[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[terrell]

But had any choreographers been hired yet? When did Jamie King get hired for it?



Taj Jackson · 40 followers
18 minutes ago ·
Sad that the majority of the mainstream media is not interested in researching or printing the truth about my family. They just want to keep feeding the lies and accusations.

https://www.facebook.com/tajjackson/posts/10151698031330864

Tell Taj that maybe the case in other issue but it is not that with this issue. I thinkmainstream media is not buying this mess. At least they are posting his comment on abuse.

 

[terrell]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

how much money did AEG paid Wade for this allegation? they needed dirt and now they have it... money and lies...I'm glad Michael is not here to see it...I hope he is in a better place...miss you dear angel...

I agree. I just have gut feeling someone else is behind this. I could be wrong but we will see (if ever).

 

[HIStory]

Adrian McManus came out of her woodwork:

Michael Jackson's Maid Claims She Witnessed Child Molestation


Airdate: 05/16/2013 Adrian McManus was once Michael Jackson’s personal maid at Neverland Ranch and in this INSIDE EDITION exclusive interview she says she saw the singer acting inappropriately with young boys.
She claims, “Michael himself told me that whatever happens in Neverland stays in Neverland.”
INSIDE EDITION'S Jim Moret asked, “Do you believe Michael Jackson was a child molester?”
McManus responded, “Yes, I do. He groomed the little boys. I think he was getting them drunk.”
McManus started working for Jackson in 1993, just before the first allegation of child molestation surfaced.
Moret asked, "Did you ever see anything in his bedroom that you thought was wrong?"
McManus responded, "I would walk in and there would be boys laying in his bed with him. I'd walk in his room and his underwear would be floating in the jacuzzi in his bedroom. They'd be floating in the water with the little boys underwear."
McManus claims she was warned by a Jackson employee to never to reveal what she saw , or else.
"He said, 'You know what Adrian, if you ever go on a talk show or a TV show, we can hire a hit man, have your neck slit. They'll never find your body. We can hire a sniper to take you out.' "
The maid testified against Jackson in his 2005 molestation trial claiming she saw him fondle Macaulay Culkin. Culkin denied that allegation and Jackson called her a disgruntled ex-employee.
Jackson died in 2009 and Adrian McManus says she wasn't that surprised because she says she saw him overdose twice before.
McManus recalls, "I thought he was dead. His eyes were opened. It looked like he wasn't breathing. I went up and said, 'Michael. Michael.' And then he like woke up and he started crying. He busted into crying."
She says even though she left Neverland nearly two decades ago, she can't forget some of the things she says she witnessed there.
"I was afraid for my life." McManus said. " I still am to this day."

Source: Inside Edition

So now Michael threatened to kill her? Funny how she forgot to mention this in 2005 and 1993. There's one good thing in all these leeches coming out again though: You can put all the versions of theirs stories - including their testimonies - side by side and see how they evolved. And they provide only more proof that they are liars.

Info about Adrian McManus. She has a long standing relationship with Inside Edition. If you see her story mentioned or referenced anywhere you can use this info against her:

Ralph Chacon, Kassim Abdool and Adrian McManus

The so called “Neverland 5” was a group of five former employees of Jackson: Kassim Abdool, Ralph Chacon, Adrian McManus, Sandy Domz and Melanie Bangall who sued Jackson in the 90s alleging wrongful termination. Three of these five people – Abdool, Chacon and McManus - testified for the prosecution at the Jackson’s 2005 trial in support of their “prior bad acts” case. They claimed that during their employment at Neverland (1990/1991 to 1994) they witnessed Jackson behave inappropriately with children. Former security guard, Chacon claimed he witnessed Jackson sexually molesting Jordan Chandler on one occasion [4]. Former security guard, Abdool, who worked directly with Chacon on the same shift, and described himself as Chacon's friend, did not make that same claim, but he supported Chacon’s allegations by claiming he, too witnessed some of the improprieties Chacon claimed to have witnessed [5]. Former maid, McManus claimed that she witnessed Jackson behave inappropriately with Jordan Chandler, Brett Barnes and Macaulay Culkin [6].
None of these people ever reported or even mentioned what they had allegedly seen at the time that the alleged molestations and improprieties supposedly occurred. These stories first surfaced in the spring of 1994, more than half a year after the Chandler scandal went public.

In actuality, on December 7, 1993 Adrian McManus testified under oath in a deposition for the Chandler civil case that she never observed any inappropriate behavior or any form of sexual behavior by Jackson towards Jordan Chandler or any other child. She even said she trusted Jackson so much that she would have no problem with leaving her son alone with him. When Jackson’s attorney, Thomas Mesereau confronted her with her 1993 deposition in 2005, McManus claimed that she did not tell the truth in that 1993 deposition [6].

Chacon and Abdool first made allegations against Jackson when they were subpoenaed by the prosecution to appear in front of the two Grand Juries which were convened to examine the allegations against Jackson in the spring of 1994. Abdool appeared before the Los Angeles Grand Jury and Chacon appeared before the Santa Barbara Grand Jury. Conveniently, this was also the first time they claimed to have confided in each other about what they had allegedly observed, although they worked on the same shift and they were supposedly friends. Prior to this time they never mentioned to anyone that they witnessed any wrongdoing in regards to Jackson. In fact, on January 13, 1994 Abdool signed a statement for Jackson’s representatives that stated had never seen Jackson touch any child in a sexually inappropriate manner or in any way that could be construed as sexual [5].

When Chacon and Abdool changed their stories and first came up with claims of improprieties and child molestation, Chacon was deposed by District Attorney, Thomas Sneddon and Detective Russ Birchim for the Chandler case. At the time, Chacon asked Birchim for money to help him relocate his wife. Birchim delivered the money and the gun permit that Chacon had also requested [6]. Jackson’s lawyer, Thomas Mesereau asked Chacon about it during Jackson’s 2005 trial. First Chacon said he did not remember but when Mesereau showed him a transcript of his deposition, he slowly acknowledged his prior testimony, stating it “probably” happened. When questioned by Sneddon on redirect examination Chacon suddenly remembered everything clearly. However, Sneddon quickly cut him off, stating “it’s not important”.

Quote:
Q. You indicated that you may have asked Sergeant or now Commander Birchim for money for your wife --
A. Yes, sir.
Q. -- do you recall? Do you remember why that was?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Why was that?
A. Well, my wife’s sister-in-law had just died, and --
Q. That’s all right, I’ll withdraw the question. That’s okay. It’s not important. [6]​

Shortly after that time, Abdool and Chacon (McManus joined later) went to a civil attorney, Michael Ring, who on their behalf, on December 2, 1994, filed a civil lawsuit against Jackson and other employees of the star demanding $16 million in damages (eventually all five people of the “Neverland 5” group). They claimed that during their employment they were harassed and intimidated, which resulted in emotional distress and various medical problems that made them “emotionally disabled” and unable to work. They also claimed that they were wrongfully terminated by Jackson. Jackson counter-sued and eventually Chacon and McManus were found guilty of stealing from Jackson’s property [4] [5] [6].

At the civil trial the Neverland 5 and their attorney were sanctioned $66,000 for lying during their depositions and on the stand and for discovery violations (ie. for hiding evidence from Jackson’s lawyers). Judge Zel Canter, who presided over the civil trial, left the bench after stating he was disgusted [7]. The jury rejected the wrongful termination lawsuit against Jackson and ordered the Neverland 5 to pay him damages. The court also imposed attorneys fees and costs of $1.4 million against plaintiffs. As of the time of their testimony in 2005 none of them paid the damages to Jackson. According to his testimony, after the verdict in the civil trial Chacon filed for bankruptcy. [4] [5] [6]

During the 2005 trial, while on the stand, Chacon denied he knew anything about the amount of money his lawyer demanded from Jackson at the civil trial. However, documents from a deposition of Chacon at the time showed that not only did he know of the $16 million demand from the entertainer, but at one point Chacon even said that $16 million was not enough. Later, on re-cross examination Chacon admitted he knew how much money was demanded in the lawsuit. He also said in a deposition that Jackson should compensate him for the rest of his life [4].

Before their lawsuit in the 90s, under the direction of their attorney, Michael Ring the Neverland 5 contacted a tabloid broker, Gary Morgan from the Splash News and Picture Agency to sell slanderous stories about Jackson and children and also about Jackson and his then wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Morgan arranged interviews with magazines, such as The Star and TV programs, such as Inside Edition [4] [5] [6]. According to McManus’ 2005 testimony, $32,000 or more was received for their stories and almost all of it went to Ring, to finance their civil lawsuit, from which they hoped to get millions of dollars [6]. Chacon admitted that before they went to The Star they also talked to a certain journalist, Victor Gutierrez [4]. Abdool also talked about this connection, stating that he met Gutierrez once and they had a two, three hours conversation [5]. McManus testified that Gutierrez “was going to try to help us in our lawsuit” [6].

On the stand Abdool claimed that he, Chacon and McManus did not discuss and harmonize their stories in advance that they were selling to tabloids. However, this was contradicted by Chacon’s testimony in which he admitted they made drafts about their stories in Ring’s office about what they were going to tell tabloids [4] [5].

Besides making money, another purpose for these interviews and the Neverland 5’s claims of having witnessed Jackson in improper situations with children: putting pressure on him and trying to make him settle the case. Although at Jackson’s 2005 trial Chacon claimed not to have known anything about such tactics, he admitted it would not surprise him if that was the case.

Quote:
Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: At the time you and Mr. Abdool and Ms. McManus and your lawyer went to a tabloid to give a story about Mr. Jackson, do you know whether or not your lawyer was trying to negotiate money from Mr. Jackson?
A. No, sir.
Q. Do you know whether or not your lawyer was trying to pressure Mr. Jackson by threatening bad publicity?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you ever hear of anything like that going on?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. So if that went on, you’d be shocked, true?
A. Probably not, sir.
Q. Probably not?
A. I guess not, no. [4]
​

One of Chacon’s complaints in the 1995 lawsuit against Jackson was that Jackson caused him emotional distress because he “stared at him all the time” [4]. Because of that he claimed he was entitled to damages. When his claim was found to be false Jackson’s attorney, Tom Mesereau asked him why he said that if it was not true. Chacon’s answer was: “I guess just to say it” [4].


During the civil trial in the 1990s, another former employee of Jackson’s, Francine Orosco testified that McManus asked her to say she witnessed a male employee of Jackson sexually harass McManus. Orosco also testified that she visited McManus at home during their employment and McManus showed her a room filled with watches, posters, clocks, sunglasses, T-shirts and laundry baskets filled with Michael Jackson’s clothes and other items she stole from Neverland. It was also found that McManus stole a drawing Jackson made of Elvis Presley and sold it for $1000 to Gary Morgan from Splash [6].

It also emerged that earlier McManus and her husband were ordered to pay $17,000 each in another lawsuit, in which it was ascertained that they stole money from an estate that was set-up for minor relatives of McManus. They willfully and maliciously defrauded Shane and Megan McManus, a nephew and a niece of Adrian McManus, out of their money. They were sued by Rosalie Hill, the children's guardian ad litem. Judge Richard A. St. John found that the the money was held in the trust for the benefit of those two children and McManus and her husband dissipated those funds [6] [7].

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

arrogant little f*cker. So he wanted MJ to keep "paying him back" for supporting him in 05 (and before)? - and he expected that to continue from MJ's estate, and when it didnt, the grapes got sour?

That sums it up^^. Some people feel you owe them for life. He used the relationship between him & Michael to gain visibility & jobs. Maybe he praised Michael because he really admired him, but he also did so for his own glory & career. I guess Michel knew & did not care about that. I guess Michael thought: Hey, if a guy could talk about my talent & it helps him, that's ok. Now we understand why his talks about Michael were so endless--Michael was his meal ticket. Then comes this bad estate that did not let him have a job that would pay him in the 6 figures, a job he was entitled to because he felt he has saved Michael from Sneddon. A blood vessel probably popped in his head, the way one popped in Randy's head.

Mjjmsc I still do not believe that AEG has anything to do with Wade. I think Wade did this all on his own due to revenge, lack of funds, & I am not ruling out mental issues. We have already found out that all the moms of the kids who claimed abuse had some mental issue. Here Wade's mom did not file the complaint, but Wade himself.

 

[angelofhope]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

my heart has been broken every since this story broke. It kills me that even in Michael's death nasty people are still making up LIES about for MONEY. I am so sick of this crap. I just hope the kids aren't being bullied in school over these lies about their father. all I can do is just pray for Michael and his entire family. I pray that God makes alright, I really do.

So do I. Remember God has always been on Michaels side

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

how much money did AEG paid Wade for this allegation?

Why would AEG hitch their saddle to that broken down horse?

Wade Robson can't even keep his story straight. He's story makes no sense. He has no credibility, why in the world would AEG want to be in cahoots with him? In my opinion, it makes no sense.

All of that being said, I ain't trying to be mean, but Wade Robson has also admitted to having 2 NERVOUS BREAKDOWNS. (True or not, he has now admitted it to the public.) Which in my opinion, means homeboy is not too stable, which makes him dangerous. He could flip the script at any moment.

 

[mjbunny]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

You guys, thanks so much! I'm tweeting all these article/vid links and facts. Everyone needs to know these things!

 

[Pimboli]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Then comes this bad estate that did not let him have a job that would pay him in the 6 figures, a job he was entitled to because he felt he has saved Michael from Sneddon

so now it's payback time. Which ties in perfectly with his "im not gonna go away" threat. Not to mention his creditor's claim. He filed the creditor's claim to get the money he felt he was entitled to (the salary as lead choreographer for the cirque shows). Since that didnt work out, he went on step ahead and filed the civil suit.....

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Respect didn't she talk to some other rag this week already. The one where she said she was vindicated. I don't see how she is so afraid for her life, but pops up & give interviews when the sewer overflows.

Michael is something really to make so many people believe in his threats & keep them quiet. He dies and still have people scared of him. One, 29 yer old even thought he could go to jail, because Michael said so. Michael you bad boy you. Where did you get that magic that you do so well?

Big Apple I think so too about the break down. Wade is going to come crashing down when this thing does not work, & it is not going to be pretty for those in his house. I hope today wherever he is, he is not taking out his rage on the little kid or the wife by being impatient & shot tempered.

 

[Dri]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Craig Baxter has posted his analysis of the interview. Here are Parts I and II:

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Respect didn't she talk to some other rag this week already. The one where she said she was vindicated. I don't see how she is so afraid for her life, but pops up & give interviews when the sewer overflows.

That was Blanca Francia. All the leeches come out of the woodwork. I'm expecting Ralph Chacon and Kassim Abdool show up soon as well.

 

[Dri]

Wade’s TODAY SHOW interview and my analysis of it: (Note: I am no Craig Baxter, but I’m going to give a good stab at it, anyway! Hopefully, Baxter -the REAL body language expert-will be weighing in shortly).

However, let’s note already that Robson has dropped a huge bombshell, in having publicly recanted his “repressed memory” defense. Well, good for you, Wade! We knew it was baloney, so at least you came to your senses on that one. But…where does this leave his credibility now?

Since the show’s airing and the posting of the vid this morning, I’ve been reading various amateur attempts at analysis (and admittedly, mine is one more amateur attempt to add to the growing list). But I want to caution against placing too much emphasis on things like eye contact and breaking gaze. These things can mean someone is lying. But they can also be signs of intense concentration or a kind of defense mechanism when speaking on a subject that is emotionally distressing.


However, Wade’s entire demeanor here seems to me incredibly calculated and rehearsed-far more than he ever appeared in all of his videos praising Michael, which seemed to derive from a naturally bubbly personality and the easy, spontaneity of truth.

That is gone now. THIS Wade appears calculated and restrained, and under duress. (The duress of his lie? Fear of its repercussions? Guilt? Fear of not living up to his coaches/sponsors? Or the strain of bearing the burden of truth? It could well be all of these; I’ll explain more in due order).

I do sense a lot of anger in Wade. I believe the stories of the breakdown are true. But just who is he angry at, and why? Well, if we could get to the heart of that, we could certainly get to the heart of this whole mystery.

There are a couple of very obvious stress triggers for Wade in this interview: Any mention of money, his coaching story, and when pressed directly about his feelings for Michael-then and now. I think it would be fair to say that his interview represents a mixed bag of lies and truth. But how to separate which is which?

At 1:54 Robson is asked how he feels. His statement, “I feel strong” is a huge contradiction between words and body language, and to me is at the core of everything that is wrong and “off” about him in this interview. He is not feeling strong or confident at all; quite the contrary, his body language and entire demeanor is that of someone feeling very vulnerable and unsure of himself. Ever hear the phrase squirming? I believe wholeheartedly this is a man squirming inside. He keeps a very defensive pose throughout the interview, with legs crossed and body posture very rigid. This is a sign of extreme discomfort. Since Wade is already a public figure, and has been for much of his life, we can’t attribute this to nerves, so obviously it is the discomfort with the subject at hand.Now, possibly, there are two ways to read into this. One could be that he is under duress because he is lying, and knows it. Another “possible” explanation could be that coming out the other end of a traumatic ordeal, such as a complete emotional breakdown, can leave one feeling drained and devoid of animation. It’s too close to call which it might be, but I would reason to guess that Wade HAS been through some sort of trauma in the past year, and it has either left him shell shocked OR has just completely transformed him into a bitter, lying jackass. Take your pick.

What does he mean by “MY truth?” His sister Chantal used that same choice of words on her FB page.

Here is something Wade would have learned from his idol MJ: When Michael released his album “HIStory” there was a reason that the emphasis was placed on “HIS,” giving the title an instant double meaning-or additional layer of meaning. History, in essence, is written by the conquerors. History is a narrative written by others, of past events that have shaped us into who we are. But in emphasizing “HIS” Michael was personalizing the story to say, “This is MY history and MY story.” It remains to this day one of the most clever album titles in all the “history” of pop music.

But it can also be a very neat way to circumvent truth. After all, no one can invalidate one’s personal truth because truth is always in the eye of the beholder. A child, for example, may recall an event completely differently from the way the adults around him remember it. Does that, then, make the child’s version invalid? Or the adults’? No. It is simply two versions of the same truth, or the same reality-but viewed differently because the perceptions of an adult are vastly different from those of a child. A house that looks incredibly small to an adult may, for example, appear incredibly large to a small child. You get the idea.

If Wade Robson says, “This is my truth,” who is going to argue that? I think his words are coming from a complete knowledge and understanding that, from this moment going forward, there are going to be two distinct versions of this “truth”-the one he puts out vs. what the fans of Michael and his proponents will continue to put out to deflect him, not to mention the attorneys down the road who will rip him under cross examination. By phrasing it as “my truth” he is getting an early edge on the uphill battle against his credibility that he knows is coming.

It can also be read as a defiant statement against what the rest of the world thinks. Either way, he is making his phrasing very deliberate in order to circumvent the tough questions to his credibility that are surely coming.

It’s like trying to argue with a class of freshmen in English 102 that everyone’s interpretation of a piece of literature has validity…to a point. But then, at some point, you have to be able to back your claim. If you don’t have the evidence to back it up, your entire thesis/hypothesis will fall through. Same thing here.

Wade is asked about his 2005 testimony. Here is where he drops the ball completely and admits this was never an issue of repressed memory. But here is a huge problem for Wade. His own attorney has already made the statement to the press that this was a case of repressed memory! He has doctors who have already sworn to repressed memory as the entire basis of his claim! And basically, by admitting now that it was not repressed memory and that he was always aware of what was happening to him (alleging anything “did” happen), he is confessing that-as a fully competent adult in 2005-he knowingly committed perjury on the witness stand!

Either way, his credibility is shot because the way any judge is going to look at this case is: This guy either lied big time-twice!-under oath, and once as a fully competent adult, OR he is lying now. In either event, it puts his credibility into dire question.

I wanted to share with you a kick-ass comment I read from GlitterySocks on the Positively Michael forum (the underlined emphasis is mine):


I hope that people are not conflating the issues you mentioned with the facts at hand. Here, the facts at hand are that 1) his lawyer said that it is a repressed memory, and 2) that is what the case is built on. This is the entire psychological phenomenon that they used as a basis to be eligible for this late filing, and to explain the discrepancies in his 2005 testimony. Surely Wade was complicit with this assessment prior to filing– I would imagine that extensive tests and analysis occurred before deciding to go forward with this lawsuit. Doctors are involved in this case based on the repressed memory theory and lawyer statements have been made to the public (ie-potential judge and jurors). Now this incredibly critical point is suddenly dismissed and it is a case built on something else entirely (and which may not be eligible for a late filing).

I do not see how any judge or jury will ever be able to ascertain if this man is ever telling the truth about anything.

http://www.positivelymichael.com/fo...e-Robson-files-child-molestation-claim/page27



The problem is that, regardless of whether this is being treated as a civil matter of a debtor’s claim, the statute of limitations isn’t that easily circumvented. And Wade has just effectively shot down whatever slim chance he had on the repressed memory angle-not to mention having called his entire history of credibility into serious questioning!

Wade’s next uncomfortable trigger is when pressed about his 2005 testimony. He waivers visibly under any direct questions regarding money or this alleged “coaching” from Michael Jackson. Here is why I have a very hard time buying his coaching story: He states very specifically that after the Chandler allegations broke, Michael would call him every day and they would role play, rehearsing what Wade was to say.

For starters, Michael would have been way too smart to be having such phone conversations with ANY kid at ANY time, but especially after 1993! Michael was all too aware that anything said in a phone conversation could be taped at any time, by anybody, and used against him. As a celebrity, he was always aware of the threat of extortion; and over the years, as his mistrust increased, he would have been extra careful to not put himself in such a vulnerable and incriminating position.

Of course, given the nature of what he was being accused of, and its dire seriousness-and knowing full well that his young friends would be questioned and even grilled, it might have been understandable that Michael may have coached him in some regard about what to say; after all, even a true statement from a child can be misconstrued by an over zealous attorney or investigator. So perhaps it might be plausible Michael did coach him, but I don’t buy that these sessions occurred over the phone, and certainly not every day.

Wade breaks his gaze and shifts when asked directly about what Michael did to him. Of course, that again could be read two ways: Shame and embarrassment with discussing such a private issue, or lying. It seemed to me that he was almost fishing for a plausible response that would sound honest enough without making him sound as if he was totally throwing Michael under the bus (even though, of course, he was doing just that!). It is interesting that the information he did share sounded suspiciously like Jordan Chandler’s interview with Dr. Gardner. Again, this “could” be proof of a pattern, but just as likely, could also mean nothing more than that Wade is familiar with these sources. Take it for what it’s worth.

And just to reiterate a very powerful comment I saw on TMZ, “Michael wasn’t role playing with him for the last three years!”

And let’s go back to this point, which can’t be stressed enough: Wade Robson was a 22-year-old ADULT when he testified in 2005. If he was being manipulated, he was freely and willingly allowing himself to be manipulated!

No, here is the straight and skinny on that. He was either being completely truthful in 2005, OR:

He is a stinking, lying piece of offal who thoroughly enjoyed having sex with MJ, loved it, loved Michael, and loved what Michael was doing for him, and loved him even into adulthood, so much that he was perfectly willing to throw Gavin Arvizo and the others under the bus…and is just as willing now to throw Michael under that bus with him. (And isn’t it strange that he would use the term “an expression of our love?” Yes, I know he was supposedly quoting Michael, but I detected more than a hint of mutual sincerity in that statement. As they always say, it’s a very thin line between love and hate, and what I believe is that something-whatever-has pushed Wade over that edge from love to hate).

Sorry to be so blunt, but those are the only two choices. Wade doesn’t get to have it both ways. And given his adult status at the time, he can’t just admit he lied in 2005 and brush it all off that easily. “Oh, I was brainwashed.”

Like I said before, this is a young man with a LOT of answering to do, either way. It boils down to one simple truth: He is a liar. Whether he lied in 2005 or now, either way he is a liar. And I can’t wait for the cross examinations to begin!

Is there any sincerity in his interview? I believe there is still some genuine. mixed emotion when he is asked how he feels about Michael. There is a hint of the old animation here. All of his praise of Michael’s talent and as an inspiration to him through the years has been sincere, and that still comes through here. But there is also a lot of obvious discomfort with once again being put in a position to describe Michael in even these mixed terms. Again, this can be read one of two ways: Discomfort because it is a distressing and painful subject, or guilt because it forcing him to confront and acknowledge what he is doing to this man’s legacy and to his children. Since it can be read either way, I don’t know how much weight to give it, but clearly it is a sore point for him.

Whatever the case may be, it was a done deal when he uttered the “p” word and Michael’s name in the same breath, on national TV. There is no turning back from this point. Fans are never going to forgive Wade Robson. Michael Jackson’s family and children are never going to forgive him.

Okay, so maybe he doesn’t need the fans, or the Jackson family.

But he does need a judge to take him seriously, and at the rate he’s going, he is effectively shooting himself in the foot.

And besides, there’s something to be said about burned bridges. You never know when you might want to turn back, or wish you’d never been so quick to light that match.

Wade has burned his bridges along with his credibility.

Of all the things I take from this interview, there are only two things for which I believe Wade is truly sincere: Something has happened to him in the last year or so. Perhaps he was abused (but who’s to say that Michael was the abuser? As Corey Feldman has said, pedophilia is rampant in Hollywood). Could it be possible that he is simply transferring his anger and pain at another onto Michael, simply because Michael is an easier target and/or AEG is sponsoring him to lie?

Well, that is getting into the realm of pure speculation, but here is one thing that is not speculation: Wade Robson, currently, is a very angry and troubled man. My personal belief is that he is making Michael a scapegoat for his own issues-and not for the reasons he is raising here. His current demeanor also reveals a strong, sociopathic streak that was not evident before. He seems to be out for #1 now, and will stop at no means to do that.

I will apologize again if some of my words seem uncharacteristically blunt, but either way the scales are tipped (whether you believed Wade in 2005, or now) he has openly revealed himself as a liar who places his own needs and his own motives ahead of the welfare of others. He did not care about other abused children in 2005 (and let me remind you again, he was a fully capable adult at that time) and he does not care about them now.

What he does care about, very much, is Michael Jackson’s money.

But I have a feeling all the money in the world can’t fix Wade Robson’s problems.

Whatever they are.

Source: http://www.allforloveblog.com/?p=8069

 

[Diplomate]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

how much money did AEG paid Wade for this allegation? they needed dirt and now they have it... money and lies...I'm glad Michael is not here to see it...I hope he is in a better place...miss you dear angel...

AEG didn't pay Robson, they even didn't know about these lies.

Do you remember this tweet last summer from Ragu Jack$on " THIS IS NOT OVER! "

Not over, indeed....

 

[Dri]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Judas has landed at LAX Video: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_h3mwtpde Wade Robson says he feels LIBERATED after opening up about the alleged sex abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson on national TV ... and says he hopes he inspires other people to "speak their truth."

Robson had just landed at LAX yesterday after his big tell-all interview with Matt Lauer on the "Today" show -- and said he has no regrets about going public with his MJ accusations.

While Wade's story is under fire -- considering he so vehemently DEFENDED Michael during the 2005 molestation trial -- the dance choreographer says he hopes his decision to come forward will be viewed as inspirational.

"If my coming forward and speaking the truth can help, honestly, one [person] to gain courage to speak their truth and begin the healing process then that would really be more than I could ask."

TMZ broke the story ... Wade is going after the Michael Jackson Estate in court, claiming MJ sexually abused him as a child. Wade said he waited so long to take action because he didn't realize he was being abused until recently. http://www.tmz.com/2...-victims-video/

 

[HIStory]

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Judas has landed at LAX Video: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_h3mwtpde Wade Robson says he feels LIBERATED after opening up about the alleged sex abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson on national TV ... and says he hopes he inspires other people to "speak their truth."

Fishing for others to make an allegations against MJ... and for sympathy. Trying to act like he's this great champion of abuse victims is so disgusting.

BTW, why did he land at LAX? What media he's next on?

 

[terrell]

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You guys, thanks so much! I'm tweeting all these article/vid links and facts. Everyone needs to know these things!

I agree. These types of article need to be on every website.

 

[ScaredOfTheMoon]

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Couldn't Jermaine for once keep his mouth shut:angry:
With his statement, he makes TAJ sound like he made it up his tweets about him being molested by family member, and he made it up to protect Michael.

Yeah, he should've just said "no comment" and walked away if it's something he doesn't know about.

I saw this tweet about Jermaine not knowing this about Taj and it made me laugh because it is so spot on

Ben_Baggins ?@BenBaggins20h
Jerkmaine is shocked? LOL Like someone would confide in you. You'd probably have written a book on how you saved Taj.

 

[terrell]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Judas has landed at LAX Video: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_h3mwtpde Wade Robson says he feels LIBERATED after opening up about the alleged sex abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson on national TV ... and says he hopes he inspires other people to "speak their truth."

Robson had just landed at LAX yesterday after his big tell-all interview with Matt Lauer on the "Today" show -- and said he has no regrets about going public with his MJ accusations.

While Wade's story is under fire -- considering he so vehemently DEFENDED Michael during the 2005 molestation trial -- the dance choreographer says he hopes his decision to come forward will be viewed as inspirational.

"If my coming forward and speaking the truth can help, honestly, one [person] to gain courage to speak their truth and begin the healing process then that would really be more than I could ask."

TMZ broke the story ... Wade is going after the Michael Jackson Estate in court, claiming MJ sexually abused him as a child. Wade said he waited so long to take action because he didn't realize he was being abused until recently. http://www.tmz.com/2...-victims-video/

Inspiritional? Man, you got on a court stand and SWORE UNDER OATH and PASS A CROSS EXAMINE to help MJ. And now you coming with this. See, a fool does not know when to stop.

 

[LindavG]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Judas has landed at LAX Video: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_h3mwtpde Wade Robson says he feels LIBERATED after opening up about the alleged sex abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson on national TV ... and says he hopes he inspires other people to "speak their truth."

Robson had just landed at LAX yesterday after his big tell-all interview with Matt Lauer on the "Today" show -- and said he has no regrets about going public with his MJ accusations.

While Wade's story is under fire -- considering he so vehemently DEFENDED Michael during the 2005 molestation trial -- the dance choreographer says he hopes his decision to come forward will be viewed as inspirational.

"If my coming forward and speaking the truth can help, honestly, one [person] to gain courage to speak their truth and begin the healing process then that would really be more than I could ask."

TMZ broke the story ... Wade is going after the Michael Jackson Estate in court, claiming MJ sexually abused him as a child. Wade said he waited so long to take action because he didn't realize he was being abused until recently. http://www.tmz.com/2...-victims-video/

Just like we predicted, he's hoping other "victims" will come forward to gain credibility.

 

[ScaredOfTheMoon]

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Just watched the video of Wade at LAX. There is NO emotion in his voice when he speaks of this socalled molestation at all. He might as well be reading aloud from the phonebook, that's how emotionless his voice sounds. He is so fake.

 

[Petrarose]

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That was Blanca Francia. All the leeches come out of the woodwork. I'm expecting Ralph Chacon and Kassim Abdool show up soon as well.

Oh good grief thanks. In my head all these people merge at times.

 

[I♥MJ]

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Just shows once again mike couldn't trust anybody... Pretty ****ed up for wade to do this AFTER MJ passes and can't defend himself.

 

[terrell]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Respect didn't she talk to some other rag this week already. The one where she said she was vindicated. I don't see how she is so afraid for her life, but pops up & give interviews when the sewer overflows.

Michael is something really to make so many people believe in his threats & keep them quiet. He dies and still have people scared of him. One, 29 yer old even thought he could go to jail, because Michael said so. Michael you bad boy you. Where did you get that magic that you do so well?

Big Apple I think so too about the break down. Wade is going to come crashing down when this thing does not work, & it is not going to be pretty for those in his house. I hope today wherever he is, he is not taking out his rage on the little kid or the wife by being impatient & shot tempered.

She was too dramatic and clearly lying. and she said Mj wanted to kill her? LOL. That alone will make people laugh and see through this. I notice NO ONE is talking about her. I just emailed Inside Edition and told them how they were stupid to interview this woman and why didn't they confront her about he testimony in 2005. She was scared. Give me a break.

 

[LindavG]

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Fishing for others to make an allegations against MJ... and for sympathy. Trying to act like he's this great champion of abuse victims is so disgusting.

BTW, why did he land at LAX? What media he's next on?

That's what I find most obnoxious of all.

 

[I♥MJ]

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Oh and the repressed memories are bullshit...This man has been in court hearing all the "details" of the trial...You mean to tell me after listening to those details nothing didn't trigger his memory... I can't

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So he says he needed to do this because he learnt he has to speak it as loudly as he did to begin to heal. How does that jive with the fact they first filed their creditors' claim under seal?

 

[Diplomate]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yeah, he should've just said "no comment" and walked away if it's something he doesn't know about.

I saw this tweet about Jermaine not knowing this about Taj and it made me laugh because it is so spot on

Ben_Baggins ?@BenBaggins20h
Jerkmaine is shocked? LOL Like someone would confide in you. You'd probably have written a book on how you saved Taj.

It's from Ben, she's a member of this forum.

 

[I♥MJ]

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And another thing that hurts me is MJ can't defend himself...That's what hurts the most if he was alive I would no doubt BE hurt to see he's being accused of this! ...but its worst with him not being here and that's what pisses me off...it's like a smear on his legacy... Like oh let's wait until he dies and start accusing him of this...

 

[maral]

I’m going to be blunt and honest. I’m an average fan who by no means worship MJ. Thus I never ruled out the possibility of the accusations being true just because it’s about Michael. With each accusation I question, examine and make my conclusion. With this story I was chocked, confused and sad. My logic told me well who knows, I wasn’t there. Now that we know what this is about it doesn’t make ANY sense. At the age of 22 any sane person knows what molestation means. And a true victim would do anything to get a pedophile behind bars. I watched the interview and it’s like listening to a nutcase babbling crap. He has got to be on heavy drugs because he can’t even get his story straight. You want me to believe that a man did this to you and you just woke up one day and realized it was wrong? Not when you’re 21 or 25 but when you’re 30+? Right! Well in that case I’m the queen of England.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So back to LA the place he ran away from to hide. You see, he is already needed & coming back to what he left behind.

I have a feeling that "my truth" is something therapists tell their patients. I am going to ask around & see, because I notice people in therapy tend to use the same technical jargon. Where to now Wade?

Maral the big thing for me is that the interviewer never said anything like that^^ to Wade. He is allowed to tell "his truth" and goes bye bye. What we have is a man go on tv and makes the most disgusting allegations against another & walks away--freedom of speech at its worst. The strongest statement against this came from the estate lawyer & that was it. Even Jermaine's comment was sort of mild. What made it worst was while Wade used words like P---, Michel's image was always flickering in the background, so that viewers would associate those words to the image of Michael Jackson. This can be a cleaver ploy for positive advertising, but for something like what Wade had to say it associates a negative reference to Michael's image. Also, they used his last images, the ones that people paid good money to see, and brought in a lot of money to the estate, like the TII ones. I wonder if that was deliberate.....