[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't think Wade did the interview for media or public support. I'm thinking it's a way to force Estate into settlement. Pay attention to his statement in which he said this is not about money, I'm not going to go away. Some can argue that it actually means "until you pay me , I'll keep talking about it on the media".
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I thought the same thing, because that was the time he looked directly at the camera & put his head up. It was like him looking directly at Branca & making that statement like a threat. You know, it is almost as though he was thinking: you better pay me, because I am not going anywhere.

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I thought the same thing, because that was the time he looked directly at the camera & put his head up. It was like him looking directly at Branca & making that statement like a threat. You know, it is almost as though he was thinking: you better pay me, because I am not going anywhere.

no, he's like a fungus
Either way, his threats are not working, so let him continue.... LOL

 

[wendijane]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wade Robson is a coward, and that he's chosen to vilify MJ instead of facing his own issues or shortcomings proves it. I so hope people start telling the truth about him. I already know he's a pathological liar.

This ^

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

was robson supposed to be working on "the One" (that opens in june? this year)?

I don't know. Immortal started in the fall of 2011, right? So I don't think that's what he was talking about in July 2011. I think he probably talked about ONE.

 

[la_cienega]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know. Immortal started in the fall of 2011, right? So I don't think that's what he was talking about in July 2011. I think he probably talked about ONE.

He was talking about Immortal and that's what makes his story confusing, he was talking about it like he was working on it though it opened just a couple of months later so obviously he couldn't have.

 

[MIST]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Surely one is to expect an adult to know right from wrong?

it reminds me that there are similarities between WR and Murray

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know. Immortal started in the fall of 2011, right? So I don't think that's what he was talking about in July 2011. I think he probably talked about ONE.

yeah, the ONE. The permanent show in Las Vegas opening next month?

 

[SoCav]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Oh that is good especially if it is after the collapse. The thing is when was it made? Sometimes things are made much earlier & then uploaded later.

I stumbled upon that video before as well thinking that it could be significant, but I researched the dates and the event in Toronto was held in February 2012. So the video is not from December 2012, but February (thus pre-supposed breakdown).

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

No one found where Wade is staying in New York?

It seems Wade thought because he talks about Michael & was on the defense team, he had a natural "in" in the Cirque show. Something happened that caused them to pass over Wade. The first tweet we saw pages & pages back suggests that the bosses did not disclose the reason because they did not want to harm Wade's chances of working in the field. This tells us it is something negative & would impact on his career. Then, the estate trying to be nice (?) claim Wade left because his child was ill & no contract was signed. So was Wade practicing or auditioning for the show before his contract was signed? Wade also talked as though he was part of the show. I think now that he went on tv, people will begin to spill the story about Wade. If it was Michael, they would have spilled a million stories already.

^Was he talking about One or Immortal?

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He was talking about Immortal and that's what makes his story confusing, he was talking about it like he was working on it though it opened just a couple of months later so obviously he couldn't have.

Does he say specifically it's Immortal?

 

[la_cienega]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It had to be "Immortal", One hadn't been officially decided on anything yet back then.

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It had to be "Immortal", One hadn't been officially decided on anything yet back then.

If he's talking about Immortal that makes his comment even more creepy.

 

[Annita]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It had to be "Immortal", One hadn't been officially decided on anything yet back then.

It was clear there will be a permanent show in Las Vegas, only the name wasn`t revealed.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It had to be "Immortal", One hadn't been officially decided on anything yet back then.

Wasn't One being conceptualized then? I mean were they kicking around the idea & planning way in advance of making that official statement? If it was Immortal, then let's say from July 2011 he was going through his rage & planning so that in March 2012--9 months later--his plan was set?

You know I just thought the person who gave the first tweet about Cirque would know if it was Immortal or One. Maybe I can search back to see the name of the guy.

 

[qbee]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Listen, common sense tells us Wade cannot use the excuse that as an adult he did not know or understand sexual acts with a minor is molesation. He was at Michael trial. for heavens sake. He certainly knew the charges and understood what Michael was being charged with at that time. He also stated MJ told him he or both could go to jail if it ever came out/ So yes indeed he would know it was wrong and a crime - Being how close he was to MJ and all the accusations being stated about him. There is no way Wade can claim he didn't understand what molestation is. The fact he stated he never forgot anything that happened to him at the hands of Michael, makes his claims all the more bogus. Because as he was remembering all these claimed molestations acts over the years, he continues to use MJ to further his career and continued to praise him in glowing terms. He is an intelligent adult. (up untill know).

Wade knew what molestation was at the time of MJ's trial while he was being questioned about sexual acts and certainly knew what it was since then and after MJ's death and for him to claim otherwise is a blatant lie and makes him appear as an idiot not to know. Any educated person knows that sexual acts with a minor is molestation and Wade when he was questioned at MJ's trail (when he was in his 20's) obviously knew that based on the questions and his testimony. PLus all the media attention on it .. He would have been better off to go with the "repressed memory" claims because now his claims are more ridiculous than ever. I question the intelligence of interviewers who don't follow up and call him out over stating he as an intelligent adult didn't understand he was molested until recently. .. Puleeeeze

 

[mjjesamor1]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So ... Maybe....-he had a drug problem and wasn't hired because of it. He couldn't cope with the rejection and combined with the drug problem, financial difficulties, stress of becoming a father, stress and grief of MJ's death he had a breakdown. He needed somebody to blame. He needed money. He wanted revenge. If he was under psychiatric care more than lightly he was prescribed mind altering drugs. What a mess. What a long way to fall. I think it's about money and revenge.

 

[Dri]

[video=youtube_share;ElQQeUIyU0w]http://youtu.be/ElQQeUIyU0w[/video]

Wade Robson was singing Michael Jackson's praises as recently as July 30, 2011 ... talking about preserving MJ's legacy and "representing his essence" ... just 8 months before he claims a nervous breakdown sent memories of sexual abuse flooding back.

Robson rhapsodizes about MJ and the influence he had on his life ... telling the reporter from Rhythm Addict TV that he felt a lot of pressure choreographing the MJ Cirque du Soleil show.

But here's the rub. A spokesperson for the Michael Jackson Estate -- which produced the Cirque du Soleil show -- tells TMZ ... Robson was "on the list of choreographers but his son got sick and he wasn't used." The spokesperson said there was never a contract between Wade and the show.

For the moment, I want to return to Robson’s 2011 vid discussing the Cirque du Soleil show. Let’s ask the logical question: If you had suddenly remembered that this person abused you-not once or twice, but repeatedly over a seven year period, would you want to be involved with a multi-million dollar production that is glorifying your abuser?

Well, maybe. If you were getting to be said director of such production. Except that never happened, either. That gig went to Jamie King (also directing the current Michael Jackson One Cirque show, and who also replaced Robson on the Britney Spears Circus tours).

http://www.allforloveblog.com/?p=8069

ps: People on twitter said this story about his son got sick is a excuse because they didnt want to say Wade didnt pass drug tests.

 

[la_cienega]

It was clear there will be a permanent show in Las Vegas, only the name wasn`t revealed.

But had any choreographers been hired yet? When did Jamie King get hired for it?



Taj Jackson · 40 followers
18 minutes ago ·
Sad that the majority of the mainstream media is not interested in researching or printing the truth about my family. They just want to keep feeding the lies and accusations.

https://www.facebook.com/tajjackson/posts/10151698031330864

 

[mjjesamor1]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

His language is very telling too. He claims that he didn't realise that what was happening was wrong but also says that he was 'forced' to perform sexual acts blah blah. If he didn't think it was wrong why woukd he have to be forced? He is clearly lying. His demeanor and language bear no resemblance whatsoever to that of a real victim. In the interview he is cool as a cucumber, cocky even. Can't even come up with his own words to describe what happened to him .., just quickly and with zero emotion repeats the exact words of the man interviewing him.

 

[Annita]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

But had any choreographers been hired yet? When did Jamie King get hired for it?



I think in April 2011 where already the press-prasentation with Jamie King, Branca, Cirque-Chef in Las Vegas for the Immortal show. At this point they said there will be another director for the permanent show in Las Vegas but not clear who it will be.

 

[la_cienega]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

If his creditor claim gets chucked out, what about his lawsuit against Branca/McCain and MJJ Ventures/Productions?

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

My God what a clown... how far did he think he could go with this... I'm beginning to find everything he's said to be hysterical. He is completely delusional if he thinks he will gain anything from this.

Now to wait for his next move. That will surely end in check mate. Bye bye Wade.

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

My apologies if this has already been posted


Jermaine Jackson shocked over nephew's molestation claims

Jermaine Jackson couldn't BELIEVE it when he heard his nephew Taj's claims that a family member had molested him as a child -- telling TMZ, "I've never heard that. I've never ever heard that."

As we reported, Taj Jackson -- one of Tito's sons -- made the announcement on Twitter today, claiming an uncle on his mother's side of the family sexually abused him as a child ... and Michael Jackson counseled him through the trauma.

Taj says he made the announcement in an attempt to discredit Wade Robson's abuse allegations against MJ, claiming, "That is how I KNOW Wade is lying. Because I AM a survivor."

Taj added, MJ "was a support system for me and my mom" during the abuse ordeal.

Taj believes Wade is making up stories about MJ in order to score a payday from the Jackson estate.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/16/jerma...hocked-molestation-wade-robson/#ixzz2TYODfCy5

well, of course Jermaine Jackson wouldn't have a clue. Have they asked Jermaine Jacksun yet?

 

[WhoIsIt89]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Listen, common sense tells us Wade cannot use the excuse that as an adult he did not know or understand sexual acts with a minor is molesation. He was at Michael trial. for heavens sake. He certainly knew the charges and understood what Michael was being charged with at that time. He also stated MJ told him he or both could go to jail if it ever came out/ So yes indeed he would know it was wrong and a crime - Being how close he was to MJ and all the accusations being stated about him. There is no way Wade can claim he didn't understand what molestation is. The fact he stated he never forgot anything that happened to him at the hands of Michael, makes his claims all the more bogus. Because as he was remembering all these claimed molestations acts over the years, he continues to use MJ to further his career and continued to praise him in glowing terms. He is an intelligent adult. (up untill know).

Wade knew what molestation was at the time of MJ's trial while he was being questioned about sexual acts and certainly knew what it was since then and after MJ's death and for him to claim otherwise is a blatant lie and makes him appear as an idiot not to know. Any educated person knows that sexual acts with a minor is molestation and Wade when he was questioned at MJ's trail (when he was in his 20's) obviously knew that based on the questions and his testimony. PLus all the media attention on it .. He would have been better off to go with the "repressed memory" claims because now his claims are more ridiculous than ever. I question the intelligence of interviewers who don't follow up and call him out over stating he as an intelligent adult didn't understand he was molested until recently. .. Puleeeeze

Haha, that made me giggle. You're 100% right Qbee, this scumbag was well aware of the acts that Michael was being accused of, he knew the wrongs and the consequences of said actions. He was a grown ass man at the time, ain't no way in the world this guy didn't no better. At this point, I'd just continue to let him talk, because it's clear the more he says, the less people believe him. Pretty soon, he'll be standing feet first in a 20 foot hole that he dug himself with his mouth.

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Haha, that made me giggle. You're 100% right Qbee, this scumbag was well aware of the acts that Michael was being accused of, he knew the wrongs and the consequences of said actions. He was a grown ass man at the time, ain't no way in the world this guy didn't no better. At this point, I'd just continue to let him talk, because it's clear the more he says, the less people believe him. Pretty soon, he'll be standing feet first in a 20 foot hole that he dug himself with his mouth.

and i'll be first in line with popcorns ready to enjoy that moment

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

well, of course Jermaine Jackson wouldn't have a clue. Have they asked Jermaine Jacksun yet?

Funny!! That was a good one; I needed it^^. The "sun" saved the day!!

Respect I found the tweets you posted like a zillion pages before about the Cirque show, but I still do not know which one it is:



I don't know if this person is really as much of an insider as seems, but interesting (does anyone know who she is?):

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s he thought he was in, and felt he was entitled to anything Michael Jackson , because of his loyalty

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s but, ppl close to the situation felt he was really obsessed about doing this project and heartbroken

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s when he wasn't chosen. I'm told they had other reasons for not choosing him, tho

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s respecting him and allowing him to walk away without exposing the reasons, would allow him to

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s continue on the path of his career. But, this is a game changer and it will all come out

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s I'm hearing he was on the short list, but their was never an agreement offered to him for the show

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s what he better know is, he has walked into a lion's den, at feeding time, empty handed

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@Happychick93 @sosodeaf @tommyparker80s He is not dealing with Mike and they are not about to open the floodgates for opportunist like him

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Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @tommyparker80s he's dealing with his own self inflicted demons, caused his life to fall apart. Desperate ppl do desperate things

https://twitter.com/SmoovArt

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

when were those tweets posted, petrarose?

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Here is another one.

Robson rhapsodizes about MJ and the influence he had on his life ... telling the reporter from Rhythm Addict TV that he felt a lot of pressure choreographing the MJ Cirque du Soleil show.

But here's the rub. A spokesperson for the Michael Jackson Estate -- which produced the Cirque du Soleil show -- tells TMZ ... Robson was "on the list of choreographers but his son got sick and he wasn't used." The spokesperson said there was never a contract between Wade and the show.

Pimboli they were posted by respect on May 11th I think.

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Smoov ?@SmoovArt
@sosodeaf @Happychick93 @tommyparker80s he thought he was in, and felt he was entitled to anything Michael Jackson , because of his loyalty

arrogant little f*cker. So he wanted MJ to keep "paying him back" for supporting him in 05 (and before)? - and he expected that to continue from MJ's estate, and when it didnt, the grapes got sour?

 

[mjjmsc]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

how much money did AEG paid Wade for this allegation? they needed dirt and now they have it... money and lies...I'm glad Michael is not here to see it...I hope he is in a better place...miss you dear angel...