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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

I'm kinda ready to move on from this for the time being and not dig up info that will help the liar's case. I think the estate is handling it and I'm sure they got a bag of tricks for this fool.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

This whole thing will be over soon. What a dope....
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Petrarose said:
I hope she is not implying that Wade was told to not tell & that is the reason why he held everything back, because has she forgotten that Wade forgot all the abuse & only remembered it last year March. He told them according to her in April.
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I'm confused about that too. There was this story that he didn't tell, because Michael told him they would both go to jail. Then they say he only remembers it since last year. Unless the story is that Michael told him they would both go to jail and so Wade got so traumatized by that that he forgot everything for 20 years. (But then how did he remember that MJ threatened him with something?)

Of Course more is to come. They always say that. The more will be the details that have been made up. I am sure he used a lot of details from books, tv movies, & the other 2 shake downers.
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I think all the stories from Gutierrez's book, from Blanca Francia's and Adrian McManus' testimonies will now become "true"...


On another note: Maybe we shouldn't post so many sites from tabloids in this thread. Why give them all this attention, & why go & vote on these sites. It is best to send any information to the estate for them to fight this false claim, rather than send information to a tabloid. A tabloid is not going to fight this case for us. When have they ever done something like that?
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Agree totally. Some fans on LSA engage themselves with TMZ, sending them info etc. and I don't like that. It's not the tabloids where Michael has to win this case.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

I don't know if this person is really as much of an insider as seems, but interesting (does anyone know who she is?):

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s he thought he was in, and felt he was entitled to anything Michael Jackson , because of his loyalty

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s but, ppl close to the situation felt he was really obsessed about doing this project and heartbroken

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s when he wasn't chosen. I'm told they had other reasons for not choosing him, tho

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s respecting him and allowing him to walk away without exposing the reasons, would allow him to

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s continue on the path of his career. But, this is a game changer and it will all come out

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s I'm hearing he was on the short list, but their was never an agreement offered to him for the show

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s what he better know is, he has walked into a lion's den, at feeding time, empty handed

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s He is not dealing with Mike and they are not about to open the floodgates for opportunist like him

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Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @tommyparker80s he's dealing with his own self inflicted demons, caused his life to fall apart. Desperate ppl do desperate things

https://twitter.com/SmoovArt
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Respect You Are The Best!!!! Now isn't that what we were wondering about--that something with cirque caused someone to be pissed off and decide to play dirty. Oh let him bring his case then. That person is right--he is not playing with sweet Michel here but Branca who claimed he could be a SOB when the occasion calls for it, and the estate's lawyer is no fool either. These mean know how to deal with dirt!!

Wade felt he would get this job because he always talked about Michael & was in the trial. However Cirque & the estate wanted the best person for the job & it appears that there were some issues with Wade that they did not want to disclose. They did not want to spoil his chances of getting work elsewhere it seems. Well Wade, goodbye to your career. Your lawyer is right when he said you were in a career trajectory--which I think means your career was going off track in another direction. The direction most likely being downwards.

Wasn't sosodef a poster here before?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]



Wade Robson denies being molested by Michael Jackson in 2003 as a guest on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Yeah i know so so ill ask if this smooth is legit
 
Petrarose;3821824 said:
Respect You Are The Best!!!! Now isn't that what we were wondering about--that something with cirque caused someone to be pissed off and decide to play dirty. Oh let him bring his case then. That person is right--he is not playing with sweet Michel here but Branca who claimed he could be a SOB when the occasion calls for it, and the estate's lawyer is no fool either. These mean know how to deal with dirt!!

Wade felt he would get this job because he always talked about Michael & was in the trial. However Cirque & the estate wanted the best person for the job & it appears that there were some issues with Wade that they did not want to disclose. They did not want to spoil his chances of getting work elsewhere it seems. Well Wade, goodbye to your career. Your lawyer is right when he said you were in a career trajectory--which I think means your career was going off track in another direction. The direction most likely being downwards.

Wasn't sosodef a poster here before?
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I can believe the thing with Cirque. This article from December 2008 is about Wade and his wife being replaced by Jamie King on a Britney tour.

I reported back in November that Wade Robson and his wife were directing and choreographing Britney’s upcoming tour as Wade himself stated in a video, but plans have changed. Wade was actually only hired to direct Britney’s Circus promotional tour which had ended in Japan.
Jamie King, who also directed Madonna’s Sticky and Sweet Tour which by the way raked in A LOT of money is now replacing Wade and his wife as Britney Spears Circus’ Tour Director while Simon Ellis is the Musical Director for the tour.


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http://www.crushable.com/2008/12/26...jamie-king-in-for-britney-spears-circus-tour/

I don't know what was wrong with him, but I think something must have happened there as well for him to be replaced. (And by Jamie King - just like for the Cirque show...)
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Petrarose said:
Can we find out when exactly Cirque hired someone other than Wade to see how long after that situation Wade filed the claim? .... Now more than ever I am beginning to think this situation involves revenge & has something to do with being disappointed about not being part of, or getting money for Cirque.
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Petrarose said:
Respect You Are The Best!!!! Now isn't that what we were wondering about--that something with cirque caused someone to be pissed off and decide to play dirty.
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If his allegations have anything to do with this then I have nothing to say. That must be the most absurd thing ever. To get back at MJ in such a vicious way because what his Estate/Cirque might have done? I just cant see it because it seems so out of touch. He is not getting back at Estate here, he is getting back at Michael.

ULTIMATE BETRAYAL. If possible, I hope the Estate counter-sues his ass.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

That twitter makes me believe that Wade is accusing Michael of an horrendous crime just because he didn't get into a contract with the estate. What it's going on with him. Doesn't he realize he's hurting Michael, a person who was nice to him. I don't know If Wade's friends might want to continue with their friendship. He's a traitor and his friends will never know when Wade will be ready to stab them in the back too.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

I'm glad this nonsense hasn't (yet) blown up and gotten more publicity, but it's still extremely painful for us fans to see Michael's name being dragged through the mud by someone he trusted, yet again. I can only assume that Wade has had some troubling personal issues and perhaps indeed a mental breakdown that has led to this utterly despicable behaviour and bad judgement on his part. Maybe he has even started to believe his own lies. I just pray that he comes to his senses.

I don't know about you guys, but what has helped me most was thinking about Macaulay Culkin. I just re-read and watched some of the statements he's made defending Michael in the past (a great collection is presented here - http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/macaulay-culkin-is-michael-jacksons-true-friend/) and all I can say is - if there was any child that Michael was truly close with, in a way that it was clearly visible that the two had a unique friendship and enjoyed each other's company - it's Mac. And to see him unwavering in his defense of Michael (as a special character with his childlike qualities and quirks, but NEVER any wrongdoing towards children) should put every outsider's mind at ease about any doubts they might have.

PS This is my first post on an MJ forum in YEARS. It just hasn't been the same since his passing. But I'm still here in spirit! Stay strong!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Vici said:
Why is Chantal sharing links on her facebook of MJ memorabilia though?
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Maybe she's the one selling them? Wanting to get rid of them?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Aquarius said:
That twitter makes me believe that Wade is accusing Michael of an horrendous crime just because he didn't get into a contract with the estate. What it's going on with him. Doesn't he realize he's hurting Michael, a person who was nice to him. I don't know If Wade's friends might want to continue with their friendship. He's a traitor and his friends will never know when Wade will be ready to stab them in the back too.
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I don't believe it's that. Why would a lawyer and a psy agreed to join him?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Aquarius said:
That twitter makes me believe that Wade is accusing Michael of an horrendous crime just because he didn't get into a contract with the estate. What it's going on with him. Doesn't he realize he's hurting Michael, a person who was nice to him. I don't know If Wade's friends might want to continue with their friendship. He's a traitor and his friends will never know when Wade will be ready to stab them in the back too.
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That must be the last thing on those peoples mind. I believe this thing will be soon over too, i saw a few news articles in the country where i live, and it wasnt that interesting to even the media so it died right after that. How interesting will it be for them when they wont see someone being tortured. it doesnt really sell plus, the story gets old. Youre so right about the backstabbing thing though!!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

shelly_webster said:
I don't believe it's that. Why would a lawyer and a psy agreed to join him?
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because they thought the estate would hand them millions to shut them up before the news broke . They dream of getting a significant piece of the pie $$$$
 
Re: VOTE on TMZ poll about Wade Robson

MJelboo said:
Let's not be naive here. Probably the majority of the public thinks - or at least considers the thought - that MJ was a pedophile. That's just the way it is and it should be no surprise.
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But they're still idiots, I mean a lot haters out there are voting "Yes" and I'd rather censor that "p" word if I were you. And don't get me started on opinions, they're still a lame @$$ excuses from the truth.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

Gwyn Eira said:
Maybe she's the one selling them? Wanting to get rid of them?
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she shared the links in November 2012, that's almost 6 months after he supposedly told them . She did not throw them away ,she waited months then decided to sell them to make a profit . If you believe someone is a monster , someone who molested your brother for 7 years , would you really REALLY advertize his memorabillia on your page ? SERIOUSLY ?

You as a fan who loved MJ ,can you even tolerate the idea of Murray's memorabillia on your facebook ? Would you want to make a profit of someone you consider that disgusting ? Just imagine Paris or Prince trying to sell Murray's things ? can you even realise how absurd the idea is ?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

It's really sad that Michael gets punished again for something he did not do. I am glad his estate is run by people who don't take crap from anybody.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

I am going to love Michael regardless because I can smell bullish. And don't care about anyone else says
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

MLVD said:
I have to put in my 2 cents here.

As a victim of child sexual abuse in the same age range that Wade is claiming you simply don't repress memories. I find it hard to believe that if an incident occurred multiple times over a number of years that you would happen to forget all of them. You certainly wouldn't praise the person who did it.

I do believe that this is for money. My number one concern with what happened to me is that the person who did it is brought to justice. Wade had the opportunity to come forward in 2005. Considering Michael is not alive it you wouldn't gain much from putting his family through this. Money should never be a motive for accusing someone of heinous crimes. This is unfair for the Jacksons because they have to carry the burden of these accusations and not Michael.

He had the opportunity in 2005 to bring up this stuff and he didn't that should be the bottom line here. He had the opportunity to bring Michael to justice considering half the work was done (i.e. the trial).

And no the way he is acting in those videos (I didn't watch them) are not how one would be if they had recently had a breakdown. He wouldn't be able to talk about Michael let alone dance to his music.
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Agreed, I have a friend, and we used to date, we've known each other since kids, but unfortunatly some creep took advantage of her. That's something that sticks with her to this day. She's pass it to the point where she's more than capable of handling herself emotionally, but it's not like she just forgot.



At the end of the day, Wade will have to answer for his sin's just like everyone else. I'll keep the faith and wait until this claim is exposed as the fabricated trash it is.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

^Exactly, GreenEyedOne. I mean how can Wade "repress", then remember and go on a search for others just in time to join his party?! It's ridiculous...LAUGHABLE! And sound like nothin but a shakedown!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

I've had it goodnight everyone
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate [Wade atty pst #406]

respect77 said:
I can believe the thing with Cirque. This article from December 2008 is about Wade and his wife being replaced by Jamie King on a Britney tour.



http://www.crushable.com/2008/12/26...jamie-king-in-for-britney-spears-circus-tour/

I don't know what was wrong with him, but I think something must have happened there as well for him to be replaced. (And by Jamie King - just like for the Cirque show...)
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That is 2 situations already where something went wrong. I wonder if he has some kind of mental illness or some type of instability, because it seems they wanted to keep it quiet to do him a favor. Something is going on with him & we will soon find out about it. I wonder if he had any breakdowns before?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Thread cleaned: Guys I know you mean well but please do not posts unconfirmed tabloid stories of possible other (no named) victims with no named sources for giving that info. If we get a confirmation of another filing, we will deal with it then. But we have enough burden with just this, than to have to speculate and worry about more. This thread is about Wades actual legal filing as it is in Trials and tribulations.

I moved all the posts about That story to controversy for those who wish to discuss it in there there.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ctims-of-Michael-Jackson-waiting-in-the-wings

This thread is about Wade.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm angry
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Damn, (excuse ma French) but this is real f***ed up. Who would do that to someone who trusted them? That's a shame. My mom was victim of sexual abuse, and she didn't magically 'forget' and then remember.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well either he went to the psychiatrist and said he has ideas that he was abused & the psychiatrist believed him and the lawyer did also, or one or both of the professionals know Wade is lying & helping him along. Maybe the lawyer thought the story was true or he knew it was a lie and tried to pass the claim quietly. But somehow I think they are in this scheme together because you can see some thought went into the type of lawyer to choose, & some thought went into "the time frame to use to say he remembered the abuse" so that they could reopen the creditor filing period. Then you see they waited until May to file when the memories came back in March 2012. They were waiting for the case to begin to slip this to the estate for payment.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Petrarose said:
Well either he went to the psychiatrist and said he has ideas that he was abused & the psychiatrist believed him and the lawyer did also, or one or both of the professionals know Wade is lying & helping him along. Maybe the lawyer thought the story was true or he knew it was a lie and tried to pass the claim quietly. But somehow I think they are in this scheme together because you can see some thought went into the type of lawyer to choose, & some thought went into "the time frame to use to say he remembered the abuse" so that they could reopen the creditor filing period. Then you see they waited until May to file when the memories came back in March 2012. They were waiting for the case to begin to slip this to the estate for payment.
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It could be a false memory.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

mdiegee210 said:
Wade's lawyer filed the complaint under seal, did the estate have a chance to see the doc before it was filed?
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Estate will get the complaint. The seal is to make sure that the public can't get it.
 
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