9392 and subject to Section 9053, the personalrepresentative or payee is not liable on account of the priorpayment. Nothing in this subdivision limits the liability of a personwho receives a preliminary distribution of property to restore tothe estate an amount sufficient for payment of the distributee'sproper share of the claim, not exceeding the amount distributed. (e) Notice of hearing on the petition shall be given as providedin Section 1220. (f) Nothing in this section authorizes allowance or approval of aclaim barred by, or extends the time provided in, Section 366.2 ofthe Code of Civil Procedure.


Civil Code about death
366.2. (a) If a person against whom an action may be brought on aliability of the person, whether arising in contract, tort, orotherwise, and whether accrued or not accrued, dies before theexpiration of the applicable limitations period, and the cause ofaction survives, an action may be commenced within one year after the date of death, and the limitations period that would have been applicable does not apply.
(b) The limitations period provided in this section forcommencement of an action shall not be tolled or extended for anyreason except as provided in any of the following, where applicable: (1) Sections 12, 12a, and 12b of this code. (2) Part 4 (commencing with Section 9000) of Division 7 of theProbate Code (creditor claims in administration of estates ofdecedents). (3) Part 8 (commencing with Section 19000) of Division 9 of theProbate Code (payment of claims, debts, and expenses from revocabletrust of deceased settlor). (4) Former Part 3 (commencing with Section 21300) of Division 11of the Probate Code (no contest clauses), as that part read prior toits repeal by Chapter 174 of the Statutes of 2008.
(c) This section applies to actions brought on liabilities ofpersons dying on or after January 1, 1993.


Case :
http://www.fearnotlaw.com/wsnkb/print.php?id=18152


As a result of the 1990 amendments to the Tulsa Professional Collection Services, Inc. decision a creditor, without actual knowledge of the four-month short term period (Â 9100), may be entitled to file a late claim (Â 9103) or seek remedies against distributees (Â 9352) and the personal representative. (Â 9053, 11429.) Creditors who have been given notice have four months to file a claim. (Â 9100.) However, the one-year period of Code of Civil Procedure section 366.2 is not tolled nor extended for untimely claims. (Levine v. Levine, supra, 102 Cal.App.4th at p. 1261; Dobler v. Arluk Medical Center Industrial Group, Inc., supra, 89 Cal.App.4th at pp. 535-536) Furthermore, the late claims provisions do not apply when the one-year statutory time limit in Code of Civil Procedure section 366.2 has expired. (Â 9103, subd. (f); Interinsurance Exchange v. Narula, supra, 33 Cal.App.4th at p. 1146.) Therefore, as the Court of Appeal has held, f a claim is not filed in a probate proceeding within either the claims filing period of section 9100 or within the one-year limitation period of Code of Civil Procedure section 366.2, a creditor will be forever barred from asserting a claim against the decedent.

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

A choreographer currently working for J-Lo:

J.R. Taylor ?@[/s]Didntinviteme 2h
I don't usually NEVER comment publicly, but Wade Robson please have SEVERAL ???????????????? #[/s]WhenTheChecksStopComing

 

[marc_vivien]

[h=1]The repressed memory is a controversial issue.

http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/repressed-memory-debunked/


&#8220;Repressed Memory&#8221; &#8211; Debunked[/h]
Many individuals have come forward publicly to claim that a priest molested them years earlier (and often decades earlier) after asserting that they &#8220;repressed&#8221; the memory of the abuse having occurred.
Unfortunately, the media has been woefully uncritical when reporting cases in which an individual invokes &#8220;repressed memory&#8221; when claiming abuse by a priest from decades earlier.
Dr. Richard J. McNally is the Professor and Director of Clinical Training in the Department of Psychology at Harvard University. As one of the world&#8217;s leading experts in the field of memory, he has 250 publications to his credit, including the heralded 2003 book, Remembering Trauma.
In a 2005 letter to the California Supreme Court, which was handling a case in which &#8220;repressed memory&#8221; was debated, Dr. McNally asserted:

&#8220;The notion that traumatic events can be repressed and later recovered is the most pernicious bit of folklore ever to infect psychology and psychiatry. It has provided the theoretical basis for &#8216;recovered memory therapy&#8217; &#8212; the worst catastrophe to befall the mental health field since the lobotomy era.&#8221;
​

Many other prominent experts agree. &#8220;Repressed memory&#8221; is simply bogus.
Dr. Grant Devilly, from the Psychological Health research unit at Griffith University, agrees with Dr. McNally. Devilly says that memories of terrifying experiences work in the opposite manner of repressed memory theory. People rather wish they could forget their traumatic experiences.
&#8220;It&#8217;s the opposite. They wish they couldn&#8217;t think about it,&#8221; says Devilly.
Then there is Dr. James McGaugh from the University of California, Irvine. His expertise in the area of memory was once profiled on CBS&#8217; 60 Minutes program. Regarding the issue of &#8220;repressed memory,&#8221; Dr. McGaugh said in a 2010 book,

&#8220;I do not believe there&#8217;s such a thing as repressed memory. I haven&#8217;t seen a single instance in which a memory was completely repressed and popped up again.
&#8220;I go on science, not fads. And there&#8217;s absolutely no proof that it can happen. Zero. None. Niente. Nada. All my research says that strong emotional experiences leave emotionally strong memories. Being sexually molested would certainly qualify.&#8221;
​

In addition:

• "Recovered-memory therapy will come to be recognized as the quackery of the 20th century." &#8211; Dr. Richard Ofshe, a social psychologist at the University of California, Berkeley (Leon Jaroff and Jeanne McDowell, &#8220;Repressed-Memory Therapy: Lies of the Mind,&#8221; Time, November 29, 1993);
• "If penis envy made us look dumb, this will make us look totally gullible." &#8211; Dr. Paul McHugh, chairman of the psychiatry department at Johns Hopkins University (Leon Jaroff and Jeanne McDowell, &#8220;Repressed-Memory Therapy: Lies of the Mind,&#8221; Time, November 29, 1993);
• "You can&#8217;t be raped for 10 years and not remember it. Yet, according to the repression aficionados, anything's possible." &#8211; Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, professor of psychology at the University of California Irvine (Sasha Abramsky, &#8220;Memory and Manipulation: The trials of Elizabeth Loftus, defender of the wrongly accused,&#8221; LA Weekly, August 19, 2004).

Indeed, this is an issue that must be approached with caution and sensitivity. Not all clergy abuse victims invoke &#8220;repressed memory.&#8221; The memory of actual awful abuse is all too real and devastating.
&#8220;Repressed memory&#8221; should not be confused with instances in which an abused individual minimizes the awful harm that was done and comes to the harsh realization later in life of having been abused. Indeed, as Harvard&#8217;s Dr. McNally has explained, many victims only come to the understanding of the damage done to them years later after reassessing their hideous experiences. There can be intense suffering when victims reexamine their childhood abuse later in life.
&#8220;Seeing the event through the eyes of adult, they realize what has happened to them and now they experience the emotional turmoil of trauma,&#8221; says Dr. McNally. The trauma is equivalent to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Fortunately, therapy under the direction of a competent psychologist has been shown to be very helpful to victims of PTSD.
&#8220;Things have changed, happily. We now have treatments that work,&#8221; adds Dr. McNally.
One final note: It is important to know that in the rare moments that &#8220;repressed memory&#8221; is challenged in the media, victim advocates will vehemently and vocally complain to writers and editors who dare to challenge the bogus theory. Such attackers will falsely claim that there is a legitimate &#8220;other side&#8221; to this issue. There isn&#8217;t. The public should be very aware of this.
To repeat the words of Dr. McNally, &#8220;repressed memory therapy&#8221; is indeed &#8220;the worst catastrophe to befall the mental health field since the lobotomy era.&#8221;

 

[bouee]

BTW, Mez was in his car on the way to CNN when the podcast was made, so he soon will be on CNN. He also gave an interview to Entertainment Tonight that will air tonight.

Tmez is great. He shouldn't be doing this alone, though.

FORMER JACKSON DEFENDER NOW SAYS SINGER ABUSED HIM
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY
&#8212; May. 8 10:18 PM EDT

"Last year, on a career trajectory that was off the charts, (Robson) collapsed under the stress and sexual trauma of what had happened to him for seven years as a child," Gradstein wrote in a statement that referred to Jackson as a sexual predator.

"There are significant legal issues involved in this case that have the potential to impact lives beyond just our client," he wrote.

Gradstein said he could not discuss specifics of the case, but he cited Robson's recent breakdown as the choreographer's reason for reversing his previous statements about Jackson. "As a result, he started intensive treatment which ultimately led to his ability to come forward," Gradstein said.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/former-jackson-defender-now-says-singer-abused-him

Mez said the following in a Podcast:

The DOES 1-3 stuff: It's common in civil cases to include DOES, even if there is noone behind them. It's just to reserve the right to include more defendants, but it doesn't mean there is actually someone they already have in mind.

The lawyer does not mention repressed memories, he doesn't specifically say what led to his "ability to come forward". Did he suddenly remember stuff , or was he suddenly able to overcome the fear of juvenile hall, or the shrink help him understand that some things that he didnt consider as abuse actually are abuse, according to him.
Interesting that the statute of limitation for perjury has passed.
Very very vague IMO. That would be explained in the shrink's report that was filed, but it's too vague for a public statement, it makes the story even more ridiculous.

And the shrink report will be full of "could be" "possibly" because a psychiatrist can not be 100 % sure. Vague too, so no one is will be technically lying.

Apparently there's nothing about the "collapse", "breakdown", that a "physical" doctor would have witnessed.

"stress AND sexual trauma" : which one is it ? again, very vague, in case things don't go well for Robson or the shrink, stress will explain the false accusations.

"intensive" treatment : that's why it was so fast.

"There are significant legal issues involved in this case that have the potential to impact lives beyond just our client" + DOES 1-3 : is this a threat ? Is he implying that it was not only Michael, and/or that other people witnessed the abuse and did nothing / lied about it ? I'm thinking his mother, sister, Frank, Brett, staff at Neverland, etc..


@Marc Vivien : thank you for the legal texts. Can you or Ivy explain what it means in plain English ?

My understanding of the legal situation is that he is publicly asking to file a complaint under seal- complaint that he has not filed yet. Is that right ? And that complaint would be a creditors claim ?

Could he have filed the request to file under seal NOT publicly ? As the whole thing sounds really vague, i'm wondering if the idea was only to go public with that.

Is there anything else he can do ?(criminal complaint , civil lawsuit )

what are the Estate / kids options ?

what happens if the judge say Robson can file the claim ?

The connection with Jamie King is interesting, and it happens the same week as MJ one.

Re connection with AEG, I know the timing for them would have been better if the story had come out earlier, and that AEG say they "don't see the connection to the case" (I do, it could help them reduce the damages if found liable) , but I wouldn't exclude that this is linked to the AEG trial yet.
The jury could hear about it, and time will tell if they are going to use it or not, and if so how. We don't know yet how dirty the defense will be. This leads to another question : could Wade testify for them , or is it too late because the trial already started ? What happens if AEG is found liable and files an appeal, can they use Robson in the appeal or a second trial ?

Maybe there is no coincidence, but that just sounds really weird to me.

it's good that Michael can't see that, coming from Wade the blow would have been huge. But his kids are going to be hurt.

 

[MattyJam]

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Anyone else noticed how the media aren't really paying too much attention to this story?

Living in the UK, I was expecting it to be plastered over the front pages of the British tabloids, but it isn't.

Maybe even the media smell BS on this one??

 

[HIStory]

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"There are significant legal issues involved in this case that have the potential to impact lives beyond just our client" + DOES 1-3 : is this a threat ? Is he implying that it was not only Michael, and/or that other people witnessed the abuse and did nothing / lied about it ? I'm thinking his mother, sister, Frank, Brett, staff at Neverland, etc..

I'm wondering about his mother too. What she thinks of it? Where does she stand? After the verdict in 2005 she said this to an Australian newspaper:

"We were crying and screaming and crying and screaming.''
The Robson family has kept in close contact with Jackson during the trial, with Joy last speaking to him when the defence and prosecution rested their cases.
"He's always reasonably optimistic,'' she said.
"He has a lot of faith and relies a lot on his faith.
"He did ask me to pray for him. We all believed ultimately the truth would come out.
Joy Robson said she never doubted Jackson was innocent, despite the serious charges against him.''

So does she believe Wade now after his change of heart? Or does she think it's fishy? Is she ashamed of him or supportive? Will Wade blame her too? Is she one of the DOES? I mean if WR was abused by Michael for 7 years that would mean his mother is horrible for letting it happen, wouldn't it? How does Joy like to be put in that light?

Frank, Brett and Wade's sister cannot be DOES IMO since they too were minors at the time.

 

[HIStory]

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[elusive moonwalker]

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it wouldnt be happening if mj was here.

No he wouldn't. I keep thinking about that.

Like someone else said so wade had a breakdown a year ago but was at that event praising mj 9 months ago!!

bonnie my comment is that as wade is a dancer etc and worked on big shows than of course at some point hes gonna be working for an artist that has a show thats been promoted by aeg. they and live nation prob cover 99% of big shows. imo its reaching to connect the two especially when its not even a direct connection

 

[SuperLee]

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The media in the UK would only be totally interested in this story if the person who is affected (Michael) in this ridiculous allegation was alive
Lets face it we all know Michael was one of the easiest targets for the media when he was alive
Also looking at the general reaction to whats going on most people i'd say think its just for a payout

 

[pisces]

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Anyone else noticed how the media aren't really paying too much attention to this story?

Living in the UK, I was expecting it to be plastered over the front pages of the British tabloids, but it isn't.

Maybe even the media smell BS on this one??

In the Daily Mail there is only a small paragraph on page 34.