Shana Mangatal is publishing a book on Michael's Birthday 2016

I think this should seal the deal to everyone about Shana Mangatal's vile agenda:

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The most disturbing part about this to me is that she gave Michael an autographed picture of herself as a present so Michael would remember her. This woman is the textbook definition of narcissism. And weren't they sleeping together at this point? Weren't they having long intimate conversations on the phone? Why would Michael need a signed picture of her to remember who she was? :unsure:

If she really did give Michael a picture of herself with "To Michael. I love you, Shana" scribbled on it, just think of how sad that is and what Michael must have been thinking, lol. She was his manager's receptionist who got a small part in one of his short films, only because she asked him for it. And in her delusional mind this means they are officially dating -_-
 
The most disturbing part about this to me is that she gave Michael an autographed picture of herself as a present so Michael would remember her.

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Yeah, If I had had the chance to meet Michael at some point, I certainly would have asked him to accept my complimentary autograph. Um, and I would have asked if I should write him a personal dedication. *snort*
 
All jokes aside, it really bothers me to see MJ fans support her on Facebook and stuff. Even defending her and bashing MJ in the process. It just shows how superficial their love for Michael is that they will throw him under the bus because they like Shana's fanfic version of him better. I'm not usually one to question people's fandom but I do in this case. And it's not that I think Michael was an angel that could do no wrong, not at all. But Shana says things that are so vile and mean - Michael cancelled concerts on a whim; Michael was not in any mental or physical pain, even during the allegations; Michael actually liked having a skin disorder; the insinuations about little boys; Michael only had plastic surgeries so he had an excuse to feed his painkiller addiction; Michael forced people to call him KOP and had to bargain for awards - not even most tabloids had gone that far. It just totally belittles him and his achievements. Just imagine how Michael would feel if he read those things. I don't even care about the fake romance claims tbh, she's not the first to have delusions like that. Michael had that effect on women. But she is selling this as a positive book about Michael and part of the fanbase actually support her and say she "humanises" Michael. Are they really that desperate to believe Michael had a secret girlfriend that they just don't care about all the other vicious lies she spreads about him? Even his father endorses her now. I don't understand why Michael was not enough for some people just as he was. They have to project their own fantasies unto him. It's just sad -_-
 
Of course it's sad. And it's gonna keep happening. We have seen these kind of things happen to other celebs who have passed on. For example Elvis, and that is why I am pretty much skeptical whenever there's an MJ book release......by family, friends or in Shana's case delusional stalker fans with a mean streak.
 
^^Exactly. That's the whole entire problem with this-who cares if they slept together or if she only made up that they slept together.
It's all this other provably false garbage that makes me angry.
How can anybody imagine that Michael was even remotely like this is bizarre to me.
 
That is easy, because of the constant smear campaigns by various haters and opportunists etc over the decades.....people like Shana are able to get book deals etc just by having just a bit of contact with him....meet an greet photo, Ghosts and working for MJ''s manager at the time.
 
Is she an only child? as in a spoiled only child that was overly told she was 'special' growing up??? Cuz she sure is.... special!
 
This woman is full of lies, I'm sorry but I hate to even take her name. I don't understand how in the world did she gather courage to write such things about Michael. This book is nothing more than fan fiction in a totally negative manner, her depiction of Michael is completely imaginary, not the real Michael we all know. It seems to me her sole intention of publishing this book is to garner publicity and to milk the fans of as much money as possible, also she has tried to damage Michael's reputation in the process. I will never support this woman in any way, totally disgusting and atrocious attempt from her.
 
All jokes aside, it really bothers me to see MJ fans support her on Facebook and stuff. Even defending her and bashing MJ in the process. It just shows how superficial their love for Michael is that they will throw him under the bus because they like Shana's fanfic version of him better. I'm not usually one to question people's fandom but I do in this case. And it's not that I think Michael was an angel that could do no wrong, not at all. But Shana says things that are so vile and mean - Michael cancelled concerts on a whim; Michael was not in any mental or physical pain, even during the allegations; Michael actually liked having a skin disorder; the insinuations about little boys; Michael only had plastic surgeries so he had an excuse to feed his painkiller addiction; Michael forced people to call him KOP and had to bargain for awards - not even most tabloids had gone that far. It just totally belittles him and his achievements. Just imagine how Michael would feel if he read those things. I don't even care about the fake romance claims tbh, she's not the first to have delusions like that. Michael had that effect on women. But she is selling this as a positive book about Michael and part of the fanbase actually support her and say she "humanises" Michael. Are they really that desperate to believe Michael had a secret girlfriend that they just don't care about all the other vicious lies she spreads about him? Even his father endorses her now. I don't understand why Michael was not enough for some people just as he was. They have to project their own fantasies unto him. It's just sad -_-

This.

And that indeed includes fans. I have seen all these attempts at making him out to be as some sort of secret womanizer, "man-hoe" and stuff like that. And that IMO actually stems from an overreaction by fans to all the rumours questioning his sexuality. As annoying as those untrue rumours and speculations about his sexuality are, making up fantasies on the other end of the spectrum and uncritically believing every and any woman who comes up with a story is not the answer. Believing someone like Shana is desperate because she has more holes in her story than a Swiss Cheese. And like you said, all her fans care about is her claim of having sex with MJ and for that they are willing to overlook every other (IMO very deliberate) insinuation in her book that play right into that tabloid portrayal of MJ that they think they are fighting by believing Shana's story. They are very short-sighted and they don't realize that Shana is trying to play to two crowds here: deluding fans into believing that her book is "positive" just because she, as a woman, claims sex with MJ; but at the same time she constantly drops deliberate hooks to tabloids that she knows they would pick up and give publicity to her book.

It was the same with the Taraborelli book. I have seen fans cheerleading on it simply because of his juicy sex scenes of MJ and LMP. Since this was at a time when most of the media said their relationship was a sham, fans celebrated and embraced JRT just for saying otherwise. But all the while they short-sightedly overlooked all other vile insinuations in his book that actually play right into the tabloid portrayal of MJ. Of course, MJ and Lisa's relationship was real, they both said so and it is pretty obvious too - if from nothing else the way LMP behaved after divorce (because only someone who was in a real relationship with someone can be so hurt about the break-up). But we do not need JRT to confirm anything and we do not need graphic descriptions of their sexual life coming from questionable "sources" such as an alleged "friend" of LMP, Monica Pastelle, whom I never heard of outside of JRT's book and tabloids and I question whether she even exists and even if she does I definitely question if she is who she claims to be, because I don't think LMP would tolerate any of her "friends" talk about her sex life to the tabloid media. Just a hint: Ray Chandler constantly quotes JRT's book in his book when he wants stories to shade MJ's character...

I too feel that even some of his own fans aren't ready to accept MJ for who he was and they want him to be someone else. I have no idea why being a womanizer is seen as such a great character trait that it is seen as favourable compared to whom MJ really was - at least by some fans. Womanizing men aren't really that great and cool in real life. And no, it isn't the way to be "a normal man", no matter how twisted society's values are today. The way MJ is characterized in Shana's book isn't a positive portrayal of a man. He is portrayed as a cynical user of Shana and other women. How is that cool?

To this her fans would probably say we just do not want to accept it because it is not some angelic, perfect portrayal of MJ - that's always their defense of Shana. That's not true, of course. Don't get it twisted. The reason we refuse to accept it is because Shana is not credible, plain and simple. We are not obliged to accept the very much self-serving story of a liar who also seems to have a narcisstic personality disorder. That doesn't equal to thinking MJ was perfect. We know he wasn't. He had his flaws. But Shana is just not credible and her story is ridiculous. And it is her fans who insist it is a "positive" portrayal of MJ. We just point out that no, it isn't but that's not the reason why we do not accept it. The reason is Shana's lack of credibility.
 
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I feel quite ashamed and angry that there are fellow fans out there who really promote the book and support her. Haven't they learned anything? It is the least that Michael would approve of. He hated the tabloids and even though he knew that he somehow depended on the media (for promotion etc.), he never would have dragged his privacy out into the open.
How can someone who really loves him (let's pretend for a second that she does) be so cruel and reveal his most intimate moments??

I mean, I know there's a lot of rather juicy fan fiction out there and I enjoy reading some of it.. but I think there's a huge difference between dreaming about something and expressing it, and revealing the truth (or what she believes to be the truth) about his sex life. It's the most disgusting and back-stabbing thing you can do, really. Furthermore, if the person involved cannot comment on this any more.

And it's not even that important whether it is the truth or not. The fact that she is prepared to reveal that kind of intimate information speaks for itself. It's simply disgusting.


*edit* the fact that she talks about little kids/boys being around him all the time but that it was 'totally innocent' makes me sick. If there wasn't anything peculiar about it, why mention it? Yes - to meet the tabloids' demand. And that's what exposes her as an attention-seeking fraud.
 
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^ I think the fans that support her simply do so because it fulfills their need to feel close to Michael.. When you can tweet someone and they respond and you know they knew Michael, it feels special.. Like you have a connection to Michael... Now if you believe the stories that person shares (or self brainwash yourself) it validates that special feeling.. "I have spoken with someone that shared ______________ with Michael Jackson"..

It's sad but I very much believe that is what it is... There are fans of all beliefs and types.. Fans that think he was bizarre but love his music.. Fans that stick there heads up his butt and live in a fantasy world... And - well if I keep describing fan types this post would take forever lol..


We cannot waist our energy on other people that do/believe ridiculous things.... As long as what they say or do does not tarnish Mikes legacy, image, and success, and that is all relative in scale so...
 
^ I think the fans that support her simply do so because it fulfills their need to feel close to Michael.. When you can tweet someone and they respond and you know they knew Michael, it feels special.. Like you have a connection to Michael... Now if you believe the stories that person shares (or self brainwash yourself) it validates that special feeling.. "I have spoken with someone that shared ______________ with Michael Jackson"..

It's sad but I very much believe that is what it is... There are fans of all beliefs and types.. Fans that think he was bizarre but love his music.. Fans that stick there heads up his butt and live in a fantasy world... And - well if I keep describing fan types this post would take forever lol..


We cannot waist our energy on other people that do/believe ridiculous things.... As long as what they say or do does not tarnish Mikes legacy, image, and success, and that is all relative in scale so...
Exactly. :clapping:
 
^ I think the fans that support her simply do so because it fulfills their need to feel close to Michael.. When you can tweet someone and they respond and you know they knew Michael, it feels special.. Like you have a connection to Michael... Now if you believe the stories that person shares (or self brainwash yourself) it validates that special feeling.. "I have spoken with someone that shared ______________ with Michael Jackson"..

We cannot waist our energy on other people that do/believe ridiculous things.... As long as what they say or do does not tarnish Mikes legacy, image, and success, and that is all relative in scale so...
I understand that to a certain extent. I got quite excited when Vincent Paterson popped into a conversation I was having on FB. And Webster Coleman (California raisins and LMA) and Brad Sunberg did it once too. I was flabbergasted and flattered. I didn't continue talking to them tho.

Shana is destroying the image he treasured so deeply. The only good thing is that the book won't sell.
 
This.

And that indeed includes fans. I have seen all these attempts at making him out to be as some sort of secret womanizer, "man-hoe" and stuff like that. And that IMO actually stems from an overreaction by fans to all the rumours questioning his sexuality. As annoying as those untrue rumours and speculations about his sexuality are, making up fantasies on the other end of the spectrum and uncritically believing every and any woman who comes up with a story is not the answer. Believing someone like Shana is desperate because she has more holes in her story than a Swiss Cheese. And like you said, all her fans care about is her claim of having sex with MJ and for that they are willing to overlook every other (IMO very deliberate) insinuation in her book that play right into that tabloid portrayal of MJ that they think they are fighting by believing Shana's story. They are very short-sighted and they don't realize that Shana is trying to play to two crowds here: deluding fans into believing that her book is "positive" just because she, as a woman, claims sex with MJ; but at the same time she constantly drops deliberate hooks to tabloids that she knows they would pick up and give publicity to her book.

It was the same with the Taraborelli book. I have seen fans cheerleading on it simply because of his juicy sex scenes of MJ and LMP. Since this was at a time when most of the media said their relationship was a sham, fans celebrated and embraced JRT just for saying otherwise. But all the while they short-sightedly overlooked all other vile insinuations in his book that actually play right into the tabloid portrayal of MJ. Of course, MJ and Lisa's relationship was real, they both said so and it is pretty obvious too - if from nothing else the way LMP behaved after divorce (because only someone who was in a real relationship with someone can be so hurt about the break-up). But we do not need JRT to confirm anything and we do not need graphic descriptions of their sexual life coming from questionable "sources" such as an alleged "friend" of LMP, Monica Pastelle, whom I never heard of outside of JRT's book and tabloids and I question whether she even exists and even if she does I definitely question if she is who she claims to be, because I don't think LMP would tolerate any of her "friends" talk about her sex life to the tabloid media. Just a hint: Ray Chandler constantly quotes JRT's book in his book when he wants stories to shade MJ's character...

I too feel that even some of his own fans aren't ready to accept MJ for who he was and they want him to be someone else. I have no idea why being a womanizer is seen as such a great character trait that it is seen as favourable compared to whom MJ really was - at least by some fans. Womanizing men aren't really that great and cool in real life. And no, it isn't the way to be "a normal man", no matter how twisted society's values are today. The way MJ is characterized in Shana's book isn't a positive portrayal of a man. He is portrayed as a cynical user of Shana and other women. How is that cool?

To this her fans would probably say we just do not want to accept it because it is not some angelic, perfect portrayal of MJ - that's always their defense of Shana. That's not true, of course. Don't get it twisted. The reason we refuse to accept it is because Shana is not credible, plain and simple. We are not obliged to accept the very much self-serving story of a liar who also seems to have a narcisstic personality disorder. That doesn't equal to thinking MJ was perfect. We know he wasn't. He had his flaws. But Shana is just not credible and her story is ridiculous. And it is her fans who insist it is a "positive" portrayal of MJ. We just point out that no, it isn't but that's not the reason why we do not accept it. The reason is Shana's lack of credibility.

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This right here!
Within the MJ fandom there's a faction of MJ "fans" that are very mean and nasty to Michael, and always makes him out to be things we have NO IDEA if he truly was (and most likely wasn't).
I can't stand when they act like it's a bad thing or that MJ may have been gay because he didn't whip it out for any woman that was willing.
Those are the type that will support Shana because A: they want to use Shana as "proof" that Michael was straight, or B: because they think the rest of the fandom "can't handle the truth about Michael" and that supporting Shana will make them look "more sane and realistic" then the rest of the fandom.
 
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With me its show the receipts! She has no proof, her timelines are laughable (MJ meeting Madonna for the first time in the 90s! when this pic was taken in 1984! :hysterical: ) and it obvious that this is a cut and paste job. End of story......next.

1984!!!!!!!

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Also now that MJ b'day has passed we will hear less of her (good ridence) and her "book" will end up in the discount bins with all the other tell-all books.
 
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^ I think the fans that support her simply do so because it fulfills their need to feel close to Michael.. When you can tweet someone and they respond and you know they knew Michael, it feels special.. Like you have a connection to Michael... Now if you believe the stories that person shares (or self brainwash yourself) it validates that special feeling.. "I have spoken with someone that shared ______________ with Michael Jackson"..

Yes, that's true. There are these little cliques within the fandom that form around certain associates of MJ for that reason. The fans of Karen Faye, fans of certain family members, Shana, this and that. Many of these people also enjoy the attention they are getting from fans and feed into it. And after a while these fans lose sight of Michael and they become more loyal to these people than to even MJ himself and they never question the stories these people are telling them about him and whether these stories might serve some self-serving agenda by these associates.
 
Respect hit the nail on the head. Shana's book paints Michael as a womanizer and, to be frank, Shana as a dumdum that subjected herself to decades of womanizing lol. Nothing either should be proud of. That would actually make me see Michael as a sleaze lol, not a "real man". But being the polar opposite of that (absolutely virginal) wouldn't be any better. Cuz neither are true to him as a person with layers.

Throwing Michael's character from one extreme end of the spectrum to the other does nothing positive for his image. In fact, it inflicts more damage because the man he really was gets lost in all of the lore and fantasy. We miss out on the real Michael with all of these attempts to recreate "the real Michael". Honestly the real Michael wasn't meant for everybody. Just like in our own lives, not everyone we know knows everything about every single aspect of our lives. Different sides of ourselves are reserved for specific people/ situations. We should all allow Michael and his memory, that same courtesy. Romanticizing negative events, over-embellishing stories for dramatic effect, and even worse flat-out lying only serve to reinforce the caricature of Michael Jackson the celebrity, and do nothing to validate Michael the man as he truly was.

And who exactly was Michael? Probably a mix of favorable and unfavorable traits, just like the rest of us humans lol. And that's ok. His good deeds don't excuse his screw ups, but those screw ups don't make his good deeds any less genuine either. Fans would be better served to try harder to understand who Michael actually was, be it the pretty and/or the ugly, instead of constructing/latching onto their concocted "perfect Michael" fantasies. If they did, it'd make these sensationalist fairy tales obsolete.
 
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Yes, that's true. There are these little cliques within the fandom that form around certain associates of MJ for that reason. The fans of Karen Faye, fans of certain family members, Shana, this and that. Many of these people also enjoy the attention they are getting from fans and feed into it. And after a while these fans lose sight of Michael and they become more loyal to these people than to even MJ himself and they never question the stories these people are telling them about him and whether these stories might serve some self-serving agenda by these associates.

What kills me is that there are Michael fans, that have fans lol. Like, what the hell kind of twilight zone did I wander into lol?! I kinda see Shana in this light, she developed a following of her own because of her being a fan.

I get it. I know there's a different dynamic at play with fans that discovered Michael either towards the end of his life or after he passed. Connecting with people that interacted with Michael maybe makes them personally feel a little closer to Michael. But that shouldn't be traded in for logic...
 
id never write a book about someone i loved but that's just me
 
Shana on FB:

"You guys wouldn't believe the lengths people are going through to defame and slander, not my book, but my character. I've lived my entire life upholding strong morals and treating everyone with a kind heart. This cannot continue. I've now hired a lawyer to monitor ALL websites, including message boards and Twitter to record all forms of slander, libel, defamation and cyberstalking/bullying. You WILL be investigated and justice will be served. Bullying in general must be stopped."

Shana Mangatal Mania Ntourlia...I don't read comments on message boards or anywhere- but here and IG, because it's impossible not to. But people send me stuff that people have written in other places, even though I've asked for no negativity in my inbox, and it's gotten to a point where it's out of control. Stacee Brown is right. Teenagers have killed themselves over online bullying. I would never do that, but this is a serious problem that needs to be stopped.

I am not sure if going near a stand in a courtroom and talking about fake stories would really be a great idea for Shana. LOL @ her trying to scare critics of her book and behavior. And comparing her attention seeking self to bullied teenagers? SMH, the woman has no self-awereness at all.
 
On another forum someone who claims to be an ex-friend of Shana posted a series of e-mail exchanges she had with Shana in 2008. The e-mails show Shana being manipulative and totally directing this person what to post about her on certain MJ forums and deliberately making up things and directing this person about what to claim. Specifically it is about that 2007 new years eve David Copperfield show that I think also features in her book. This person was asked to write that she witnessed MJ staring at Shana all the time and how they were staring at each other, how he supposedly hugged her for a very long time and told her "You're looking good" and how then she watched them to go up in an elevator together - suggesting that something more must have happened then. Now this person claims it wasn't true. The e-mails themselves also show Shana directing her what to write. Shana looks like very much the attention seeker I think she is - for example, making remarks like "any attention is good attention" and then counting how many people read the thread that her friend created on that forum and things like that.

To me the e-mails look credible. I think this is actually what prompted Shana's above threats as she is freaking out about them. Despite of those threats this person did not stop posting the e-mails. LOL. She posted some more today. In fact, it lends credibility to this person that one of Shana's friends outed her as a "computer scientist" on Twitter which this person then said she is. But this means that Shana and her circles indeed know her...
 
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She is also plaguarizing the Chandler's portrayal of Pellicano as this big bully threatening people into silence left and right. Why would Pellicano even be interested in silencing Shana about MJ flirting with her on the phone? Doesn't make one iota of sense, but she just felt the need to insert another innuendo in her book which makes MJ look shady regarding the allegations. Any more questions about the motives of this woman?

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The woman should write a plot for the next 007 James Bond movie. And give herself the role of the mysterious, beautiful "adult female", who is - of course - at the very center of the plot.
 
Some more shading of MJ and other people like Liz Taylor by Shana.

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Jesus Christ... I don't know whether to laugh or cry at so much delusion by this woman.
 
This is absolutely a page out of the Chandlers' book too. "The crazy MJ fans with death threats" angle.

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Her Modus Operandi is to take any tabloid story she read and twist it so that she can insert herself into it. This thing about Pellicano and death threats from crazy MJ fans is from the Chandlers. It wasn't even true even in their case. There was one crazy fan, that Dennis Pfeiffer that called the Chandlers house once and got arrested and that was it. It wasn't a real phenomenon. They had a lot more problems with the media following them around but by October even that ceased.

And like you said, why would fans (or Pellicano, for that matter) care about Shana Mangatal's insignificant ass? No one even knew about her, but why would any fan send her death threats over MJ flirting with her on the phone a couple of times? How would they even know, in the first place? And why would they care? I haven't heard about fans sending LMP death threats and he married her.

But this is Shana's MO - taking stories from tabloids and from other people and then insert herself into them.
 
I totally agree with everything you've said. She seems to be that kind of a person who would project oneself before and more than anyone else & want to keep one's image clean at any cost. After all that she's written in that book, either she's too adamant to not realise that Michael's image & reputation has been affected in a negative manner, or she's plain ignorant or dumb to even understand what has happened! She's so selfish & self-centred she only cares about her image. Honestly I feel that book is only about her, Michael's name is only attached for easy fame, publicity & global recognition, very sad about that but probably that's true. Also, AFAIK Michael was very shy & private regarding his personal life, so someone who really loved him wouldn't even think of making it public...
 
Also, AFAIK Michael was very shy & private regarding his personal life, so someone who really loved him wouldn't even think of making it public...

Without counting us fans, Michael could've probably counted all of the people that truly loved him, and wouldn't betray him on one hand. :/
 
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